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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1875.

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'Henry VIII: September 1530, 16-30', in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530, ed. J S Brewer( London, 1875), British History Online https://prod.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol4/pp2981-2999 [accessed 16 November 2024].

September 1530



16 Sept. Add. MS. 28,581, f. 126. B. M.	6618. THE DIVORCE.
	From a letter of baron dal Borgho, of 16 Sept. 1530.
	On requesting the king of England to assist for his part against the Turk, he replied he did not believe the Turk was going to do such serious mischief. Reports the complaints made by the King against the Pope, which he endeavored to answer, viz., of having revoked the legates, and committed the cause to the Rota,—of the inhibition "mandata in mano della regina;" and that unless the case were committed to the archbishop of Canterbury, or to the Church of England, he was determined to go on, for he knew his Holiness had promised the Emperor to give sentence in favor of the Queen. Proposed to the King that two judges be elected by him, and two by the Queen. The King was not satisfied with this, and on Borgho proposing that his Holiness should choose a fifth, the King said if it came to that, he would prefer the fifth to be elected by the French king, who was related to the Emperor, and a friend to himself, but he could not agree that the cause should be judged out of the kingdom. This discussion was prolonged almost until night, and they were beginning to talk about other matters, when the King desired him to speak with the duke of Norfolk and Dr. Steven. On doing so, the Duke professed himself devoted to the Holy See; but said that where the King had distinctly declared his will for one thing more than another, he must support his Majesty, and that the King would never consent that the cause should be judged outside the kingdom. The King afterwards told him the same, and said he had prorogued the diet that was to take place in England on the 2nd October for 20 days longer, during which, if no answer came, he would act for himself.
	On the subject of the Florentines he said he had already written in their favor. He does not wish to have an English cardinal, but recommends the Auditor and Casale. The writer thinks his Holiness should not desist from proceeding in the cause, if the King should promise not to proceed without him. The duke of Norfolk, though he did not say it in the name of the King, said he would lay his life upon it, that his Majesty would not proceed if nothing was done at Rome. "Et che questo sia secretissimo che forse si potria fare una suspension perpetuamente con disdetto de uno anno o sei mesi innanzi quum una parte non volesse stare a la suspensione." The King did not approve of the matter being remitted to the General Council. He will endeavor to arrange an interview of the King and the Emperor, and get the former to agree that the cause be committed to the Rota. He hears the King has asked that the duke of Orleans should go into Flanders under color of matrimony, &c.
	Ital., pp. 5, modern copy from Simancas.
16 Sept. R. O. Records of the Reformation, I. 423.	6619. CROKE to HENRY VIII.
	Fourteen hours after the bishop of London departed, the governor of Bologna knew everything that he had said or done in the King's cause, and told Croke that there were only seven friars at the first determination, and five at the last. He recited certain secret arguments in favor of the Levitical law against Deuteronomy. He knew that the bishop of London had left with Sir Andrew de Cassalis and Previdellus 1,600 cr.; and also of the books and bills left with Previdellus, who also told Croke that the governor knew of this. Sir Andrew told him that the governor had a copy of the last determination, and he had himself shown Croke a copy of the first. No one had copies of the determinations or transumpts, but the notaries, Pallavicinus, Sir Andrew, Sir Gregory, Previdellus, and some of the college.
	Those of the college, the notaries and Pallavicinus, swore it was not by them; and the governor swore that Pallavicinus swore true, saying that it was one of five who wrote in the King's favor that brought him the copy. The fathers and notaries thereupon swore also, and desired Croke to tell the governor that they would swear before his face, and if he would not call them to do so, to show him their subscriptions on oath. No one could tell of the money and bills left with Previdellus, but he, Sir Andrew, and Pallavicinus. The governor told Croke that Previdellus had told him of the arguments, and that he had seen Previdellus' counsel. No one knew what lawyers had written for the King, but the Cassalis and Previdellus, who is the governor'schief friend in Bologna, and heard the examination when the friars and doctors were cited. Both he and Sir Andrew blamed the notary and Pallavicinus, and said that the determination that the governor had was in the hand of the latter; but before his face, he denied it, and would have put the fault upon friar Nicolas, a learned man, and the King's faithful favorer. Could not get Sir Andrew to hear Pallavicinus' purgation. After telling Croke how the governor had cited the notaries, &c., and had been angry with him for refusing to tell what the bishop of London had done, he began to complain of his evil manner, calling him a subtle and false lying man, and begged Croke not to believe him if he said that it was he (Sir Andrew) who had given him the copy or any information. This made Croke desire Sir Andrew to come with him to the governor, but he would not enter his chamber. Both he and Previdellus seemed much alarmed when they heard that Pallavicinus would swear to the governor's face. Doubts not that it was they who uttered the King's secrets to the governor; partly because they had promised the bishop of London to get the determination of the whole college of lawyers at Bologna, and did not dare to attempt it, because of the Pope, they thought by craft to hinder it, and pick a thank of his Holiness; or else, finding that they could not do it, they caused the governor to do this, that they might be quit of their promise, and keep the King's money. Is not surprised at this, if what the Prothonotary said is true, that certain of the King's ambassadors advise him to hinder this matter as much as he can; which advice he has diligently followed. The bishop of London found in the Prothonotary's table an extract from the King's book, with this title, Hæc sunt quæ adducunt opinatores veritatis, by which extract the counsel sent by Cranmer was made. Got from the bishop of London this extract and Sir Gregory de Cassali's letter about the embezzling of the determination of England; "and how the prothonotary said to Marcus Janua, the which said to my lord of London, Quod pœnituisset ipsum subscripsisse operi Francisci,' the which is in your Highness's hand, `pœnitet etiam Franciscum;' and how he answered the Emperor's ambassador, `Non me impacchio,' saying unto him, `Quando vultis jugulare inter vos illam probissimam dominam;" and how he knew what was in the King's letters to the Pope concerning the brief and the restoration of the names burnt by the bishop of Vaison before the said letters came to Rome, which were sent in the packet to the bishop of London which was opened by Sir Andrew, Croke commits to the Bishop's report.
	Fears that the 400 cr. delivered to the Prothonotary will do rather harm than good, especially as Croke neither has his full diets nor any money to retain or confirm persons. Sends by Cranmer the names of those already retained. Bologna, 16 Sept.
	Hol., pp. 5. Add.: To the King's highness own hand. Archana. Endd.
Vit. B. XIII. 113. B. M.	2. Draft of a portion of the same.
	Hol., p. 1, mutilated.
R. O.	6620. JOHN CASALE to FRANCIS GEORGE.
	Ital., p. 1. Endd. by Croke: "The copy of the ambassador's letter to father Francis, delivered me by father Francis; by the which he would have imputed to me perfidiam suam done against the King at Vincence, Piene, and Rhodigo." Note on the letter: Manus Edmondi Harwel.
16 Sept. R. O.	6621. THOMAS HENNAGE to the ABBESS OF SYON.
	Asks for an answer to the King's letter bidding her give the reversion of a copyhold in Yercombe, Devon, now held by Rawlyn Larder, widow, to Robt. Hordon, of the wardrobe of robes. Hampton Court, 16 Sept.
	Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
16 Sept. Vit. B. XIII. 111 b. B. M.	6622. [CROKE to HENRY VIII.]
	On the reports mentioned in his other letter, made by Sir Andrew de Cassalis of the governor of Bologna, went to the governor. Told him he was the King's servant, sent with the bishop of London to ascertain the opinions of learned men in the King's cause; that he and all others had strict orders, upon pain of life, to use no sinister means, nor to move any one, prece, pretio, aut spe prœmii, to favor his cause, but only to exhort them to speak according to their learning and conscience, as they would answer before God. Considering that the Pope by his brief had given the same charge, and that the Bishop, Croke, and all others who had meddled in the cause, were quite sure that nothing had escaped them in transgression of the brief or the King's order, he was surprised that the governor, from illwill to the King, should, contrary to the Pope's will, try to deface the truth by threatening and frightening those who had determined on the King's side. Begged him to consider what he had done, for, seeing that he was of great authority and of the Pope's counsel, it would not be thought that he would have taken upon him to meddle between the King and the Emperor, in favor of the former, except from secret knowledge of the Pope's pleasure; and Croke prayed that his act might not cause the King to doubt the Pope's faith, or cause some great break between his Holiness and the King.
	To this the governor answered that he had not done it by the Pope's advice or order, nor from any illwill to the King, but to avoid the blame of negligence which he would have incurred by allowing such an open act as the determination of a whole college, within his governance. Said the determination of schools could neither advance nor "appeare" the common weal, and he knew not why "he should make such a ruffling to know ... unless but to put men in fear, and to hurt your Highness' [cause; and] that I told him not that of guess but of experience. To this [he answered] that your Highness had bound him to farther (fn. 1) right dimisse his lawful wife and marry another against ... mind and will, whom, as ye said, ye were sure that he wol ... sentence in this cause; the which words ye have spoken to ... that they cannot be denied, and I am glad that I may re[fer to his Holiness] for author of the same, for now need to doubt no fur[ther] that that ye have done is done as ye said, ex officio, that is ... ex mandato pontificis, et ex odio tam pontificis quam tuo in regem, b[ut] your displeasure the King's highness will count light of, and ... as ye are but a servant, and must obey the commandment [of your] master, the King's quarrel must be against your master, th[e which] forgetting all the continual and infinite kindness of the King[s highness] toward his Holiness can be content for his goodness secrea[tly to thwart] his said Highness; and I am afraid that this unkind beha[viour] shall cause orators of the Pope not only to have less creden[ce but] to fear the worst at his Highness' hand; that if his Hig[hness take] this your act as he ought to take it, I doubt not but not [only the] Pope, but also the Church of Rome, shall have great cause to curse the time that ye were born."
	At these words he trembled, asked how he could know the Pope's mind, being so far off, and offered to clear himself by summoning all with whom he had [spoken], and causing them to repeat what he had said on oath. Replied that he, as the King's servant, dared not judge the Pope's vice-legate, but he hoped that he would reverse his previous exhortation to the lawyers not to undertake the King's cause. He answered gently that it became Croke, as the agent of so [great a] prince, to hear the purgation of any who had offended him, and he would summon the chief doctors in law of Bologna, and show them that not only he but also the Pope would be very glad for them to speak and write the best they could for the King and all others privately. Asked him, "quid communiter et collegialiter ?" He said that they might do it collegialiter, if they spoke reverently of the Pope's power, which he would see them do, "and farther so that they ... ttheir college without his consent and thereunto ... by likelihood he would assign them b ... deter ... * * * [fi]rste that we were now s[ure] if he intermeddled not, by reason that the chief of the college, as he right well knew, was constrained by their learning to favor our cause, that the college would absolutely determine with us. The second was, that if he were present, or any words put into their determination, whereby the same should not make so strongly for us as we looked for, or if the college did not determine that your Highness could nor would not impute that displeasure but unto him and his acts, and not alonely unto him, considering my many expostulations with him on your Highness' behalf, but unto the Pope's holiness, without whose secret comfort it could not be possible that he durst attempt or maintain so great a displeasure against so great a prince as your Highness is, and therefore I bade him to look well upon the things, for it was nothing so light as he would think; and thus I left the governor the second time." Bonony, 16 Sept.
	Hol, draft, pp. 3, mutilated.
17 Sept. R. O. Records of the Reformation, I. 427.	6623. CROKE to HENRY VIII.
	Cranmer and Croke were yesterday with the governor, and prevailed on him to perform today what he promised yesterday. He sent for the chief doctors of law in Bologna, of whom only one came, and desired him on their behalf to assemble the college, and to determine for the king of England what seemed to them in accordance with justice and truth; he wished only that the college should not be summoned unknown to him, and that honorable words should be used of the Papal power; but if such words could not be used without making the determination weaker, or injuring the King's cause, he wished them to abstain from saying anything of the kind. Assures the King that the governor would be glad to do him pleasure, without offence to the Pope. His conduct for three days in the King's cause makes Croke think that the words he before spoke were by the provocation of some other.
	Dr. Gozadinus, who is retained for the King, promised to make the college determine in the speediest and best fashion that they could. Bologna, 17 Sept.
	Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
17 Sept. Vit. B. XIII. 114. B. M.	6624. [CROKE to STOKESLEY.]
	The g[overnor told Croke] of the numbers which were at the first and second determinations, and of every word that was spoken by Stokesley, as well at dinner as ... both times that he was here; what money he left for the [King's cause]; his arguments and probations for the Levitical law, and [the argu]mente he recited to Croke de substantia Deuteronomii apud ... Could not tell what he meant, nor how he formed it, nor to what end. Asks Stokesley to send a solution, that he may answer if it is objected to him. He knew what books Stokesley had left with Prævidellus to be g[iven to] Pallavicinus. Prævidellus tells him that the governor asked ... them. Sir Andrew tells him that the governor had a copy [of the] last original. Pallavicinus swore "that he se ... quondam episcopi Laudensis of the other transumpts." Doubts not that the governor has a copy of everything. The notary, Sir [Andrew], and Prævidellus say that Pallavicinus showed them to him, and that the copy was in his hand; but, before Pallavicinus, Sir Andrew denied it. Though he had used arguments to prove to Croke that it was Pallavicinus that showed the m[atter], when Pallavicinus asked him to go with him to see his purgation [before] the governor, Sir Andrew said that the matter did not pertain [to him], and he did not doubt him. The governor has seen Previ- dellus' counsel, and has sent for every doc[tor] that wrote for us. No one in Bologna is so privy with the g[overnor] as Previdellus. All Lady Day he was with the governor [at] the examination of the friars, and excused to Croke the governor's ... Both he and Sir Andrew are out of counten[ance, and] stagger and tremble in their tales when Croke talks with them. Dares to say that it was one or both of them that caused the gover[nor to act] as he did; for Pallavicinus has sworn, as Mr. Cranmer shall sh[ow you] of his own hand before the governor, who also put his hand upon the Gospel, and swore that Pallav[icinus had] sworn true. "And for because that the governor said to m[e] ... Andrew's report the said governor had afore said to him ... say that it was one of the five that wrote for us * * * to pray him that they might all come afore him and swear [a] declaration of their integrity and honesty in this behalf, that if he would not grant that (as he would not), that I should show him their hands and subscriptions." Perceives that the difficulty which the governor made, and the words which he spoke, came of another rather than of himself, viz., from Mr. Cranmer. Has so handled him that he is content to suffer the college to be assembled, and neither to be present himself nor prescribe how the college shall determine, but only desires them to show him their determination when it is made. He offered to tell this openly to the chief of the doctors in Croke's presence, and desired him to send for whom he pleased. Asked Sir Andrew de Cassalis and Previdellus who were the chief of the college? They said Godzedinus and Augustin Barow, but they could not be found at home. The governor has written to the duke of Norfolk that he will do all that he has promised. When Cassalis was told of the governor's doing, he said that letters had come from Sir Gregory at Rome;—which is untrue, "but thus they will pick thank." Cranmer says that it was written from Venice to Rome that Stokesley had marred all the King's matters there. Sir Andrew has been at Ferrara, and our matters are marred there, and no man has yet been sent thither. Pallavicinus has been going every day for a week, but has not gone. Martius Tullius came hither on Wednesday to find out when Stokesley would leave Bologna. The horse that Carre sent was marred before he came from Rome. Would have sent him a copy of his letter to the King, if he had time. The governor has in his letters named no number.
