Henry VIII: October 1534, 11-15

Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 7, 1534. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1883.

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October 1534, 11–15

11 Oct. 1249. William Cavendish to Cromwell.
R. O. I am now by your command at St. Alban's, and Dr. Lee has been in hand with the monks “for ensealing of my indenture,” but he finds them very obstinate, refusing to accomplish what they have already granted. They allege many ways that it would be to the prejudice of their house, though they offered me the same by lease, from 100 years to another, and so far ever. Shall I break with them, or continue? I have so long troubled you with this suit that I dislike doing so further; so, as I have found them very variable, I wish to know your mind. St. Alban's, 11 Oct.
Hol. p. 1. Add.: Secretary. Endd.
1250. Robert Abbot of St. Alban's to Cromwell.
R. O. Has never been asked by the friends of Cromwell's servant Cavendyshe to grant him in fee farm the manor in which he dwells. Gave him for Cromwell's sake a longer lease than had ever been granted before; but if he were to grant the manor in fee farm it might be recovered by the heirs of the founder by writ of contra formam collacionis, so that the land would be utterly lost. If Cromwell will consult the abbot's counsel he will be glad to accomplish his pleasure.
P. 1. Add.: Master Secretary to the King's highness. Sealed.
[11 Oct.] 1251. Sir John Dudley to Cromwell.
R. O. Yesterday, 10 Oct., the extreme rages of the sea have broken with such violence on divers parts of these coasts that all Gilford Marsh and certain villages near the sea have been drowned. The marsh is clearly lost, or will be as chargeable to win again as it was when Sir Ric. Gilford died in it, for the seabanks are borne down. I cannot yet tell whether John Gyldford or I have lost the most, for the matter is in the King's hands, who has not yet determined it. Gyldford is not at hand to help or set people to work on it, or to bear part of the charges; and if I should turn the broche while others ate the roast I should be well mocked for my labor. But if the thing be not seen to at once it will be lost for ever; so I will do what I can, hoping the King will consider my charges. Part of the marsh belongs to the land recovered to the King's use for payment of the debts owed by Sir Edward Gilford to his Highness. I beg you will be my good master in this matter, that my enemy may have no advantage over me in my absence. I think the King would not be pleased if he knew their crafty practices to defeat my right, when the matter is in his hands; but their title will appear little worth when it is thoroughly scanned. I beg you not to give too much credence to some great men who wish to make the best of it for Mr. Clement, as when I show you “how hotly the ending of Mr. Clement to the Fleet was taken by some that, may chance, you think to be your friend, you will not a little marvel.” If you will defer Clement I will wait upon you by Friday. This day the vicar of Tenterden exhorted his parishioners to stand on their old fashions and fly this new learning, and many other papists' doctrines, and when he bade his beads he said, because it was newly ordered that they should pray first for the King, therefore he would do it. Young Brikanden, your servant, heard him. I would not have told you this had he not been already before you. Halden, Sunday afternoon.
Hol. pp. 3. Add.: Secretary.
11 Oct. 1252. Thomas Runcorn, Priest, to Cromwell.
R. O. My lord (fn. 1) my master has conferred upon me the benefice of Estwodehay, vacant by the death of master Widders. As he died intestate, much was embezzled. I sequestrated the goods, and took an inventory of the goods and debts, which I send you. There was a little plate, now in the hands of a brother of Dr. Layton's, by the doctor's commands, but by what authority I know not. He will not deliver it. The rest I send you. I would be glad to know your wishes. I have to thank you for my miserable brother. He had been put to death had he not, at the sight of your letters, been reprieved by the judges. He still remains in prison, and is like to remain there at the extreme suit of master Gawen. Winchester, 11 Oct.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.: Secretary. Scaled.
11 Oct. 1253. Nich. Austen, Abbot of Rewley, to Cromwell.
R. O. Whereas you moved me for a garden in London, held by Mr. Deane, grocer, we are willing to oblige you in such course as this bringer, Mr. Androys, the overseer of our lands, will take with you. Rewley, 11 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Secretary.
11 Oct. 1254. Henry Sacheverell to Cromwell.
R. O. I perceive by your letters that Thos. Newton exhibited last Trinity term a complaint against me for wrongful occupation of certain lands in Horeston and Horsley, alleging a decree made by Mr. Speilman. The matter has been discussed at various times. I have caused it to be drawn out at length for your persual, showing that Newton has no cause of complaint. Morley, 11 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Secretary. Endd.
