The household below stairs: Pastry 1660-c. 1805

Office-Holders in Modern Britain: Volume 11 (Revised), Court Officers, 1660-1837. Originally published by University of London, London, 2006.

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Pastry 1660–c. 1805

The pastry provided bakemeats, pies, tarts and some sauces for the royal tables. (fn. 1) In 1660 the establishment of the pastry consisted of a clerk and a sergeant, appointed by royal warrant, and yeomen, grooms, and children, appointed by lord steward's warrant. In 1662 the remuneration of the clerk was fixed at wages of £6 13s 4d and board wages of £54 15s, plus poundage on debentures, which yielded about £45 per annum by the beginning of the eighteenth century. Wages rose to £11 8s 1 1/2d and board wages to £80 in 1664, but both varied with subsequent establishments during the remainder of the reign of Charles II. Between 1685 and 1689 the office was combined with that of clerk of the bakehouse, poultry, scullery and woodyard with a salary of £91 13s 4d. In 1689 the remuneration was fixed at wages of £6 13s 4d and board wages of £73 6s 8d. The office was combined with that of clerk of the scullery and woodyard from 1702 and abolished in 1761. (fn. 2)

The office of sergeant was held jointly between 1660 and 1662 and singly thereafter. In the latter year the remuneration was fixed at wages of £11 8s 1½d and board wages of £24 6s 8d. There were subsequent variations in the amount of board wages ranging up to £54 15s. The office was eliminated on the death of Charles II in 1685. (fn. 3)

Three yeomen were appointed in 1660, the third being named supernumerary on the establishment of 1662. One served during the reign of James II, two from 1689 to 1727 and one thereafter. In 1662 the remuneration was fixed at wages of £5 and board wages of £20 5s 6¾d. The latter fluctuated throughout the reign of Charles II, rising as high as £45 12s 6d. From 1685 remuneration totaled £50, divided in 1689 into wages of £5 and board wages of £45. A yeoman of the mouth to the Queen served 1662–1664. (fn. 4)

Three grooms were appointed by the end of 1661. One of these was made supernumerary by the end of 1662, but was restored to ordinary service in 1668. All three were made supernumerary in 1685. Two served 1689–1761 and one thereafter. In 1662 the remuneration was fixed at wages of £2 13s 4d and board wages of £20 5s 6¾d. The latter fluctuated on the establishments of Charles II between this figure and £40 before settling in 1689 at £37 6s 8d. (fn. 5)

The remaining offices of yeoman and groom were proposed for abolition in 1782 but continued to be filled until about 1805 after which the department ceased to exist. (fn. 6)

Three children were appointed in 1660. The Establishment of 1 December 1662 provided wages of £2 and board wages of £18 5s but reduced one child to supernumerary status at £2 and £9 2s 6d, respectively. All three were made supernumerary in 1664, but a single child's position was revived in ordinary in 1668 (with wages of £2 and board wages of £15 4s 2d), and a second in 1671. Board wages rose to £36 10s (for each of two children?) in 1674; and fell again to £22 6s 8d in 1680. The place was made supernumerary again under James II, revived for a single holder under William III at £2, and board wages of £33 in 1689 (with one supernumerary child of the pastry at wages of £2 and board wages of £13); eliminated under Anne; but revived again at the accession of George II. It was finally abolished by the Establishment of 1 July 1761. (fn. 7)

The furner was appointed by the lord steward, and first established at £30 per annum in 1689. This remained the position's remuneration until its abolition in 1715. The salsaryman was also appointed by the lord steward. He received board wages of £9 2s 6d on the Establishment of 1 October 1664. This rose to £13 13s 9d in 1674 and £18 5s in 1685. The last establishment named a supernumerary at £12 5s. The salsaryman was paid £30 per annum from 1689 until the abolition of the office in 1761. (fn. 8)

The pastry cook at Carlton House was appointed by warrant of the lord steward. Initially, he made £221 per annum. This was reduced by 1824 to £140, but raised by 1832 to £160. The assistant pastry cooks at Carlton House were initially paid £50 per annum. This was raised to £104 10 s. by July 1836. (fn. 9)

