Minute Book: May 1705

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May 1705

May 2, forenoon. Present : Lord Treasurer, Chancellor of the Exchequer.
[Write] to Sir William Robinson and Mr. Jett to be here on Monday week in the forenoon.
[My Lord orders] 1708l. (out of loans in the Exchequer) to be issued to Mr. Fox for 84 days' pay in advance to the General Officers and others of the 5000 new raised men going aboard the Fleet.
[Order for the issue] to Mr. Fox [Paymaster General of the Forces Abroad] of 2414l. as per Mr. Pauncefoot's memorial of this day ; to clear the 4 English Regiments forming part of the 10,000 men, to wit for the muster ended 23 Dec. 1704 : to be issued out of loans [in the Exchequer on the One Third Subsidy] anno 1704.
My Lord ordered that Mr. Fox (out of the 62,000l. which he is to raise on tallies on Low Wines) do apply 16,234l. 9s. 8d. to clear the Subject Troops forming part of the 40,000 men, from 24 Dec. 1704 to 23 Feb. 1704-5, offreckonings included : and (out of the 13,500l. which he is to raise on the like tallies) to apply 2494l. 8s. 4d. to clear the 4 Regiments, part of the 10,000 men for the same time.
Order for the issue of 5379l. to Mr. Fox out of loans on the Land Tax anno 1705 : on Mr. Pauncefoot's memorial : of which 5135l. is for "an additional Regiment of Dragoons and Foot" in Portugal [upon the Portugal Establishment] from 25 Oct. 1704 to Dec. 25 following ; and the remaining 244l. for [the charge of] two surgeons and four mates [for the Hospital in Portugal] from 25 Aug. 1704 to Dec. 25 following.
Issue to him (out of the like) 3088l. 18s. 6d. which with a deduction of 7½ per cent. exchange [between English and Irish money] will make 3320l. 12s. 6d. for 6 weeks' subsistence to be paid in advance to the 3 Regiments of Foot to come from Ireland to serve on board the Fleet. The issue is to be made on the order for 87,125l. 10s. 0d. for maintaining the 5000 [sea service] men.
Issue to him 395l. 10s. 0d. to complete 1682l. 18s. 2d. which with a deduction of 7½ per cent. [exchange as above] on the whole [sum] pays the clothing for 1500 recruits sent from Ireland to Portugal anno 1704 : to be issued out of loans on the One Third Subsidy anno 1704 [as by 2-3 Anne c. 18]. This issue is to be made on the order for the Portugal service anno 1704 with a direction that the whole be charged to account of the said Forces.
[Order for the issue of] 1400l. to the Treasurer of the Navy out of money in the Exchequer of loans on the Land Tax anno 1705 [as by 3-4 Anne c. 1] : and is to be paid over to the Treasurer for Sick and Wounded on account of subsistence in money to the prisoners of war for the present month of May.
[My Lord directs the issue of] 1000l. on Mr. Lowndes's order for secret service. Treasury Minute Book XV, pp. 81-2.
May 3, forenoon. Present : Lord Treasurer, Chancellor of the Exchequer.
The [gentlemen of the] Bank of England [are] called [in]. My Lord acquaints them that the pressing occasions of setting out the Fleet requires a considerable supply and therefore hopes they will be ready to give their assistance by lending 100,000l. upon the Land Tax [anno 1705]. They say they will call a Court on purpose and give his Lordship their answer in a few days.
[Order for the] issue of 4052l. 11s. 9¼d. to the executors of Sir Benjamin Bathurst, late Cofferer of the Household : out of Civil List money : and is to clear the creditor [items in his account for part of the expenses] of the late Portugal expedition [to wit the items of expense] in carrying the King of Spain, "which the Board of Green Cloth by their letter of the 7th inst. represent is absolutely necessary to clear the account of the said late Cofferer which is to be passed in this present Easter term." Ibid., p. 83.
May 7, forenoon. Present : Lord Treasurer.
[My Lord directs the issue of] 40,000l. to the Treasurer of the Navy : out of loans on the Land Tax anno 1705 : and is for wages.
and 5000l. more out of same : and is for imprests and bills of exchange and to be placed to the head of Wear and Tear. Ibid., p. 84.
