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Nov. 5.
Theobalds. |
170. Proclamation forbidding the sale of any spices, drugs, fruits,
seeds, and other merchandise garbleable without being garbled and
made clean, packed, marked, or made wholesome for man's use, or
the good severed from the bad by the garblers duly appointed, upon
severe penalties. [Printed. Proclamations, Jac. I., Vol. CLXXXVII.,
No. 105, Cal., p. 460.] |
Nov. 5.
Aboard the Discovery. |
171. Report of Thomas Reede and others upon the defects in the
ship Discovery. [One page. O.C., Vol. IX., No. 1085.] |
Nov. 12 and Dec. 30.
Batavia. |
172. The Fiscal's process against the English for taking the
China junk. [Dutch, mutilated by damp. Thirty-seven pages.
O.C., Vol. IX., No. 1081.] |
Nov. 12 and Dec. 30.
Batavia. |
173. English translation of the preceding by Bartholomew Wayte.
Johnson contradicted himself; he "did not well call to mind that a
liar hath need of a good memory." The oaths of the English are
not to be trusted, for "he that dareth to steal will both swear and
lie, to the end he may keep both his credit and the booty." The
whole of the Sumatra coast from the Straits of Sunda to Acheen is
called by the Chinese Lampong; therefore it is true that the junk
was taken off Lampong. The English are "so impudent in their
shiftings" that the fiscal fears "they will presume to say the sun
shineth not at high noon." Thinks, with Cato, that when a case
can be made manifest neither by writings nor witnesses, credit
should be given to the plaintiff. The English are sentenced to pay
8,1157/8 ryals to the Chinese for goods taken, and 10,500 to the Dutch
Government for expenses and damages; the fiscal to have 200; no
appeal to be allowed, and Robert Johnson not to be exempted from
further proceedings. An invoice of the goods taken is annexed.
[Twenty-eight pages. O.C., Vol. IX., No. 1082.] |
Nov. 14.
Firando. |
174. Richard Cocks to the East India Company. Recommends
the bearer, John Portis, a Scotchman, who when "a young youth"
was sent into Spain to learn the language, thence to Mexico,
afterwards to Manilla, from whence he came to Japan, where he has
served the Company five or six years, but has never hitherto received
any wages. [One page. O.C., Vol. IX., No. 1086.] |
Nov. 14.
Firando. |
175. Richard Cocks to the East India Company. The Dutch
ships sent with his last letter (see No. 146) returned on the 19th
in great extremity, having been caught in a storm; others thought
to be cast away. The Palsgrave and Peppercorn put to sea on
17th Oct., as also two Dutch ships. The Moon and Bull to sail for
Jambi, the Bull having a cargo of money and merchandise. The
Elizabeth will be despatched as soon as their debts come in. Edmond
Sayer and Richard Hudson ready to go to Yedo with presents for
the Emperor and Council. Joseph Cockram goes in the Bull to
Jacatra, so Cocks and John Osterwick and Eaton must of necessity
wait for the Elizabeth. The unruliness of mariners and sailors, and
some not of the meanest sort, "who daily lie ashore at tippling
howses." Sends 100l. to pay 200l. in England of Capt. William
Adams' [Addames] moneys, to be paid to his widow, Mary Adams,
and her daughter. A like amount was sent in the Royal James.
