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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1875.

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'Henry VIII: September 1530, 1-15', in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530, ed. J S Brewer( London, 1875), British History Online https://prod.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol4/pp2977-2981 [accessed 16 November 2024].

September 1530



Vesp. C. VII. 54. B. M.	6601. ENGLISH MERCHANTS TRADING IN SPAIN.
	A fragment with the following heading:—
	"This following is the copy, well and truly drawn out, of a privilege granted by the most excellent prince, the king of England, to the English nation, written in parchment, and sealed with a silver seal and with strings of thread of gold and silk of sundry colours, which was translated into the Castilian tongue out of the English wherein it was written, as by the said Spanish translation appeareth, the tenor whereof is that that followeth."
R. O.	2. Two attested copies of the above commission. See GRANTS, 1 Sept.
1 Sept. R. O.	6602. THE DIVORCE.
	A notarial attestation, apparently of certain transumpts of papal instruments, the first words of which are quoted, required by the king of England. Dated 1 Sept. 1530. Signed: Hie. Auditor.
	Badly mutilated. Seal attached.
2 Sept. MS. Bibl. Nat. 3070, f. 1.	6603. HENRY VIII. to MONTMORENCY.
	Has heard from Sir Francis Bryan, on his return, as also from the bishop of Bayonne, the zeal he has shown in advancing the King's great cause. Thanks him for his reception of Bryan, and his services in promoting a good understanding between the two Kings. "Amptonhyll," 2 Sept. 1530.
	Fr., from a transcript.
2 Sept. R. O.	6604. JOHN CAVALCANT.
	Warrant to the Treasurer of the Chamber to deliver to John Cavalcant and Peter Fraunces de Bardi 39 obligations by which they are bound to pay to the King 11,250l. at various terms from 20 Jan. 1524 to 2 Sept. 1530, in return for a single bond of the city of Florence to pay the same sum by yearly instalments of 450l. commencing at Christmas 1531.
	Draft.
3 Sept. R. O.	6605. PAPAL REGISTERS.
	Notarial attestation at the request of Edward Carne, proctor for the king of England, of two bulls among the papal registers, the one beginning with the words Cum olim, and the other with the words Inter divinas. Rome, 3 Sept. 1530, 7 Clement VII. Signed by the bishop of Worcester as Auditor.
	Seal attached; mutilated.
Add. MS. 4622, f. 123. B. M.	2. Modern copy of the preceding.
4 Sept. Add. MS. 28,581, f. 76. B. M.	6606. MAI to CHARLES V.
	Wrote to the Emperor on the 30th, that, according to letters from France, the duke of Albany was coming to Rome to arrange with the Pope about the property of his niece, whom perhaps Albany will marry to his son. He holds a commission, however, to treat of the marriage, not for him, but for the duke of Orleans; for so Albany himself has confessed in great secresy. The English ambassadors here have complained much of his coming, believing it may damage their cause; and cardinal De Tarbe has sent despatches to France on this account: so that the Pope thinks he will not come. Mai, however, believes he will, because the king of France will be glad to have him here in case anything be done about a Council ("a causa de lo que puede ser del Concilio"). And the Pope will be glad of it, "por ponernos en celos deste matrimonio, porque aunque sea hombre de bien y buen amigo de V.M., siempre le veo holgar destos contrapesos, y nunca ha sido posible poder le bien descarnar de Francia ni de Ynglaterra."
	Sp., pp. 15, modern copy from Simancas. In the original the passage quoted is in cipher.
7 Sept. Vit. B. XIII. 107. B. M. Records of the Reformation, I. 587.	6607. [CROKE to HENRY VIII.]
	The bishop of London [sent,] by the hands of the Prothonotary, to the ambassador at Rome, on 31 Aug., a transumpt of the determinations of Pad[ua] and Bologna, which by Stokesley and Croke "were vi[iij. days] before the coming of your most honorable letters exemplified [to the] same intent sub fide notariorum et sigillo episcopi Laudensis." [To]day delivered to my lord of Lo[ndon] seventy-eight counsels and subscriptions, being all he had, besides [those nine] that the King had with the counsel of father Francis, the thirty that were burned at Vincence, and the authors of the instrument of P[adua]. Into which instrument now to g[et contracto put in,] he thinks almost impossible, as Stokesley has it with him. Will do the best he can. It was not this instrument which had debere, but a conclusion which Simonetus caused eighteen do[ctors of] divinity at Padua, not of the college, to sub[scribe]. The conclusion is amended, and these words, I[mmo non posse], added. Will order the commission directed to him so that no friar shall use it, except in case of very need, and for great advancement of the King's cause. Did not cause father Francis to write to the King against Cassalis. Never saw the contents of the letter, which was sent to him sealed. The acts of father Francis and his friends deserve much thanks, whatever has been written from Rome by his adversaries.