May 10, forenoon. Present : Lord Treasurer.
[My Lord directs the issue of] 989l. 14s. 6d. to Mr. Howe [as Paymaster General of Guards and Garrisons] : out of loans on the Land Tax anno 1705 as in further part of 87,125l. 10s. 0d. for the 5000 men to serve on board the Fleet ; being for 6 months' subsistence to 2 Companies of Handasyde's Regiment going to the West Indies viz. in advance from April 25 last to Oct. 24 next.
Likewise 228l. 15s. 0d. for the like subsistence to 50 supernumerary recruits for the said Regiment for the same time.
[Order for the] issue of 20,000l. to the Treasurer of the Navy out of loans on the Land Tax anno 1705 : and is for the Victualling, to wit for Necessary Money, bills of exchange, Short Allowance [Money] and other Contingencies.
Likewise 6800l. to same out of same : whereof 5000l. is to be as imprest for defraying the contingent charges of the Fleet going under Sir Cloudesley Shovell this summer : and 1800l. for bounty money to the Marine soldiers that were in the action at Gibraltar the last summer. (fn. 1)
[Order for the] issue of 4000l. to [Francis Godolphin] the Cofferer of the Household in part of what remains due to the Household for last Xmas quarter.
[Order for the issue of] 400l. to Mr. Borret on account of [Crown] law [suit] charges.
[Order for the] issue of 1050l. to Mr. Howe on the order in his name for 264,874l. 10s. 0d. for Guards and Garrisons anno 1705 : to be issued out of loans on the Land Tax anno 1705. Hereof 800l. is to be for Col. Elliot's Regiment going with the Earl of Peterborough on the present Expedition [to Spain], as on account of their pay : and 250l. is for Col. Hans Hamilton's Regiment [as for] the like.
[My Lord Treasurer orders the preparation of a] sign manual for 1000l. bounty to Lord Cutts, who is appointed Lieutenant General of the Forces in Ireland ; and is for defraying the charge of transporting himself, family and equipage to Ireland. Treasury Minute Book XV, p. 85.
May 14, forenoon. Present : Lord Treasurer.
[My Lord directs] 30,000l. more [to be issued to the Treasurer of the Navy] for Wages : out of loans on the Land Tax anno 1705.
Let Mr. Wilcox examine and certify my Lord Treasurer how many of the trees blown down in New Forest in the great storm are fit for the service of the Navy and what the value and contents of the same.
[My Lord directs the issue of] 4000l. to the Navy [Treasurer] : out of funds anno 1705 : and is intended for Mr. Whitfield on account of pay due to the Marine Regiments : and is to be placed to the head of Wages.
The Attorney General comes in and Mr. Jett. The Attorney General will acquaint Mr. Stedman that he must be prosecuted unless he discovers from whom he had the altered debt [the altered Army debenture] on the Irish forfeiture [s] : and he [the Attorney General] thinks that without an order from the Exchequer Court Mr. Jett is not to pay on any of the altered debentures the sums for which they were originally made forth. Ibid., p. 86.
May 14, forenoon [sic? for afternoon]. Present : Lord Treasurer.
Petitions are read [and my Lord Treasurer's decisions are endorsed thereon]. Ibid., p. 87.
May 16, forenoon. Present : Lord Treasurer, Chancellor of the Exchequer.
[My Lord directs the issue] to Charles Bertie, the Treasurer of the Ordnance, of 20,000l. for land service of the Ordnance ; out of loans on the Land Tax [3-4 Anne c. 1] and Low Wines [3-4 Anne c. 18] anno 1705.
Petitions are read [and my Lord's answers are endorsed thereon].
The Trustees for [Circulation of] Exchequer Bills [are called in and their memorial is read]. See the Minutes [taken thereon endorsed] on their memorial.
[My Lord directs the issue of] 2000l. to the Office of the Works and is to be paid over to Mr. Wise in further part of 8333l. 1s. 0d. for new works in the gardens at Kensington, Windsor and St. James's Park : making 5000l. [in all] paid [thereon]. Ibid., p. 88.
