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Die Mercurii, 30 Junii 1830.
DOMINI tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:
E. of Shaftesbury chosen Speaker pro tempore.
The Lord Chancellor not being present, and The Lord Tenterden and The Lord Wynford, appointed Speakers by His late Majesty's Commissions, being absent, the Lords unanimously chose The Earl of Shaftesbury to be Speaker pro tempore:
And his Lordship took his Seat upon the Woolsack accordingly.
PRAYERS.
Lords take the Oaths.
The Lords following took the Oaths, and also took and subscribed the Oath of Abjuration, pursuant to the Statutes:
William Spencer Duke of Devonshire.
Henry William Marquess of Anglesey.
Robert Earl of Cardigan.
Walter Francis Earl of Doncaster.
Philip Henry Earl Stanhope.
George Earl of Egremont.
John Charles Earl of Clarendon.
John William Earl of Dudley.
Henry Viscount Hereford.
Thomas Atherton Lord Lilford.
William Lord Alvanley.
James Lord Lauderdale.
James Lord Fife.
G. Smith's Naturalization Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Alexander Grant and others;
To return the Bill, intituled, "An Act for naturalizing "George Smith;" and to acquaint this House, That they have agreed to the same, without any Amendment.
Ld. Cremorne's Estate Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Alexander Grant and others;
To return the Bill, intituled, "An Act to enable the Guardian of The Right Honorable Richard Lord Cremorne, an Infant, to carry into Effect a Contract entered into for the Purchase of Rockcorry Castle, and adjoining Lands, in the County of Monaghan, in Ireland;" and to acquaint this House, That they have agreed to the same, without any Amendment.
Bute Ship Canal Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Alexander Grant and others;
To return the Bill, intituled, "An Act for empowering The Marquis of Bute to make and maintain a Ship Canal, commencing near the Mouth of the River Taff, in the County of Glamorgan, and terminating near the Town of Cardiff, with other Works to communicate therewith;" and to acquaint this House, That they have agreed to their Lordships Amendment made thereto.
J. C. Smith's Naturalization Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Alexander Grant and others;
To return the Bill, intituled, "An Act for naturalizing John Christopher Smith;" and to acquaint this House, That they have agreed to the same, without any Amendment.
Hall's Estate Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Alexander Grant and others;
To return the Bill, intituled, "An Act to authorize the granting of Mining and Building Leases of certain Parts of the Estates subject to the Trusts of the Will of Benjamin Hall Esquire, deceased;" and to acquaint this House, That they have agreed to the same, with some Amendments, to which they desire their Lordships Concurrence.
The House proceeded to take into Consideration the Amendments made by the Commons to the last-mentioned Bill:
And the said Amendments, being read Three Times by the Clerk, were agreed to by the House.
And, A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by the former Messengers, to acquaint them therewith.
The House was adjourned during Pleasure.
The House was resumed by The Lord Chancellor.
East Retford Election Bill, A. Brown to attend.
Ordered, That Anne Brown do attend this House forthwith, in order to her being examined as a Witness upon the Second Reading of the Bill, intituled, "An Act to prevent Bribery and Corruption in the Election of Burgesses to serve in Parliament for the Borough of East Retford."
E. of Kenmare's Claim, Comee put off.
Ordered, That the Sitting of the Committee for Privileges to whom the Petition of Valentine Earl of Kenmare, praying, "That his Right to vote at the Elections of Peers for Ireland to sit in the Parliament of the United Kingdom may be admitted by their Lordships," stands referred, which stands appointed for To-morrow, be put off to Friday next.
Netterville Peerage, Comee put off.
Ordered, That the Sitting of the Committee for Privileges to whom the Petition of James Netterville Esquire, of Frehane, late of Coarsefield, in the County of Mayo, in Ireland, to His Majesty, praying His Majesty, "That the Title, Dignity and Peerage of Viscount Netterville, of the Kingdom of Ireland, may be declared and adjudged to belong to the Petitioner," together with His Majesty's Reference thereof to this House, and the Report of His Majesty's Attorney and Solicitor General for Ireland, and also the Report of His Majesty's Solicitor General for England, thereunto annexed, stands referred, which stands appointed for To-morrow, be put off to Friday next.
M'Lellan v. M'Leod.
Ordered, That the further Hearing of the Cause wherein John M'Lellan is Appellant, and Alexander Norman M'Leod is Respondent, which stands appointed for To-morrow, be put off to Friday next.
Foreign Lead, Petition of Company for working of Mines, &c. in Scotland respecting Import of.