	Has written to the King about the Prothonotary's words to Stokesley concerning the contents of his Majesty's letters to the Pope, and his words to Marcus Janua " ... tet etiam Franciscum. And also of his words spoken, that some of [the King's amba]ssators bade him to let this his matter, as of his Non me" * * * Professes his faithfulness to him. Bo[logna], 17 Sept.
	Hol., draft, mutilated, pp. 3.
17 Sept. R. O. Rym. XIV. 397.	6625. THE DIVORCE.
	Sentence of the university of Toulouse touching the same. Toulouse, 17 Sept. 1530.
	Lat., vellum.
18 Sept. R. O. St. P. VII. 251.	6626. SIR GREGORY CASALE to HENRY VIII.
	The cardinal of Ancona, when he complained of the Pope's delay in the King's cause, told him privately, begging him not to divulge it, that though the Pope would not prevail upon our adversaries to abandon the cause, yet if they were to proceed to give sentence by contumacy, it would be a year, or even two, before they could arrive at it. I thought this not very likely, because the Pope was so desirous to gratify the Emperor he would not lose a day. But the Cardinal assured me, whatever speed they made in the process, the sentence would be put off, as the Holy See never did anything in a hurry, and reasons would be given to the Imperialists why it should not be passed; moreover he had never known a cause in which more doubt existed, and the Pope could never give sentence until the matter had been thoroughly discussed, else he was liable to be called to a Council. I answered that the King could not prove his opinion better than by showing those of learned men throughout Christendom; and as to the cause being doubtful, it was to be feared the benefit of the doubt would be given to the Emperor on account of the affair with the duke of Ferrara. The Cardinal said, as to my first remark, the Imperialists also might get opinions of universities; and as to the second, before sentence was passed, the Pope would be free from all these private influences.
	Cardinal Trani, on receipt of the King's letters, desired leave of the Pope to write, but the Pope said it was not right that he should offer an opinion. Trani now writes to your Majesty, and has requested me to ask your pardon for him. Rome, 18 Sept. 1530. Signed.
	Lat. Add. Endd.
18 Sept. R. O. Herbert, p. 140.	6627. SIR GREGORY CASALE to HENRY VIII.
	A few days since the Pope secretly proposed to me the following condition;—that your Majesty might be allowed to have two wives. I told him I could not undertake to make any such proposition, because I did not know whether it would satisfy your Majesty's conscience. I made this answer because I know that the Imperialists have this in view, and are urging it; but why I know not. Though I told the Pope I would not speak of it, I deemed it necessary to bring it to your Majesty's notice. I find the cardinal of Ancona's friendship of use in these matters. Rome, 18 Sept. 1530. Signed.
	Lat., p. 1. Add. Endd. by Wriothesley.
19 Sept. Add. MS. 28,581, f. 129. B. M.	6628. THE DIVORCE.
	Opinion of the university of Salamanca concerning the divorce of the king and queen of England.
	Narrates the facts of the case, proves that marriages of affinity are not contrary to the divine law, and answers objections to the validity of the papal dispensation. Salamanca, 1530, 19 Sept.
	Lat., pp. 18. Endd. Modern copy.
21 Sept. Add. MS. 28,581, f. 139. B. M.	6629. THE DIVORCE.
	Notarial instrument made by Didacus Lupi de Fuentelisaz, attesting that the rector and doctors of the university of Alcala have unanimously determined on five propositions concerning marriages of affinity favorable to the part of the queen of England.
	Signed by Egidius, the rector, and 20 others. In the college of the university of Alcala, 21 Sept. 1530.
	Lat., pp. 2, modern copy.
22 Sept. R. O.	6630. H. EARL OF NORTHUMBERLAND to THOMAS ARRUNDELL.
	Warrant to take the sum of 100l. of his woodfalls in his manors of Somerset and Dorset, for the daughter and heir of Spilman, granted him by the King, reserving out of the said revenues the money owing to Wm. Buttry and Gryssillyng. Likyngfeld, 12 Sept. 22 Hen. VIII. Signed and sealed.
	P. 1. Add. Endd.
22 Sept. R. O. Rym. XIV. 400.	6631. THE DIVORCE.
	Notarial attestation of the determination of the theological faculty of Padua, dated 22 Sept. 1530.
	Lat., vellum. Add.: Episcopo Londinensi.
22 Sept. R. O.	6632. THE DIVORCE.
	Notarial attestation that on the 1st July preceding the university of Pavia unanimously resolved that a marriage with the relict of a brother witnout children was null, and that the Pope could not dispense with it. Two certificates of notaries attached, dated 22 Sept. 1530.
	Lat., vellum. Endd.
23 Sept. R. O. St. P. VII. 253.	6633. STOKESLEY to HENRY VIII.
	Your letters of the 16 Aug. were delivered to me at Venice on the 29th, when both Croke and the prothonotary De Casalis were at Padua. On my writing, Croke returned to me on Wednesday the 30th; but the Prothonotary, "because of the honoring of the commencement of his great friend," Stampa, could not come till Thursday, the 1st inst. Was thus forced to tarry so long in Venice, but came to Bologna on Saturday; where, as the two famous doctors, Beroo and Gozadinus, were absent, he remained till the 7th. Meanwhile, in consequence of slanderous rumors spread at Padua by a Spanish canon sent by the Emperor's ambassadors, "I renewed the first determination of the theologians there, in the presence of the notary of that faculty and of other credible witnesses." I also conferred with those doctors of law that were at home, and had promised to defend your cause; but only one, Dr. Hieronymus Prevatillus, had performed his writing. Dr. Ochi excused himself by business in pursuing the murderers of his brother. Dr. Ja. de Fastenninis, who was reader to Dr. Benet, said he had not finished his study of the question de indispensabilitate; though, on the other two parts, viz., de jure Dominico et insufficientia causæ, and in the question de integritate;, he had come to the same conclusion with others. Dr. Hieronymus has no doubt he will in the end agree on all points. All have promised to give in their opinions by the end of September to Sir Andrea de Casali or to Sir Gregory if he return thither, so that your counsel may have them at Rome by the beginning of next month, and your Grace by the end thereof. That of Hieronymo should be already at Rome, according to the arrangement Stokesley made at Bologna, with two authentic copies of the determinations of Bologna and Padua, and two others that I got at Venice to send to the ambassadors at Rome, though none of them has written to me a word since Guron's arrival there on the 20th Aug.