May 18, forenoon. Present : Lord Treasurer, Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Mr. How is [ordered by my Lord Treasurer] to pay the six Regiments ordered on board the Fleet and the three Regiments part of the 5000 men to be raised in lieu of them and the other three till they go on the Irish Establishment : and as soon as he comes to town he is to depute [some] one to go on board the Fleet with the money if the Fleet be not sailed. If it be [sailed] his deputy is to follow in the pacquet boat with credits [payable] at Lisbon.
Send to the Receiver of Prizes for the state of his cash.
Write to Mr. How concerning the above Minute.
My Lord directs 20,000l. for the Privy Purse and Healing Medals : to be issued out of Civil List money by 500l. a week. Treasury Minute Book XV, p. 89.
May 21,
at my Lord Treasurer's house, at St. James's.
Present : Lord Treasurer, Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Papers [petitions and reports] are read. The answers are [minuted or endorsed] upon them. Ibid., p. 90.
May 22, forenoon.
Whitehall, Treasury Chambers.
Present : ut supra.
See what was borrowed on the tin, how much [has been] repaid and how much [still remains] due.
Acquaint Sir Edward Seymour [as former Treasurer of the Navy] how his account stands and that the draft of the discharge to be signed by him and the Duke of Leeds [as former Treasurer of the Navy] remains with the Attorney General who is ready to make report but nobody follows his [Seymour's account] business. Desire him to appoint a solicitor [to pursue the passing of his accounts] otherwise process must issue. Ibid., p. 91.
May 23, forenoon. Present : ut supra.
Petitions and reports are read and answered [and the answers are minuted or endorsed on them].
Mr. How's memorial [as Paymaster General of Guards and Garrisons] is read and on it my Lord ordered issues as follows : viz.
£ s. d.
out of 17,457l. 5s. 7d. of the tallies on malt anno 1705 in said How's hands and 8521l. 18s. 0¾d. of orders for Annuities purchased this year and 13,857l. 7s. 1¼d. of loans in the Exchequer pro anno 1705 : making 39,836l. 10s. 9d. in all
for Guards and Garrisons anno 1705 39836 10 9
out of 2019l. 9s. 5d. of orders for annuities purchased this year and 3842l. 6s. 9d. of loans in the Exchequer pro anno 1705 making in all 5861l. 16s. 2d.
in part of 87,125l. 10s. 0d. for sea service 5861 16 2
out of the like loans
in part of 5000l. for Invalids anno 1705 according to the [said Howe's] memorial 1278 2 0
in part of 98,969l. 10s. 0d. for 5000 additional men for sea service anno 1705 9500 0 0
£56476 8 11
And out of the money remaining in Mr. How's hands in part of 264,874l. 10s. 0d. for the Guards anno 1704 he is to apply 312l. 9s. 0d. on account of the clearings of the 4 Companies at New York ; to provide arms and necessaries.
Send to Mr. St. Johns [Secretary at War] to be here on Friday morning about matters relating to the Establishment [of the Forces].
Mr. Presgrave will attend here on Friday morning at 9 o'clock. Order the officers of the Exchequer to be here then.
Mr. Bridges [Paymaster General of the Forces Abroad] and Mr. Pauncefoot are called in. On Mr. Bridges' memorial [my Lord Treasurer] ordered 54,174l. 17s. 8½d. for 28 days' subsistence for the Subject Troops and [for full] pay to the Foreign Troops composing the 40,000 men to July 21 next inclusive : whereof 45,756l. 10s. 4d. is to be in money or tallies on the Low Wine Act [3-4 Anne c. 18] anno 1705 [which money and tallies are] to be transferred from Mr. Fox to Mr. Bridges pursuant to the privy seal now passing ; and 8418l. 7s. 4½d. [is to be] out of money in the Exchequer for the service of 1705.
likewise 10,990l. 3s. 8¾d. more for 28 days' subsistence to July 21 next for the Subject Troops and pay to Foreign Troops composing the Additional 10,000 men in the Low Countries : to be issued out of 11,005l. 11s. 8d. of the like money or tallies to be transferred ut supra.
likewise 12,432l. 12s. 1d. for 28 days' subsistence to the same date for the 10,200 men in Portugal : to be issued out of loans in the Exchequer.
likewise 25,000l. on account of the subsidy to the King of Portugal for the Queen's part of the charge of his 13,000 men : to be issued in money or tallies on the Two Thirds Subsidy [3-4 Anne c. 3] anno 1705 [which money and tallies are] to be transferred ut supra.
likewise 25,000l. in further part of 160,000l. for the Duke of Savoy : to be issued in the like money or tallies to be transferred ut supra.
