Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 19 Part 2, August-December 1544. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1905.
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"Henry VIII: September 1544, 6-10". Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 19 Part 2, August-December 1544. Ed. James Gairdner, R H Brodie(London, 1905), , British History Online. Web. 16 November 2024. https://prod.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol19/no2/pp103-114.
September 1544, 6-10
6 Sept. | 189. Privateering. |
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See Grants in September, No. 6. | |
6 Sept. | 190. The Council with the Queen to the Council with the King. |
R. O. | Enclose letters and advertisements received this day from the North, to be signified to the King. Look daily for more certain knowledge of Lynoux's proceedings. Pray God that the King may shortly attain his enterprise. Oking, 6 Sept. Signed by Canterbury, Wriothesley, Westminster and Petre. |
P.1. Add. Endd. 1544. | |
6 Sept. | 191. Raids in Scotland. |
Add. MS. 32,655, f. 175. B. M. Hamilton Papers, ii., No. 318(1). |
Exploits done by Sir Brian Layton, Thos. Goore, Henry Eure, John Carre, etc., sent forth by lord Eure 6 Sept. 1644. |
Litleton burnt, all except the storehouse. Rotherford burnt. Dawcove taken by assault and Burnt (9 prisoners and much baggage won). The lairds of Hume, Bowclewgh and Sesforth, Mark Carre and Dand Carre pursued and were foughten with and chased, losing 50 Scots taken and 6 slain. Dand Carre "went hardly away," Jock Hollyburton's uncle's son was taken, and many monks and canons also, and Mark Carre ill hurt. | |
ii. Exploits done by Sir Ralph Eure, 6 Sept. 1544. | |
Town and church of Exforth and town of Ormeston burnt. Moss Tower, a very strong house, won by assault lasting 5 hours, wherein 37 Scots were slain, including two of the Carres and Dande Yownge, who is much moaned in Tyvydale. Three English prisoners were there recovered, the tower burnt and 100 horseload of spoil gotten. Grymsley, Horton of the Hill, Aldroksebrowghe, Cralling and Cralling Coves burnt. "In the said tower were taken 80 prisoners and not a man of them unhurt." | |
iii. Exploits done by lord Wharton, &c., 6 Sept. 1544. | |
Hodholm, Hodholm Mains and all the peels and houses (named) within Hodholm, Myddleby, Haglesleyghan, Boonshaw, and Robgyll, with all the corn found by the way, burnt. Four Scots slain and sundry taken, including Irwen Proctour, a friend of Robert Maxwell's. Never within the memory of man was so much hurt done with fire in the West Marches of Scotland. | |
Pp. 4. Endd. | |
6 Sept. | 192. Sir Richard Riche to Wriothesley. |
R. O. | Has received his letter, and also, by Mr. Hygham, 30,000l.; at the receipt of which he had not 1.500l. and this 30,000l. will scarce satisfy next pay day, 8 Sept. Begs him to accelerate the next mass of money sent, which must be here before 22 Sept. This night at 10 o'clock 30 of the Frenchmen issued out at a breach by the castle to win the bray which we had won, and there was a good skirmish and 9 or 10 Frenchmen slain. One Frenchman offered 300 cr. for his life but "he suffered also." If powder come, we shall make the assault the latter end of this week and "the town must be the King's." Camp near Bullen, 6 Sept. |
Hol.,p.1. Add.: lord Chancellor. Endd.: 1544. | |
6 Sept. | 193. Wotton to Henry VIII. |
R. O. St. P., x. 61. |
Since we left Chaalons, the escorts are not strong enough to conduc the posts, and these men have removed the garrisons from Lorayne, so that unless by safe conduct like this, there is no means of sending. Granvell shows me that the Admiral of France with one of the Maisters des Requestes (foe the President who accompanied him before died two days after returning to thr French king) came hither again and offered reasonably to the Emperor but would not consent to satisfy Henry, so they parted. The Maister des Requestes has since returned and offered payment of the arrears of Henry's pension, with proof why it ought not to be paid hereafter, and (when Granvelle insisted that Henry must be satisfied) that his master should be ordered therein by the Emperor. Granvelle answered that the Emperor would not undertake that, for the amity and league was that none would agree to anything unless the other was also satisfied, and although the Cardinal of Paris and Secretary Laubespyne had gone to Henry, the Emperor knew well that they would find the like mind in him; they knew what Henry required, but if the French king would give a safe conduct through France the Emperor would send to Henry. This safe conduct being granted, the Emperor now sends the bp. of Arras, Granvelle's son, who is in favour both for his father's sake and for his own learning, wit, etc. His father ever shows himself addict to Henry, and says that Arms will particularly report all communications with the