Elizabeth: October 1574

Calendar of State Papers Foreign: Elizabeth, Volume 10, 1572-1574. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1876.

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October 1574

Oct. 5. 1573. Instructions to Lord North, in special embassage to the French King.
1. To communicate these instructions to the ambassador resident, of whom he would do well to understand how things have heretofore passed, that he may be better able to frame his doings in this service. To declare to the King that as they found the late King a good neighbour and ally, the Queen would have great sorrow not to find like affection in him. She has understood from his letters and those of his mother that he desires greatly the continuance of their friendship, and minding to leave nothing undone that may tend to the firm continuance of the same, has sent him (Lord North) to congratulate him that it has pleased God to call him to that dignity, and that he is safely arrived into his realm, after so long, painful, and dangerous journey. If he understand that the Queen's advice in persuading the King to grow in unity and accord with his subjects will be accepted in good part, and will advance the same, he shall declare that she is right sorry to understand the continuance and increase of troubles in his realm, tending to its great ruin and destruction, and wishes that the crown that has long languished in civil troubles may by his discreet government be restored to its former and ancient quietness. She doubts not if he lay before his eyes the great mischief and enormities that have happened, and are like to happen through the continuance of the troubles, that God will incline his heart to take the counsel of his unfeigned friends and allies. If he say it is not honourable for princes to capitulate with their subjects, or permit diversity of religion, or that large offers have been made to them of the religion which they refuse to accept, he is to declare to him how much more honourable it would be for him to remit part of that worldly respect of honour, for the benefit of his realm and all Christendom, and to think that the true honour of a loving prince is to recover his subjects rather by mildness than the sword. She would have him call to remembrance the example of the King Catholic, who grew to composition with the Moors, a people barbarous and enemies to Christ and his religion; and of Charles the Seventh, who sought to capitulate with the Duke of Burgundy his vassal, but accorded him divers countries, sums of money, and other things. That the permission of diversity of religion leads not to the unquietness that is pretended, he may behold in the estate of the empire, the kingdom of Poland, and other hereditary dominions of the Emperor through which he has of late passed. In her own realm, though she permit but one exercise of religion, the same is established by the common consent of the three estates of the realm in Parliament, and had Parliament thought the permission of both religions necessary, and the same had been established with her consent, she would never have violated the same. Why they of the religion refuse without greater assurance such offers as he made to them, she takes to proceed for that the edicts of the late King were not as well observed as his intention, through factions and partialities that reigned among his subjects in the time of his minority, nor the execution of justice so equally administered as had been requisite. She doubts not that peace being made, justice equally administered to all parties, and offenders on both sides punished, he will be able to reduce his kingdom to as flourishing an estate as heretofore it has been.
Before his repair to the King he is to procure some secret conference with the ambassadors of the Princes of the Empire, and signify to them that she understands how much their masters desire her to join with them in recommending peace, and has therefore appointed him to confer with them in that behalf, and is to know how they have proceeded and what answer they have received.
Is to declare to the King that she earnestly recommends Montmorency to him, for she always found the late Constable his father and him well inclined to the continuance of the good amity between the realms, and as she has found De Cosse the same, and a faithful servant to his master, she cannot but in honour also recommend him. She would advise the King to beware of hasty and violent counsels against them, by the execution whereof in the beginning of his reign his subjects may be alienated from him. In the opening of these things he is to use as good, effectual, and circumspect words as he may, assuring him the Queen's recommendations proceed only from goodwill towards him, and great desire for his honour and profit. He is to pray the King to have a princely consideration for the Lady Charlotte de Bourbon, daughter of the Duke of Montpensier, and that her relief may be accomplished according as the honour and nearness of their blood requires.
2. To the Queen Mother he is to condole the death of the late King, and congratulate her on the arrival and succession of him that now is. To recommend the two Marshals and the Lady Charlotte, as the King, in respect of her great experience in matters of government, will be counselled and directed by her.
3. He is to demand access to the late King's wife, and tell her the great sorrow the Queen has conceived of her late husband's death, and to make her offer of the Queen's friendship when it may stand her in any stead.