	These five doctors are the best in Italy, and they have no doubt of getting the rest of that university to subscribe. One of the body, De Pinu, has at our request shown us an opinion of his own. He and others promise to do their best, and there is no fear of our success, unless Gambara, the governor of Bologna, interfere; of whom I wrote at Whitsuntide, and who on Our Lady day last, viz., the day after I left Bologna, "made a shameful ruffle with some of the theologians for their determinations," as your Highness will see by a letter of Mr. Croke and one of Dr. Pallavicinus sent herewith. As to Venice and Padua, I trust you are by this time informed by my letter and Croke's and by your ambassadors there.
	There is little hope of getting a new "collegial determination" at Padua, but we have devised a way to obtain from the best part of them a confirmation of their first decision with a more perfect declaration of what the King desires. Has left this to Croke. At the first impetration thereof showed Leonicus and Symoneta the original of Bologna, desiring that there might be the same in substance, though the preface might be made more eloquent. Afterwards sent Croke to Padua with the original of Bologna for the same purpose; but he, trusting to Symoneta, never desired to see the form of their determination, till father Ambrosius brought it to him ready sealed and subscribed. When I saw it I sent Croke back to get some things reformed, but the Emperor's ambassador, hearing of it, caused father Ambrosius to be called before the Duke, and put him in fear to meddle.
	The three lawyers at Padua retained for the King had no instructions at Midsummer, but, being instructed by me in the end of July, promised to study therefor. They had not made up their minds when I left Venice. Petrus Paulus Perusius, the chief of them, has given me some hope that he will decide in our favor; the other two wait for him. Has left money with the ambassador at Venice for their rewards. The theologians of Bologna are so well affected to the King they will take no reward, "sed quod a Spiritu Sancto gratis acceperunt, gratis et libenter impertiunt." Services promised by friars Baptista Pallavicinus, Franciscus de Cremona, and Bartolomeus, a Grey Friar of Venice. Friar Pallavicinus declined money for his costs. Friar Sancte Pagnino was told by the bishop of Faventia, when he passed through Lyons to congratulate Francis in the Pope's name on the liberation of his children, that the Pope wished him to come to Rome;—perhaps for the same cause as he sent for friar Francis Georgius. Hears the Emperor and the French king are to meet soon after his descent into Flanders.
	In going over Mount Agabellet on Sunday, met the duke of Albany going with threescore horse to fetch his niece from Florence, to be married in France, as is pretended. Sends the original instruments of Bologna and Padua with the new ratification of the former. Would have sent them before but for the strict search of couriers made by the governor of Aste, who lately stopped 10,000 crowns sent from here to Sienna. This courier should be at Calais on Monday night. Will depart homewards myself tomorrow. Lyons, 23 Sept. Signed.
	Add. Endd.
23 Sept. Add. MS. 28,581, f. 140. B. M.	6634. CHARLES V. to MICER MIGUEL MAI, his Ambassador in Rome.
	* * *
	"There is no doubt that the English will try all means in the cause of the queen of England to carry out what they have begun. He is to pay the greatest attention to this subject, and continually to report what is going on. Rodrigo Niño will have informed him of what the bishop of London has done in Venice in order to obtain opinions in favor of the king of England. He has gone to Bologna, with the intention to procure there also similar opinions; and it is stated that he has, in fact, already obtained some.
	"That is not right. At least in a city which belongs to the Pope such things should not be allowed. Has ordered that representations be made to the Legate, and asks him to speak with the Pope on this subject. Rodrigo Niño writes that the Pope has given a very strong brief concerning these opinions. Does not believe it. If such a brief had been given, he (Mai) would have mentioned it. Whatever may be the case, he is to employ the greatest diligence in this affair. * * * Augsburg, 23 Sept. 1530.
	"P.S.—The religious question takes an unfavorable turn. Some persons are negotiating with the Lutherans, hoping to persuade them to abandon their errors. Does not believe that they will succeed." * * *
	Abstract by Mr. Bergenroth of a draft in Spanish, pp. 12, written by the Secretary Idiaquez.
Add. MS. 28,579, f. 395. B. M.	6635. EXTRACTS from LETTERS of MAI.
	* * *
	The Pope informed me as to the matter of England, he understood that the father of the lady, and the others, had repented of what they had offered to give in writing; and that their intention is to sue for justice, because he believes that these men are unsteady (que estos blandearan), and that the Emperor [entertains] them with good words, as he always does. * * *
	ii. From a letter of Mai's secretary.
	The brief has been obtained to prevent the King marrying pendente lite. It has been affixed in the chancery of St. Peter's and secretly in St. Petronius, and has been sent to Madame for publication in the Low Countries.
	A copy has been sent to the Queen and to the ambassador of (in ?) England, who have been directed to send hither an information in case process have to be made. Meanwhile these lawyers here are studying what they have sent from thence. * * *
	Sp., pp. 8, modern copy from Simancas.
24 Sept. R. O. Rym. XIV. 397.	6636. THE DIVORCE.
	Opinion of the university of Ferrara against the legality of the marriage with a deceased brother's wife. Ferrara, 24 Sept. 1530, 7 Clement VII.
	Lat., vellum, copy. Endd. by Croke.
25 Sept. R. O. St. P. VII. 259.	6637. STOKESLEY to HENRY VIII.
	Alexander, the courier, on his journey to Rome, met here tonight with Francis Piemont going to England. The latter brought me a letter from Benet, who says he wrote to me on the 22nd, enclosing a letter from you. I have not received them. Benet speaks of the insufficiency of the transumpts that I sent him from Venice, for lack of ordinary power in the bishop of Loode, who put his seal to them. But there was no ordinary that durst meddle with your cause; therefore at Bologna I prepared two new [transumpts ?] to be sent to Rome under the vicar of Bologna's seal, before Gambara made this ruffling with divines and lawyers; which to reform, Sir Gregory, on my writing to him from Regia, now comes down with a man-date from the Pope himself. His Holiness is discontented with the governor on account of it. When I was last at Bologna, Gambara inquired of Sir Andrea de Casalis about all my motions, and reported them to the Emperor. Doubts not Sir Andrea has reported to the King all that he has written to Stokesley of the Pope's study and opinion as to the prohibition being divine, of the invalidity of the two decretals, Cum olim and Inter divinas (fn. 2), of the lack of the books of Wiclef, and of the counsels of Decius and Picolominus. Francis Georgius has not recovered of his sickness, and has lost one eye, and is likely to lose the other. Sir Andrea no longer suspects him, as the Pope, he thinks, has been brought by him to agree to that first point. To the second, De Indispensabilitate, he believes they will never assent; and to the third, De Insufficientia causæ in Bulla sive Brevi expressæ, they will have few contradictors.
	The duke of Bourbon's son is to marry one of the French king's daughters, and be restored to this country of the Bourbonese. St. Germain's in Bourbonese, 25 Sept. Signed.
	Hopes to be at Calais in three weeks.
	Add. Sealed. Endd. by Wyat.
