Venice: June 1523

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June 1523

June 1. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiv. p. 224. 683. Antonio Surian to the Signory.
The galleys are laden, and will depart on their homeward voyage in the middle of June.
London, 1st June. Registered by Sanuto, 30th June.
[Italian.]
June 6. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiv. p. 190. 684. Pace's Negotiations.
Report to the Signory by Alvise Mocenigo, one of the three commissioners appointed to negotiate with the Imperial and English ambassadors, who informed the College that in lieu of the 200,000 ducats offered in the time of Adorno they now insisted on 250,000 ducats; that instead of 5,000 ducats for the fourth of the confiscated property of the rebels, they required 6,000; that the number of galleys offered for the defence of the kingdom of Naples must be increased from 15 to 20; and that the Signory must decide, because Pace meant to depart. The Doge replied that the Signory would consider and communicate their reply.
[Italian.]
June 6. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. 1. p. 20, tergo. 685. Pace's Negotiations.
Put to the ballot, that our commissioners answer they acquainted the Senate with the proposals made by the Imperial ambassador, both as to the demand for 225,000 crowns, videlicet, 75,000 in ready money, and the rest in five years, and for 20 galleys with 1,500 infantry, or at least a thousand, and 6,000 ducats for the emigrants. (fn. 1)
That these demands surprised us, as the offers already made last January in the lifetime of Hieronymo Adorno exceeded the Signory's means, on account of the great cost incurred since the loss of Rhodes for their fleet and garrisons. Are of opinion that the Emperor should accept their last offer, namely, 200,000 crowns in eight years, 15 galleys, and 5,000 ducats for the emigrants.
To inform the Imperial and English ambassadors that the Signory will not ratify the agreement until after the receipt at Venice of the mandate and assent of the Archduke Ferdinand.
Ayes, 76. Noes, 109. Neutrals, 10.
[Italian, 35 lines.]
June 7. Original Letter Book, Letter no. 214, St. Mark's Library. 686. Gasparo Contarini to the Signory.
The Emperor was expecting three ships from the Indies. Gold to the amount of 60,000 ducats, and produce worth as much more, were on board of two of them. They have been captured by certain Frenchmen, and the third vessel, which was in ballast, escaped.
The Emperor has notified at all the seaports in Spain that any of his subjects recovering these prizes shall receive one-half of their value, it being supposed that the Frenchmen are still at sea, and on the look-out for another ship from the Indies freighted with gold to the amount of upwards of 300,000 ducats. Arrangements are being made for its safe convoy.
Valladolid, 7th June 1523.
[Italian, 1 page.]
June 8. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiv. p. 234. 687. Antonio Surian to the Signory.
The King wanted to make the galleys unload the wools because they had not paid certain duties.
The Bishop of Winchester, who is much about the King, (fn. 2) but is blind, has advised him to make truce with France, and to recal two captains (fn. 3) sent by Wolsey against France for the sake of keeping them at a distance from the Court. The Bishop says that money is expended fruitlessly, and it seems that the Cardinal is no longer in such great favour with the King as formerly.
London, 8th June. Registered by Sanuto, 11th July.
[Italian.]
June 9. Mantuan Archives. 688. Gabriele Cesano to Battista Abbati, Secretary of Federigo Gonzaga, Marquis of Mantua.
Will not fail to keep negotiations on foot, and endeavour to demonstrate his devotion to the Marquis.
The bearer, Battista Sambuello, has taken great pains to procure horses, and to deliver them in good condition to the Marquis, from the King.
Offers his services to Abbati, and requests that he will keep him in favour with the Marquis.
From the English Court (in curia invictissimi Anglice Regis), 9th June 1523.
Signed: Gabriele Cesano.
[Original, Italian.]
June 12. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiv. p. 196. 689. Pace's Negotiations.
The Imperial and English ambassadors came into the College and demanded audience in presence of the Chiefs of the Ten. They said they had good news to give; that the mandate from the Archduke Ferdinand had been received by his ambassador; but they did not come with him, having hitherto negotiated this agreement by themselves. They requested the Signory either to authorize the commissioners, or to treat the agreement in the College, as they (the ambassadors) wished to bring it to a conclusion; and that this should be done speedily, because Pace was obliged to depart. The ambassadors withdrew, and were afterwards informed that the Signory wished to see the mandate and commission. The Doge evinced satisfaction at its receipt, so it only remains for them to exhibit it.
[Italian.]
June 12. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. l. p. 21. 690. The Proposed League.