French ambassadors here. For lack of time, having been advertised only this after noon of his departure this evening, and because he knows best what this army has done, I will be the briefer. We are now about 10 leagues on this side Chaallons, leaving Reyms on the right and still following the Marne. The day after I last wrote we lodged within a league of Chalons and viewed it, and on the 2nd inst. went round the town to the Paris side, as though to attack it, but about midnight removed towards the French camp, four leagues off, betwixt Marne and Yone. Of the taking of the prince de le Roche sur Yone and 28 or 29 other French gentlemen, and of Count Guillaume de Furstenberg the same morning, the taking of the staple of victuals and munitions for the French army and of boats laden with wine, and the burning of Ay, Esprenay and other villages hereabouts, Arras will inform you. At the camp, 10 leagues on this side Chalons, 6 Sept. 1544.- |
Hol., partly in cipher, pp. 3. Add. Endd. | |
R. O. | 2. Contemporary decipher of the portions in cipher above. |
P. 1. | |
6 Sept. | 194. Wotton to Paget. |
R. O. | For haste, wrote not to Paget when he last wrote to the King, and likewise omitted the date of his Majesty's letter, which was from a place 3 leagues from Chaalons. The Emperor has deceived the expectation of the French king, who looked not for him so nigh. Have fair weather as they could wish and plenty by the way, being unlooked for, especially at a good abbey, where they found the tables covered, the holy fathers having had scant warning to run away. The Frenchmen fortify their camp still against our return, but our men desire nothing more than to be in hand with them, which I would were done that we might homeward, for else I shall be without money. I doubt not but you will show all courtesy to Mons. d'Arras this bearer, but if my request might add anything to your good will I would be glad that he might perceive it. "Written at a village 10 leagues on this side Chaalons," 6 Sept. 1544. |
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd. | |
7 Sept. | 195. The Council with the Queen to the Council with the King. |
R. O. | Send letters herewith which arrived this day from the North. Their letters just delivered signify that the powder remaining here in the Tower or in the ships, except a mean furniture, is to be sent over; and the Queen has thereupon despatched Sir Thos. Arondell to London to take order for the sending of the powder in the Tower (nigh 20 lasts) and also like order for the ships and bulwarks. Will write to the ports to stay "such light women as use to pass over to the camp." This morning, sent over to them, by the bailey of Westminster, a soldier that came thence without licence. Will now take order for [the apprehension?] and punishment of such as come hither from henceforth. Oking, 7 Sept. Signed by Canterbury, Wriothesley, Westminster and Petre. |
In Pefre's hand, p. 1. Faded. Add. Endd.: 1544. | |
7 Sept. | 196. The Council with the Queen to the Council with the King. |
R. O. | Since the King's passing over the seas, many soldiers have come over without passport from their captains, contrary to the statutes of the realm. Amongst others is David Morice, of the retinue of Mr. Deverox, whom, for the terror of others, we remit to the camp by bearer, the bailiff of Westminster, who, for-business of his own, sued for licence to pass over. Ask how to use such as shall hereafter wander hither. Oking, 7 Sept. 1544. Signed by Canterbury, Wriothesley, Westminster and Petre. |
P. 1. Faded. Add. Endd.:1544. | |
7 Sept. | 197. Shrewsbury and Others to the Queen. |
Add. MS. 32,655, f. 173 B. M. Hamilton Papers, ii., No. 318. |
Enclose letters from the Wardens of the East, West and Middle marches showing the honest service they have lately done. This day received letters from the Council attending her, for Wharton to send persons by sea and use all other means to learn Lynoux's proceedings at Donbrytayne Had already partly done this. Perceive also by the same letters that Kelso and Mewrehouse are to be burnt. The latter stands far within Scotland and is well garnished with men, who have withdrawn thither from the Borders, and the King's garrisons and subjects have wearied themselves and tired their horses by their late exploits; but the wardens are written to to consult thereupon and send opinions. Perceive by the same letter that 2,000l. shall be sent shortly, and have received a letter to Mr. Shelley to pay Sadler such money as he has, but they fear that he has not so much, or at least not much more than will furnish next month's wages. Darneton, 7 Sept. 1544. Signed by Shrewsbury, Tunstall and Sadler. |
P.S.—Here arrived the letters (herewith) from the Warden of the West Marches, with others to him from Glencarn to be answered. | |
Pp. 3. Add.Endd. | |
7 Sept. | 198. Charles V. |
Add. MS. 28,594, f. 1. B. M. [Spanish Calendar, vii. 195 ] |
