House of Lords Journal Volume 4: 20 January 1642

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Die Jovis, videlicet, 20 die Januarii.

Prayers.

It was signified to the House, "That there were without divers Gentlemen of Essex, who desired that this House would give them Leave to present a Petition to their Lordships," (fn. 1) to which the House gave Leave; and they were called in, and presented this Petition following, which was read in hæc verba: videlicet,

The Essex Petition.

"To the Right Honourable the House of Peers.

"The humble Petition of sundry of the Knights, Gentlemen, and Inhabitants, of the County of Essex, in their own Names, and in the Behalf of many others,

"Most humbly sheweth,

"That we are truly sensible of, and daily thankful for, your Care and Pains (with the House of Commons) for the settling of Church and State; and though that the Reformation which is desired be much retarded, and your Endeavours in a great Measure made abortive, by the Counsels and Practises of the malignant Party of Prelates and Popish Lords, yet your indefatigable Labours we with all Thankfulness most humbly acknowledge; and we do, in all Humility, represent to your most Honourable Consideration our remaining Fears and Grievances, arising from the Delays of Help to our Brethren of Ireland, whereby they daily lay under many inhuman Villanies and barbarous Cruelties; the Fears from The Tower of London (the Magazine of the Kingdom), which is intrusted in unknown Hands, and with one whom we cannot confide in; the Defect of the Arms of our Trained Bands, which were not long since taken away, whereby a Maritimate County is in Part left unarmed; the putting some of our Gentlemen out of the Commission for the Peace, because they would not serve the Turn of present Times; the not executing of Priests condemned by the Law, whereby that Party are grown more insolent, seeing that Justice against them is stopt (even in the Time of Parliament), though they are Delinquents in the highest Kind; the Prelates and Popish Lords still sitting and voting in your House, a Thing (as we conceive) most incompatible to the Office of the one, and no ways fit to be allowed to the other; and lastly, our Fears are from the unparalleled Breaches of the Liberties of Parliament, which are the Strength and Safety of your Body, and the Inheritance of the Subject, all which do cause such a Decay of Cloathing and Farming (the Two Trades of our Country, whereby the Multitudes of our People have lived), that we tremble to think what may follow thereupon.

"Most humbly praying, that bleeding Ireland may speedily and strongly be relieved, The Tower of London may be committed to safe Hands, the Arms of Trained Bands repaired, and trusted with able and approved Persons, that the County may be put into a Posture of Defence both by Land and Sea, the Gentlemen which have been (for their Faithfulness) put out of Commission may be restored, the condemned Priests executed, the Prelates and Popish Lords may be excluded your House, the Privileges of Parliament may be fully assured, and the worthy Members of it (who have, in an unheard of, illegal Way, been endangered) may be vindicated, and receive Reparation.

"And your Petitioners do resolve, in all just and honourable Ways (according to our late Protestation), to maintain the Persons and Privileges of this Honourable Parliament with our Lives and Estates, against the Enemies of God, the King, and State.

"And humbly pray, &c."

Thanks given to the Petitioners.

The Gentlemen were commanded to withdraw; and the House took into Consideration what Answer to give for the present; and being called in again, the Speaker, by the Direction of the House, gave them this Answer: "That their Lordships do give them Thanks for their Care and Good-will in the relation to the Privileges of Parliament, and the Safety of Ireland; and for the rest of their Petition, this House will take it into Consideration in due Time."

Contribution for Ireland Bill.

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for a speedy Contribution and Loan towards the Relief of His Majesty's distressed Subjects of the Kingdom of Ireland.

Committed to these Lords following: videlicet,

The D. of Richmond.
L. Admiral.
Comes Bedford.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Leycester.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Cambridge.
Comes Holland.
Comes Bollingbrooke.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.

Mr. Baron Henden and
Mr. Justice Mallett,
Epus. London.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Chester.
Epus. Rochester.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Spencer.
Ds. Brooke.
Ds. Newnham.
Ds. Robartes.
Ds. Grey de Warke.
Ds. Savill.
Assistants.

Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on Saturday Morning next, at Nine of the Clock in the Morning, in the Painted Chamber.

Minne versus Sir Richard Yonge.

Ordered, That the Committee for Privileges do meet To-morrow, and give an Account to this House of Sir Richard Younge's Business, referred to them on Saturday last.

The Lord Keeper signified to this House, "That he had (now sitting in the House) received a Paper sent him from the King, directed to both Houses of Parliament; which Paper, by Command of the House, was read, in hæc verba: videlicet,

The King's Message about the Peace of the Kingdom.

