House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 26 November 1606 (2nd scribe)

Mercurii, 26o Die Novembris

Free Trade.

2. Reading: - B. To explain a former Act, made in the first Session of this Parliament, intituled, An Act to enable all his Majesty's loving Subjects to trade, &c. - Sir Wm. Strowd, Burgesses of Exceter, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Tate, Mr. Martin, Mr. Barker, Sir Tho. Waller, Mr. Peak, Mr. Bryers, Sir Edwyn Sandys, Sir Fr. Barrington, Sir Rich. Hawkins, Sir Edw. Grevill, Sir Gam. Capell, Mr. Bing, Mr. Upton, Sir Antho. Rowse, Sir Nath. Bacon, Sir John Hubbard, Mr. Dannett, Mr. Hoskyns: - To-morrow, in the Exchequer Chamber.

Evelin's Estate.

2. Reading: - B. For the better Enabling of John Evelin, Esquire, to make Sale of certain Lands, for Payment of his Debts : Committed, to Sir Geo. Moore, Sir H. Nevill, Sir Geo. Rivers, Mr. Cognisby, Sir Edw. Hobby, Sir Edm. Bowyer, Sir Rob. Wingfield, Sir Nicholas Saunders, Mr. Martin, Mr. Hoskins, Sir Edw. Hext, Mr. Adryan Staughton, Sir Rob. Moore, Mr. Irby, Mr. Tucker, Sir Rob. Johnson, Mr. Lieutenant of the Tower, Sir Wm. Bowyer, Mr. Rob. Bowyer, Mr. Overbury, Sir Edw. Grevill, Sir Rob. Phelips, Mr. Davyes, Mr. Trevor:

- To-morrow, Temple Hall.

Mounpesson's Estate.

2. Reading: - B. For the Sale of some of the Lands of Tho. Mounpesson, Esquire, for Payment of his Debts : Committed to Sir John Hungerford, Sir Jerome Horsey, Mr. Alex. Tutt, Sir Wm. Ayre, Mr. Martin, Mr. Matthewe Lee, Mr. Gyles Tooker, Mr. Diggs, Mr. Lawrence Hyde, Mr. Nich. Hyde, Sir Edm. Ludlowe, Mr. Chock, Sir Fr. Popham, Sir Rob. Phelips, Sir Walter Vaughan, Sir Edw. Hobby, Sir H. Poole, Mr. John Hungerford, Sir Wm. Bulstrod, Sir John Heigham, Sir Rob. Cotton:

- Saturday, Exchequer Chamber.

Lake's Statute.

A Letter from certain of the Feoffees for the Use of Sir Hugh Losse, read in the House : And ordered, that Tho. Lake's Statute should be delivered to the Feoffees. Mr. Fuller to see it,

Fame of worthy Persons.

B. For the better Continuance of the Fame and Memory of noble and worthy Persons deceased : Committed to Sir Geo. Moore, Mr. Tate, Sir Rob. Cotton, Sir Henry Nevill, Sir Oliver Cromwell, Sir Fr. Lee, Mr. Oldsworth, Mr. Noy, Mr. Brooks, Sir Mich. Stanhope, Sir Tho. Crompton, Sir Wm. Strowd, Mr. D. James, Sir Fr. Barrington, Sir Gam. Capell, Mr. Dudley Carleton, Mr. Parkinson, Sir Rob. Wingfield, Mr. Yong, Mr. Martin, Sir Wm. Morrice, Sir Antho. Cope, Sir Walter Cope: - Temple Hall, Monday.

Union with Scotland.

Mr. Recorder maketh Report from the Lords, of their Meeting. - Heard what the Lords.

Lord Chancellor : - Silence in Consultation effected nothing. If all were Hearers, none Speakers, uncomfortable. If Power had been given to speak, he doubted not of Concurrence. -

That he would propound only, not persuade or prove. -

That there might be a free Conference. -

Three Parts: Hostility: What Laws in both Kingdoms -

The Parts singled. -

That, in a Cause of that Gravity, we would proceed without Levity, according to the King's Speech.

Earl of Salisbury: - He would not speak of God's Work, or the King's. - Give Thanks to God, that he had made the King an Instrument of such a Happiness. -

A Beginning well made. -

A Thing of great Weight: How to handle it. Whether to weave it into one, or to distribute it.

Considered to all the Three Parts. -

Make a selected Deputation. - To have a free and a liberal Consultation. -

The Spirit. -

The Earl of Northampton: - In the Civil Law Two Points; mandata, et deposita. - He had a hand in the Framing, he was now to give.

What was begun with a good Hope, may be now effected with Industry. -

1. To remove all Marks of Hostility. -

Mandatorie, what he spoke. - Quod tangit omnes, ab omnibus debet approbari. -

Reason for Resolution : The Expectation of our Country : The Expectation of the World abroad. -

Some have written, that Distraction would appear in the Handling. He wished, that he might be a false Prophet.

My Lord Treasurer : - By Silence some Impediment; by a free Consultation, some better Speed.

Sir Edw. Grevill: - 1. To confer with the Lords : 2. To confer amongst ourselves. -

To consider of all the Three Parts among ourselves, before we confer with the Lords.

Mr. Martin remembereth something omitted. - Earl of Salisbury, - bring no Prejudice, or Partiality; no base Fear. If any Man would except against any thing in the Instrument, so it be spoken with Modesty, and Civility -

The Cause the Greatest: Therefore to use all the Powers of every Man in this Case. -

Conferences, in this, so necessary, as they cannot be avoided. Conferences never brought Advantage. -

The Two first Points to be put into Bills by us; the Two latter by the Lords, as understanding State better.

Sir Francis Bacon: - Simplices sint rogationes; ne populus, quod nolit, accipiat, quod velit, amittat.

To speak, not in Mass, but in Branches.

The Matter divides itself. -

Commerce, and Naturalization, of Affinity.

Englishmen's Custom, and Patrimony, a near Affinity. -

Opening of Streams of Water, Opening of Veins of Blood. -

The Matter to be carried on in Conferences. Matter of State, as of Providence; not of present feeling. -

Use them, and stand upon the upper Ground. -

The Matter of the Name carried in a Conference. - ~

The first Act in a Conference. -

The Commission, in the Nature of a Conference. -

Dum res in motu sunt, huc illuc pelluntur: Otherwise, when they are fixed. -

Begin, as we began the Bill of Recusants. -

The Lords prepared themselves, in a Conference; we prepared ourselves; the King writ from Royston; all concurred in one unisone Form: Compared to the Septuagint; though in several Cells, all agreed in one Translation.

Sir Henry Poole: - That a several Day be given to every several Point.

Mr. Speaker remembereth the Propositions for the Manner of proceeding.

Sir Geo. Moore: - Union, the Work of God, in the Beginning.

Sir Geo. Moore: - That a Committee might be named by ourselves, and meet this Afternoon, and To-morrow; and then send to the Lords.

Sir Wm. Strowd, - for Mr. Martin's Motion.

Sir Herbert Crofts, - for a Question, whether to proceed by a continued Conference. -

The first Question, whether to confer with the Lords, touching Distribution, and the Manner of proceeding.

This Dispute to be deferred till To-morrow.

To dispute, what Answer shall be given unto the Lords.