"Instruction a vous, nostre tres chier et feal conseillier, Messire Anthoine Perrenot, evesque d'Arras, de ce que avez a faire devers le roy d'Angleterre, ou presentement vous envoyons." |
To go with speed to the King and say that the Emperor has, as opportunity offered, advertised the Queen of Hungary, the Sieur Deniron, (fn. n1) captain of his archers, and Messire Eustace Chappui his ambassador, of his progress, and has also imparted it to the King's ambassador with him; and notably of all the diligences made by the French, as well at the beginning by the Srde Longueval sent from the Bailly of Dijon, the Sr de Breteville, lieutenant of the Sr de ––––––(blank), as by a religious man, and also touching the coming of the Admiral of France with safe conduct. That the Emperor long refused and delayed the said communication, waiting to know how the King would act on his side and his advice, until he heard that the King thought that the Sieur de Reulx should hear what the French wished to say to him and, successively, what the King intimated by the Emperor's said ambassadors and by his own of what had passed with the Sr de Frenezelle. That in communication with the Admiral the Emperor restricted himself to finding out what the King of France wished; and the inclination shown by Don Fernando de Gonzaga and Granvelle to the alliances proposed by France was under condition that France should assist against the Turk and satisfy the King of England, with preliminary protestation to accord nothing without this satisfaction of the said King. Notwithstanding the said communications and the offers made by the French, the Emperor has continued the war and come before Chalon, feigning a wish to besiege it, in order to come to the French army, being camped three leagues on this side Chalon, and compel them to battle. And here he may tell the King what diligence the Emperor made on Tuesday last (fn. n2) all night and the next day, and how the French went in disorder into their principal fort (and seemed terrified, although they had a river on one side and a wall on the other), where they have since been busy entrenching, and have themselves begun to burn Epernay and the places round to prevent our obtaining victuals. The French have never ventured out of their fort except for little skirmishes, in which they have always lost. The French, astonished at the Emperor's marching forward, solicit peace, offering 600 men of arms and 10,000 footmen to serve against the Turk (or else the pay of so many Almains and Swiss), to restore all that they have occupied from the Emperor and the Duke of Savoy, as well on this side of the Mountains as beyond, since last re-commencement of war, and to do as the Emperor pleases with Steney, which they took from the late duke of Lorraine and fortified; and that for a marriage of Mons. d'Orleans to the Emperor's daughter, with the Low Countries, or to his niece, the second daughter of the King, with Milan, they will restore to the duke of Savoy all the rest that they occupy, and conform to the treaties of Madrid and Cambray, giving suitable assurance for perpetual peace. As to the King of England, they offer to pay all the arrears of the pension at reasonable terms, and for .the future and all the rest to do as the Emperor shall tell them; which the Emperor would never accept, but referred it to the said King, saying that they must deliver him reasonable satisfaction. And because for a long time there has been no news of the King of England, and the French boast that he has done nothing at Boulogne or Monstreul and, the season being so advanced, can do nothing on that side (and it is learnt by spies that they mean to withdraw most of their men from thence, and that the Dauphin returned because not needed there), the Emperor sends Arras, on pretence of learning the King's final wish touching peace, principally in order to advertise him of all that has passed and to know certainly what he intends to do, both in the war and in the peace, so that the Emperor may do the like in accordance with the treaty. As to continuing the war, the King may consider how far the Emperor is already within this kingdom, and how he has astounded the common enemy, "et l'hazard ou il se retreuve de present, si ledit roy d'Angleterre faisoit marcher diligemment la syenne (armee) et s'approcha," and also that all he shall do henceforth is to the King's advantage, seeing the offer made by France as above. The King should also consider that the principal forces of France are opposed to this army, and that a good number of warlike men, both Italians and French, have been brought from Piedmont, and the King of France, seeing the Emperor so far within his kingdom, assembles men from the frontiers of Burgundy, Luxemburg and those on the frontiers of the said King of England, and it would be a heavy charge for the Emperor to bear that burden alone; besides, that this great