The Senate having heard the Doge's report of what was said this morning by the Imperial and English ambassadors, and subsequently by the ambassador of the Archduke,—
Put to the ballot, that the Doge tell the Archduke's ambassador (fn. 4) that the Senate has well pondered his Prince's mandate, which appears to them a private power for the negotiation of matters between his Serenity and the Republic rather than with the Emperor. They therefore think that it would be well for the ambassador to write to the Archduke to send him a power to agree to whatever shall be stipulated between the Emperor and the Signory concerning his Highness in the peace and confederacy which are now being negotiated, as the Signory has always been assured by the Imperial and English ambassadors that the Archduke would do, to which effect his ambassador had read to the Signory a paragraph in a letter from him, dated Inspruck the 6th instant.
The like answer given to the other two ambassadors—Imperialist and English.
Ayes, 169. Noes, 11. Neutrals, 4.
[Italian, 20 lines.]
June 15. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiv. p. 199. 691. The Question of Precedence.
On Monday, the festival of San Vido, the Doge walked in procession as usual. Six ambassadors accompanied him, those of the Pope, the Emperor, France, Austria, Ferrara, and Mantua. The English ambassador was not present, because he will not take place below France.
[Italian.]
June 19. Mantuan Archives. 692. Gabriele Cesano to the Marquis of Mantua.
The bearer of the present letter, Battista, is on his way to the Marquis with, horses from the King. Does not let him depart without letters to remind the Marquis of his observance.
In a former letter acquainted the Marquis's secretary, Messere Battista, with the goodwill which the King bears the Marquis, and the wish he has to do what is agreeable to him, and that this is not the moment in which to execute the commands given by the Marquis to him (Cesano) when he quitted Mantua.
The King and Cardinal wrote also to this effect heretofore.
Will not fail to keep the negotiation alive, so as to be able to treat it in fitting time and place, and do what he can for the service of the Marquis, to whom he will notify the result by letter.
From the English Court (in curia invictissimi Angliæ Regis) 19th June 1523.
Signed: Gab. Cesan, secretary, &c.
[Original, Italian.]
June 21. Original Letter Book, Letter no. 215, St. Mark's Library. 693. Gasparo Contarini to the Signory.
The Emperor sends 3,000 Spaniards to England, whence they will cross over to Flanders for an attack on France.
An English ambassador, a gentleman in waiting on the King [Sir Richard Jernyngham], has arrived at Valladolid. The State will doubtless have been acquainted with the object of his mission by the ambassador Surian. (fn. 5)
A few days ago the Emperor went to Medina, to meet his sister, the Queen of Portugal, and they then proceeded together to Tordesillas. They are expected to be at Valladolid tomorrow.
Valladolid, 21st June 1523.
[Italian, 1½ page.]
June 22. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiv. p. 238. 694. Antonio Surian to the Signory.
The affair of the Flanders galleys has been arranged. They are off St. Edward's, about to set sail.
London, 22nd June 1523. Registered by Sanuto, 15th July.
[Italian.]
June 22. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiv. p. 209. 695. Pace's Negotiations.
The English ambassador came into College urging the despatch of what has to be done. He was told that as one of the commissioners, Zorzi Cornaro, was indisposed, they had been unable to go [to Pace ?]. Pace said they might send the other commissioners, as everything will be stipulated according to the understanding between the Signory and Adorno.
[Italian.]
June 23. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiv. p. 209. 696. Nicolo Leonico.
Motion made in the Senate by the counsellors, that as a favour at the request of the ambassador from England, Dom. Nicolò Leonico be allowed to print his commentaries “in parvia naturalibus.”
Carried.
[Italian.]
June 23. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiv. pp. 210, 211. 697. Negotiations of Pace and his Colleagues.