Clerk 1660–1761

1660 31 Dec. Hubbert, A.
1661 27 Nov. Webb, T
1679 12 Nov. Gascoigne, H.
1683 24 July Thompson, J.
1685 13 Apr. Toll, C.
1689 20 Mar. Manning, R.
1690 1 May Perkins, M.
1691 8 Sept. Nanfan, R.
1691 13 Nov. Durrell, H.
1702 30 June Gretton, A.
1707 14 July Shaw, J.
1713 18 May Gibson, S.
1714 26 July Parsons, E.
1752 15 Sept. Parsons, P.
1760 15 Dec. Reynolds, J.H.

Supernumerary Clerk 1661–1683; 1685–1688

1661 11 Oct. Roane, R.
1674 23 Mar. Gascoigne, H.
1676 29 Apr. Thompson, J.
1685 1 Dec. Thompson, J.

Sergeant 1660–1685

1660 16 Aug. Blunt, A. (joint)
1660 16 Aug. Delroy, J. (joint)
1662 16 Jan. Tooley, R.
1666 23 Feb. Astley, W.
1676 5 Nov. Lamb, P.

Yeomen 1660–c. 1805

By 1660 Tooley, R.
1660 24 Sept. Collins, R.
1660 16 Oct. Ashton, F.
1660 16 Oct. Lamb, P.
1662 17 Jan. Delroy, A.
1662 5 Apr. Fox, E. (of the Mouth, to the Queen)
1670 24 Mar. Heydon, F.
1678 18 Dec. Allen, J.
1683 14 June Adams, H.
1685 22 Apr. Lamb, P.
1689 26 Mar. Brown, S.
1701 14 May Salter, T.
1709 2 Mar. Faverall, J.
1730 12 Jan. Brown, T.
1745 1 Oct. Smith, J.
1753 26 Jan. Galloway, T.
1760 16 Apr. Waller, W.
1761 1 July Roberts, W.
1795 28 Jan. Smith, J.

Supernumerary Yeomen 1662–1670; 1686–1688

1662 1 Dec. [?] (fn. 10)
1664 1 Oct. Delroy, A.
1664 1 Oct. Fox, E.
1686 1 Feb. Fox, E.

Grooms 1660–1685

1660 16 Aug. Heydon, F.
1661 3 Mar. Cragg, J.
1661 11 Aug. Delroy, A.
1662 17 Jan. Allen, J.
1670 24 Mar. Adams, H.
1671 15 Sept. Brown, S.
1678 18 Dec. Murray, W.
1683 14 June Field, T.

Supernumerary Grooms 1662–1668; 1686–1688

1662 1 Dec. [?] (fn. 10)
1662 1 Dec. [?] (fn. 10)
1664 1 Oct. Heydon, F.
1686 1 Feb. Brown, S.
1686 1 Feb. Murray, W.
1686 1 Feb. Field, T.

Grooms 1689–c. 1805

1689 20 Mar. Heard, T.
1689 15 May Murray, W.
1690 24 Oct. Salter, T.
1695 1 Oct. Allen, E.
1701 14 May Brown, T.
1727 1 July Smith, J.
1730 12 Jan. Smith, T.
1736 1 Nov. Galloway, T.
1745 1 Oct. Ross, A.
1747 1 Jan. Waller, W.
1753 26 Jan. Roberts, W.
1760 16 Apr. Towse, T.
1760 15 Dec. Potts, J.
1790 Smith, J.
1795 28 Jan. Ritchie, C.

Children 1660–1702; 1727–1761

1660 4 Oct. Brown, S.
1660 13 Oct. Adams, H.
1660 16 Nov. Allen, J.
1662 26 Mar. Lamb, P., jun.
1668 1 Oct. Adams, H.
[1670 c.24 Mar.] Browne, S.
1671 15 Sept. Murray, W.
1674 30 June Lamb, P., jun.
1676 10 Nov. Field, T.
1683 14 June Allen, E.
1683 14 June Herd, T.
1689 27 Apr. Salter, T.
1690 22 Nov. Sheppard, J.
1727 1 July Allen, E.
1729 24 May Smith, T.
1730 12 Jan. Galloway, T.
1736 1 Nov. Ross, A.
1745 1 Oct. Waller, W.
1747 1 Jan. Roberts, W.
1753 26 Jan. Johnson, T.
1759 29 Apr. Towse, T.
1760 16 Apr. Galloway, J.