army has been an incredible expense to the Emperor and very difficult to furnish with victuals, the want of which, if the French compelled it to halt, would be irremediable. It is impossible to bring the pay of the army from Flanders, as the King has already heard; and to send a force sufficient to conduct it would diminish this army. To besiege any town of importance without pay, and perhaps with lack of victuals, would give occasion for mutiny; and, with winter approaching and pay lacking, any town taken would be sacked, and to continue the war simply to destroy the country would be cruel and fruitless as far as the Emperor is concerned. It is therefore more than requisite to know if the King wishes to continue the war, and for how long, whether he will forthwith march his main (puissante) army (and by what way) without stopping to make any siege until we are near together, and we may, thus supported, send for the payment of ours. | |
And as to the peace, the King might advertise us of his final resolution touching his claim (pretention), especially upon the charge with which the Cardinal Belay is gone to him (as you will hear,--and the French "en font feste") and the means which the King of France offers us, as well for Christendom at large as for us; we being confident that as to the first he will act as becomes his dignity and magnanimity, and as to the second like a true friend. | |
All the above is to be communicated first to the said Sieur de Curier and the ambassador Chappuis, and with their advice laid before the King. If the King says that he will at once march his main army towards the Emperor, he is to be shown the difficulties, the possibility of delay and the charge which the Emperor is at, and that it must be considered, whether that which is sought and is likely to be effected will be a greater means of coercing the enemy; and also, in case the Emperor's money may come, the King must know that what the Emperor shall do with it is for his sake and not for anything that concerns the Emperor. And in case he does not wish to march at once, as above, he is to know that the Emperor has done all that in him lay to press the enemy, "et qu'il n'a resté ny fait encoires par nous de passer plus oultre"; and in that case, let him regard the above reasons why the Emperor neither can nor ought longer to sustain so great charge, and on his side let him take (arreste) the means of peace which suit him, and which he can get from the French as things stand. | |
In all this business the King of England is not to understand that the Emperor is absolutely determined either as to war or peace, but rather suspends all and will determine in accordance with Arras's report of the King's intention; and it is to-be obtained if possible that, if the King will not march at once, he may resolve what concerns him for the said peace and be content that the Emperor do likewise, without further sending one to another; for, as the said ambassadors may be told in confidence, in that case, the Emperor is forced to withdraw his army and accept the French conditions, reserving the alliance and treaty with the said King as to the rest. Wishes above all that the King may be satisfied and their treaty remain in force, and that in all events the Emperor may be justified and might rather complain of faults on the King's side. | |
On his arriving near the Low Countries he shall advertise the Queen of the above, and that she may put ready on the side of Calais all the money she can obtain for the pay of the said army, with victuals for it, in case he finds on the side of the King of England means of bringing the said money. Also he shall advertise the Queen thereof, and of all he does there. Made at the camp one hour from Dermant, 7 Sept. 1544. | |
French. Modern copy from Brussels, pp. 8. | |
2. [Record of negociations of the Admiral of France with the Viceroy of Sicily and Granvelle.] | |
5 Sept. 1544, after the Sieur de Nully recited to the viceroy of Sicily and Grantvelle the King's conclusion, they said that they stood to the marriage of Mons. d'Orleans with the Princess of Spain, in favour of which the Low Countries and the duchy of Burgundy should be delivered to her, and, in default of that marriage (of which however they were sure, having heard that day from the Emperor), Orleans should espouse the daughter of the King of the Romans, and to her should be delivered the duchy of Milan, and if she has no children the King should resume his claim to Milan. Nully said that the King had concluded to render forthwith all that he had taken from the Emperor since the treaty of Nyce, together with Montferrat, provided that all taken from him was likewise rendered. The Viceroy and Grantvelle said that the Emperor accorded it, provided that, as first talked of, all taken from the duke of Savoy was also rendered. Nully replied that the King did not intend to do that, unless after the marriage was consummated, but he would speak to the King of it; Stenay would also pertain to Orleans because of the Princess. As to the King of England, the Viceroy and Grantvelle said that the Emperor considered the offer reasonable, and, as it was not honorable to do anything without first informing that King, they asked a safe-conduct for that purpose. Nully said that he would speak of it to the Admiral. The Viceroy and Granvelle also said that the Emperor thought the succour against the Turk (600 men of arms and 10,000 foot) reasonable. | |