27 Sept. R. O. Herbert, p. 144.	6638. CLEMENT VII. to the ENGLISH NOBILITY.
	Has received their letter of 13 July. Acknowledges the merits of the King as stated by them. So far from denying the King's justice, has been thought too partial to him. When the cause was first laid before him three years ago, submitted the determination of it to Wolsey and Campeggio; but as the Queen suspected them of partiality and appealed to Rome, could not refuse her request. No proctor has as yet appeared on the King's behalf, and therefore any delay in the determination of the cause should not be ascribed to the Pope. Besides, the King's ambassadors at Bologna solicited this delay, and therefore their complaints are groundless. Criticises their remarks about the universities, and justifies the papal proceedings in respect of the marriage. Whatever the Pope's obligations to the King, must proceed according to justice. As to the deluge of calamities apprehended by them, thinks that it would be much greater if he neglected his duty, and departed from the rules of justice. As to their menace that unless their request is granted, they will be left to take the care of themselves into their own hands, and seek the remedy elsewhere, protests that this is a resolution unworthy of them, and is not sanctioned by the King. Has always shown the greatest desire to comply with the King's requests, when it could be done consistently with justice. Rome, 27 Sept. 1530.
	Lat., vellum. Sealed. Add.: Venerabilibus fratribus, archiepiscopis et episcopis, ac dilectis filiis, abbatibus, nobilibusque viris, ducibus, marchionibus, comitibus, baronibus, militibus, ac doctoribus parlamenti regni Angliæ.
28 Sept. Vit. B. XIII. 115. B. M.	6639. [CROKE to STOKESLEY.]
	Tarried at Ferrara upon the ... of Pallavicinus, from 18 to 24 Sept. As he did not come, tried to obtain the seal of the college. Had spoken at first to Francis de Marona, but could obtain nothing from him [till the] 23rd. He said he could do nothing till the return of the doctor Hierome; that he was not of our opinion, and would not follow Stokesley's form, but devised one himself: to [which] Croke added some things "by entreance of him," and was fain to give [him] ... crowns. He then said it could no[t be done] but with licence of the vicar-general of cardinal Salviatis (fn. 3) ... bishop of Ferrara and chancellor of the university. Accordingly gave the vicar money, and the college and all other doctors of divinity in Ferrara were assembled, and the instrument published and made; which Croke sends to the King. Pallavicinus has not come yet. Tarries here for the se ... the lawyers, who are more than 30. Tr[usts] to obtain them by Cœlius, whom Croke has marvellously converted to his old pro ... the opinion that card. Campegius, by Florianus and other, had ... in." All Ferrara was full of [Croke's] coming before he came, and therefore the lawyers ask 200 cr. for their determination, seal and counsel. Has more than half a promise from ... to write for us, unless his feeble health prevent him. * * * After Cranmer and Croke had obtained leave from the governor to bid Gozadinus assemble the college and determine, "and if he could not use no reverent words of the Pope's power, but to detriment of the King's cause, that he should cause the college in any wise to leave out such words," was assured by Gozadinus that the governor was very faithful to the King, and exhorted him to promote the cause. Gozadinus told him that in eight days he would assemble the college, and he therefore went to Hierom and Sir Andrew. The latter, however, had been told by Mr. Cranmer, and "full gently gat him out of town." Hierom was not glad of the tidings, and excused Sir Andrew's departure, a wench having fallen sick of the sickness in his house; but a few days before they both told him that their wives had gone into the country for the same reason; but when he wished to leave the house, they restrained him, and said it was not so. Friar Vincentius had delivered to Cœlius at Ferrara, before Croke's coming, all the books which Croke had given him,—a dangerous thing, as Cœlius was somewhat alienated. Expostulated with the friar, who asked if he thought Gregory or Andrew wished to promote this cause, saying he knew many things, but could not speak of them. He was vexed with Gregory for having sent him to friar Fanto, our utter enemy, which Gregory knew well enough.
	Hopes Stokesley has not causelessly mistrusted him (Croke), and trusted others, to the King's hindrance. "I would not have thought that by me these words could have come out of your mouth, videte ut quam possitis maxime causam promoveatis, ne hic nebulo habeat quod conqueratur apud regem." Will so order himself that Stokesley will have no cause to think he has said well. Hopes by his good demeanor to make him sorry for his suspicions and sinister judgments. Lacks money, and does not know where to get any. Stokesley's horse is worse every day. Has kept him a month, and had a smith to see him daily. [Would] have sold him, but the smith nor no man else [would give] ... ducats for him. Asks him to aid him, for [he has] great need as well of the said 20 ducats as of [more]. Ferrara, 28 Se[pt.]
	Gave 5 cr. amongst the friars at Bologna.
	Hol., draft, pp. 2, mutilated.
28 Sept. Vesp. C. VII. 57 b. B. M.	6640. ENGLISH MERCHANTS IN SPAIN.
	Confirmation by Charles V. of the patent of Henry VIII. to the English merchants in Andaluzia, dated Westm., 1 Sept. 22 Hen. VIII. Valladolid, 28 Sept. 1530.
	English translation, pp. 3.
29 Sept. R. O. Records of the Reformation, I. 438.	6641. CROKE to HENRY VIII.
	Obtained the determination of Ferrara in good and sure form, and by means of Cœlius Calchagninus attempted the college of lawyers, 72 in number. Would have had that night a counsel for the King, sealed and signed by all, and a determination under the seal of the college, if he could have laid down 150 cr. Not having this sum, tried to make them take a less price, and feigned the case to be his own. Meantime the notary asked his servant in his name for the instrument to put thereto his legality. On returning home, showed his displeasure at this to the notary's servant, who said that if it had not been given up, it would have been forcibly taken away. Sent afterwards to the notary, who asked pardon, as he had done it by orders of the Duke's factor, who bade him go with soldiers and take it by force if Croke would not give it up. Went to the factor, who said the friars themselves showed him of this matter, naming Vincentius Placentinus, a Black friar. This friar showed Croke divers books of the King, which he said were given to him by the bishop of London; but Croke now has discovered that Sir Gregory gave him the book, and sent him round Italy, and he is not likely to have done the King any good. When called to this counsel, he said that his chapter had prohibited speaking of the Pope's power. Pallavicinus, however, made him confess that if it had been so, as it was not, it could not have restrained his good will. He hinted at the danger of speaking of the Pope's power, so that he almost marred everything, and, when the act of Bologna was alleged, said that there were very few there, and those scant learned. Notwithstanding, in Croke's presence, he determined upon the instrument of which the copy is enclosed, sealed by the vicar-general, who is deputy to the card. De Salviatis, chancellor of the university.
	Paid the vicar and college for their assemblance. The factor commanded the friars to say that they did not consent to the instrument, and some of them bade the notary return it. Could not get the factor to order the notary to deliver the instrument to him, although he had paid for it. Besides, he had so handled the doctors of law, that although Croke offered 100 cr. instead of from 20 to 60, as before, they answered that they would give no counsel but by consent of both parties, the King and the Queen. Had never mentioned the name of either. Florianus, Campeggio's secretary, resides in Ferrara, never ceases to slander the King's cause, and is great with the factor. Is ashamed of the false dealing of the Italians. Finds great difficulty in consequence of the many friars opposed to the King, who know his arguments, and of the many copies of the King's book and others in his favor.
	Encloses a letter from Thomas Omnibonus, who does not sleep. Ferrara, 29 Sept.
	ii. Copy of the determination of the university of Ferrara, 24 Sept. 1530.
	Pp. 3, in Croke's hand. Endd. by Croke: "The copy of Mr. Crokes lettres, written from Ferrare and Venice unto the Kinges highnes. The copy of the determinatio theologorum Ferrariensium." Endd. by Wriothesley: "The copy of Mr. Crookes letters to the Kinges majesty from Venice and Ferrarie. The copy of a determination theologorum Ferrariensium quod frater relictam fratris sui non potest ducere et quod episcopus Romanus in hoc casu non habet ullam auctoritatem dispensandi."