Supernumerary Children 1662–1683; 1686–1695

1662 1 Dec. [?Lamb, P., jun.] (fn. 10)
1664 1 Oct. Adams, H.
1664 1 Oct. Browne, S.
1669 27 Jan. Murray, W. (ext.)
1673 30 June Field, T.
1674 30 June Murray, W.
1676 16 Dec. Allen, E.
1686 1 Feb. Allen, E.

Furner 1689–1815

1689 20 Mar. Heard, J
1712 8 Jan. Murray, W.
1729 14 Mar. Steward, W.
1744 15 June Waller, W.
1745 1 Oct. Hill, Joseph
By 1761 Breadcutt, T.
1778 1 Dec. Doughty, T.

Salsaryman 1664–1761

1664 1 Oct. Whitfield, R.
1685 1 July Heard, T.
1689 20 Mar. Parks, W.
1691 25 June Brand, R.
1708 9 July Burden, J.
1727 1 July Towers, J.
1729 27 Oct. Northey, E.
1743 1 Feb. Hodsoll, E.
1749 1 Apr. Bellwood, R.
1749 1 June Elmis, J.

Supernumerary Salsaryman 1685–1688

1685 1 July Parks, W.

Pastry Cook at Carlton House 1812–1837

1812 19 Feb. Le Clerk, F.
1822 5 Apr. Braud, H.
1827 5 July Lloyd, A. F.

Assistant Pastry Cook at Carlton House 1822–1837

1822 5 Apr. Morton, M.
1830 16 July Bowen, T. G.

Footnotes

  • 1. See PSBC, p. 14; Beattie, pp. 88–9.
  • 2. LS 13/31, f. 12v; LS 13/34, f. 11; LS 13/35, f. 11; LS 13/36, f. 14; LS 13/37, f. 11v; LS 13/38, ff. 11, 13v; LS 13/39, pp. 22, 28; LS 13/43, f. 13; LS 13/55; Bucholz, p. 318 n. 100.
  • 3. LS 13/31, f. 12v; LS 13/34, f. 12v; LS 13/35, f. 12v; LS 13/252, f. 191; LS 13/37, f. 11v.
  • 4. LS 13/31, ff. 12v, 17; LS 13/34, ff. 12v, 26; LS 13/35, f. 12v; LS 13/36, f. 14; LS 13/37, f. 11v; LS 13/38, f. 11; LS 13/39, p. 22; LS 13/49, p. 33; LS 13/55.
  • 5. LS 13/31, ff. 12v, 17; LS 13/34, f. 12v; LS 13/35, f. 12v; LS 13/36, f. 14; LS 13/37, f. 11v; LS 13/38, f. 11; LS 13/39, p. 22; LS 13/55.
  • 6. RK (1805), p. 117; LS 13/180, f. 144.
  • 7. LS 13/7 f. 11; LS 13/31, ff. 12v, 17; LS 13/34, f. 26; LS 13/35, f. 12v; LS 13/36, f. 14; LS 13/37, f. 11v.; LS 13/38, f. 11; LS 13/39, pp. 22, 28; LS 13/43, f. 13; LS 13/49, p. 33; LS 13/55. In 1664 the supernumeraries' board wages were raised to £10 per annum: LS 13/34, f. 26. The second child is not listed in the establishments of 1674 and 1680, but there is a continuous run of warrants of appointment.
  • 8. LS 13/34, f. 13; LS 13/36, f. 14; LS 2/38, ff. 11, 13v; LS 13/39, p. 22; LS 2/33.
  • 9. LS 2/43, f. 2; LS 2/50; LS 2/58, f. 2; LS 2/62, f. 2.
  • 10. The Establishment of 1 Dec. 1662 lists, but does not name, a supernumerary yeoman, two supernumerary grooms, and a supernumerary child of the pastry: LS 13/31, f. 17.