[Send word to] Lord Coningsby to be here on Friday morning.
[Send a] letter to the Excise Commissioners to cause what money can possibly be received on the Bank ninepence [the 9d. per barrel Excise for the Bank Fund by 5 Wm. and Mary c. 20] by the 1st of June next to be paid into the Exchequer on the 31st inst : and similarly to pay in by the 23rd June what money can be received up to the 24th of that month on the ninepence [per barrel Excise] for 99 years for Annuities on survivorships and for lives [by 4 Wm. and Mary c. 3]. Treasury Minute Book XV, pp. 92-3.
May 24, forenoon. Present : Lord Treasurer, Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Petitions and reports are read [and my Lord's decisions and answers are endorsed thereon].
[Write and desire] Mr. Blathwait to signify to the Governor of Virginia that the 150l. per an. in lieu of a house for the Governor shall continue but [only for] 2 years : in which time he may procure a house to be built by the Assembly. Ibid., p. 94.
May 25, forenoon. Present : ut supra.
The officers of the Exchequer and Mr. Presgrave are called in. The examination of Mr. Presgrave is read. He is [directed] to attend the officers at the Exchequer and to compare his own accounts and papers with those of the officers, who are thereupon to make report to my Lord on Monday next.
Lord Coningsby [Paymaster of the Forces in Ireland], Mr. St. John [Secretary at War] and Mr. How [Paymaster General of Guards and Garrisons] are called in. My Lord Treasurer resolves that the 3 Regiments coming from Ireland to go on board the Fleet shall be borne on the Irish Establishment till the 24th May 1705 and from that time they are to be paid by Mr. How and the 3 Regiments (part of the 5000 men now raising in England) for the service of Ireland are to be paid by Mr. How (besides their levy money) what shall be found due for their pay to the same date, 24th May inst., subsisting them as English : and from the said date the said 3 new Regiments are to be borne on the Irish Establishment : and whatsoever hath been paid by Mr. Fox or Mr. How or shall be paid by Mr. How for subsisting the said 3 new raised Regiments in England (according to English subsistence) beyond the said 24th of May is to be made good again to Mr. How by the Paymaster [of the Forces] for Ireland.
[My Lord orders] 200l. to Mr. Taileur, the Deputy Treasurer's Remembrancer, in reward for himself and a sufficient number of clerks speedily to make forth the process to be executed this summer for levying the supers and ipsums standing out on the several [accounts of the Collectors and Receivers of] taxes upon which arrears are depending. Treasury Minute Book XV, p. 95.

Footnotes

  • 1. On the 2nd Nov. 1704 the House of Commons voted an address to the Queen for a bounty to the Seamen and Land Forces who had behaved themselves so gallantly in the late actions (C.J. XIV, 394). The provision for the naval part of this bounty was contained in the appropriation clause of the Two Thirds Subsidy Act (3-4 Anne c. 3) which passed the Commons on the 22 Feb. 1704-5 though it did not receive the royal assent until the 14th of March following. This naval bounty included the Marines for their services at Gibraltar. The earliest Marine Regiment was the Duke of York's Maritime Regiment of Foot which was instituted by Order in Council of 28 Oct. 1664. On the Duke of York's accession as James II the Regiment was styled Prince George of Denmark's Maritime Regiment. It was disbanded 28 Feb. 1688-9, being in reality a garrison rather than a sea service Regiment. In its place two Regiments of Marines were established by the Establishment of 31 Jan. 1689-90 to consist of 3000 men each, the First under Arthur, Earl of Torrington and the Second under Thomas, Earl of Pembroke. In Dec. 1690 the Marquess of Carmarthen succeeded to the command of the First Regiment, whilst the command of the Second Regiment passed successively to Henry Killigrew (1 Jan. 1691), John, Lord Berkeley of Stratton (1 Dec. 1693) and Sir C. Shovell (1 Mar. 1697). These two old or original Marine Regiments were not at first involved in the Disbandment of 1697, not being on the Establishment of