House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 9 May 1643

DIE Martis, 9 die Maii.

PRAYERS.

Earl of Manchester, Speaker this Day.

Lady Gerbier, a Pass.

Ordered, That the Lady Gerbier shall have a Pass, to go into France, with her Two Daughters.

Letter from Ld. Fairfax.

A Letter from the Lord Fairefaix was read, directed to the Speaker of this House; setting forth the State of the Affairs in the North, desiring to be supplied with Money, and Horse, and Ammunition.

Letters to the Queen intercepted.

Next, were read Letters intercepted going to the Queen, from the Countess of Derby and Six Scotch Lords.

The House Resolved, To communicate these Letters to the House of Commons, at a Conference.

Message to the H. C. for a Conference on them.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr.

To desire (fn. 1) a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, concerning some Letters sent from the Lord Fairefaix.

Sequestration of Louze from Aymes.

Next, the House heard the Charge against John Aymes, Curate of Louze, in the County of Kent.

He not appearing, being served with the Order of this House, Affidavit being made of the serving of the Order upon him by John Edmead and Abiah Crispe; [ (fn. 2) their Lordships], upon this Contempt, proceeded to hear the Evidence; and these Witnesses were produced:

"To prove the said Ames is a common Drunkard:"

Henry Lane.
John Edmead.

"To prove he railed upon the Parliament, and said, They would have all their Heads chopped off:"

Henry Lane.
Paul Greensmith.

The House being satisfied by these Witnesses of the scandalous Life of the said Ames, their Lordships took the whole Business into Consideration, Adjudged, "That the said Ames (fn. 2) should be sequestered from the Profits, and (fn. 3) officiating the Cure of the said Church of Louze.

Mr. Gilbert to officiate there.

"2. That Mr. Thomas Gilbert, Master of Arts, shall officiate the said Cure." (Here enter the Judgement at large.)

"3. That the Profits shall be sequestered into responsible Hands.

Mr. Aymes committed.

"4. That he shall be committed to the Prison of The Fleete, there to remain during the Pleasure of this House; and, if he be not to be found, a Warrant to attach him when he is seen."

Sequestration of Pedmarsh from Mr. Wyborough.

Next, this House heard the Charge against Thomas Wyborough, of Pedmarsh, in the County of Essex.

He not (fn. 4) appearing, Affidavit was made, by John Belcher and Will. Simpson, "That they served the Order of this House upon him, to appear before this House."

Then the House proceeded to hear the Witnesses, to prove the Particulars:

Will. Sympson, Henry Merriton, said, "He heard the said Mr. Wy borough say, That Christ was Corporally in the Sacrament; and, unless a Man did believe this, he could not be saved."

"To prove that he suspended Persons for not bowing at the Name of Jesus:"

Daniell Sutton and John Gent.

Daniell Sutton heard him say, "The Gospel had been too long in that Place."

This House being satisfied with these Proofs, the House took the whole Cause into Consideration, and Adjudged, for these Offences:

"1. That the said Thomas Wyborough shall be attached, and brought before this House.

"2. That he shall be sequestered from the Profits and officiating the said Cure, during the Pleasure of this House.

Mr. Burrow to officiate there.

"3. That Thomas Burrowe, Master of Arts, shall officiate the said Cure, and receive the Profits of the same, the Profits to be first sequestered into responsible Hands."

Sequestration of Fyfield from Dr. Reade.

Next, the Charge against Dr. Reade, Parson of Fyfeild, in the County of Essex, was heard.

Dr. Reade was present; and, the Charge being read, he was demanded what Answer he would make; and he denied he was guilty of any of the Particulars, only he bowed towards the Table, not to the Table.

And he confessed he read the Book for the Sports on the Sabbath-day, but did not speak for it.

Jo. Hurspeath, George Wood, said, "He heard Dr. Reade say, in the Church, after the Reading of the Book of Sports on the Sabbath-day, that it was lawful for the young Men to sport on the Sabbath-day."

Rob't Aswell, Gouge Ramsey, "That we must obey the Bishop's Commands, (fn. 5) set over us by God, though they be Errors in Religion, for our Part is Obedience; and this shall be a sufficient Excuse at the Day of Judgement for us, to say, (fn. 6) We did it out of Obedience."

Rob't Ashwell, "That he said it was a sitting Thing for Men to cross themselves in the Forehead, when they came into the Church."

John Tyng, John Hubbard, "That he refused to read the Ordinances of Parliament."

Rob't Ashwell, George Woode, "That he preached openly, That it was utterly unlawful for any People to take up Arms for the Defence of Religion; and that none but Brownists and Anabaptists are of another Opinion; and that it is better to suffer for Religion, than to take up Arms for the Defence of it."

Gouge Ramsey, John Collyn, Andrew Kent, "That he prayed that the Laws in Queen Marie's Days might be re-established, as they were in Her Days.

"This was about a Quarter of a Year ago."

Jonathan Crosse, George Wood, Gouge Ramsey, Tho. Kinge, "That he was a Compurgator in the Ecclesiastical Court for his Man and Maid, who had committed Incontinency together."

Dr. Reade confessed.

The Lords, having heard the Proofs, took the whole Business into Consideration.

Message from the H. C. for Committees to be sent into Scotland, to require Aid.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Peter Wentworth Knight:

To desire their Lordships to nominate and appoint a Committee of Lords, to join with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons, to be sent into Scotland, to intreat them to give Aid and Assistance to this Kingdom, according to the Act of Pacification.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That their Lordships will send an Answer to this Message by Messengers of their own.

The Messengers sent to the House of Commons return with this Answer:

That the House of Commons will give a present Conference, as is desired.

Heads for the Conference about Ld. Fairfax's Letter.

The Effect of the Conference was, "To desire the House of Commons, that they will (fn. 7) take some Course that the Lord Fairefaix may be supplied with Money and Ammunition; and that the Lord General may be desired to send him what Horse he can spare."

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Adam DeCardinal, a Pass.

Ordered, That Adam De Cardinal shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, and return back again to London.

Joseph De Silva, a Pass.

Ordered, That Joseph De Silva shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, and return to London.

L. Lieutenant's House protected in Kent.

Ordered, That the Speaker do write to the Persons that have the Power of the Forces in Kente, that (fn. 8) they take Care that no Violence be offered to the Lord Lieutenant's House in Kente.

Mrs. Fanshaw, a Pass.

Ordered, That a Hackney Coach shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, and bring Mrs. Fanshaw to London.

Princess Mary's Servant, a Pass.

Ordered, That a Footman of Princess Mary shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, and return back again to London.

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 9 ^a cras.