Upon reading the Petition of The Governor and Company for working of Mines, Minerals and Metals, in that Part of Great Britain called Scotland, under their Common Seal; praying; "That their Lordships will be pleased to take the distressed State of the Lead Trade into their serious Consideration, and adopt Measures for the Relief of those engaged in that Business, either by encreasing the Amount of the Import Duties on Lead and Lead Ore, or by such other Measures as to their Lordships shall seem meet and expedient:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Birmingham Grammar School Bill, The King's Consent signified:
The Earl of Shaftesbury acquainted the House, "That His Majesty having been informed of the Contents of the Bill, intituled, "An Act to enable The Governors of the Possessions, Revenues and Goods of the Free Grammar School of King Edward the Sixth in Birmingham, in the County of Warwick, to pull down the present Masters Houses and Schoolhouse in New Street, in the Town of Birmingham, and to make and erect more suitable Accommodations on a new Site in the Vicinity of the Town, and to procure such new Site; and to extend the Objects of the Charity, by erecting and making on the old Site in New Street Accommodations suitable for a new School for teaching modern Languages, the Arts and Sciences; and to make certain Additions to the Estates of the said Charity by Purchase; and to raise Money for the Purposes aforesaid, by applying certain Funds now belonging to the said Charity, and by Sale of Part of the Estates belonging thereto, and by Mortgage; and for other Purposes;" was pleased to consent (as far as His Majesty's Interest is concerned) that their Lordships may proceed therein as they shall think fit."
Bill reported.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords Committees, to whom the last-mentioned Bill was committed; "That they had considered the said Bill, and examined the Allegations thereof, which were found to be true; that the Parties concerned had given their Consents to the Satisfaction of the Committee; and that the Committee had gone through the Bill, and made several Amendments thereto."
Which Amendments, being read Twice by the Clerk, were agreed to by the House.
Ordered, That the said Bill, with the Amendments, be ingrossed.
Taxes, (Ireland,) Petitions against Encrease of: (St. Nicholas, Dublin:)
Upon reading the Petition of the Parishioners of St. Nicholas without, in the City of Dublin, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships, "That the proposed additional Taxes, and all future Measures calculated to expose His Majesty's Irish Subjects to Persecution, may be opposed by the united Strength and Wisdom of their Lordships House:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
St. John's, Limerick:
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of St. John's Parish, in the City of Limerick, Ireland, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships to interpose between a distressed People and the proposed Encrease of Taxation:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table
Ballylaneen.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the Parish of Ballylaneen, in the County of Waterford, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships to oppose any Attempt at renewing the ancient System of burdening and crushing Ireland; and that their Lordships will resist the present Scheme of His Majesty's Ministers for imposing a new and ruinous Load of Taxes on the Petitioners Country:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Papers relative to the Slave Trade delivered.
The Viscount Gordon (by His Majesty's Command) presented to the House,
"Correspondence with the British Commissioners at Sierra Leone, the Havana, Rio de Janeiro and Surinam, and with Foreign Powers, relating to the Slave Trade, 1829, in Two Classes;" together with Lists thereof.
Which Lists were read by the Clerk as follow; (vizt.)
"Class A.
"SIERRA LEONE. (General.)
Ordered, That the said Papers do lie on the Table.
Foreign Grain, Returns of British Consuls respecting, delivered.
The Viscount Gordon laid before the House, pursuant to an Address to His Majesty of the 16th Day of this instant June,
"Returns made by British Consuls from Foreign Ports of the Prices of Grain in those Ports respectively, for the Years 1828 and 1829."
And the Title thereof being read by the Clerk;
Ordered, That the said Returns do lie on the Table.
Russian Tariff of Customs delivered.
The Viscount Gordon also laid before the House, pursuant to an Address to His Majesty of the 28th of May last,
"A Copy of the last Russian Tariff of Customs."
And the Title thereof being read by the Clerk;
Ordered, That the said Paper do lie on the Table.
Glasgow & Kilmarnock Road Bill, Petitions in favor of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Heritors and Inhabitants of Hutchesontown and Lauriestown, in the Barony of Gorbals and County of Lanark, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Heritors and Inhabitants of Tradeston and Kingston, in the Barony of Gorbals and County of Lanark, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Heritors, Tacksmen and Inhabitants of the Parish of Cathcart and Shire of Renfrew, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Owners and Occupiers of Public Works in the Parishes of Eastwood or Pollok, Mearns and Neilston, and County of Renfrew, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Heritors, Tacksmen and Inhabitants of the Parish of Pollok or Eastwood and Shire of Renfrew, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
And also, Upon reading the Petition of the Heritors, Tacksmen and Inhabitants of the Parish of Mearns, in the County of Renfrew, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; taking notice of a Bill depending in this House, intituled, "An Act for amending and continuing an Act for repairing Roads in the County of Renfrew, and for altering the Line of Road between Glasgow and Kilmarnock, in the said County;" and severally praying their Lordships "to pass the said Bill into a Law:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petitions do lie on the Table.