"His Majesty, perceiving the manifold Distractions which are now in this Kingdom, which cannot but bring great Inconveniency and Mischiefs to this whole Government, in which as His Majesty is most chiefly interested, so He holds Himself by many Reasons most obliged to do what in Him lies for the preventing hereof, though He might justly expect (as most proper for the Duty of Subjects) that Propositions for the Remedies of these Evils ought rather to come to Him than from Him, yet His Fatherly Care of all His People being such, that He will rather lay by any particular Respect of His own Dignity, than that any Time should be lost for Prevention of these threatening Evils, which cannot admit the Delays of the ordinary Proceedings in Parliament, doth think fit to make this ensuing Protestation to both Houses of Parliament:

"That they with all Speed falling into a serious Consideration of all those Particulars which they shall hold necessary, as well for the upholding and maintaining of His Majesty's just and Regal Authority, and for the settling of His Revenue, as for the present and future Establishment of their Privileges, the free and quiet Enjoying of their Estates and Fortunes, the Liberty of their Persons, and Security of the true Religion now professed in the Church of England, and the settling of the Ceremonies in such a Manner as may take away all just Offence; which when they shall have digested and composed into One entire Body, that so His Majesty and themselves may be able to make the more clear Judgement of them, it shall then appear, by what His Majesty shall do, how far He hath been from intending or designing any of those Things, which the too great Fears and Jealousies of some Persons seem to apprehend, and how ready He will be to equal and exceed the greatest Examples of the most indulgent Princes in their Acts of Grace and Favour to their People, so that, if all the present Distractions (which so apparently threaten the Ruin of this Kingdom) do not (by the Blessing of Almighty God) end in an happy and blessed Accommodation, His Majesty will then be ready to call Heaven and Earth, God and Man to Witness, that it hath not failed on His Part."

Ordered, That this Message be communicated to the House of Commons.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Justice Foster, and Justice Heath:

Message to the H. C. for a Conference concerning it.

To let them know, that their Lordships have received a Gracious Message from His Majesty, which fills their Lordships Hearts with a great Deal of Joy and Comfort; which being to be delivered to both Houses, their Lordships do desire it may be communicated unto them; to that End, do desire a present Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, in the Painted Chamber.

The Lord Keeper was appointed, at this Conference, to deliver a Copy of this Message to the House of Commons, and to desire them from this House, that they would take it into their speedy and serious Consideration.

E. of Peterborough excused.

The Earl of Peterborough excused for his Absence this Day.

L. Darcy and Conyers introduced.

This Day the Lord Darcie and Conyers was introducted in his Robes, between the Lord Wharton and the Lord Fauconbridge, the Lord Great Chamberlain and the Earl Marshal and Garter going before him. His Lordship delivered his Patent of Restitution and Creation, and his Writ of Summons, unto the Lord Keeper, upon his Knee; which being done, the Lord Keeper delivered them to the Clerk of the Parliament, who carried them to his Table, and read the Writ of Summons, dated the 28th of October 1641. And then his Lordship was placed next to the Lord Dacres, with a Salvo Jure.

After this, the House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Sheriffs of London to receive the Arms, &c. at Vaux Hall, Cent. House, &c.

Ordered, &c. That the Sheriffs of the City of London, or One of them, shall receive by Inventory all such Ordnance, and other Arms, as belong to any Private Persons, which are to be kept to their Uses, remaining now at Fox Hall, Cant. House, the Archbishop of York's House in Westm. and in the Bishop of Winton's House, (a fit Proportion (fn. 2) of Arms being left at each Place for the necessary Security thereof), the said Sheriffs being to receive their Directions from a Committee lately appointed by the Parliament; but the Intents of the Lords are, and it is further Ordered, That such Ordnance and Arms as do belong to His Majesty shall be forthwith sent to the King's Magazine in The Tower of London.

Recruits for L. Craven to be sent to The Low Countries.

Ordered, &c. upon the Motion of the Right Honourable the Lord Craven, That his Lordship shall have Power (by such Officers as he shall appoint under his Hand and Seal) to entertain and transport (by virtue of this Order) into The Low Countries, for the Supply of his own particular Company there, and for the Service of The States of The United Provinces, the Number of Thirty Men, by Way of Recruits, according to former Liberty granted by His Majesty and the Parliament, for the Supplying of other Companies in the like kind.

The whole Number granted upon this Motion being Sixty, they were divided into several Warrants, by Direction.

Sir Henry Pagett, Do.