Vit. B. XIII. 119. B. M.	2. Draft of the above letter.
	Hol., pp. 2.
R. O.	6642. THOMAS OMNIBONUS, Prior of the Convent of SS. John and Paul, Venice, to [HENRY VIII.]
	Promised in previous letters to undertake his cause. Has obtained 32 subscriptions. On the 3rd inst., the Imperial ambassador came to him and told him that it was not the part of a religious man to take up a dangerous and scandalous matter, and showed that he knew the whole of Omnibonus' letter to the King. He said that it would be better for Omnibonus to agree with the canonists and theologians, whose opinions were opposite to his; spoke of the wars which a divorce would create, the Queen's blameless life, and the marriage of K. Emmanuel; told him that the matter was committed to six cardinals by the Pope, who would never displease the Emperor, and advised him to take care of his own safety and honor. Replied that he was consulted on a matrimonial case by an Englishman, whom he took to be a German, and gave him an opinion, knowing nothing about the King or Queen,—which, as a professor of theology, he was bound to do; had not changed his opinion, but was not so addicted to it that he would not change it in deference to Scripture; if the Queen was holy, she would prefer the safety of her soul to earthly gain; had taken enough care for his own safety, if he spoke the truth.
	The general of their Order has forbidden them to speak of the Pope's authority. Paul de Casalis tells him that he (the general) has sent a copy of his writings to the Pope, and that the Imperial ambassador wishes the Pope to cite him. Asks the King's assistance, to deliver him from these straits.
	Hol., Lat., pp. 2.
29 Sept. Vit. B. XIII. 118. B. M.	6643. [CROKE] to CRANMER.
	Had obtained the dete[rmination] of the college of divines at Ferrara, and was [promised] to have that of the lawyers, but had no money to [pay] what they asked. Tells him how the factor took away the instrument from him, and the saying of the Black Friar about Gregory de Cassalis, who, he says, gives one order publicly, and another privately. "Notwithstanding this Friar said in ... when the determination of Bologna was showed that h[e thinketh] that there were few learned men in the college, and he wol ... but said os suum was clausum, and that periculosa [quæstio] ista de potestate pontificis; by the which words if Fran[ciscus de] Cremona had not been, whom Sir Gregory had mou[ed] ... for the King, and Sir Andrew also. But for all that ... and made him the King's surely, first by persuasion, by r[eason] afterward by reward. But I cannot tell how these m[atters] were handled, but the governor knew of [my] coming ... or I came, and had given commandment to the prior o[f the Black] Friars if there were any determination made, not den[ying that] he knew more. And farther, when I had the instrum[ent, he bade the] notary to get it out of my hand by some craft, [and if] I would not deliver it to take some of the soldiers bei[ng] ... and to take it from me by strength, he had also the p ... that they did not consent to the same, and forbade the d[octors of] law to determine. And when I spake to him to comman[d the] notary to deliver the instrument, and to suffer ... lawyers to be at liberty, he made me answer that [he would] nother let me ne proferre the cause, nor he would ... te notary to deliver the instrument, but said, Nolo [me impachiare]. And this is the good that cometh to the King [of such friars]. And Sir Andrew, as soon as ye were gone, got hy[m away] because he would solicit no man in the King's [cause]." 29 Sept.
	The Prothonotary has done no good. The chief doctors of Padua, as Parrisius and Curtius, now will not counsel under 100 angelots. Cranmer will see by the letter that Parrisius favors our cause, and that the let comes from the Prothonotary alone.
	Draft, hol., pp. 2, mutilated.
29 Sept. Vit. B. XIII. 116. B. M.	6644. [CROKE to STOKESLEY.]
	[Supposes] Cranmer has told him what pranks were played on him (Stokesley) at Bologna, and that he would not have had a determination that would have availed the King, unless Croke had spoken to the gov[ernor]. Gives an account of his interview with Gozadinus and Sir Andrew's absence, as in the letter to Stokesley, 28 Sept. On 17 Sept., Pallavicinus was [here] and then departed to Novellaria, promising Croke to [be at] Ferrara on Tuesday next. Went to Ferrara on S ... of Sept., and stayed till Saturday follo[wing, but did not] hear of Pallavicinus. Franciscus de Cre[mona] * * * determination of Ferrara under these words devised ... him. At this determination there were five of the college and four others, one being Vicentius Placentinus to whom Stokesley took certain books, as Consilium Hicronymi, Chrysostomi de Cassalis (fn. 4) and Basil's epistles, with other things, to go about Italy and procure friends; and who says that he caused Rhomanus to translate Basil's epistle to Stokesley, and is a little learned in Greek. He went to the factor, said that he did not consent to the deed, and caused him to summon the others, and charge them to deny that it was their deed. Being told that the instrument was in Croke's possession, and passed publicly before the Chancellor and witnesses, the factor sent the notary in Croke's name to his servant during his absence, to say that Croke ordered him to deliver it to him, to get the legality of the notary. Was displeased, and sent for it again; but the notary said the factor had ordered him to retain it, and if it had not been given him, he had orders to take soldiers, and get it by force. Went today to Cœlius, who had obtained a promise from the college of lawyers, 62 in number, that if Croke would deposit 150 cr. they would give their determination and make a substantial counsel in the King's cause. Was told by him that the factor had commanded them to say that they would give no counsel but with the consent of the King, the Queen, and the Emperor. Has asked the factor to return the instrument, but he denies everything, saying "Non volo me impachiare." This is the good that [comes of] Stokesley trusting such friars as these. Cœ[lius says] that Florianus, Campegius' secretary, has also set [himself to] hurt and hinder the matter all that he can. This friar confessed that he was sent to Friar F... [by Sir] Gregory, who is the King's utter enemy. Pallavicinus says that he now came from Mantua, the 29th ... month. Doubts sore of a[ll that be]long to Cassalis. The Black Friar Vicentius asked him if he thought Gregory wished this matter to proceed, and stopped saying he knew much but ... His horse is past recovery, and now will not stir a foot. [No one] here will give a ducat for him. Ferrara, 29 [Sept.]