Motion for Address on The King's Message respecting the Death of His late Majesty, & the calling of a new Parliament:
The Order of the Day being read for taking into Consideration His Majesty's most gracious Message of Yesterday; and for the Lords to be summoned;
The said Message was read by the Clerk.
It was moved, "That an humble Address be presented to His Majesty, to return to His Majesty the dutiful Acknowledgment of this House for the Communication which His Majesty has been graciously pleased to make to them: To express to His Majesty the deep Sense which this House entertains of His Majesty's Goodness, in being unwilling to recommend to the Attention of Parliament, at this advanced Period of the Session, and in the present State of Public Business, any new Matter which may admit of Postponement without Detriment to the Public Service: And to assure His Majesty, that, as His Majesty is of opinion that it will be most conducive to the general Convenience, and to the Interests of the Country, to call a new Parliament with as little Delay as may be practicable, this House will apply themselves, without Delay, to forward such Measures, and concur in such temporary Provision, as may be requisite for the Conduct of the Public Service in the Interval that must elapse between the Close of the present Session and the assembling of a new Parliament."
Which being objected to;
Motion to adjourn the Debate, Negatived:
It was moved, "That the Debate on the said Motion be adjourned 'till To-morrow."
After Debate,
The Question was put thereupon?
It was resolved in the Negative.
Dissent thereupon:
DISSENTIENT:
"Eldon.
"Winchilsea & Nottingham.
"Redesdale.
"Mansfield.
"Newcastle.
"Romney.
"Richmond & Lennox.
"Somerhill."
Then it was moved, "to agree to the Motion first proposed."
Which being objected to;
Amendment Negatived:
An Amendment was proposed to be made to the said Motion, by leaving out from the Word ("That") to the End of the Motion, and inserting the following Words: ("an humble Address be presented to His Majesty, to state to His Majesty that we acknowledge, with every Sentiment of Gratitude, the Communication which His Majesty has been most graciously pleased to make to this House:
"That we acknowledge, as a most gratifying Proof of His Majesty's Consideration of the Public Convenience, His Majesty's most gracious Declaration, that considering the advanced Period of the Session, and the State of the Public Business, His Majesty feels unwilling to recommend to the Attention of Parliament any new Matter which may admit of Postponement without Detriment to the Public Service; but we feel ourselves at the same Time called upon humbly and respectfully to assure His Majesty, that if, adverting to the present Circumstances of the Government, He should find it expedient to propose to Parliament any Provision for securing the Country against possible Inconveniences and Dangers of the most serious Nature, to which it might otherwise be exposed, we shall be ready and anxious to take into our immediate Consideration, with a view to carrying them into Effect in such Manner as may be most conducive to the Public Safety, any Measures which His Majesty may be graciously pleased to recommend for that Purpose:
"That we shall be at all Times ready, with the Devotion which we feel to His Majesty's Person and Government, to concur in affording to His Majesty the Means that may be necessary for providing for the Exigencies of the Public Service, and for facilitating the Exercise of His Majesty's Royal Prerogative of dissolving the Parliament whenever it may appear to His Majesty to be required for the Benefit of His People; and we humbly hope, that the Furtherance of His Majesty's paternal Wishes in this Respect may be most conveniently and effectually promoted, by our proceeding with all due Diligence and Expedition to the Completion of the Measures which are now in progress, in consequence of His late Majesty's most gracious Recommendation from the Throne at the Commencement of the Session, and which are necessary for the Public Service."
The Question was put, "Whether the Words proposed to be left out shall stand Part of the Motion?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Address agreed to.
Then the Question was put, "Whether to agree to the Motion as at first proposed?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Ordered, That the said Address be presented to His Majesty by the Lords with White Staves.
Transportation of Offenders Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to amend an Act passed in the Fifth Year of His present Majesty, for the Transportation of Offenders from Great Britain; and for punishing Offences committed by Transports kept to Labour in the Colonies."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill, with the Amendments, shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H.C. with Amendments to it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Cox and Mr. Trower;
To return the said Bill, and acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the same, with some Amendments, to which their Lordships desire their Concurrence.
Shubenaccadie Canal Bill.
Ordered, That the Bill, intituled, "An Act to authorize the Advance of a certain Sum out of the Consolidated Fund, for the Completion of the Shubenaccadie Canal in Nova Scotia," be read a Second Time on Friday next.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Jovis, primum diem Julii jam prox. sequen. horâ undecimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.