the Land Forces. Indeed three other Regiments were temporarily saved from the Disbandment by being added to them by the order of 31 July 1697. By this order the Regiments of Col. William Seymour, Col. Edward Dutton Colt and Col. Henry Mordaunt were put upon the Navy Establishment as new Marine Regiments. A new Establishment of these three Marine Regiments was signed by the King on the 18th July 1698 to date as from the 1st August 1698 and at the same time by the same Establishment a fourth additional Regiment was established viz. that of Thomas Brudenell. (Tr. Cal. XIII p. 394. Treasury Board Papers LV, 2.) This last Regiment was to incorporate the 2 existing Marine Regiments of Carmarthen and Shovell which were ordered to be disbanded at the same time. Accordingly the 1st Regiment (Carmarthen's) was broken 8 Sept. 1698 and the 2nd (Shovell's) was broken 30 Sept. 1698. For the Establishment of their Officers' Half pay see Tr. Cal. XIII, p. 445. This new force of 4 Marine Regiments did not continue in existence for even a twelvemonth. It was regarded by the House of Commons as an effort on the part of the Administration to save three Foot Regiments from the Disbandment programme and in the debate in Committee which took place in Feb. 1698-9 on the state of the Navy a hostile vote was taken on the subject of the Marines. On the 18th of that month the House voted by 187 to 178 to agree with its Committee that the total number of men for the Navy should be 15,000 and that these should consist of seamen only (C.J. XII, p. 518. Lutterell IV, 479, 484). This vote sealed the fate of the four Marine Regiments. By the Land Tax Act of 9 Wm. III c. 10 the House provided 250,000l. for paying off the Regiments, &c., of Horse, Dragoons, Foot and Marines disbanded or to be disbanded. The order for the disbandment of the Marines was issued on the 5 May 1699. The 4 Regiments were to cease to exist as from the 20th of that month. The list of Half pay for the Reformed Officers of these Regiments and of the two old Marine Regiments is dated 16 April 1700 and is printed in Tr. Cal. XV, pp. 320, 452-3. On the renewed outbreak of war six new Marine Regiments were constituted under Colonels Henry Holt, Henry Mordaunt, George Villiers, Thomas Saunderson, Edward Fox and Viscount Shannon, with pay to commence as from 20 April 1702 for the privates though they were not mustered full till the 24th August. A new Establishment for them was signed on the 25 Dec. 1703 (Treasury Board Papers XC, No. 63). At the time of the capture of Gibraltar these six Regiments were under the command of Brigadier William Seymour (as succeeding Mordaunt), Alexander Lutterell (as succeeding Villiers), Holt, Fox, Saunderson and Shannon, as will be seen below. For the purpose of pay and accountancy the earliest Maritime Regiment of the Duke of York had been on the Army Establishment but all the subsequent Marine Regiments were on the Navy Establishment. Their pay was issued to their Agents by Navy bills imprested on the Navy Treasurer by the Navy Commissioners (see Wm. III's decision to this effect in Jan. 1690-1 Treasury Cal. IX, p. 986) and either explicitly or implicitly the Navy estimates included a sum for the Marines (see Commons Journals XI, pp. 6, 180, 363, 575) or for the half pay Marine Officers after disbandment. Quite distinct from the Navy Establishment Marines, from 1702 onwards another related body makes its appearance. This body was styled generally men for service on board the Fleet or Regiments for Sea Service and they formed part of the Establishment of Guards and Garrisons. They were in effect an Expeditionary or Descent Force as distinct from the line Regiments in Flanders or Spain. From 1702 onwards the Vote for Guards and Garrisons included a sum (usually 87,125l. 10s. 0d.) for a body of 5000 men to serve on board the Fleet (C.J. XIII, p. 715, XIV, p. 11). The estimates for 1704 specifically provided for 5000 Marines as part of the Navy vote and for a separate body of 5000 men to serve on board the Fleet as part of the vote for Guards and Garrisons (25 Nov. 1703). In the estimates for 1705 the Navy Marines were increased to 8000 and to the 5000 men to