	After writing this, Augustin de Philibertis was sent hither by the Prothonotary, and lodged with Vincent, his kins[man] Dominico ... The friar Augustin had lett[ers and] divers books for Croke and others in Ferrara; but when Croke went to him, he said he had none, having delivered them to Francis [de] Cremona; but he also had nothing but a letter of credence from the Prothonotary for Augustine. Augustine "told him that ... the instrument of Ferrare came from Venice by the Emperor's ambass[ador, and] that the said ambassador, peradventure, had written to the factor ... of Ferrara of such things as had been done in Venice ... and bade him beware lest any such thing were practised ... But the governor told me that the friars them self procur[ed an order] for the let of the instrument. Alas, my Lord, that he w ... Cassalis with anything that I would and practised in ... cause." He has made a consultation in the King's causes, and for fear of let by the resort of any of our persons, "had also advised the Prothonotary to come in any of the said places." As for books, he said the Prothonotary had only delivered him the bare case, with no money, nor anything else. He said that Curta will not counsel under 100 angelotts. He has been to persuade Hanibal and friar Thomas to say that what they had done was by his suit, and neither Croke's nor Stokesley's. This is their goodness touching the King's causes. It does not become him to rehearse the railing of him and his servants against Stkoesley, and their boast that they sent him back his 10 cr. Vincent was before Whitsuntide sent about by Sir Gregory, from whom he had these books, one of which Croke now has, a book lacking the beginning and end, and entitled in Stokesley's hand, Contra Wykefflystas Rationes Nicolai. These two were written by Perceval, Mr. Fox's servant. He had also written in the hands of Nicholas, Sir Gregory's servant, and of the Prothonotary's servant, Basil's epistle, in Stokesley's translation, Chrysostom's reasons against objections to his work, a collection of authorities for our part, St. Gregory's epistle, "Raphael werke," and almost all Crucinus' counsel, marked Consilium fratris Thomæ Omniboni cum sex subscriptionibus, which no one had from Croke, except Stokesley and Cranmer, and which Hierom Previdellus, by Stokesley's order, saw. Matters at Padua are all marred. If Stokesley will not believe him, he will believe the copy of Parrisius' letter sent to Hannibal, who is going to Rome, and will be one of the Rota. Hannibal has written as Stokesley wished. The letter will show what the Prothonotary has done at Padua. The vicar of the bishop of Verona has gone to ... Has no money. Has delivered [to fri]ar Thomaso 25 cr., and to friar Ambrose as many as Stokesley ordered * * *
	Hol., draft, pp. 4, mutilated.
29 Sept. R. O.	6645. IPSWICH COLLEGE.
	Account of William Capon, S.T.P., late dean, of moneys received and expended by him from Michaelmas 21 to 22 Hen. VIII.
	Lat., pp. 9.
29 Sept. R. O.	6646. The KING'S HOUSEHOLD.
	"Desperate tales" (tallies) which could not be levied for the King's household on the town of Warwick, the manors of Woodstock and Evington, Leic. Mich. 22 Hen. VIII.
	P. 1, mutilated.
29 Sept. R. O.	6647. THOMAS FENYS LORD DACRE.
	Value of all his manors and possessions, Mich. 22 Hen. VIII., in Norfolk, Suffolk, Essex, Sussex, Kent, &c.
	ii. Jointure of Ann his wife.
	iii. Names and value of manors, &c., appointed for his last will. Ditto, for his two younger sons, John and Thomas Fenys.
	iv. Annuities.
	v. Legacies and funeral charges.
	Pp. 9.
29 Sept. R. O.	6648. The MINT.
	"Answer and account of Robert Amades, Ralph Rowlet, and Martin Bowes to the demands of lord Mountjoy for the office of the Mint," from Mich. 18 to Mich. 22 Hen. VIII. Lord Mountjoy had claimed of them the coinage of gold and silver in those four years as amounting to 2,965l. 12s. 8¼d.
	A long roll of paper.
Lansd. MS. 4, f. 209. B. M.	6649. COINAGE.
	"A dockett of the hole coynage of gold and sylver within ... from the feast of St. Mychell tharchangell when the newe ... in the 18th yere of the reigne of the King abovesaid ... in the 22nd yere of the same King, that is to saye, by the space [of four] yeres, with the receyts of money for the same coynage as hereafter ens[ueth]."
	Coined in the said 4 years, 7,016lb. 4 oz. 1 dwt. Troy of crowne gold, at 19d. the lb., 555l. 9s. 2¼d.; 115,688 lb. 3½ oz. Troy of silver, at 5d. the lb., 2,410l. 3s. 6d. Total, 2,965l. 12s. 8¼d.; whereof Robt. Amadas, Rauffe Rowlet, and Martyne Bowes, deputies to lord Mountjoye, demand for coals, 348l. 7s. ; for melting gold sysell, 59l. 11s. 8d.; blanching gold, at 20s. the cwt., 73l. 19s. To the coiners of gold,½ dwt. every journey, 64l. 14s. Melting silver sysell, at 4d. a lb., 434l. 16s. 8d. Blanching silver, 6s. 8d. the cwt., 338l. 6s. To the coiners,¾ oz. every cwt. brocage, 130l. 15s. Coining irons and melting pots, 234l. 14s. 4d. Eger gold, 30l. Making assayes and charges at the Star Chamber, 8l. 16s. 8d. Perfect fine silver for assays, 6l. 18s. Aquafortis, 8l. 14s. 4d. Wages of Clunde and two other men, 23l. 16s. 8d. Books, pen, ink, and paper, 36s. 4d. Lead, 7l. 9s. 6d. Coppells, 15l. 15s. New assay balances and mending balances, 13s. 2d. Assay glasses, 4l. 13s. 4d. Argyll, 36l. 2s. Burras, sulphur, and mercury, 10l. 15s. 2d. Ric. Hugden and others, for helping to melt, 15l. Reward to them that took pain by night, 6s. 8d. To the porter, 6s. Charges of the jury that was pannelled, 9l. 6s. 8d. The priest's duty, 52s. 4d. The clerk's wages, 16s. Holy bread, 2s. 4d. Charges of the procession in Gang week, 19s. On St. Nicholas' night, 3s. New tubs, and mending tubs, 38s. 8d. Shovels, baskets, and trays, 6l. 4s. New pans, irons, locks, tongs, shears, and ingots, 3l. 15s. 6d. Copper for alloy, 10s. Copper pans and furnaces, 3l. 5s. 4d. Testys blowing, ashes blowing, fining of the sweep, and cementing, 5l. 3s. 8d. Tallow candles, 22l. 7s. Oil for ingots, 5l. 5s. Sponges for blanching, 2l. 18s. 6d. Making small pots, 14l. Laborers beating at the stock, 5s. Meat and drinks, 32l. 8s. Canvas to hang before the coiners' windows, 24s. 8d. Brick, lime, and mason's work, 16s. 4d. Total, 2,168l. 5s. 2d.
	They also demand for their pains the first four years, at 100 mks. a year, 266l. 13s. 4d. Allowance for the waste of the first melting of groats into small ingots, beside the 4d. of every lb. weight of silver had of the merchant, 180l. Money given to lord Mountjoy for the said space of eight years, 250l. Their losses in the last four years by receiving counterfeit groats, of tin, lead, copper, and silvered iron (they have a peck of such iron plates to show), 80l. Greynes had at divers meltings, 80l. Total demands, 4,212l. 8s.
	Received, 3,428l. 0s. 10¼d.; so that lord Mountjoy owes his deputies 784l. 7s. 1¾d.
	Pp. 4.
29 Sept. R. O.	6650. [PRIORY OF PRÉ.
	Computus of Th. Maidwell, from Mich. 21 Hen. VIII. to Mich. following.
	ii. Computus of Th. Symonds for the priory of Reddbourne.
	iii. Of Th. Maidwell for Pré, from Mich. 20 Hen. VIII. to the Mich. following.
	Pp. 9.
29 Sept. R. O.	6651. CARDINAL'S COLLEGE, OXFORD.
	Arrears due to the monastic possessions appropriated to Wolsey's college, for the year ended Mich. 22 Hen. VIII.
	Pp. 17. Endd.
30 Sept. R. O.	6652. PROPHECIES.
	Examination of William Harlokke, 30 Sept. 22 Hen. VIII., in the Tower of London, before Sir Edmund Walsingham and Sir John Daunce.