Upon like Motion, the same Day, of the Lord Pagett, on the Behalf of his Brother Sir Henry Pagett, for the same Number of Sixty, for his own particular Company, the same was granted by their Lordships, and divided as before.

John Bourke released.

Ordered, &c. That John Bourke, now a Prisoner in The Fleet by Order of this House, shall (by virtue hereof) be brought before the Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench, and (upon such Bail as his Lordship shall approve of) to be freed of and from his present Restraint and Imprisonment, paying his Fees, with Condition nevertheless that he the said Bourke shall, upon a Week's Warning from this House, attend the Lords in the Upper House of Parliament.

"To the Warden of The Fleet, his Deputy or Deputies."

Ebror, Cross, &c. released.

The House being this Day informed, "That William Ebbron, William Crosse, George Reynolds, and George Thacker, have lain long in the Custody of the Gentleman Usher of this House, for their Contempt of the Orders of this Court, by their Disturbance of the Possessions of the King's Tenants of the Fens in Lincolnshire, called The East, West, and North Fens;" and their Lordships being inclined to Mercy, have thought fit, and so Ordered, That the said Ebron, Crosse, Reynolds, and Thacker, paying their Fees, shall (upon their humble Acknowledgement of their Faults, before the Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench, and promising before his Lordship never to commit the like hereafter) be released of their present Restraint and Imprisonment; and this, &c.

"To the Gentleman Usher, &c."

E. Bedford and Portland, concerning Whittlesea.

Ordered, &c. That the Cause concerning Whittlesea, in the Isle of Ely, and County of Cambridge, wherein the Earls of Bedford and Portland are concerned, in themselves and their Tenants, shall be heard before the Lords Committees for Petitions on the First Tuesday in Easter Term, being the 28th of April 1642; and that all Proceedings in the said Cause shall be stayed until the said 28th of April; and also in the Interim the Possession of the Lands in Question shall remain with the said Earls, and such as claim under them, according to former Orders of this House.

"Lords House:

Printed Order to defer Private Causes till 21st of Marchnext.

"Whereas the Lords in the Upper House of Parliament do find that there are many Petitions concerning Private Persons depending now before their Lordships, and conceive that many more may be brought into that House, if timely Advertisement be not given to the contrary, which may occasion the Repair and Attendance of divers of His Majesty's loving Subjects upon their Lordships, who cannot give a Dispatch to their Private Businesses, by reason of the many Public and great Affairs that now lie before them, concerning the Safety and Weal of His Majesty's Kingdoms: It is therefore thought fit, and so Ordered by the Lords in Parliament, That all Private Businesses shall be hereby deferred and put off until the 21st of March next; whereof this House doth hereby give Notice to all His Majesty's loving People, to prevent the Charge and Trouble, which otherwise the Petitioners might be put unto, in repairing unto this House at this Time."

Report of the Meeting at Grocers Hall.

The Lord Lieutenant of Ireland reported to this House, and gave an Account of, what Orders hath been made, and what Votes have passed, at the Meeting of the Committees for the Irish Affairs, of both Houses, at Grocers Hall:

Ld. Digby and Sir John Pennington sent for.

"1. That the Lords Committees received a Message from the Committee of the House of Commons, to acquaint them that they had received some Examinations from Canterbury, taken by the Mayor, of a Man of Mr. Daniell Oneales; who had Letters to deliver to the Lord Digby, from London; and they understand that the Lord Digby was lately stayed at Canterbury and examined, but is now gone from thence, and is aboard the Ship wherein Sir Jo. Pennington commands. Upon this, the Committee of the House of Commons desired that their Lordships would send for Sir Jo. Pennington and the Lord Digby, And accordingly the Lords Committees made these Orders following: videlicet,

"Die Martis, 18 Januarii, 1641.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords Committees for the Irish Affairs, That the Lord High Admiral of England be desired from the Lords Committees, that he would send for Sir Jo. Pennington, to come and attend the Parliament, to be examined concerning the Lord Digby.

"Eodem Die.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords Committees for the Irish Affairs, That the Lord George Digby, Eldest Son of the Earl of Bristoll, shall forthwith attend the said Lords Committees.

"To the Gentleman Usher attending the Lords Committees."

Ordered, That this House approves of, and confirms, these Two Orders aforesaid, made by the Lords Committees.

Skippon's Indemnity.

"2. His Lordship reported a Vote, which (fn. 3) was brought from the Committee of the House of Commons, concerning the Indemnity of Serjeant Major General Skippon.

"To which the Lords Committees have agreed with the Committee of the House of Commons.