12 Oct. 1255. Sir Gregory Da Casale to Cromwell.
R. O. St. P. VII. 570. Wrote in another letter that the Cardinals entered into conclave on 11 Oct. Finding on first coming to Rome that most of the Cardinals favoured Farnese, caused some of the blank letters of credence from the King to be directed to him, and told him of the King's goodwill towards him, reminding him how in 1529 the kings of England and France sent Vincent Casale with letters that they would rather have Farnese for Pope than either Wolsey or Campeggio. That this is true, Norfolk, the bishop of Winchester, Brian and Vannes can testify. Reminded him also how the King had ordered the protectorship to be taken away from Campeggio and given to him; and the King was surprised that after these marks of good will the Cardinal should have opposed him. In reply he attempted to excuse himself, and threw the blame on Clement VII,; he himself was anxious to satisfy the King, and would endeavor above all things to do so if he were placed in authority. This was repeated by his secretary, Latinus Juvenalis, Casale's uncle. Seeing the chances of Farnese improve, and the French apparently agreeing to him, used what influence he could with the cardinals of Lorraine, Bourbon and Tournon, who all said that they would do as much for the king of England as for Francis. Rome, 12 Oct. 1534.
In the first part of the night Farnese was elected Pope, with much agreement among the Cardinals, who were only one day in conclave. Tomorrow he will be pronounced Pope with the usual ceremonies. Rome, 12 Oct., before midnight. Signed.
Lat. Add. Endd.
13 Oct. 1256. Pope Paul III.
Harl. MS. 3,578, f. 34. B. M. Conclave di Paolo Terzo, per morte di Clemento Settimo.
Ital., pp. 16.
13 Oct. 1257. Chapuys to Charles V.
Vienna Archives. The German mentioned in my last is one of the counts of Hoy, brother-in-law, and, as I understand, enemy to the king of Sweden. He has already spoken to Cromwell, but not to the King, and it is not known what he is soliciting. The King, being informed there was some talk of a marriage between the Infanta and the Dauphin, despatched the secretary of the French ambassador, as I have before informed you, to propose, as I understand, the marriage of the Bastard with the duke of Angoulême; and it is said that the admiral of France comes to consult upon this with other matters. The King has already sent a ship well armed and equipped for his passage, and given orders that he shall be well received wherever he goes. I understand also that the despatch of the said secretary was in order, that as the French king would not revoke the edict he had made about the shipping of merchandise between England and France, of which I have already written, he would at least suspend its execution, to appease the cry of this people till next parliament, when the acts of which the French complained would be amended. On this hope the suspension has been obtained.
The honest men among the King's Council believed that when there was a new Pope the King would resume his obedience to the Church, but news having lately arrived of the Pope's illness, when the duke of Norfolk and the Marquis suggested that, like a Catholic prince, he would make no difficulty in obeying the new Pope, he answered that no one should mock him by advising such a thing, for he would have no greater regard for any Pope in the world that might be chosen than for the meanest priest of his kingdom. Two days ago the news of his Holiness's death came by letters from Gregory de Casal, which has been to the King the greatest pleasure in the world, and Cromwell has been unable to refrain from saying several times in public that this great devil was dead, and it seemed as if he was very sorry he could find no worse name for him than devil.
Of late days lord Rochford's wife has been banished the Court because she had conspired with the (sa qu. la?) Concubine to procure the withdrawal from Court of the young lady whom this king has been accustomed to serve (la demoiselle que ce roy a accoustume de servir), whose influence increases daily, while that of the Concubine diminishes, which has already abated a good deal of her insolence (fierte et gloire). The said young lady has of late sent to the Princess to tell her to be of good cheer, and that her troubles would sooner come to an end than she supposed, and that when the opportunity occurred she would show herself her true and devoted servant.
The prohibition lately issued to speak of news from Ireland was to prevent it being known that Kildare had killed more than 1,500 of the King's men. It is said that Skeffington had embarked with all his men, and was on the point of setting sail, and, as I understand, he would be glad if the weather were such that he could not cross, for, as he has several times written to his friends, he considers himself undone if her goes. 13 Oct. 1534.
Fr., decipher, pp. 2. From a modern copy.
13 Oct. 1258. John Lord Husey to Cromwell.
