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The History and Proceedings of the House of Commons: Volume 5, 1713-1714. Originally published by Chandler, London, 1742.

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'Proceedings on Mr Bromley's motion', in The History and Proceedings of the House of Commons: Volume 5, 1713-1714( London, 1742), British History Online https://prod.british-history.ac.uk/commons-hist-proceedings/vol5/pp123-135 [accessed 26 November 2024].

By way of Supplement likewise to the Proceedings of this Parliament, we must farther take Notice, that the Motion which was made in the third Session, to tack the Occasional Conformity and Land-Tax Bills together, was introduced by Mr. Powley with a Speech, the Substance of which was as follows, viz.

That the Practice of Occasional Conformity was such a scandalous Hypocrisy, as was no way to be excused upon any Pretence whatsoever. That it was condemned even by the better Sort of Dissenters themselves. That the employing Persons of a different Religion from that established by Law had never been practised by any wise Government, and was not allowed even in Holland. That the Sacramental Test was appointed by the Wisdom of the Legislature, to preserve the established Church, not from Protestants, but Papists; which Church seems in as much Danger from the Dissenters at this Time, as it was from Papists when the Act was made. And this Law being so necessary, and having been twice refused in the House of Lords, the only way to have it pass is to tack it to a MoneyBill. It has been an ancient Practice to tack Bills that were for the Good of the Subject to the Money-Bills; it being reasonable, that while grievous Taxes are laid upon the People for Support of the Crown, the Crown should in return pass such Laws as are for the Benefit of the People. The great Necessity there is for the Money-Bill's passing, is rather an Argument for than against this Proceeding; for what Danger can there be that the Lords, who pretend to be such great Patriots, should rather lose the necessary Supplies, than pass an Act so requisite for Preservation of the Church? However, if we should suppose them so unreasonable, the Matter is not so bad; for it is only but proroguing the Parliament for a few Days, and then the Commons might pass the Land-Tax again without the Tack: And so he concluded with Moving, That the Occasional Conformity Bill might be tacked to the Land-Tax-Bill.'

Upon this, warm Debates followed, in which among those who opposed the Motion, Lord Cutts was pleased to say, 'The English Nation is now in the highest Consideration abroad, and if any Divisions should happen between the two Houses, it will cast a Damp upon the whole Confederacy, and give the French King almost as great an Advantage as we had gained over him at Blenheim.' After which, the Right Honourable Henry Boyle asked, 'Whether any wise Man would venture his whole Estate upon a Vote?' And answering himself in the Negative, added, 'And shall we now venture the Safety of all England, nay of all Europe upon this?' Mr. Secretary Hedges represented, 'That the Duke of Marlborough had lately concluded a Treaty with the King of Prussia for 8000 of his Men, to be employed towards the Relief of the Duke of Savoy, who was now in the most imminent Danger: That these Troops were actually on their March, upon a Credit of a Vote of this House, That they would make good her Majesty's Treaties; and that the obstructing the Money-Bill, which the Tacking would infallibly do, would put an immediate Stop to the March of those Troops, and thereby occasion the entire Ruin of the Duke of Savoy.' Sir John Hawles, the learned Sollicitor-General in King William's Reign, perceiving that many Members were ashamed of Mr. Bromley's Motion, exposed them by saying, 'That for his own Part, he had been against this Bill from the Beginning, but he wondered that those Gentlemen who had all along pretended the Church of England was on the Brink of Ruin, unless such a Bill should pass, did not pursue the only Method that might secure the passing of that Bill. I put it to the Conscience of those Gentlemen who are come over to us, added he, whether they were before satisfied as to the Reasonableness and Necessity of this Bill, since they now desert their own Friends: I wish they had voted on our Side two Years ago, for it would have saved us a great deal of Trouble, the greatest Part of the Nation a great deal of Uneasiness, and themselves the Confusion of abandoning their Party at a Pinch.' Sir Thomas Littleton, the late Speaker, said, 'Gentlemen, by the Tacking of this Bill, we mean to throw a Necessity upon the Lords to pass it; but suppose the Lords think fit to untack what we have taked, and to acquaint us that they are ready to pass the Money-Bill, but will consider of the other, pray whose Fault will the Nation account it to be, that the Queen's Service is retarded?' Upon the whole, this Motion was over-ruled, as may be seen Tome III. Page 375. But the Bill was carried, and afterwards rejected by the Lords, by a Majority of 71 against 50.