"3. His Lordship reported, That the Scotts Commissioners sent to the Lords Committees (upon the Desire of this House) a Copy of the Petition which they presented to His Majesty, by Way of Advice; which the Lords Committees think fit to be offered to their Lordships, which was commanded to be read, in hæc verba: videlicet,

Petition of the Commissioners of Scotland.

"To the King's most Excellent Majesty.

"The humble Desires of the Commissioners of His Majesty's Kingdom of Scotland.

"We Your Majesty's humble and faithful Subjects, considering that the mutuall Relation between Your Majesty's Kingedomes of Scotland and England is such as they must stande or fall together, and the Disturbance of the one must needs disquiett and distemper the Peace of the other, as hes bene often acknowledged by thame both, and especially in the late Treaty, which is ratified in Parliament, and confirmed by the publique Faith of the Estates of Your Majesty's ancient and native Kingedome of Scotland, soe that they are bound to maintaine the Peace and Liberties of on another, being highlie concerned therein, as the assured Meanes of the Safety and Preservation of thaire awne; and finding ourselves warranted and oblidged be all Meanes to labour to keepe a right Understandinge betwixt Your Majesty and Your People; to confirme that Brotherlie Affection betwixt the Two Nations, to advance thare Unity be all such Waies as may tend to the Glorie of God, and Peace of the Church and State of both Kingedomes; and aykwayes to profer our Service for removinge all Jealousie and Mistakeinge which may arise betwixt Your Majesty and this Kingedome; and our best Endeavours for the better Establishment of the Effaires and Quiet of the same, that beth Your Majesty's Kingedomes of Scotland and England may be united, in the enjoyeinge of thair Liberties in Peace under Your Majesty's Scepter; which is the most assured Foundation of Your Majesty's Honor and Greatnes, and of the Security of Your Royal Person, Croun, and Dignity; we have taken the Boldnes to shaw Your Majesty that we are heartily sorie and greived to behold these Distractions, which encrease daylie betwixt Your Majesty and Your People, and which we conceive are entertained by the wicked Plots and Practices of Papists, Prelates, and thare Adherents, whose Aime in all these Troubles hes not been onlie to prevent all further Reformation, but also to subvert the Purity and Truth of Religion within all Your Majesty's Kingedomes, for which End thair constant Endeavours have been to stir up Divisions betwixt Your Majesty and Your People, by thaire questioning the Authority of Parliaments, the lawfull Liberties of the Subjects, and real weakening Your Majesty's Power and Authority, ney all upon Pretence of extending the same, whereof by God's Providence being disappointed in Your Majesty's Kingedome of Scotland, these have now converted thare mischievous Counsels, Conspiracies, and Attempts, to produce these Distempers in Your Majesty's Kingedomes of England and Irland; and therefore, accordinge to our Duety to Your Majesty, to testify our Brotherly Affection to this Kingedome and acquit ourselves of the Trust imposed us;

"We doe make Offer of our humble Endeavours for composing of these Differences; and to that Purpose do beseech Your Majesty, in these Extremities, to have Recourse to the sound and faithfull Advice of the Honourable Houses of Parliament, and to repose thereupon, as the onlie assured and happy Means to establish (fn. 4) the Prosperity and Quiett of this Kingedome; and, in the Depth of Your Royall Wisedome, to consider and preveene these Apprehensions of Fear, which may possesse the Hearts of Your Majesty's subjects in Your other Kingedomes, if they shall conceive the Authority of Parliaments, and the Rights and Liberties of the Subject, to be here called in Question; and we are confident that; if Your Majesty shall be graciously pleased to take in good Parte, and give Ear to, these our humble and faithful Desires, that the Success of Your Majesty's Affairs, howsoever perplexed, shall be happy to Your Majesty, and joyfull to all Your People; over whom that Your Majesty may longe and prosperously reign is the servent and constant Prayer of us Your Majesty's faythfull Subjects and Servants.

"That the Lords Committees think it fit to offer to their Lordships Consideration to give Thanks to the Scotts Commissioners, for the Affection which they have expressed to this Kingdom, in the Advice which they gave to the King therein.

Skippon, Trained Bands.

"4. It was reported, That the Committee of the House of Commons presented to the Lords Committees an Order, That the Sheriffs of London and Midd. should raise Trained Bands, by the Advice of Serjeant Major General Skippon, which they offer to their Lordships Consideration.

"5. That the Lords Committees did communicate to the Committee of the House of Commons the King's Letter and Answer, touching the Prince and the Marquis of Hertford.