	Cannot find Innocentius' compilation in any library at Venice. Hears that they are at Bonony; but the book has been conveyed out of the library of the Servites by the prior, who is (as all fools) the King's adversary. Hopes to obtain a sight of it by Hierom Prævidellus (fn. 1) and Sir Andrew Cassalis. Hopes the King "will see the Prothonotary an[d] m ... what for fear of advices that they have had ou[t of] England, what for shame by the earnest handling of my lord of London, I am informed that they buckle themselves to do somewhat." If they persevere, will as gladly report their good deeds, as he had good cause to report their bad. Assures the King of his constancy and di[ligence], and begs for money, both for diets and retainance of men; the lack whereof has incredibly hindered him. Has been miserably served of money. Has laid out 600 cr., and divers times sent his account to Tuke, who ever of new demands his account of him, and considers the money he has spent on the cause still in his hands, and that, therefore, he is more fully contented of his diets.
	If my lord of London and Harwel had not holpen him, must have [be]ne fain to beg. Bononye, 7 Sept.
	Copy, hol., pp. 4, mutilated.
Vit. B. XIII. 108 b. B. M. Records of the Reformation, I. 590.	2. Draft of the same letter, slightly differing from the previous one. Several mutilations have been supplied from it. In this draft Croke states that the bishop of London has delivered to the Prothonotary 800 cr. for the preferment of the King's cause, and that he has this morning given Croke 300 cr.; "yet, considering th[e] money that I have laid out in your said ... causes, and the days passed, I have ... by 200 ... s account." Bonony, 7 Sept.
	Hol., pp. 4, mutilated.
8 Sept. R. O. Records of the Reformation, I. 418.	6608. JOHN BAPTIST PALLAVICINI to [STOKESLEY].
	Today, just after breakfast, the governor sent a public messenger to fetch him, which is only done in the case of criminals, and showed him a copy of the letter he had written in the name of the college, with his own name at the foot, and expressed sorrow that so few had so lightly meddled with a serious matter. He asked for the names of the doctors of the university who assisted at the determination, and of those who live in other places. Was forced to obey him. Suspects the notary. Had no copy, and knew of none. Bologna, Nativity of Our Lady, 1530.
	Was asked by the governor whether Stokesley had given him 25 cr. Replied that nothing had been given or offered. Puts his life in Stokesley's hand by telling him this.
	Hol., Lat., p. 1. Add.: R^mo D. Joanni Electo, &c., serenissimi regis Angliæ oratori, Domino meo observandissimo. Endd
9 Sept. R. O. Records of the Reformation, I. 419.	6609. CROKE to HENRY VIII.
	On Our Lady's Nativity, the governor of Bologna sent a common officer to friar Pallavicinus, who has singularly promoted the King's cause, and put him in great fear by ordering him to bring in the names of all the divines of the university of Bologna whom he knew, whether they were tarrying in the town, or not. As there were comparatively few at this determination, although those who dwell outside Bologna scarcely ever come to the town, he challenged Pallavicinus and other fathers, so that they were in marvellous fear. One friar, however, answered him boldly, that he had acted according to his conscience, and that his opinion was true and catholic. Has spoken with six of them, who are singularly learned, and, if the matter come to reasoning, will stand for twenty. Has spoken so roundly to the governor, that he pretended he had not done it of any evil intent. Told the bishop of London what he said to the governor. Came to him last night in post from Bologna, and wrote this letter in haste. Wrote of all other things on 7 Sept. Rhegio, 9 Sept.
	Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
11 Sept. Add. MS. 28,581, f. 108. B. M.	6610. MAI to CHARLES V.
	Was told by the Pope the other day that the English wished to prorogue the cause. Thinks he rather approved of that course himself. Mai said he had no opinion, but was commanded to go on. The Pope said they wished the affair to be remitted to a place free from suspicion. Mai said this was not in his commission; although even the Imperialists did not think Rome a place free from suspicion, were it not for his Holiness, considering the sums of money spent by the English, and that he had heard that cardinal Trani, who is not a lawyer nor of much authority, had been offered 10,000 ducats of rent to favor the king of England's cause. I read the Queen's letters to his Holiness, and, telling him he could not do less, gave him a memorial of that which we demand. Was referred by the Pope to St. Quatuor, with whom he had a long conversation. At last the Pope agreed to a part of their demand, saying as to the rest he would wait the coming of cardinal Ancona two days hence. The bishop of London has been recalled by the King. It is said the bishop of Bayonne, who was to have come here, has gone to England. Rome, 11 Sept. 1530.
	ii. Enclosure in the above, touching the opinion given by Decio in favor of the king of England, of which he hopes to procure a copy; also touching the king of England's protest made before the marriage, which he revoked on coming of age, &c.