A LIST of those who were for and against the Tack were as follows:

For the Tack.	Against the Tack.
Bedfordshire.	Bedfordshire.
Not One.	Lord Russel Sir William Gostwick William Spencer Edward Carteret
Berkshire.	Berkshire.
Sir John Stonehouse	Richard Nevill Lord Fitzharding Richard Topham Sir Owen Buckingham Tanfield Vachell William Jennens Thomas Renda Sir Simon Harcourt
Buckinghamshire.	Buckinghamshire.
Sir Henry Porker John Drake Sir Samuel Garrard Sir James Etheridge	Sir Richard Temple Sir Edmund Denton Roger Price Charles Godfrey Fleetwood Dormer Richard Hampden Richard Crawley James Chase
Cambridgeshire.	Cambridgeshire.
Granado Pigot Arthur Annesley	Sir Rushout Cullen Henry Boyle Sir Henry Pickering Anthony Thompson
Cheshire.	Cheshire.
Sir George Warburton Sir Roger Mostyn Sir Henry Bunbury Peter Shackerly	Not One.
Cornwall.	Cornwall.
John Buller Sir Richard Vivian John Hoblin William Cory William Pole Henry Poley Charles Seymour Sir Henry Seymour Francis Scobel John Manley Joseph Sawle John Anstis James Praed John Spark	William Bridges Thomas Dodson Russel Roberts Sir John Molesworth Henry Vincent Francis Roberts Francis Godolphin Sidney Godolphin Thomas Carew James Craggs Alexander Pendarvis Hugh Boscawen William Hooker John Hicks Henry Flemming Renatus Bellot Francis Basset Sir Nicholas Morrice Samuel Rolle William Coryton Sir John Pole
Cumberland.	Cumberland.
Wilfred Lawson	Thomas Stanwix James Stanhope Thomas Lamplugh
Derbyshire.	Derbyshire.
John Curzon	Thomas Coke James Harpur Thomas Stanhope
Devonshire.	Devonshire.
Sir Edward Seymour John Snell William Seymour Thomas Coulson Arthur Champneys Nathaniel Herne Frederick Herne	Sir William Courtney Robert Rolle Charles Trelawney John Woolcomb Sir Simon Leach Thomas Northmore Nicholas Hooper Richard Edgecomb Richard Hale Sir Walter Young
Devonshire.	Devonshire.
	John Bulteel Henry Maunton Sir Thomas Lear Richard Keynel William Cowper Sir Peter King Thomas Bere Robert Burridge
Dorsetshire.	Dorsetshire.
Thomas Strangeways Thomas Chaffin Henry Thynne John Banks Richard Bingham Richard Fownes	Sir William Phippard William Jolliffe Nathaniel Napier Henry Henley John Burridge Anthony Henley Charles Churchill Alexander Pitfield Sir John Cropley Edward Nicholas Sir Thomas Ernley Thomas Erle
Durham.	Durham.
Sir Henry Bellasis	Sir Robert Eden Sir William Bowes Thomas Conyers
Essex.	Essex.
Sir Charles Barrington William Fytch John Comyns	Sir Francis Masham Sir Isaac Rebow Sir Thomas Cook Sir Thomas Daval John Ellis
Gloucestershire.	Gloucestershire.
Not One.	Maynard Colchester William Trye John Hanbury William Master Richard Dowdeswell Edmund Bray
Herefordshire.	Herefordshire.
Henry Gorges Thomas Price	James Bridges Thomas Foley Lord Coningesby Edward Harley Henry Cornwal
Hertfordshire.	Hertfordshire.
Ralph Freeman John Gape Charles Cæsar Richard Gulston	Thomas Hale George Churchill
Huntingtonshire.	Huntingtonshire.
Not One.	John Dryden William Naylor Earl of Orrery Anthony Hammond
Kent.	Kent.
Sir Francis Leigh William Cage Heneage Finch Robert Crawford	Sir Thomas Hales Henry Lee George Sayer Edward Knatchbull Thomas King
Lancashire.	Lancashire.
Thomas Leigh Orlando Bridgman	Richard Ashton Richard Fleetwood Charles Stanley Sir Cyril Wyche Robert Heysham Sir William Lowther Sir Roger Bradshaigh Thomas Stringer Ambrose Pudsey William Clayton Sir Thomas Johnson
Leicestershire.	Leicestershire.
Sir George Beaumont James Winstanley	John Verney John Wilkins
Lincolnshire.	Lincolnshire.
Lewis Dymocke Sir John Thorold William Cecil Charles Bertie	Sir Edward Irby Sir Edward Hussey John Chaplin Arthur Moore Sir William Ellys Richard Ellys
Middlesex.	Middlesex.
Warwick Lake Hugh Smithson Sir Walter Clarges	Sir Gilbert Heathcote
Monmouthshire.	Monmouthshire.
Not One.	John Morgan
Norfolk.	Norfolk.
Thomas Palgrave	Sir John Holland Sir Jacob Astley Thomas Blofield Robert Walpole Benjamin England John Nicholson
Northamptonshire.	Northamptonshire.
John James	Sidney Wortley Montagu Sir Gilbert Dolben Sir Matthew Dudley Francis Arundel Charles Egerton Thomas Wentworth
Northumberland.	Northumberland.
Bertram Stote	Sir Francis Blake Sir Henry Liddel William Carr Emanuel How Sir John Delaval Samuel Ogle Jonathan Hutchinson
Nottinghamshire.	Nottinghamshire.