"6. His Lordship reported an Order made by the Lords Committees, as followeth:

Die Mercurii, 19 Januarii, 1641.

Arms of the Ld. Digby staid.

"Whereas Information was given this Day to the Lords Committees, by the Committees of the House of Commons, That Yesterday a Waggon was met at Bagshott, and since at Hartford-bridge, laden with Arms and Ammunition, which belongeth to the Lord George Digby, Eldest Son to the Earl of Bristoll; it is therefore Ordered, by the Lords Committees for the Irish Affairs, and for the Safety of the Kingdom, That the said Waggon, with the Arms and Ammuninition, shall be forthwith stopped and brought up, and put into the Custody of the Gentleman Usher attending the Lords in Parliament."

Ordered, That this House confirms this Order made by the Lords Committees.

Skippon's Indemnity.

The Report being made; the Lords commanded the Order for the Indemnity of Serjeant Major General Skippon to be read: videlicet,

"That Captain Phillip Skippon's accepting of the Place of Serjeant Major General of the Forces of the City of London, and his directing and ordering the Trained Bands of the City and adjacent Parts to beat their Drums, to assemble together to their several Colours, to stand in Arms, to march, to watch, and disband, as also his giving Order for the issuing out and Distribution of the Ammunition to the Trained Bands, or whatsoever besides he hath advised or done according to the Votes of the Committee of the Common Council of the said City, approved by the Committee of the House of Commons the 10th of this present January 1641, is all, and every Part thereof, according to his Duty, and the last Protestation, and the Laws of this Kingdom, as tending to the good Service of His Majesty, the Safety of the Parliament, Kingdom, and City of London; and that, if any Person shall arrest or trouble him for so doing, he doth break the Privilege of Parliament, violate the Liberty of the Subject, and is hereby declared an Enemy to the Commonwealth."

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House approves of, and confirms this Order.

Protest against it.

Memorandum, The Lord Mowbray, before the putting of this Question, desired Leave to dissent to this Vote; which accordingly he did.

Ds. Mowbray.

Message from the H. C. for the Committees to meet at Grocers Hall.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Hampden, consisting of Two Parts:

"1. To inform their Lordships, that, in regard the House of Commons do find a quicker Dispatch of Affairs by Committees, and in regard to ease the City of the Charge of Guards, the House of Commons have appointed their House to be adjourned till Monday next. In the mean Time, their Committee is Ordered to sit at Grocers Hall, in London; and the Reason why the House of Commons have chosen that Place is, because their Lordships did appoint that Place for their Lordships Committee to sit last Time. The House of Commons desires their Lordships would please to take it into their Consideration; and, if they think fit, to adjourn this House likewise, and give their Committee Authority to meet with the same Powers as they had last.

And for the Lords to sit a while.

"2. He said, That the House of Commons are now in Agitation of some Business of Importance; and they desire their Lordships would be pleased to sit a while, for they intend to come up to their Lordships."

Answer.

Hereupon it is Ordered, That this House shall be adjourned until Monday next; and that the Committee, in the mean Time, for the Irish Affairs, shall sit at Grocers Hall, in London, and shall have the Powers and Authority as they had last Time; and also that one of the Heads shall be, to take into Consideration the Kings Message sent this Day.

The Messengers were called in; and their Answer was as the Order aforesaid.

Committee to p.epare an Address of Thanks to the King for the last Message.

Ordered, That the Lord Privy Seal, Earl of South'ton, Earl of Cambridge, and the Lord Viscount Say & Seale, do draw up what is fit to be (fn. 5) presented to His Majesty, as Thanks for His Gracious Message sent this Day to the Houses of Parliament, and to report the same to this House.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Bainton:

Message from the H. C. for a Conference about Hull.

To desire a present free Conference (if it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency), by a Committee of both Houses, touching the Town of Hull.

The Answer returned to this Message was:

Answer.

That their Lordships will give a present Meeting, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

Letter from the Mayor of Hull.

After this, a Letter was read, directed to the Lords in Parliament, sent from the Mayor and Alderman of Hull, dated the 16 January 1641, the Effect of (fn. 5) which was: "To let their Lordships know, that they have received an Order of this House, that they should admit Sir John Hotham, Knight, to bring in some of the Trained (fn. 5) Bands near, for the securing of the King's Magazine of Arms and Ammunition, and the said Town; but, since Captain Legg is sent thither from the King, and that likewise the Earl of Newcastle is come thither, with a Commission from the King to be Governor of that Town, and to put in Regiments of Sir Thomas Metam's into that Town, they humbly pray, that, if this House conceives it sitting to place a Garrison of Soldiers there, that their Lordships would be pleased to procure His Majesty's Consent, for their Warrant and Discharge therein."