serve on board the Fleet under the Guards and Garrisons vote were added an additional 5000 at a separate estimate of 98,969l. (C.J. XIV, p. 424, 16 Nov. 1704). The origin of this curious bifurcation of the Marine Forces as between the Navy and the Army cannot be explained from the Journals of the House of Commons. But light is thrown upon it by Luttrell. Under date 28 Jan. 1701-2 he states that the discourse about town was that 10,000 English Troops and 6000 Dutch were to be on board the Fleet to make descents upon the French Coasts as they see convenient (Luttrell V, 135). He adds that it was further rumoured that 2 Marine Regiments were to be raised, one to be commanded by the Lord Admiral, the other by the Marquess of Carmarthen. Five days later on the 2nd Feb. he preserves an entry of proceedings in Committee of Supply which is not given at all in the Journals of the House. This entry is as follows : "Mr. Secretary Vernon moved the House by his Majesty's order for 10,000 Marines, which they immediately took into consideration and granted the same : whereof 5000 of them are to be taken out of the 40,000 seamen already voted and the other 5000 to be raised : so that there will be 35,000 seamen and 10,000 marines for this year's service." Ibid., p. 137. In the Journals of the House the formal Resolution on the following day (Feb. 3) upon report from Committee was as follows : Resolved that 352,000l. be granted to his Majesty for the maintaining of Guards and Garrisons anno 1702 including 5000 men to serve on board the Fleet and that an humble address be presented to his Majesty that he will be graciously pleased to interpose with his Allies that they may increase their quotas of Land Forces to be put on board the Fleet in proportion to the numbers his Majesty shall have on board his Fleet. (C.J. XIII, p. 715). The motive for this arrangement was primarily one of economy. The 5000 Land Forces for the Fleet were to cost 87,125l. 10s. 0d. which was to be taken out of the Vote for Guards and Garrisons. The cost of the remaining 5000 men was not voted as they were to be similarly taken out of the Navy Vote which had already passed. Although therefore this composite "Descent" Force of 10,000 men on board the Fleet is spoken of in the Treasury Records as if it were one single body it really represented two separate accounts for two different halves. The Land Force contingent of 5000 men was charged to the 87,125l. 10s. 0d. part of the Guards and Garrisons Vote and the Navy Contingent of 5000 men was not provided for separately by the Treasury. It ran along with and formed part of the Navy Vote and accounts. The Naval contingent produced the Marine Regiments which began to be raised in the following April as noted above : whilst the Land Force contingent remained as a yearly feature of the Guards and Garrisons Establishment from 1702 onwards. The sequence of these Sea Service Regiments on the Army (Guards and Garrisons) Establishment (87,125l. 10s. 0d. vote) from 1702 is as follows : 1702 six Regiments new raised. Col. Thomas Farrington. Earl of Huntingdon. Lord Lucas. Lord Mohun. Sir Richard Temple. Col. Stringer. 1703 (87,125l. 10s. 0d. vote). Robert, Lord Lucas (afterwards Hans Hamilton). Thomas Erle. Gustavus Hamilton. William, Visct. Charlemont. Arthur, Earl of Donegal. Ventris Columbine (afterwards James Rivers). 1704 (87,125l. 10s. 0d. vote). James Rivers. Heyman Rooke. Lord Paston. Thomas Handasyde. John Livesay. Thomas Whetham. 1705 (87,125l. 10s. 0d. vote for 5000 men). Handasyde as above. Livesay. Rivers. Paston. Whetham. Rooke. (98,969l. 10s. 0d. Vote for 5000 additional men). Luke Lillingston. Wynne. Lepel. Soams. Hotham. Breton. From the point of view of Departmental accountancy this double headed body of (Navy) Marine Regiments and (Army) Sea Service Regiments presented formidable difficulties. For the Navy Marines the issue of money as already stated was made through the Navy Treasurer by warrant from the Lord High Treasurer to the Navy Commissioners for making forth bills on the Navy Treasurer. In the case of the Land Force men for sea service the Lord High Treasurer issued moneys to the Paymaster General of