4. He shall use some ordinary salutation towards the Duke of Alençon and the King and Queen of Navarre.
5. Before the taking of his leave he shall deal as earnestly as he can with the King and Queen Mother for some good order to be taken touching divers robberies and spoils committed upon the Queen's subjects trafficking in France and Spain, and who, notwithstanding the late King's letters and recommendations, have been slain, or compelled to return home without restitution. He is to take the advice of the ambassador therein, who is well acquainted with the said causes.
6. If the King or Queen Mother shall fall into any mention of the Queen of Scots as misliking the Queen's dealing towards her, he may answer that she cannot but marvel much, considering she has from time to time acquainted them with her dangerous proceeding towards her. If they could weigh the Queen of Scots' dealing in their own person, they would find her usage to be such as no prince would use but herself, who is perhaps more inclined to pity than reason or good policy would. She cannot but think that the misliking proceeds not altogether from themselves, but from the solicitation of such as, transported with partiality in her case, as care not, so they may further her, what becomes of the good amity between France and England.
7. If he shall be demanded of the King of the Queen's inclination to continue the league made with the late King, he may answer, that when he shall demand the continuance of the same, he doubts not but that he shall receive such answer as shall be to his countenance.
Pp. 112/3.
1574. Draft of the same.
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1575. Copy of the same.
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Oct. 5. 1576. Private Memorial to Lord North touching his Charge.
To remember to recommend to the King and Queen Mother Nutshawe's and Warcup's cases. To procure the stay of the "Prince" and the "Bear," two ships which spoiled divers of the merchants last summer, and the apprehension of those that were the heads in the same. To forbear to recommend the two Marshals' causes till his second access, unless he see great cause to the contrary. To give Madame Montmorency secretly to understand that he has charge to recommend her husband, and therefore would be glad to understand what course it were best to take for the furtherance thereof. To inform himself of the disposition and present state of the Court there, as who are greatest, and how they are inclined to the amity of England, and whether the Queen Mother has that credit she had with the other son. To inform himself who be addicted to the amity of Spain, and who to England, to the end he may order his talk accordingly. If the Count de Retz continue that favour and credit with the King he enjoyed with the last, then were it expedient to visit him, and use speech to him showing him the great reputation he has gotten here with the Queen and the nobility by his wise direction of himself when he was here, and the honourable report he made of the Queen's entertainment, so that they account him a favourer and nourisher of the amity, and therefore the Queen gave him special charge to present her commendations. It will not be out of purpose, as of himself. to persuade him to further the peace, and that those Princes of Italy, if it be true as commonly bruited, that persuade the King to continue his wars, have more regard for the repose of Italy than the benefit of France. They think that the King would seek to recover certain members thereof that appertain to France, if he were not bridled with home troubles. If the King continue the wars, it were like to engender a great jealousy and suspicion in the Princes Protestant of Europe that the bruit of the Holy League is a matter of truth, which would breed a dangerous division in Europe, whereof the Turk should receive greatest profit. Therefore men think it were better for the King to make a dishonourable peace, than continue a war to the ruin of his estate. It is to be suspected that those Princes of Italy who persuade him to the continuance of the wars, do it not without the practice and privity of Spain, who having his own house afire is loth to have his neighbour's quenched. If the King have any desire to recover what appertains to him in Italy he never had like advantage of time that now he has. It is hard to judge what speech is to be delivered to the Count, unless it be deciphered how he be affected to Spain. Some of these reasons delivered to the Queen Mother as from himself would not a little further the peace; it were, however, unfit to use them if he decipher she affect any marriage for the King either with Spain or the house of Austria. This kind of speech may be used towards any of quality that is a good Frenchman and not poisoned with Spanish pensions. To Mauvisière he shall not do amiss to use him such speech as to induce him to believe him more French than Spanish, for that the Frenchman is a good fellow, frank of nature, and most agreeable to the disposition of an Englishman, whereas the Spaniard is proud, and so insolent as naturally Englishmen abhor him, and that therefore you think the amity of France more necessary than that of Spain. He would think that the same would take good effect if two lets could be removed, the persecuting them of the religion, and the favouring over much of the Guises. If Mauvisière say it is dishonourable for a King to capitulate with his subjects he knows how to answer him. For the second, he may be told that if the King prefer a particular friendship he bears one member of his realm before the amity of England, he cannot but show himself as a Prince more transported with private and particular passion, than directed by that general zeal he ought to bear to his estate. He may also be told, a thing not improper to be used to men of the best judgment and towards the Queen Mother herself, that the great mischief in that realm has grown of the overgreatness of some Houses which have drawn them into particular quarrels. Such mischief cannot be removed till the heads of such Houses be ordered to retire from the Court. It were better that a few were aggrieved than a realm ruined. This manner of speech he shall use to such as he shall discover not to be affected to the house of Guise. If he find the house of Guise bear the great sway in Court, it will be necessary for him, after the Spanish Ambassador has been to visit him, to seek some apt means to have frequent conference with him, to nourish a jealousy of some strait amity between England and Spain.