To be communicated to the H. C.

Ordered, That this Letter be communicated to the House of Commons, at this Conference.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Phillip Stapleton, Knight:

Message from the H. C. about a false Report of them to the Queen concerning an intention of accusing Her of Treason.

To let their Lordships know, that the House of Commons hath heard that there should be a Report carried to the Queen, as if there should be an Intention of the House of Commons to accuse Her Majesty of High Treason, and that some Articles were brought to the Queen to that Purpose; as they understand the Earl of Newport was told so much by the Queen: This the House of Commons conceive to be a great Abuse to them, as never having such a Thing in their Thoughts: They desire their Lordships would join with them to send some to the Queen from both Houses, humbly to desire Her Majesty that She will be pleased to discover the Party that gave Her this Information, and delivered those Articles to Her Majesty.

Two Lords to attend the Queen about it.

Hereupon it is Ordered, That the Earl of Newporte and the Lord Seymour do attend upon the Queen, for the Purpose abovesaid.

The Answer returned to the Messengers of the House of Commons was:

Answer to the H. C.

That their Lordships will join with them as they have desired, and have appointed Two Lords to wait on the Queen accordingly.

Committee to draw up the Message to the Queen.

These Lords following were appointed to draw up the Message which is to be sent to the Queen from both Houses, and to present the same to this House:

Comes Bathon.
Comes Leycester.
Comes Holland.
Ds. Robartes.

Report of the Answer to the King's Message.

The Lord Privy Seal reported the Draught of the Message to be sent to the King, to thank Him for His Gracious Message, which was read, in hæc verba: videlicet,

"Whereas the Houses of Parliament have received from Your Majesty a Message, expressing much Grace and Favour to all Your Majesty's Subjects, they have thought fit to return to Your Majesty most humble Thanks for the same; and to let Your Majesty know, that they will take it into such speedy and serious Consideration as a Proposition of that great Importance doth require."

Message to the H. C. for them to join in it.

This House approved of this Message, and Resolved, To send it down to the House of Commons, to desire them to join therein; which accordingly was done, by Sir Robert Rich and Mr. Page.

Message from the H. C. for the Lords to join with them in the following Order.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir John Clatworthy, Knight; who brought up an Order made by the House of Commons, for Arms to be sent into Ireland, with a Desire that His Majesty may be moved, to give Warrants for the Particulars. The said Order was read, as followeth: videlicet,

Order for Arms for Ireland.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That His Majesty shall be humbly moved, to grant Warrants to the Earl of Newport, Master of His Majesty's Ordnance, for the Delivery out of The Tower of London, unto the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, these Arms here specified: videlicet,

"132 Carabins,
22 Pair of Pistols,
332 Backs, Brests, and Potts,
Which want yet to compleat the 300 Horse already raised.

"340 compleat Arms of Carabins for them that are now raised, and for their Officers.

"Arms for 300 Horse, for the Service of Munster. 324 Arms for the Three Companies of Dragooners and their Officers.

"3000 Arms for the 3000 Foot (One Third whereof to be Pikemen, and the rest Musketeers, with Bandeliers, Corslets, Swords, and Belts), which are to be raised, and to be sent to Dublin with Arms for the Officers.

"1000 Arms for Foot, at the same Proportion for Munster, besides the 2000 for which His Majesty hath already given Warrant, there being 3000 Men appointed for that Province and Arms for Officers.

"200 Arms for Foot, for the Garrison of Duncannon, videlicet, for 50 Pikemen and 150 Musketeers, with the Officers Arms for Two Companies.

"100 Arms for Horse,
400 Arms for Foot,
To be sent to the Earl of Thomond.

"Arms for 500 Foot for Connaght; videlicet, Two Third Muskets and One Third Pike.

"500 Swords, Belts, and Rests, for the Muskets and Bandeliers and Corslets.

"14 Pieces of Iron Ordnance, with Shot, Carriages, and other Equipage, videlicet, Seven DemiCulverins and Seven Sackers, for the Defence of Knockfergus and other Places of Ulster.

8 Small Iron Pieces for The Lough, in Ulster, with Shot for all these Ordnance, and full Equipage, with the Bandeliers, Rests, and Belts, for the 1000 Muskets and 1500 Swords formerly issued out of the Stores for Ulster."

Ordered, That this House joins with the House of Commons in this Order; and appoints the Earl of Newporte, Master of the Ordnance, to move His Majesty from both Houses, to give Warrants for the Delivery of these Particulars aforesaid.

