House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 02 May 1604 (2nd scribe)

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Mercurii, 2o Die Maii, 1604

Assert Lands.

ASSERTS: - To-morrow, with Counsel in the House, though the King's Counsel do not attend.

Inmates, &c.

The Bill against Inmates in London, Southwark, and Westminster, adjourned till Friday.

Downes' Estate.

The Bill for the Sale of the Lands of Edward Downes Esquire for Payment of his Debts, secondly read, and committed to Sir John Heigham, Sir Rich. Browne, Sir Charles Cornwallys, Sir Rob. Wingfield, Sir Edw. Lewknor, Sir Jerome Horsey, Sir John Peyton, Sir Wm. Cornwallys, Mr. Nath Bacon, Serjeant Hubbard, Serjeant Tanfield, Burgesses of Norwich, Sir Geo. Fleetwood, Sir Rob. Townsend, Mr. Hitcham, the Queen's Attorney : - Saturday, Exchequer Chamber.

Shrewsbury Return.

Sir Rob. Wingfield moveth, touching the second Return of Mr. Barker and Mr. Tate, for Shrewsbury. - The Sheriff refuseth to accept of the Return.

The Under-sheriff to be presently sent for. - Not found.

Royal Assent without dissolving Parliament.

Mr. Fra. Moore, Sir John Shirley, Mr. Winch, Mr. Holt, Mr. Hyde, Mr. Fuller, Sir Rob. Wroth, to consider of Sir Tho. Shirleye's Precedents, and of such others, as may be for the King's Royal Assent, without dissolving the Parliament.

Marriages.

Sir Robert Wroth bringeth, with Amendments, from the Committee, the Bill, touching double Marriage: Ordered to be ingrossed, upon the Question.

Prescription.

The Proviso, in the Bill, touching the Limitation of Prescription, brought in from the Committee, by Mr. Moore, with some Amendments; and the Bill, upon the Question, being rejected, theProviso never put to Question.

Sir T. Areskin.

The Counsel of the Tenants, in Sir Tho. Areskin's Bill, to be heard, upon the second Reading of the Bill.

Bills read.

Twelve Bills, Yesterday in the Afternoon read, now published to the House by Mr. Speaker.

Members sent for.

Upon the Purpose of Debate in Sir Rob. Vernon's Case, all the Members of the House, in Westminster Hall, sent for by the Serjeant.

Alehouses.

The Bill for the Reformation of Abuses in Alehouses, late converted into Inns: - The second Reading, and committed to the former Committees for the Bills of Alehouses,

Saturni, 21o Die Aprilis, 1604, and are appointed to meet on Friday, in the Middle Temple Hall.

These added to the former Committee: Sir Geo. Fleetwood, Mr. Alford, Sir Wm. Burlacy, Mr. Johnson, Sir Tho. Holcroft, Sir Edm. Bowyer, Sir Jo. Thynne.

Union with Scotland.

Union. -

Sir Fra. Bacon: - Some Things agreed: Some only moved. -

1. Whether a Commission should go forth: - Admitted.

2. Whether a compounded Nomination, or a separate:

- Agreed to be severally.

3. Number, neither over-great, nor over-small: - Agreed, a competent Number. -

The Quality : A Mixture of Common Lawyers, Civilians, Men of State, Merchants, &c. -

The first, Commission ; and then Commissioners. -

The Commission to begin the first of October.

The Place, at London: The Room, Camera Depicta.

The Return, to the next Session of this Parliament.

The Matter, Two Parts: The Commission plain and general: TheTenor, liberal. - Consult, treat, and report. - Things and Matters. -

1. Ex unanimi consensu, agreed, the Commissioners.

2. Agreed in Part, distinctly.

3. Not agreed : All to be reported distinctly.

The Act. - Four Things to be inserted : 1. Acknowlegement..... God's Providence, great Blessings, in the Union already made.

The Cause, Contrariety and Disconvenience of some particular Laws in the several Kingdoms.

Recital of his Majesty's faithful Promise, not to alter the Laws, &c.

A Proviso, that Scotland should make a Cession. -

Exception to Words.

" Union:" - -Absolute dico, Union not good. - Good, to give him the Adjective. -

"Intreat:" - "Solving." -

" One Allegiance :" - " Obedience " for it.

" Fundamental Laws." - " Common Laws, and Statutes." -

The last Point: Expedition in framing of a Bill. - Six of this House, Four of their House, with Judges Assistants. -

Purveyance Conference. - Thursday.

The Lords, not as Privy Counsellors, but as Committees, in that Conference, -

Copies to be delivered to some of the Committees. - A Month yet the Parliament to continue.

Letter from the King.

Mr. Hyde, Sir Rob Wingsfield, both move, that the King may be informed, how we take this last Letter to Heart.

Sir Wm. Stroud, out of his Fear, that the King was misinformed : - Every Man that hath Access to the King to purge himself of Tales to the King, or to any Counsellor ; whereby he hath been mistaken, or mis-informed.

Sir Wm. Stroud explaineth himself, - every Man, that hath Access.

Put to Question, whether Sir Fr. Hastings, or Sir Rich. Luson, should stand up : Resolved, Sir Fr. Hastings. -

To sift out the Detractor. - Wisheth, that we should address ourselves to the King, to satisfy him.

Sir Fr. Bacon: - Motos praestat componere fluctus. - Qui dolorem habent, et non sensum, iis mens aegrotat. - Nil adversus veritatem, sed pro veritate.

Mr. Speaker to go to the King.

Mr. Speaker to go to the King, and satisfy him.

Mr. Hyde, Sir Rob. Wroth, Sir Fr. Hastings, Sir Rob. Wingfield, Mr. Yelverton, Sir Edw. Mountague, Sir Edwyn Sands, Sir Geo. Moore, Sir Wm. Stroud, Sir H. Mountague, to consider of the Heads of Mr. Speaker's Speech to the King, for the opening of the Grief, touching the Letter sent by him.

Tanners, &c.

The Bill, and Committees, touching Tanners, and Leather, delivered to Sir Rob. Wroth.