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Oct. 6. 1577. Traffic with the Low Countries.
"A declaration how, notwithstanding all ancient leagues and privileges between Flanders and England, and the last conclusion at Bristol in August 1574 between Her Majesty's commissioners and King Philip's, yet our merchants have no free traffic thither, and of late also had two of their ships stayed by arrest at Sluse."
Endd. Lat. Pp. 1⅓.
Oct. 7. 1578. Restoration of Territory to the Duke of Savoy.
Letters patent from the King of France to the Sieur Charles de Biragues, commanding him to restore the towns of Pignerol, Savillan, and La Perouse to the Duke of Savoy, or to whomsoever he shall depute to receive them, and discharging him from his office of governor.—Lyons, 7 Oct. 1574. Signed.
Copy. Endd. Fr. Pp. 2.
Oct. 1579. Other letters patent to the same effect.
Copy. Endd. Fr. Pp. 2.
Oct. 7. 1580. Discharge to the Chancellor of France on affixing the seal to the above letters patent.
Copy. Endd. Fr. P. 1.
Oct. 8. 1581. Traffic with the Low Countries.
Copy of the declaration of 6th October touching the arrest of the two English ships at Sluys; with the reply of the King of Spain's commissioners promising that enquiry shall be made into the circumstances of the case, but pointing out that the subjects of the Queen of England cannot be suffered to transgress the King's edicts prohibiting traffic and communications with his rebels and enemies.—8 Oct. 1574.
Endd. Lat. Pp. 3½.
Oct. 15. 1582. H. Killegrew to Walsingham.
Thought to have seen him before now, but his harvest is not all in the barn, which causes his absence for a while longer. If the Regent deal so hardly with the Earl of Argyle, fears some inconvenience will ensue thereof, wishes it might be prevented by the Queen's mediation. Beseeches to know what he thinks convenient and fit for him to write to the Regent. Thanks him for his good gelding.—Hendon, 15 Oct. Signed.
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Oct. 17. 1583. H. Killegrew to Walsingham.
Beseeches him to deal with the Queen to write to the Regent according to the request in the Countess of Argyle's letters. The Regent deals hardly, which he is heartily sorry to see. Knows not what to write to any in that country till he may speak with him.—London, 17 Oct. Signed.
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Oct. 23. 1584. Dr. Dale to Sir Thomas Smith and Francis Walsingham.