Next day, the 6th, Nully returned and said that, for the sake of peace, the Admiral consented to the surrender of the places of the duke of Savoy, provided that the fortresses might be thrown down. This they granted, saying that they thought that there were none. The rest touching the duke of Savoy is deferred until the answer of the personage whom the Emperor sends to the king of England. Nully also said that he had the Dauphin's safe-conduct for the said personage and a man of Orleans' household to accompany him, and fresh horses. Grantvelle then said that the Emperor had chosen the bp. of Arras to go to the King of England and show that the King's offers were reasonable, and that he hoped this journey would be to the weal of Christendon. In speaking then of the marriage of the Princess, the Viceroy said to the bailly of Dijon "Or ça, Mons. d'Orleans sera mon petit me; et je vous prie me feire ce bien de luy dire qu'il me reçoyve pour son serviteur; aussi esperay je faire ung bon service au Roy et en plus grandes choses que celles qui se practiquent." It was then concluded that next day the Admiral and the deputies should meet to conclude the rest. | |
French, pp. 3. Endd.: The copie of th'Admiralles l'res. | |
7 Sept. | 199. Mont to Henry VIII. |
R. O. | Thinks it his duty to write what he has learnt from a good observer of French affairs, viz., that at Bar le Due was a meeting of Signor Hanebault, the Chancellor (whether of the kingdom or of Alençon the writer knows not), (fn. n3) Bayard and Lobespine, and Granvelle, who treated of peace and departed thence on 25 Aug.; and that peace is treated between the Emperor and the king of France by two Dominican monks, both Spaniards, one the Emperor's confessor, the other the Queen of Navarre's, who were twice in the Emperor's camp at St. Digier. His informant does not yet know the conditions of peace, but will try to get a copy of the writings, if this business is treated in writing. |
The five standards of footmen which Hans a Sickingen is taking to the Emperor will muster on the 8th inst. at Pontes Sarnios. Strasburg, 7 Sept., 1544. | |
Hol. Lat., p. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd. | |
7 Sept. | 200. Mont to Paget. |
R. O. | Asks him to present letters to the King. What he writes is from no light authority. Germany has no news. The orators of the Protestants, a great number of whom were with the Emperor about the Brunswick controversy, are returned, and the discussion is relegated to a future Diet; for the Emperor wants the ejected Duke's dominion delivered to him, which the Protestants deprecate. Strasburg, 7 Sept. 1544. |
Hol. Lat., p. 1. Add. Endd. | |
8 Sept. | 201. Henry VIII. to the Queen. |
Calig. E. iv. f. 55. B. M. Rymer, xv. 50. |
Thanks for her letter sent by her servant Robert Warner and for venison sent by him and now last by-––––(blank) Fowler, servant to the Prince. Would write again with his own hand but is so busy in foreseeing and caring for everything. Detained her servant so long, hoping to send by him good news of the taking of the town, which has been delayed by the not coming of the powder out of Flanders. Looks for the powder in two or three days, and then to write some good news; but meanwhile has, without loss of men, won the strongest part of the town, viz. the braye of the castle and can keep it with 400 men against 4,000 enemies. Describes how the men in it are safe except from the top of the castle and "a ringe that goeth about it," for which there is hand to hand fighting and "'they" have defended it "much manfuller than either Burgunion or Flemmings would have done," for such of these as he has are no good where any danger is. |
The French king makes suit to him for peace, writing in his own hand for safe-conduct to the Cardinal of Bellaye, the Primier President of Roan, the Primier Treasurer of Finances, the captain of the Dolphin's guard, and one of his Principal Secretaries, who are at Abbeville, coming hitherward. Has sent safe-conduct and appointed them to repair to Hardelowe castle with 50 horses, 20 only to be lodged in the castle. As the French king promised to use his advice in appointing with the Emperor, Henry wrote to his ambassador to learn the Emperor's demands and has received them in articles. As they are very extreme, has sent the Emperor his own demands of like extremity, viz. arrears of pension, damages suffered by the war, the realm of France and the duchies of Normandy, Aquitaine and Guienne. Either the Emperor mindeth no peace or would pluck the honor of compounding it, although the French king says that he never made means to the Emperor for peace. Pray communicate this to the Council. | |