Guards and Garrisons. A further complication arose from the Disbandment of 1697. The moneys for the disbandment arrears to the Navy Establishment Marines were issued to the Earl of Ranelagh as Paymaster General of the Land Forces and he in turn paid money to the Treasurer of the Navy or clearing the Marine Officers and men. (See one instance in Tr. Cal. XV, p. 240). On the accession of Anne a separate Paymaster, of Marines was appointed and from the 10th March 1701-2, Walter Whitfield accompted regularly as the Marines' Paymaster and accounting officer but only for the Navy Establishment contingent or Marines proper. His account was fed or put in charge not directly from the Exchequer but by imprests from the Navy Treasurer. (See Treasury Calendar XVIII, p. 179). From the date of the succeeding Marine Establishment of 25 Dec. 1703 the Marines were put under the control of Prince George of Denmark in accordance with the Queen's Instructions for the better Government of the Marine Regiments. But as Prince George was not merely Lord High Admiral but also Generalissimo of her Majesty's Forces by sea and land the position was as ill defined as before. The Sea Service Regiments which were on the Establishment of Guards and Garrisons (such as went to Cadiz in 1702 and to the West Indies in 1703 viz. Donegal's, Charlemont's, Erle's and Hamilton's) continued to be furnished with subsistence direct from the Paymaster General of Guards and Garrisons. The Lord Treasurer issued money to the Paymaster General of the Guards and Garrisons and he in turn paid the subsistence money for the Sea Service Regiments to the Regimental Agent in London for him to remit by exchange just as was done for the Independent Companies of Foot in New York or in Barbados or any other Plantation. (See Ibid., pp. 102, 188, 223, 251). For the year here in question viz. 1704, the Regiments employed for service at sea were (in the West Indies) Handasyde's, Livesay's, Whetham's representing 5000 men provided for out of the total vote for Guards and Garrisons and the Regiments of James Rivers and Lord Lucas (the latter replaced by Lord Paston) and Col. Heyman Rooke representing the 5000 additional men for sea service provided for by the special vote out of the 25 per cent. Duty on French Goods. To this inextricable confusion of accounting there was added the enormous difficulty of obtaining satisfactory returns of muster rolls. The Marines were shipped on board the fleet without regard to regimental units. This will be apparent at a glance from the list of the Marines shipped on board Rooke's fleet which captured Gibraltar. See below. Furthermore, just as the detachments were shipped and sent out in driblets, regardless of Company formation, so also they were brought home in driblets at different times from different parts of the earth or sea. It was for this reason that the disbandment of the years 1698 and 1699 was so protracted and difficult. On two occasions the House of Commons had to consider this matter. By clause 51 of the Mutiny Act of 1703 (2-3 Anne c. 17) Parliament empowered the Treasury under authority of the Queen's sign manual to pay the 10,000 Marines until 25 Dec. 1703 even in the absence of muster rolls ("if destitute of muster rolls ... such sums as the Treasury Lords shall think reasonable for clearing the said Regiments and Companies to the said date.") The second occasion concerned the employment of the Marines in the capture of Gibraltar and in garrison there. The Act of 4-5 Anne c. 12 (an Act for paying and clearing several Regiments) had been introduced primarily for providing for the pay of Lieut. Gen. William Stewart's Regiment of Foot which had been captured in Portugal at Castello De Vide in June 1704 and Col. John Hill's Regiment of Foot which had been captured similarly at Portalegre in May 1704 both which Regiments had been kept prisoners in Spain a twelvemonth or so. But when the bill was under consideration on the 25th Jan. 1705-6 (C.J. XV, 112) the committee for the bill was instructed to receive a clause in behalf the Marine Companies which were at Gibraltar viz. Col. Seymour's, Lord Shannon's, Col. Borr's [Fox's] and Col. Holt's. Accordingly the Act authorises the Queen to give warrant for paying Holt's Regiment of Marines from 25 Aug. 1704 to 24 Dec. 1705 because the Regiment or most of them in 1704 had not been regularly mustered by reason of disputes arising between the Commanding Officers at Gibraltar and other accidents. The Marines actually on board Sir George Rooke's squadron which captured Gibraltar were as follows : 3 April 1704 Marines on board the ships which sailed with Sir George Rooke. 