[One page and a half. O.C., Vol. IX., No. 1078.] |
| Nov. 16. |
176. Marquis of Buckingham to Sir Edward Conway. For
your coming down with the Dutchmen his Majesty is well pleased
with it, so that you come either before or after them, and not in
their company, lest notice should be taken of it. And when you
come I pray you bring down your hawk with you, for I have told
the King of her. [Extract from Dom. Jac. I., Vol. CXXXIV.,
No. 13, Cal., p. 461.] |
| Nov. 16. |
177. Memoranda by Hugh More, purser of the Moon, of having
received from Richard Cocks at Firanda, 100 ryals to be let out to
the Moon's company at 10s. the ryal, to be paid in England to Mary
Addames, widow of Captain William Addames. [One page. O.C.,
Vol. IX., No. 1087.] |
| Nov. 19. |
178. The Lords Commissioners for the Treaty to the King.
Have, according to his Majesty's commandment at Theobalds,
given divers meetings to the States Ambassadors, and followed
the way his Majesty prescribed, the merchants also met together,
the English never failing except once, when they were attending
the Privy Council. The matter of Bantam was first discussed
and referred to the merchants, who found their demands both
unreasonable and exorbitant. In the three points of the discount
of pepper brought into Holland, restitution of goods at Lantar, and
exchange of ryals of eight, their Lordships could obtain no reasonable satisfaction, nevertheless to show their Lordships' earnest desire
of accommodation they proceeded to the reglement of trade. Of
the many particular demands of the English merchants, the Lords
Commissioners insisted principally on three, which seemed of such
necessity that the merchants, when earnestly pressed in private
to yield to the uttermost, protested vehemently that without
redress in those things they could not maintain that trade nor
draw adventurers to contribute thereunto. One of these was the
assignment of places for erecting forts, which, though their Lordships
conceive they have liberty to do in the Moluccas, Amboyna, and
Banda, the three years limited by the treaty having expired; yet
the Ambassadors not only deny it in those places without their
consent, but in all other places in the Indies. Secondly, their Lordships required that each Company should govern and tax their own
nation, but "thereunto we could find them no ways inclining" for
howsoever they avoided the name of sovereignty (which was ever
earnestly protested against) yet they pressed the art and practice
thereof. And lastly, that the number of 20 ships of defence (left
certainly indefinite in the treaty) should be left to the judgment of
the Council of Defence; for the English Company protest that neither
can their trade maintain their proportion of 10 ships, nor has there
been any necessity for maintaining that number for defence of it.
The dispute on this question the Privy Council left to the decision
of his Majesty and the States by the 30th article of the treaty, and
for offence it is not warranted by the treaty. All these points of
reglement having been long debated yesterday, at last the merchants
left their Lordships to speak privately together, "we conceiving their
purpose to have been to accommodate their business between ourselves, but contrary to their Lordships' expectations, the Ambassadors
passing by all business, announced their resolution to begin their
journey this morning towards Newmarket." Thought it strange
they should never acquaint their Lordships with their intention till
six o'clock yesternight, "our carriage we hope having deserved well
at their hands, though we must confess to your Majesty that yesterday the language both of the Ambassadors and their merchants was
in a higher strain of sovereignty in the Indies than we expected."
Endorsed by Bradshaw, "Relating passages at the treaty, &c."
[East Indies, Vol. II., No. 29.] |
Nov. 19.
London. |
179. Sir Francis Nethersole to (Carleton). The States Ambassadors are going to Newmarket to-morrow to try if they can there
come to any end of their business with the King, being out of hope
of it by way of treaty with the Lords. [Extract from Holland
Corresp.] |
Nov. 23.
Firando. |
180. Richard Cocks to [the East India Company]. The Bull
detained by contrary winds. The King of Firando's secretary has
just paid in 2,000 taies in plate of bars in part payment of 3,000
lent him last year. Sends inventory of the merchandise taken by
the fleet of defence the first voyage. [Half a page. O.C., Vol. IX.,
No. 1088.] |
| Nov. 24. |
181. Locke to Carleton. He will see by the enclosed letter
[wanting] the progress the States [Ambassadors] are like to make
in their business with the [English] merchants. Does not hear that
they [the Ambassadors] are yet gone to Newmarket; "they play
fast and loose strangely." [Extract from Domestic Corresp., Jac. I.,
Vol. CXXXIV., No. 26, Cal., p. 463.] |
Nov. 24.
[Jacatra.] |
182. Edward Grant, purser of the Diamond, to the East India
Company. Has sent home by Robert Smith, purser in the Jonas,
the accounts of those men who have died since Oct. 8, and nine wills.
Their long and tedious voyage since 8 Oct. 1621. Fought with
three carracks and a galleon of Portugal, and sunk and spoiled the
carracks, but not the galleon. Makes no doubt Capt. Greene has
informed them of particulars of the voyage, and the debts of the deceased commanders, "as Captain Harbortt (?) and the rest." Capture
of other vessels, including a junk with "som stoor of negers, which
was devided by twick the Duch and the English." In the capture
of the carracks 300 Portugals were killed, 150 drowned, and 100
taken prisoners, with two women. Reached Swally 25th of Oct.,
where they have been taking in water and provisions. The four
Dutch ships, with the Exchange and Anne, have just sailed for Goa,
and the Diamond will follow in four or five days. [One page. O.C.,
Vol. IX., No. 1089.] |
| Nov. ? |
183. [Sir Edward Conway] to his Excellency [the Marquis of
Buckingham.] Shortly upon the receipt of his letter, one of the
States Ambassadors [M. Stavines] came to Conway to let him know
how, after a sharp debate with the Lords [of the Privy Council],
they had acquainted their Lordships that they had spent much
time with no fruit, and that they would go to his Majesty and
depend upon his wisdom, justice, and favour for some happy issue
of their work. Conway found that to the former question of restitution the English merchants had brought in propositions for the
regulating of trade, and that the question whereon they came to a
stand was concerning forts, being the last article. His reasons for
apprehending that this was not the proper time to dispute the forts.