	Acknowledges his former confession to be true. Had lived with Dr. Austyn, "a doctor of physic and astronomer," who died at Colchester in 13 Hen. VIII. Had of him "a kalendre of profysye wherein there were pictures of kings and lords armes," which he showed to one Byrte of White Staunton, Somst. Part of its contents Byrte interpreted as deponent has already explained. He also said by the pictures in the same there should be a great battle of priests, but did not say at what time. Showed the kalendar to Byrte in Easter week was twelvemonth, when he said there should be, three years following the year 1530, much trouble and business, but when, he could not tell. It was reported in Somersetshire that he had a kalendar of prophecy, and Sir Nich. Wadham threatened to punish him if he used it any more; on which he promised to burn it, but did not. Showed it a year ago to Richard Loweth, a goldsmith at Taunton, telling him that part was of the dreadful dragon; when the latter said his book showed the same, and that the dragon should land with the bare-legged hens. Loweth explained the dreadful dragon to be the earl of Desmond, and the lion gentle, the king of Scots. He said that at Sandyngford haven should land a courteous knight and pitch his banner in a stone on the right hand, when a blue boar should give him battle till they do sweat and foam. He also showed him many prophecies written in Welsh in a black book.
	One John Barbour, dwelling in Norwich beside the Mayden Hedde, has a book of prophecies, which he read to this deponent in presence of Sir William, chaplain to Mr. Halse, Roger Coper, and one Robert, a worsted weaver, who married a widow in Norwich. On deponent saying afterwards to Sir William that it was a marvellous book, the latter said he could tell him of one that surpassed it, but he must keep it secret. "And thanne the said Sir William said, I have redde in a boke of profycie of Mr. Hals that alle profycyes that ben past I have found them true, and that by that boke, for my hedd, the kinges Grace shuld not [leve] (fn. 5) obteigne above thre yere. These words were spoken two years past come All Saints' day; and after the said Sir William had accusyd thys deponent for dyggynge for money, then thys deponent accusyd the said Sir William of hys profycyinge unto Henry Fuller, and one Cranke, then beinge shryfes of Norwiche; and the same shrefes herynge the mater, askyd the said Sir William, why dyd ye speke suche wordes? Then the said Sir William denyed not the wordes, but that he spake them to thys deponent to th'entent to know whether he had any bokes of profycie or not. And thene the said Henry Fuller said, Thys ys but a tryffyllinge mater to come before the Kinge."
	"Item, this deponent saith that [one Thomas Larke, of Myldenale in Suffolk, came to the Tabberd in Suthwerke to Sir William Larke (fn. 6) ], Richard Jones and one Lloid, of Appysham in Devonshyre, shewyd them that the Whytte Lyon in the yere of our Lorde God M^lDXXXJ. shuld kylle a kinge in Englond, whiche said Sir William Larke supposyd to be the kinge of Denmarke. And more the seyd deponent cannot call to his remembrance."
	Pp. 4.
30 Sept. MS. Bibl. Nat. 3019, f. 1.	6653. HENRY VIII. to MONTMORENCY.
	In behalf of Thos. Pourpoint, merchant of London, in his long suit for compensation for eighteen balls of pepper taken from him in the port of Guernsey by pirates of St. Malo, nine years ago. He is now too ill to prosecute his claims himself. Hampton Court, 30 Sept. 1530.
	Fr., from a transcript.
Sept/GRANTS.	6654. GRANTS in SEPTEMBER 1530.
	1. Lieence to the King's subjects trading in Spain and Andelazia (Andalusia), who desire to associate for mutual relief and redress of grievances in those parts, and for the support of a chapel newly built at "Saynt Lucars de Barowmeda," to the honor of God and St. George the Martyr (as reported by Wm. Pepwell and others), to assemble once a year, or oftener if need be, when a competent number of them shall be in those parts, within the cities of Cyvyle and Cales (Seville and Cadiz), or the town of St. Lucars de Barowmede, or "Seynte Mary Porte," and by the advice and consent of the merchants dwelling in London, and of two merchants of Bristowe (Bristol), and two of Southampton frequenting those parts, elect a councillor or councillors from among themselves, removable at their pleasure, and with such remuneration as they shall think necessary. And the said councillor or councillors and fellowship may elect 12 ancient and expert persons to be their assistants; the said councillor and assistants to have full power to levy such imposts as shall be thought necessary, and to make ordinances for their welfare, &c. Ampthill, 20 Aug. 22 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 1 Sept.—P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 2.
	2. Ric. Ratclyff, clk. Presentation to the parish church of Northlufnam, Rutland, Linc. dioc., void by the promotion of John Stokysley, clk., to the bishopric of London. Hampton Court, 24 Sept. 22 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 2 Sept. (sic.)—P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 22.
	17. Owen Falou, of Aryn, in Ireland, alias of London, alias of Westminster, clk., alias chaplain. Pardon for offences against the currency, and for his escape from prison in the Tower of London. Ampthill, 2 Sept. 22 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 17 Sept.—P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 17.
	20. Anthony Weldon. Presentation to the free chapel of Dorchester, Dorset, vice John Holden, deceased. Ampthill, 1 Sept. 22 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 20 Sept.—P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 18.
	20. Sir Edward Seymour, squire of the Body. Annuity of 50 marks. Waltham, 12 Sept. 22 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 20 Sept.—P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 18.
	20. Antony Anthony, one of the grooms of the Chamber. Licence to export 200 tuns of beer. Hertford Castle, 4 Sept. 22 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 20 Sept.—P.S.
	22. Ric. Harpham, clk. Presentation to the parish church of Springthorp, Linc. dioc., void by death. Waltham, 20 Sept. 22 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 22 Sept.—P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 18.
	23. John Lysen. To be one of the King's arras makers, with 6d. a day; granted by patent 12 Jan. 20 Hen. VIII. to Thomas Garton, page of the Wardrobe of Beds. Waltham, 18 Sept. 22 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 23 Sept.—P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 5.
	27. John Knyght, gentleman usher of the Chamber. To be receiver of the possessions of Sir Wm. Compton, deceased, in cos. Devon, Wilts, Dorset, Somers., Glouc., Worc., Staff., Derby, Leic., Warw., Northt., Oxon, Bucks, Beds, Kent, Essex, Midd., Norf., and York, or elsewhere in England, during the minority of Peter Compton, s. and h. of the said Wm., with 30l. a year. Hampton Court, 24 Sept. 22 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 27 Sept.—P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 18.
	27. Wm. Brown. To be bailiff of the manors of Brokborowe, Regemount, Crowley, Northwod, Wandon, Wekyngton, Walton, Bowbrykhyll, Bragnam, and Paddyngton. Beds., Bucks, and Northt., with 53s. 4d. a year. Hampton Court, 24 Sept. 22 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 27 Sept.—P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 18.
	28. Cuthbert Hardcastell, chaplain. Presentation to the parish church of Stansted, Norw. dioc., void by death. Hampton Court, 23 Sept. 22 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 28 Sept.—P.S.
	28. Winchester College, Oxford. Inspeximus and confirmation to the warden and scholars of patent 26 July 8 Ric. II., being a mortmain licence to the said college. Chelsea, 28 Sept.—Pat. 22 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 22.
	30. Sir Ric. Sacheverell, Roger Radclyf, John Chamber, dean of St. Stephen's college in Westminster Palace, and Roger Lupton, provost of Eton College, clks. Presentation to the next vacant canonry and prebend in the collegiate chapel of St. Stephen, in Westminster Palace. Waltham, 17 Sept. 22 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 30 Sept.—P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 18.