"Where she asks his pleasure as to accepting certain ladies into her chamber in lieu of some that are sick, he remits their acceptance to her own choice; and although some that she names are too weak to serve, they may pass the time with her at play. Is content to stay the giving from Archer's wife "of those things you wrote for." | |
Ellis, 1 Ser. ii. 130. |
P.S. in his own hand.—At the closing of these letters the "[bysyzing (fn. n4) of] the castell aforenamed," with the dike, is at our commandment, and not like to be recovered by the Frenchmen; and castle and town are like to follow the same trade, for this day, 8 Sept., we begin three batteries and have three mines going, besides one which has shaken and torn one of the greatest bulwarks. Is too busy to write more, but sends blessings to all his children and recommendations to his cousin Margett (fn. n5) and the rest of the ladies and gentlewomen and to his Council. Signed. |
Pp. 4. Much mutilated. Printed by Rymer before the mutilation. | |
8 Sept. | 202. The Council with the King to the Council with the Queen. |
R. O. | The King's answer to their letters of the 5th with those out of the North is that, "albeit the things are much suspicious," Glenkerne's promises and proceedings hitherto have been such that his Grace cannot suddenly remove his good opinion, but "considering the light nature of that nation," he prays them to learn the truth as soon as possible; and thanks them for their diligence in matters of the North. The Frenchmen in the West are to be tolerated until the King's return, when they will be admitted as denizens. The 4.000 footmen written for long since (who, as they advertise, are ready) shall be at once sent to the port of Boulloyn; and such of them as must needs pass from Dover shall not tarry there, where the plague is such that "the infecting of any of them might be dangerous to the army here." The King requires them to use diligence in sending the powder lately written for. Camp before "ragged Boulloyn," 8 Sept., at midnight, 1544. Signed by Essex and Paget. |
In Masons hand, pp. 2. Add.: To etc., attending upon the Quenes most noble grace. Endd. | |
8 Sept. | 203. For the Siege of Boulogne. |
Add. MS. 5,753, f. 101. B. M. |
Warrant for payment to Thomas Philippis, one of the King's smiths of Callys, of 41l. 13s. 4d. st. for 2,500 "smalle gonnes" delivered to Henry Johnson, surveyor of the Ordnance, "for balles of wyldefyer." Written at "thassiege" of Boullongne, 8 Sept. 36 Hen. VIII. Signature and treasurer's name cut off. |
P. 1. | |
8 Sept. | 204. Norfolk and Russell to the Council. |
R. O. | This night the ambassadors will be here and, tomorrow, after breaking their fast, will ride to Hardeloe. This morning, at the bastilion which is making to keep the entry and sally out of this town by the cawsye, were joined by Mons. de Bewers who, in returning, told Norfolk that part of his horsemen in the King's wages had their three months' wages expired, "and part should within iiij. or v. days, and the rest very shortly after, who had demanded of him how they should be used for their entertainment." Norfolk asked what that meant and was answered: "To be entertained as such as were now in the King's service, of Almaynes, were." Norfolk asked for the demand in writing, saying that he thought that the King would pay as the Emperor did, and dissuading De Bewers from going to the King as he intended. Suspects his meaning to be that if newly retained their retaining should be for three months. They bemoan the dying of their horses and people; and not without cause, for very many of our horses die and our men fall sick in great number. It will be hard to get them to tarry here after Michaelmas, for lack of forage, which they will not provide, as has been certified both by me the lord Privy Seal and by Mr. Treasurer. Whereas "ye, Mr. Secretarie," spoke to Norfolk for payment of De Bewers's attendants who are neither in the King's service nor the Emperor's; he has some horsemen and footmen, and the writers would know after what rate to pay them. Marvellously desire good news of Boleyne, so that they may be furnished from thence "and no longer be idle here for lack of furniture." From the camp, 8 Sept. 1544. Signed. |
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. | |
8 Sept. | 205. The Queen of Hungary to De Courrieres and Chapuys. |
R. O. [Spanish Calendar. vii. 196.] |