	Sp., pp. 5, modern copy from Simancas.
11 Sept. R. O. Records of the Reformation, I. 420.	6611. DR. PALLAVICINI.
	Oath of Pallavicini, doctor of theology, and a Carmelite, that he never gave any copy of the determination of the university of Bologna, or in any way revealed it to the governor; that he did not know that the governor had such a copy, till he showed it to him on the day of the Nativity of the Virgin, and asked him for the names of the present and absent theologians of the university; and that he does not know by whom he got the copy. In the presence of the governor and Croke, Bologna, 11 Sept. 1530.
	Hol., Lat., p. 1. Endd. by Croke: "Pallavicinus own hand and oath afore the governor, the which the governor confirmed by his oath." Another endorsement.
12 Sept. Vit. B. XIII. 111. B. M.	6612. [CROKE to GHINUCCI.]
	When the bishop of London left, he desired Croke to ask [Ghinucci] to send with all speed three transumpts of the Apostolic brief. [In consequence] of the Pope's illwill towards the King, all religious persons [are in such fear] that nothing can be done without the transumpts under Ghinucci's seal. Bologna, 12 Sept.
	Hol., draft, p. 1, Lat., mutilated.
12 Sept. R. O. Records of the Reformation, I. 421.	6613. CROKE to CRANMER.
	Andrew de Casalis has got for the King a confirmation by the college of Bologna of their former act, and would have procured all the learned members of the university to write. The bishop of London tells Croke that Cassalis will promote it all he can, and he has given him 1,600 cr. Is glad of this, because they could not have done so much without it. Notwithstanding, there is now a great stop, for the governor knows everything that is done, and has cited every one of the friars and some of the doctors of law, as Andrew tells him, and he saw himself, when Jerome Previdellus was with the governor. This will prevent Mr. Andrew from doing so much, but Croke hopes he will do well. Asks Cranmer to solicit the bishop of Worcester earnestly for three transumpts of the brief under his seal, without which no good can be done here, as there is universal fear. Asks him to send them to him at Venice by father Francis, who is, as far as he can perceive, a sure friend of the King's cause. Bologna, 12 Sept.
	Hol., pp. 3. Add.
12 Sept. Rym. XIV. 395.	6614. THE DIVORCE.
	Notarial attestation of the oaths of the theologians of Bologna, dated 12 Sept. 1530.
	Lat.
Rym. XIV. 396.	2. Oaths of the notaries to the same attestation.
	Lat.
12 Sept. Harl. MS. 442, f. 109. B. M. Herbert, p. 141.	6615. BULLS FROM ROME.
	Proclamation forbidding the purchasing from the court of Rome or the publishing of anything containing matter prejudicial to the realm, or to the King's intended purposes. Westm., 12 Sept. (fn. 2) 22 Hen. VIII.
	Modern copy, pp. 2.
14 Sept. R. O.	6616. CLAUDIUS RANGONI to SIR FRANCIS BRYAN.
	Does not write often on account of the distance. Could not forbear sending a letter by his friend Guro, who is going to England. Professes willingness to serve him. Modena, 18 kal. Oct.
	Hol., Lat., p. 1. Add.: Domino domino de Brian, uti fratri obser'mo. Endd.
15 Sept. Add. MS. 28,581, f. 120. B. M.	6617. MAI to CHARLES V.
	The affair of Bracciano is settled more to the pleasure of the cardinal of Tarbes than the honor of the Pope, because they pardon the abbot of Farfa, and place the rock of Bracciano secretly in the power of the knight Casal, &c. * * *
	The English molest the Pope continually, pressing him to declare the sentence which is to be given, in case, they say, they come to plead at Rome; and although they have undeceived them frequently, they insist upon it as if it was a right, all the while they say that Rome is not a safe place, being so near Naples. Nevertheless, they say they wish a prorogation. Believes that he must come to judgment, both because he cannot excuse it rightly, and because the counsel of Decio has given them hope that although his Holiness could dispense, the cause was not legitimate. * * * Rome, 15 Sept. 1530.
	Sp., pp. 11, modern copy from Simancas.