1. The King has lingered in this town these 20 days wholly in suspense upon the siege of Pouzin. Hearing that it was forsaken, and that Marshal Bellegarde was entered, he made preparation in all haste towards Avignon. The chief cause of his resolution that way was to practise on M. Danville, with whom the Duke of Savoy has dealt very honourably, and sent him into his government with good and sufficient conduct, so that he got into Beaucaire and Montpelier before the King was aware of it. His brother Thon appoints to come to him from Geneva, with such men as he can gather. The King sent the Cardinal of Bourbon to Avignon, under colour he is the Pope's legate in that town, to win M. Danville by fair promises to submit himself, or at least to come to the court. M. Danville wrote to the King that he was ready to render such towns as were at his commandment, his only request was that his brother Montmorency might come to his indifferent trial; he thought the example of his brother too dangerous to come to the court, where they who seek the ruin of his house have overmuch credit. M. de Retz was also sent, partly to levy men in Provence, partly to use some of his eloquence to Danville. While these things were in doing the Lieutenant of Montpelier laid a train to surprise Danville, which he discovered and apprehended the lieutenant, and it is said has put him to execution, and declared himself openly. It is said the Vicomte de Turenne and others are joined with him. This matter has changed the determination of the Court, and Marshal Bellegarde is come up from the camp at Pouzin, and declares such difficulties to the King that the resolution is again to remain in this town, and, if they do remove, to go towards Paris. The loss of Pouzin little discourages them of the religion, because they had leisure to withdraw themselves into the mountains, whither neither horsemen nor footmen can follow them. They are ready for the defence of any other town that shall be besieged. The King's army is not in any way encouraged with this conquest, being beaten with wet and weather, and divers hurt, slain, and sick. Many slunk away, and at the end nothing the more rid of their enemies. Upon the entry of the town there was like to be a great mutiny between the reiters, Swiss, and Italians, and so between them the town was burnt. The King has but a small number of French soldiers thereabouts. The Prince of Condé has been at Berne and Zurich, and has gone back to Strasburg and has gotten some store of money. The King moved the Cardinal of Bourbon to have gone to the Prince at Geneva; it is thought that he would have been induced to have forgot both his cardinalship and the state of that town to attrap his nephew, if the Prince had tarried there long. It is thought that Lord North's coming is deferred upon M. Meru being in England, whom the King doubted had bred some alteration with the Queen. The Italians do not agree with the reiters, nor the reiters with the Swiss, in anything saving in spoiling of this country. There has been a mutiny or two between them already. The Italians slip away daily. The great troop of reiters is severed, some into Picardy, some into Champagne, and some into Poitou, spoiling everywhere as they go. There is much talk that La Noüe is like to get the isle of Marennes or Brouage, or both. The King perceiving these difficulties has published a new edict, more ample and with larger promises. There is much debating in council upon the rendering of the towns in Piedmont, yet the King has sent a secretary thither with open commission for rendering them. The Count Baillen has been here with the King to congratulate him. It is trusted that the Queen and the King of Spain are fully agreed. Monsieur and the King of Navarre have leisure to play at hand ball, and to shoot for any affairs they are troubled withal. They as much mislike their usage as they have done in times past, and are as much doubted as ever they were. It does not appear that the French are anything sorry for the loss of La Goletta, which was lost for lack of men. The new fort of Tunis holds as yet. The captain of the "Prince" and of Strozzi's ships are sent for to answer such complaints as have been made against them. Has dealt for their stay till he be instructed by Lord North in what terms to deal for the merchants. The "Ours" that did much harm is lost upon the rocks, and the rest lay all the fault upon her.—Lyons, 23 Sept. 1574. Signed.
2. P.S.—Has advertisement that Lord North arrived in Paris the 16th of this present.
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Oct. 23. 1585. Thomas Wilkes to Francis Walsingham.
Has written to the Earl of Leicester touching the state of the Duke of Alençon and the King of Navarre. By the experience of the person he gave him special charge to sift and try out, finds he has been made an instrument to abuse them; it is now so gross that it is palpable. He has lately accused an Almain that was wont to frequent them, to have been in England and to have been a practiser not only with them but to have dealt in Germany against the state there, which is false. Makes relation of all he can learn from them of Limoges, by whom unadvisedly this Almain has been examined. Fears he abuses the Regent, it were well he were looked to.—Lyons, 23 Oct. 1574. Signed.
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Oct. 23. 1586. Dr. Dale to Francis Walsingham.
There has been much expectation of Lord North's coming, for it has been supposed by his long tarrying that the Queen had hearkened another way. Has been with child himself to learn somewhat thereof. The rigorous way the King has begun has lost him his money and his subjects' hearts withal. —Lyons, 23 Oct. Signed.
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