R. O. The bearer desires to enter your service, and do your pleasure in those parts where he was born. He is of good conversation and honesty. Sleford, 13 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Secretary. Endd.
14 Oct. 1259. John Lord Husey to Cromwell.
R. O. After the last assizes at Lincoln, I, my son and my friends acknowledged ourselves bound in a recognisance to the King's use for payment of 400 marks before Sir Walter Luke, justice of assize in co. Linc. I beg that my obligations in which I stand bound to the King, as has been supposed, may be delivered to the bearer, and the suit hanging over me for the same be withdrawn. I send you your fee due Michaelmas last. Selford, 14th Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Secretary. Sealed. Endd.
14 Oct. 1260. Robert Studley to Cromwell.
R. O. I desire you to have in remembrance my suit for my old room in the Customs. There is a farm in Essex called Harlowbery, belonging to the abbot of Bery, of 40l. a year, but it is better by 20 Marks. I beg you will obtain it for me. My annuity in Gloucestershire of five marks is wrongfully detained by Ric. Rede, the heir, this 18 years. He was bound to me by obligation of 100l. to abide the arbitration of Mr. Horwod and Henry Digby for my part, and of Thos. Vaughan and John Havarde of Hertfordshire for his part, but has never appeared, and so has lost his obligation. I beg he may be subpœnaed to answer before you. I beg you to spare me “the lite close” next to my house at Stebunhithe, for which I will pay rent. 14 Oct.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.: Secretary.
14 Oct. 1261. Thomas Speke to the Lord Chief Justice.
R. O. One Merten Daye, who was arrested at Lydford for carrying the enclosed letter of news, was brought before him “the 14th day of October last past.” Has bound him in 40l., and Ric. Bykham, the bearer, in 20l., to appear before the Chief Justice in London on Nov. 2. He has promised to. produce the write, and that done, he should be dismissed, as he is a common carrier, and received the letter thinking no harm. Encloses his confession. Radling, (fn. 2) 14 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.
15 Oct. 1262. Sir Gregory Casale to the Duke of Norfolk.
R. O. St. P. VII. 573. Directly he arrived in Rome, did all he could to execute his orders and get supporters for the French, and never left them till the conclave was closed. On the following night cardinal Farnese was elected before a scrutiny. All venerated him and kissed his feet, except Campeggio, who took it ill, but he gave his vote with the rest the following morning. The new Pope has assumed the name of Paul III. He is thought to owe much to the French king. The cardinal of Lorraine, next after cardinal Medicis, addressed him as Pope and adored him. There is great rejoicing in the city. There has not been a Roman since Martin [V.] Before his election the new Pope said that if possible he would hold a council, and his friends say that he is of the same intention now. No election was ever more honest. The most noble Cardinals were present at the conclave, including the cardinals of Salzburg and Trent. He has said also that he will consider the king of England as a dear son. There is joy in Rome both at his election and his predecessor's death, whose tomb was broken open at night and his corpse stabbed. If it had not been for respect to cardinal Medicis, he would have been dragged about with a hook. A guard has now been put over the sepulchre.
The cardinal of Lorraine says he wishes to come to England. The French seem well disposed: so Casale will leave this affair to them, and not meddle with the Pope. Does not wish to incur the King's anger while trying to serve him. Rome, 15 Oct. 1534. Signed.
Lat. Add. Endd.
R. O. 2. Extract from the above letter in Vannes' hand.
Lat., p. 1.
15 Oct. 1263. Sir Gregory Casale to Lord Rochford.
R. O. St. P. VII. 574. Rome is rejoiced at the death of Clement VII. The people attempted to sack and burn the house of Philip Strozzi, because Clement under his name had agreed with the Romans to keep corn at 5scudi the ruggio, and then made them pay 12; but the Cardinals have appeased them. Clement's tomb has been broken open, and the inscription altered from “Clementi VII. Pontifici Maximo, cujus invicta virtus sola clementia superata est,” to “Inclementi VII. Pontifici Minimo, cujus victa virtus sola avaritia superata est;” so that it had to be carved in marble and a guard set over it. Except two of his servants, no one, either of his relations or friends, grieved for his death. The creation of Paul III. has given the greatest pleasure to the city, and the French Cardinals are highly praised and thanked. They will stay here a few days longer.
Lorraine says he has written to the King. He wishes to go to England.
Barbarossa's army has taken Tunis, a city as large as Rome, and which threatens both Spain and Italy. The Emperor must either be strong enough to fight him or be continually on the defensive. Rome, 15 Oct. 1534. Signed.
Ital., pp. 3. Add. Sealed.

Footnotes

  • 1. Bishop Gardiner.
  • 2. Redlynch in Somersetshire, the place of chief justice Fitz James.