Discussion with M. Stavines, that the States Ambassadors would
apply themselves in all points that might concern his Majesty's
honour, the equity of trade, reputation of the nation, equality of
justice, or freedom of use or conversation. Upon the points of resti
tution they took a fair and clear way in the balancing of the interchangeable charges; and propounded what would be reason and
justice with a little polishing; "I saw a fruit of misunderstanding,
but could not see the root; I saw how rawly and distastefully they
proposed to go trouble his Majesty." Therefore he told Mons. Stavines
how utterly he misliked that deliberation of theirs, and how with
the Ambassadors' consent he had proposed to Buckingham and then
to the Lord Treasurer a conclusion of the point of restitution by
consenting upon a competent sum in gross; that he (Conway)
saw no irreconcileable differences in the rules of trade; that the
Ambassadors if they abruptly parted with the Council must not
look to have better acceptance with his Majesty, to whose decision
such points only should be left as needed a supreme judgment and
authority. Then propounded he would resume the overture to
the Lord Treasurer of ending the point of restitution by a gross
sum, which if the Ambassadors concluded well with our merchants
would procure the former a gracious address to his Majesty from
the Lords, "which I did advise them by all means to esteem. Here
the conference brake." Early the next morning Mons. Stavines
entreated Conway to make an overture and procure an interview
between the Lord Treasurer and the States Ambassadors. Account
of Conway's interview with the Lord Treasurer; arguments as
whether this time were proper to dispute the forts, and whether
it were not more "councellable" to win a competent sum of restitution for the merchants and to establish to them a trade, with
which they might have time to discover where and prepare how
to make and maintain forts; that the time of building forts was
three years after the publication of the treaty in the Indies. Interview at Chelsea between the Lord Treasurer and the States Ambassadors, at which Conway was present, where was a civil,
temperate, and effectual debatement of several points too long to
trouble his Excellency with. The conclusion was their suit to the
Lord Treasurer both to procure an [interview] with their Lordships
(of the Privy Council) and accommodation of the things treated
with equity and favour, which the Lord Treasurer promised to
endeavour. [Four pages. East Indies, Vol. II., No. 30.]
[When Conway was sworn Secretary of State on 16 Jan. 1622–3,
Chamberlain, in a letter to Carleton of 25 Jan., wrote that the King
commended Conway's birth, &c., &c., "others add his courtiership in
trying to fasten the title of Excellency on Buckingham."] |
Nov. 25.
Newmarket. |
184. Marquis of Buckingham to Sir Edward Conway. Thanks
him for his good offices between the States Ambassadors and our
merchants, for which his Majesty also gives him many thanks, and
desires him to go on in the same course. The King takes well the
Lord Treasurer's civil usage of the Ambassadors, seeing they complained before of his hardness, and desires them both to endeavour
by all means to bring matters as near an end as may be before the
business be brought to his Majesty again. As for the point of the
forts, his Majesty finds Conway is somewhat mistaken, for although
the merchants would be contented with that course, the King will
never suffer them to trade in that fashion at the others' courtesy;
but for that point his Majesty would have it left to the last.
[East Indies, Vol. II., No. 31.] |
Nov. 25.
Newmarket. |
185. Modern copy of the above. [Domestic Corresp., Jac. I.,
Vol. CXXXIV., No. 29, Cal., p. 463.] |
| Nov. 30. |
186. Locke to Carleton. The States [Commissioners] have
agreed upon nothing but that three disinterested merchants be
chosen on each side to make an end of the difference concerning the
pepper that was brought into Holland, and if they cannot accord, a
seventh man is to be chosen "to cast the voices." [Extract from
Domestic Corresp., Jac. I., Vol. CXXXIV., No. 39, Cal., p. 465.] |