Answer to the H. C.

The Messengers were called in, and acquainted with the abovesaid Order.

This House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed; and the Lord Keeper reported the Effect of this Conference:

Conference about Hull reported.

"The House of Commons do put their Lordships in Mind of an Order, which their Lordships joined with the House of Commons in, to give Power to Sir Jo. Hotham, Knight, to draw into Hull some of the Trained Bands of that Country, for the securing of the said Town and the King's Magazine there (the said Sir Jo. Hotham being Governor of that Town by Grant from His Majesty, under the Great Seal); yet the said Order is disobeyed, and the Companies not suffered to come into the Town, which appears by a Letter, which the House of Commons have lately received from Mr. Hotham, Deputy to Sir John Hotham, now at Hull, the Effect of which Letter is, That the Earl of Newcastle is at Hull, with a Letter under the King's Hand and Seal Manual, to have the Magazine and Town delivered into his Hand as Governor, and to draw in such of the Trained Bands as he shall think fit, and especially the Regiment of Sir Thomas Metham; (fn. 6) that the Orders of the Parliament have been delivered, and Obedience unto them hath been pressed; the Mayor and Aldermen of the Town's Answer was, They were willing to obey the King and the Parliament; but, for the present, they had written to both, and, until they had an Answer, they were not willing that the Trained Bands, which were presented at the Gates, should be admitted. The Men that are most averse are Mr. Alderman Watkinson the present Mayor, Mr. Henry Barnard, and one Cartwright. If these be presently sent for and punished, and a peremptory (fn. 7) Order sent for Obedience to the Commands of the Parliament, the Business would be effected.

"The House of Commons say, they hold this to be an Injury to both Houses of Parliament, and the Lord Chamberlain, the Earl of Essex, who is Lord Lieutenant of Yorkshire under the Great Seal of England, and recommended to the King (for his Nobleness and approved Confidence) for that Place, by both Houses: Therefore they desire that the Earl of Newcastle (being a Peer of this House) may be sent for by their Lordships, to shew by what Warrant he came to be Governor of the Town of Hull, and to raise the Power of the County; and likewise desired that the others mentioned in the Letter may be sent for."

E. of Newcastle sent for,

and the Mayor and some Aldermen of Hull.

This House, taking this Message into Consideration, for the present, Ordered, That the Earl of Newcastle shall be sent to, to come and attend this (fn. 7) House immediately; and the Lord Keeper is to write to his Lordship, to signify so much unto him: And it is further Ordered, That Alderman Wattkinson the present Mayor of Hull, Mr. Henry Barnard, and one Cartwright a Draper, shall forthwith, upon Sight hereof, attend this House; and that the Parties abovesaid shall bring up their Charter with them.

Next, this House took into Consideration the Order brought from the Committee of the House of Commons at Grocers Hall, to enable Serjeant Major General Skippon to give Advice to the Sheriffs of London and Midd. concerning the Trained Bands; and, after a mature Debate and Consideration, and some small Alterations and Amendments, it was read, in hæc verba: videlicet,

Serjeant Major General Skippon to appoint Companies in London, and Middlesex;

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the Sheriffs of London and Midd. for the Time being do, from Time to Time, issue out their Warrant, or Warrants, for raising such and so many of the Trained Bands, and other Forces of the City of London and Midd. for the Safety of His Majesty's Person, the Parliament, City of London, and Kingdom, as they, with the Advice of the Serjeant Major Skippon, shall from Time to Time give Order for.

"It is further Ordered, That the said Sheriffs of London and Midd. or any of them, shall, in like Manner, from Time to Time, issue forth such Ammunition of Powder, Bullet, and Match, out of the Magazine or Storehouse for the City of London (for such Companies as are raised and commanded upon Service out of or from the said City), such Quantities of either of them, as the said Serjeant Major Skippon shall direct and appoint, signified under his Hand unto any one or both of the said Sheriffs of London and Midd. for the Service aforesaid.

and in Surrey.

"And it is likewise Ordered, That the Sheriff of the County of Surrey, by the Advice of Serjeant Major Skippon, shall, from Time to Time, as oft as Occasion shall require, command forth the Trained Bands of the Borough of Southwarke, or either of them, for the Safety of His Majesty's Person, the Parliament, City of London, and Kingdom, by issuing their Warrant to the several Captains that have Command of the same Companies; and that, if any voluntarily offer themselves to be employed in the Services aforesaid, for the Ease of the Trained Bands of London and Midd. they shall then be Ordered by Serjeant Major Skippon; but they shall not be compelled to go out of their County."