Has now received letters from the Emperor written at La Chaulcee, three short leagues from Chalon, on the last of the past month, advertising her that on the morrow he meant to make a show of approaching the town, which is well furnished; and, thereupon, to pass on against Paris, in order to fulfil his capitulation with the King of England. If that King would, in pursuance of the said capitulation, send forward his army of at least 30,000 men the same way, their two Majesties would shortly set (metteroient) the common enemy right (a la raison); and it will be no little regret to the Emperor, besides the risk to his person, if the King does not advance his army, insomuch that all the enemy's force will fall upon the Emperor's army. |
The Emperor sends the letter herewith in their credence to show the King what has passed between the Viceroy of Sicily and Grantvelle on the one part and the Admiral of France and a president of Paris [on the other], as they will see by the extract of the Emperor's letters herewith. They will find that the Emperor's deputies have been entirely guided by the treaty of closer amity with the King of England; as they shall represent to the King, with such considerations as they can think of, hoping that he will make no difficulty at it and will recognise that the French study only to put jealousy between their Majesties. | |
The Sieur de Tourcoing left this town yesterday, but she holds that he will not be able to pass, as the Emperor has broken all the passages "et barois" (qu. en Barois?) towards his camp and does not wish that way to be taken any more. | |
Fr. Modern transcript of the original minute at Vienna, p. 1. Original headed: A Courrieres et Chapuys, de Bruxelles, du viiie de Septembre 1544. | |
9 Sept. | 206. Wriothesley to the Council with the Queen. |
R. O. St. P., I. 769 |
Being at dinner at Kingston, where all is yet clear, as the bailiffs and honest men declare to me, I received these letters from my lord Chief Justice, and, immediately afterwards, the packet out of the North. As to the Northern matters the exploits are notable and worthy of thanks, which may be given upon the effect of their consultation now in hand upon the receipt of your last letters. The letters of Glencarne and Kilmawres declare their untruth, "how foolishly soever they would colour it"; and I see not that we can do anything without knowing the King's pleasure (especially when we hear nothing yet from Lenoux and our men "who, being good simple folks, have been prettily by th'old fox and his cub deceived") unless, to win time, my Lord Lieutenant should, as of himself, cause somebody to speak with Glencarn, "that he may the more largely open his stomach." |
As to the Chief Justice's letter, the Council should be written to with speed to move the King for the pardon, and meanwhile, with the Queen's assent, I shall cause a pardon to be drawn and take order for their conveyance hence. James Newcher, as Mr. Sewster tells me, being horsed here to follow him, took another way and escaped. Encloses a letter from Sir Edw. Boughton touching Ap Henry. Is glad that the Queen has "some good news with the other melancholy matters." Kingston, in haste, this Tuesday. | |
P.S.—"I require your Lordships to despatch the letter this night for the Egyptians, and also th'other to the Council of Calays for the ridding of them out of the King's Majesty's pale there." | |
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.: ixo Septembris 1544. | |
9 Sept. | 207. The Council with the Queen to the Council with the King. |
R. O, | Enclose, by the Queen's command, letters and advertisements received this day from the North. Where Glincarn in his letters desires to have some men sent to him, they forbear to write to the lord Lieutenant therein until the King's pleasure is known. Lewd persons naming themselves Egiptians, who have long wandered in this realm, were lately apprehended for robberies about Huntingdon, and I, the lord Chancellor, sent commission to the lord Chief Justice and others for the arraigning of such of them as could be proved felons, and also wrote that some of them who were reported to be Englishmen "should be well whipped like vagabonds and so remitted to their countries" and the rest sent to London to be conveyed out of the realm. Thereupon two of them were arraigned and found guilty of felony. Offer of 300l was then made for their pardon, whereupon the lord Chief Justice stayed the execution and wrote to know the Queen's pleasure. As the process seemed to be a good example and it would be hard to attain this money otherwise, two pardons were sealed, to be shown by the lord Chief Justice but not delivered until he had received the money and learnt the King's pleasure. Having this day received other letters from him showing that the money is delivered, they report the premises, and beg the King to extend his pardon to the felons. "We have taken such order that all the lewd people of this sort shalbe despatched out of the realm with all diligence, and doubt not but this example will make that neither they nor any other like will much covet hereafter to come hither." Oking, 9 Sept. 1544. Siyned by Canterbury, Wriothesley, Westminster and Petre. |