After the strictest injunctions to secrecy, the Doge rose in the Senate and stated that on Sunday last the secretaries of the ambassadors [Sanchez, Caracciolo, and Pace] went to the College, requiring the commissioners to assemble and conclude. They were told in reply that Zorzi Cornaro, one of the commissioners, could not attend, having a sore foot. Caracciolo having been to Cornaro, and finding him unable to move, went yesterday to the College with Sanchez and Pace, saying that as all the three commissioners could not act, it would be well to discuss the matter in the College, and said it might be concluded by granting 225,000 ducats for the investitures, 8,000 ducats in lieu of 4,000 ducats for the fourth part of the estates belonging to the outlaws, and 20 galleys for the defence of Puglia. The Doge said the State could not give more than 200,000 ducats and 15 galleys, and that instead of the 6,000 ducats [at first] demanded for the outlaws, the Signory would give 5,000. The Doge announced this as the ultimatum, and more than the State could afford by reason of the Turk. The ambassadors wished another appeal to be made to the Senate, for the grant at least of two of the demands, if not of all three. The Doge told them there was no occasion to return. Then this morning the Papal Legate, Campeggio, and Pace, the English ambassador, came into the College, the former presenting a brief of credence, and saying he had also received a brief urging the Signory to ratify the agreement, as he hoped it would be the cause of peace between the Emperor and France. The English ambassador also exhorted the Signory in like manner. Then the Legate said he would guarantee the Emperor's acceptance of the 5,000 ducats; and Pace said, “And I hold myself responsible for the diminution of the 25,000 ducats: so as your Serenity wills it, thus be the matter concluded.” The Doge told them he was perfectly satisfied, but that it was requisite to have the consent of the Imperialists, for Don Alfonso Sanchez was somewhat indisposed. With this they departed, and in the afternoon Pace went to speak with the Doge, who, considering the vast importance of the matter, did not think fit to refuse, although forbidden to receive similar visits. Pace said he had been with the Imperial ambassadors, who consented, and were drawing up the articles. So the affair may be said to be concluded, but must remain secret on account of the great danger to which our Flanders galleys (worth a vast sum of gold) are exposed on their homeward voyage having to pass by French towns and harbours. The strictest secrecy was enjoined, the oath being administered a second time to everybody.
The Doge also said that on Monday the French ambassador went into the College, desiring to know whether this Prothonotary Caracciolo brought any fresh commission, and whether he, the French ambassador, should write to the King of France to send “that personage” whom he had intended sending to the Signory. He stated that the Bishop of Bayeux will soon be in Venice.
The Doge told him nothing was concluded, and the State was procrastinating, but that her affairs were in danger, and the King of France would do well to make some arrangement. The ambassador departed not well satisfied.
The Doge having concluded this report, the whole Senate remained in suspense, for they would have wished for further delay, and the commissioners appointed, namely, Mocenigo and Venier (Cornaro was absent, being sick), went into the chancery with the secretary Vielmi, to note the articles.
[Italian.]
June 23. Senato Terra, v. xxiii. p. 21. 698. Petition of Richard Pace in favour of Leonico the Hellenist.
The Signory has been requested by the reverend ambassador of the King of England, as Dom. Mcolaus Leonicus Thomeus purposes publishing a commentary concerning natural history, translated from Greek to Latin, and explained by him after the fashion of the ancients, to grant him the exclusive copyright.
Put to the ballot, that it be conceded to the said Leonicus that no one but himself may print, or sell when printed, his aforesaid commentary, either at Venice or elsewhere in the Signory's dominions, unless it be the person to whom said Leonicus shall choose to intrust the printing and selling of the same, under penalty of forfeiting the book or books, and paying a fine of 10 ducats for each book, of which fine one-third to be paid to the magistracy in receipt of the first denunciation, one-third to the informer, and the last third to the Foundling Hospital in Venice.
The copyright to remain in force for 10 years.
Ayes, 128. Noes, 3. Neutrals, 2.
The letters patent were made out on—June.
[Latin, 15 lines.]
June 24. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiv. p. 145. 699. Martin Luther.
Letter presented to the Doge by the Mantuan ambassador, received from Inspruck, stating that the Archduke had caused all the books of Martin Luther, and their printer in person, to be burnt. (fn. 6)
[Italian.]

Footnotes

  • 1. Venetian subjects by birth, who had adhered to the Emperor during the league of Cambrai, and emigrated because their estates were confiscated. Amongst these emigrants was a Veronese, Count Nogarola, in one of whose daughters the Emperor Charles V. took great interest, at the time of the birth of Margaret of Austria at Valladolid, in the summer of 1523. The mother of Margaret of Austria, was called Van Geste, but it is possible that her maiden name was Nogarola. It is certain that at Burgos in May 1524, the Emperor gave a marriage portion to one of the daughters of the Count Girolamo Nogarola. The story of the marriage portion and of the birth of Margaret of Austria is told by Gasparo Contarini, date 23 May 1524 and 2G January 1525.
  • 2. “Qual è molto appresso il Re,”—who has much influence with the King (?).
  • 3. Qu., the Duke of Suffolk, general of the English army in France, and Sir William Fitzwilliam, vice-admiral, commander of the fleet in the Channel.
  • 4. Vido dalla Torre? See Deliberazioni Senato, vol. 1., p. 87, tergo, 1524, 26 July:—“Essendosi hora per partir de qui il Mco. D. Vido dalla Torre, orator del Serenissimo Archiduca,” etc.
  • 5. Concerning the arrival of Sir Richard Jernyngham in Spain, see “State Papers,” vol. vi. part 5, pp. 143 and following; also Harleian Catalogue, vol. i, pp. 178, 179.
  • 6. See 13th May.