This Order to be communicated to the Committee of the H. C. at Grocers Hall.

Ordered, That the Committee that is to sit at Grocers Hall shall have Power to communicate this Order, as now it is, to the Committee of the House of Commons.

Committee on the Contribution Bill for Ireland to meet at Grocers Hall.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Bill concerning the Contribution for Ireland, shall (fn. 8) meet at Grocers Hall to consider thereof, and report the same to this House.

Message from the H. C. with a Petition to the King about the Members of both Houses accused of Treason.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Arthur Goodwin, Esquire; who brought up a Draught of a Petition, which the House of Commons have thought fit to be presented to His Majesty from both Houses, concerning the Members of both Houses that are accused of High Treason; and the House of Commons desires their Lordships to join with them therein.

Which Petition was commanded to be read, in hæc verba: videlicet,

Petition about Ld. Kymbolton, &c.

"To the King's most Excellent Majesty.

"The humble Petition of the Lords and Commons now assembled in Parliament,

"Sheweth,

"That whereas there have of late been sundry and great Breaches of the Privileges of Parliament, and Your Majesty in a Message to both Houses of Parliament was pleased Graciously to express, that You would be willing to clear and assert the Privileges of Parliament by any reasonable Way that Your Parliament should advise unto You; we shall, in convenient (fn. 9) Time, present the Particulars unto Your Majesty, together with our Advice and Desires for the asserting of our Privileges. And whereas Your Majesty, by another Message to both Your Houses of Parliament, hath expressed an Apprehension of some treasonable Matter to have been committed by the Lord Kymbolton, Mr. Holles, Sir. Arthur Haslerigg, Baronet, Mr. Pym, Mr. Hampden, and Mr. Strode, and declared that You will hereafter proceed against them in an unquestionable Way; we Your Lords and Commons do humbly beseech Your Majesty, that You will be pleased to give Directions that Your Parliament may be informed, before Tuesday next, what Proof there is against them, that accordingly there may be a Legal and Parliamentary Proceeding against them, and they receive what in Justice shall be their Due, either for their Acquittal or Condemnation.

"This we humbly conceive we are bound to crave, both in regard of ourselves and of them; being as unfit that we should have any of our Members liable to so great a Charge, and thereby hindered from doing the Service they respectively owe to their several Houses, as that they, if innocent, should longer lie under so great a Weight, or, if guilty, avoid their deserved Punishment."

Ordered, That this House agrees with the House of Commons in this Petition, and Orders the same accordingly.

To be sent to the King.

And this House appoints the Earl of Newport and the Lord Seymour, to join with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons, to present this Petition to the King To-morrow.

Message from the H. C. that they agree to the Address of Thanks to the King, with an Amendment.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Nath. Fynes, Esquire; who returned to their Lordships the Paper containing the Thanks to be given to the King for His Gracious Message; to which the House of Commons agree to but desires that an Addition made by them may be annexed thereunto, and desires their Lordships to join with them therein.

Ordered, That the Consideration of this Message shall be referred to the Committee that meet at Grocers Hall To-morrow, who are to report their Opinion to this House.

Then the Lord Robartes reported a Draught, which the Committee have made of the Message to the Queen, which was read, in these Words: videlicet,

Draught of the Message to the Queen.

"That we are sent to Your Majesty from the House of Peers, upon a Desire of the House of Commons, who received Information that Your Majesty had been told that the House of Commons had an Intention to accuse You of Treason, and that some Heads of Articles to that Purpose had been shewn unto Your Majesty, which never came into their Thoughts; and therefore, to take off such an Imputation, we are commanded humbly to desire Your Majesty to discover the Authors of such Information, and such Heads as (fn. 9) were shewed unto Your Majesty, whereby such an Aspersion may be cleared, and a Preparation made to the removing of Misunderstanding."

Ordered, That this (fn. 10) House approves of this Message, which is to be presented to the Queen by the Earl of Newporte and the Lord Seymour.

Then

Adjourn.

Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Lunæ, videlicet, 24m diem instantis Januarii, hora 1a post meridiem, Dominis sic decernentibus.

Footnotes

  • 1. Bis in Origin.
  • 2. Origin. on.
  • 3. Deest in Originali.
  • 4. Origin. to the.
  • 5. Deest in Originali.
  • 6. Bis in Originali.
  • 7. Deest in Originali.
  • 8. Deest in Originali.
  • 9. Deest in Originali.
  • 10. Deest in Originali.