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. | |
R. O. | 2. Corrected draft of the above in Petre's hand. |
Pp. 3. Endd. | |
9 Sept. | 208. Gunpowder. |
R. O. | Memorandum of delivery into the ship Clement, of London, 9 Sept. 36 Hen. VIII., of 2½ lasts of fine corne powder, 4 lasts of coarse corne powder and 23½ lasts of serpyntyn powder. |
P. 1. | |
9 Sept. | 209. Norfolk, Russell and Cheyney to the Council. |
R. O. | According to the King's command to me, the treasurer of his house, we have sent you the Spaniardes, desiring that they may be returned as soon as may be; for without them we have not of other hacquebuttiers above 160; and what a rebuke it would be to have our men "bett out of the trenchys" we refer to your Lordships. Camp before Monstrell, 9 Sept. Signed. |
P. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd.: 1544. | |
10 Sept. | 210. Deserters. |
Harl. MS. 442. f. 206. B. M. |
Proclamation by Katharine, Queen and Regent, for the examination of persons who have returned from the King's army in France and the punishment of such as have insufficient passports to do so. Westm., 10 Sept. 36 Hen. VIII. |
Modern copy, pp. 2. Headed as addressed to the mayor and sheriffs of London. | |
Soc. of Ant. Procl., ii. 139. |
2. Another modern copy. |
P. 1. | |
10 Sept. | 211. Shrewsbury and Others to the Queen and Council. |
Add. MS. 32,655, f. 178. B. M. Hamilton Papers, ii., No. 319. |
Enclose letters from the Wardens of the East and West Marches, of intelligence out of Scotland. Richemond, 10 Sept. |
P.S. in Sadler's hand:—The suit which Wharton mentions in his letters is for that he understands that his bill for such lands as the King gave him, for the better maintenance of his state of baron, is stayed at the seal. He says that the King first granted him certain lands of Gisborough, and his books were passed by the late chancellor of Augmentations, to his great charge, and then stayed; and now his bill for lands in another place "is again stayed, by like means, as he thinketh." Considering the good service he has done, they beg her to favour him. Signed by Shrewsbury and Sadler. | |
P. 1. Add, Endd.: 1544. | |
Sept. | 212. The Council with the Queen to Paget. |
R. O. | Upon information of the bp. of Bath's great substance the King wrote to him for the loan of 3,000l., and, for the better inducing of him thereto, we sent the letters by Sir Thomas Arundell, who at his return declared that the Bp., denying that he had any such store as was reported, confessed to having 1,000l. in angels "after the old accompt" and 200l.or 300l. more in ready money, and also plate to as much value as all the money, and promised to "show himself a good and a frank subject." We conceived thereupon that he would consider the King's earnest request as appertained; but he despatched his servant with letters to the King and sent Sir John Williams 1,000 mks. in plate and money, only 200l. of it in money, "and, being his servant so sent over, referred a knave for answer unto us. We, charging him somewhat for that contrary to the laws he had passed the seas without licence, did nevertheless address him towards his master, willing him to return and appear before us the first of this present, hoping that his master would thereupon stretch a point and, at this need, break his hoard, though it were much against his appetite. His man hath returned at his days and brought with him letters which we send unto you herewith, whereunto such answer being by us made as you shall perceive by the copy of the same, he hath again replied; but no more money will be had but five hundreth marks at such time as you shall perceive by his letters, which at this present we send also unto you." As we think that he proceeds very unkindly, and that his servant, who is a man of substance, has forfeited all his goods by passing the seas without licence, we stay him here until the King's pleasure be known. The state of the Bp., for sending his servant, "some of his Grace's learned counsel doubt." Beg to know the King's pleasure soon. |
Enclose a letter directed to the King from Garret, the goldsmith, "and also a bill for the Lady Bryan's annuity." | |
Draft, pp. 2. Endd.: A mynute to Mr. Paget, and not sent,–––––––(blank) Septemb. 1544. | |
Sept 10. | 213. Francis I. and Charles V. |
Dumont Corps universal, iv. ii., 287. |
Francis I's commission to Admiral d'Annebault, Secretary Bayart and Maitre Charles de Nully to treat with the Emperor's deputies for peace, and meanwhile to conclude a truce and such alliances as they see fit, either between the children of Francis and the Emperor or others. To this end the Emperor and his deputies to have safe-conduct for despatch of necessary messengers or other personages through French territory. Paris, 10 Sept. 1544. |
French. |