Sir Willoughby Hickman William Levinz	John Thornhaugh Sir Francis Molineux George Gregory William Pierrepoint Sir Matthew Jennison James Saunderson
Oxfordshire.	Oxfordshire.
Sir Robert Jenkinson Sir Edward Norreys Sir William Whitlock William Bromley Thomas Rowney Francis Norreys James Bertie Sir William Glynn Charles North
Rutlandshire.	Rutlandshire.
Richard Halford
Salop.	Salop.
Sir Edward Acton	Roger Owen Richard Corbet John Kynaston Richard Mytton Sir Humphry Briggs Sir Thomas Powys Francis Herbert George Weld Charles Mason Henry Bret
Somersetshire.	Somersetshire.
William Coward Henry Portman Sir Jacob Bancks James Anderton	Nathaniel Palmer Sir Philip Sydenham Robert Yate Sir William Daines William Blaithwait Alexander Popham Sir Francis Warre Edward Clarke Sir Thomas Wroth George Balch Alexander Lutterell Sir Francis Wyndham Sir Thomas Travell John Hunt
Southampton.	Southampton.
Henry Holmes Leonard Bilson William Stephens Francis Gwynn	Richard Norton George Pitt Lord William Powlet Geo. Rodney Bridges Frederick Tilney Adam de Cardonnel William Gifford Sir George Rooke Anthony Morgan Robert Mitchell Lord Cutts Anthony Burnaby Henry Killegrew Sir Thomas Hopson John Leigh William Ettricke Thomas Dore Paul Burrard Richard Woollaston John Schrimpton John Smith Francis Shepheard
Staffordshire.	Staffordshire.
Richard Dyot Joseph Girdler	Henry Paget Edward Bagot Sir Michael Biddulph Thomas Foley Walter Chetwynd John Crew Offley Rowland Cotton Thomas Guy
Suffolk.	Suffolk.
Earl of Dysert John Bence Sir Charles Bloys Robert Kemp Sir Edmund Bacon Sir Edward Turner George Dashwood Sir Robert Davers	Sir Dudley Cullum Serjeant Whitaker Sir George Elwys Spencer Compton Sir Joseph Jekyll Sir Thomas Felton
Surrey.	Surrey.
Leonard Wessel Sir John Parsons George Vernon Thomas Heath	Sir Richard Onslow Charles Cox John Cholmondeley John Ward Sir Robert Clayton Henry Harvey Morgan Randyl Denzil Onslow Maurice Thompson Thomas Onslow
Sussex.	Sussex.
John Toke William Ellison	Thomas Pelham Henry Lumley John Miller Henry Cowper John Wicker John Lukener Laurence Alcock Sir Nicholas Pelham Richard Baine Joen Perry Nathaniel Gould Samuel Sambroke John Asgil Sir Edward Hungerford Charles Goring John Conyers Edmund Dummer Carew Weekes
Warwickshire.	Warwickshire.
Sir John Mordaunt Sir Christopher Hales Thomas Gery Francis Greville Algernoon Greville	Not One.
Westmoreland.	Westmoreland.
Not One.	William Fleming Henry Grahme Lord Pierrepoint James Grahame
Wiltshire.	Wiltshire.
Sir Richard How Robert Hyde Charles Fox Sir James How Robert Bartie Henry Chivers William Harvey Henry Pinnel	Robert Eyre Sir John Hawles John Gauntlet Sir James Ash Thomas Jervis Edward Ash William Monson Henry Bertie Sir Charles Hedges Francis Merryweather John Methuen Lord Mordaunt James Montagu Thomas Bouchier Edward Pauncefort Thomas Webb Samuel Barker James Bruce Edmund Webb John Webb Francis Stonehouse Charles Mompesson Henry St. John Robert Bruce Edward Jeffreys
Worcestershire.	Worcestershire.
Sir John Packington Hugh Parker	William Walsh Samuel Swift Thomas Wylde Edward Foley Charles Cox John Rudge Salway Winnington
Yorkshire.	Yorkshire.
Robert Byerley James Darcy Sir Bryan Stapleton	Lord Hartington Sir John Kay Sir William Robinson Tobias Jenkins Sir William St. Quintin William Maister Christopher Stockdale William Thompson John Hungerford John Sharpe Sir William Hustler Thomas Yorke Henry Guy Sir Henry Goodricke Sir William Strickland William Palmes Sir Godfrey Copley Sir Thomas Frankland Robert Monckton William Jessop Sir Charles Hotham William Gee Robert Dormer John Aislaby Sir John Bland William Lowther
Cinque-Ports.	Cinque-Ports.
John Mitchel	William Ashburnham John Pulteney Matthew Aylmer Philip Papillon Sir Henry Furnese Sir Philip Boteler John Boteler Walter Whitfield John Brewer Thomas Fagg Edward Southwell George Clarke James Hodges Sir William Thomas William Lowndes
Wales.	Wales.
Sir Humphry Mackworth Thomas Bulkeley Henry Lloyd Sir John Wynne Sir Thomas Hanmer Thomas Mostyn Edward Vaughan John Vaughan	Lord Bulkeley Coningesby Williams John Jeffreys Sir Jeffrey Jeffreys Griffith Rice Richard Vaughan Sir Richard Middleton Edward Bereton Thomas Mansel John Langhorn Thomas Harley Robert Harley