59 men of Major Purcell's Company (Seymour's Regiment) : on board the Royal Katherine. 52 men of Capt. Kempenfelt's Company (Seymour's Regiment) : on board the Monmouth. 59 men of Capt. Bissett's Company (Seymour's Regiment) : on board the Montagu. 48 men of Brigadier Seymour's Company (Seymour's Regiment) : on board the Antelope. 60 men of Lieut. Col. Rooke's Company (Seymour's Regiment) : on board the Kent. 15 men of Capt. Hodge's Company ; 11 men of Capt. Adams' Company ; 4 men of Capt. Docton's Company ; 1 man of Capt. Piggott's Company ; 1 man of Capt. Warr's Company ; and 4 men of Capt. Devereux's Company (Lutterell's Regiment) : on board the Expedition. 40 men of Capt. Morison's Company and 30 men of Capt. Rodney's Company (Col. Holt's Regiment) : on board the Bedford. 80 men of Capt. Dahlem's and Capt. Wilson's Companies (Holt's Regiment) : on board the Suffolk. 5 men of Major Lawrence's Company (Holt's Regiment) and 5 men of Capt. Kemp's Company (Col. Fox's Regiment) : on board the Newport. 34 men of Capt. Wildbore's Company (Col. Fox's Regiment) : on board the Expedition. 87 men of Major Cobham's Company and Capt. Mullins' Company (Col. Fox's Regiment) : on board the Hampton Court. 16 men of Lieut. Col. Borr's Company (Col. Fox's Regiment) : on board the Advice ; and 19 men of the same Company : on board the Leopard. 66 men of Col. Brereton's Company (Col. Saunderson's Regiment) : on board the Eagle. Marines on board the ships which are to follow Sir George Rooke to Lisbon. 41 men of Capt. Harrison's Company and 39 men of Capt. Henley's Company (Holt's Regiment) : on the Nassau. 30 men of Major Lawrence's Company (Holt's Regiment) : on the Shrewsbury. 34 men of Col. Holt's Company and 45 men of Capt. Manley's Company (Holt's Regiment) : on the Berwick. 52 men of Capt. Lisle's Company (Holt's Regiment) : on the Somerset. 57 men of Capt. Palleser's Company and 50 men of Capt. Buston's Company (Col. Saunderson's Regiment) : on the Boyne. 43 men of Capt. Ord's Company (Col. Saunderson's Regiment) : on the Royal Oak. 53 men of Lieut. Col. Pownall's Company and 56 men of Capt. Bedford's Company (Col. Saunderson's Regiment) : on the Cambridge. 47 men of Sir William Mansell's Company and 48 men of Capt. Ward's Company (Col. Saunderson's Regiment) : on the Triton, prize. 45 men of Capt. Docton's Company (Col. Lutterell's Regiment) : on the Swiftsure. 55 men of Capt. Tynt's Company (Col. Lutterell's Regiment) : on the Somerset. 53 men of Col. Lutterell's Company and 57 men of Capt. Blynman's Company (Col. Lutterell's Regiment) : on the Prince George. 47 men of Major Blakeney's Company (Col. Lutterell's Regiment) : on the Burford. 46 men of Capt. Webb's Company (Lord Shannon's Regiment) : on the Royal Oak. 49 men of Capt. Bradshaw's Company and 34 men of Capt. Thomson's Company (Lord Shannon's Regiment) : on the Torbay. 43 men of Lieut. Col. Markham's Company and 46 men of Capt. Williams' Company (Lord Shannon's Regiment) : on the Grafton. 53 men of Capt. Massam's Company and 38 men of Capt. Lennard's Company (Lord Shannon's Regiment) : on the Devonshire. 52 men of Capt. Carter's Company and 60 men of Capt. Hutton's Company (Lord Shannon's Regiment) : on the Essex. 58 men of Capt. V. Alphen's Company and 47 men of Capt. Stewart's Company (in Col. Fox's Regiment) : on the Yarmouth. 30 men of Capt. Kemp's Company (Col. Fox's Regiment) : on the Shrewsbury. 20 men of Capt. Foulk's Company (Col. Fox's Regiment) : on the Burford. 55 men of Capt. Savill's Company (Brigadier Seymour's Regiment) : on the Warspight. (Total of Marines gone with Sir George Rooke 696 : total of ditto to follow him 1493 or in all 2189). State Papers Domestic (Naval) 119, No. 22.