House of Lords Journal Volume 4: 25 April 1640

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 4, 1629-42. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

Citation:

'House of Lords Journal Volume 4: 25 April 1640', in Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 4, 1629-42( London, 1767-1830), British History Online https://prod.british-history.ac.uk/lords-jrnl/vol4/pp67-69 [accessed 17 November 2024].

DIE Sabbati, 25 die Aprilis,

Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales, quorum nomina subscri buntur, præsentes fuerunt :



p. Archiepus. Cantuar. Archiepus. Eborum. Epus. Dunelium. p. Epus. Winton. Epus. Wigorn. p. Epus. Cestriæ. Epus. Lincolne. p. Epus. Sarum. p. Epus. Co. et Litch. p. Epus. Glouc. p. Epus. Exon. p. Epus. Norwicen. Epus. Carliol. p. Epus. Assaphen. p. Epus. Bath. et Well. p. Epus. Oxon. p. Epus. Hereff. p. Epus. Elien. Epus. Meneven. p. Epus. Bristol. p. Epus. Bangor. p. Epus. Roffen. Epus. Cicestren. Epus. Petriburgen. p. Epus. Landaven.	p. Ds. Finch, Ds. Custos Magni Sigilli. Epus. London. Ds. Thesaur Angliæ. p. Comes Maunchester, Ds. Custos Privati Sigilli. Marchio Winton. p. Comes Lyndsey, Magnus Camerar. Angliæ. p. Comes Arundell et Surr. Comes Maresc. Angliæ, et Senescallus Hospitii. p. Comes Northumbriæ, Magnus Admirall Angliæ. p. Comes Pembrooke, Camer. Hospitii. Comes Salop. Comes Kanc. Comes Derbiæ. Comes Wigorn. p. Comes Rutland. Comes Cumbr. Comes Sussex. p. Comes Huntington. p. Comes Bathon. p. Comes South'ton. p. Comes Bedford. p. Comes Hartford. p. Comes Essex. p. Comes Lincoln. p. Comes Nottingham. p. Comes Suff. p. Comes Dorsett. p. Comes Sarum. Comes Exon. Comes Sumersett. p. Comes Bridgwater. Comes Leicester. p. Comes North'ton. p. Comes Warwiciæ. p. Comes Devon. p. Comes Cantabr. p. Comes March. Comes Carlile. p. Comes Denbeigh. p. Comes Bristoll. Comes Midd. p. Comes Holland. p. Comes Clare. p. Comes Bollingbrooke. Comes Westmerland. p. Comes Berkes. p. Comes Cleveland. Comes Mulgrave. Comes Danby. p. Comes Mounmouth. Comes Marleborough. Comes Rivers. p. Comes Newcastle. Comes Dover. p. Comes Petriburg. Comes Stanford. Comes Kingston. Comes Carnarvan. Comes Newport. Comes Chesterfeild. p. Comes Thanett. Comes St. Albanes. p. Comes Portland. p. Comes Strafford. Vicecomes Mountague. Vicecomes Purbeck. p. Vicecomes Say et Seale. Vicecomes Conway. p. Vicecomes Campden. p. Ds. Mowbray. p. Ds. Clifford. Ds. Abergavenny. p. Ds. Audley. p. Ds. Strange. Ds. Barkley. Ds. Morley et Mount. Ds. Dudley. Ds. Stourton. Ds. Vaux. Ds. Windsor. Ds. Crumwell. Ds. Evre. p. Ds. Wharton. p. Ds. Willoughby de Par. p. Ds. Pagett. p. Ds. North. Ds. Gerrard. p. Ds. Stanhope. Ds. Arundell de Warr. p. Ds. Kymbolton. p. Ds. Newneham Paddox. p. Ds. Brooke. p. Ds. Mountague de Bough. p. Ds. Cray de Warke. p. Ds. Deincourt. p. Ds. Roberts. Ds. Craven. Ds. Fawconbridg. p. Ds. Lovelace. p. Ds. Pawlett. Ds. Harvey. Ds. Brudnell. p. Ds. Maynard. p. Ds. Coventrie. p. Ds. Howard de Escr. p. Ds. Goring. Ds. Mohun. p. Ds. Savile. Ds. Botiler. p. Ds. Dunsmore. Ds. Powiss. p. Ds. Herbert de Cher. p. Ds. Cottington.

PRAYERS.

Lord Falconbridge s Absence excused.

Lord Fawconbridg excused, being sick of an Ague.

Message from the King, to return Thanks to the Lords.

The Lord Keeper declared to the House to this Effect That His Majesty had commanded him to let their Lordships know, that His Majesty is pleased to take Notice of what Yesterday their Lordships had resolved upon, concerning the Precedency and Resolution of His Majesty's Supply before any other Matters whatsoever, what Care, Zeal, and Affection, was expressed in His Service, both for the Matter and the Manner, and for dispatching it at that Time, as His Majesty desired, for which His Majesty commanded him to give then Lordships Thanks; and assured them, That nothing is more pleasing to His Majesty than the good Relation between Him and your Lordships, etc. assuring your Lordships shall be always dearest to Him, etc.

Massage to House of Common for a Conference, touching the Precedency of the Supply.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Justice Jones and Baron Trevor, to this Effect: videlicet, That, upon Occasion of His Majesty's being here in Person Yesterday, the Lords Spiritual and Tem poral of the High Court of Parliament do desire a Con ference with the House of Commons, with a Committee of both Houses, concerning somewhat His Majesty did deliver Yesterday; and the Place of Meeting to be in the Painted Chamber, with all convenient Speed.

Conference agreed to.

The Judges reported this Answer: That the House of Commons have taken the Message into Considera tion, and will give a Meeting with a Committee forth with.

Managers.

It was moved, That the Lord Keeper, Lord Arch bishop of Canterbury, Lord Privy Seal, Farl Marshal, Earl of Bristol, Earl of Strafford, and Lord Cottington, may withdraw themselves, and draw up the Heads of those Particulars that shall be thought fit to be propounded at the Conference with the House of Commons; which was accordingly done.

Hereupon the House was adjourned, by Consent, during Pleasure.

And, after the Lords had conferred about the Pre paration for the Conference, the House was resumed again; and the Lord Keeper read the aforesud Heads, prepared for the Conference with the House of Commons, which was agreed to be to this Effect :

Heads for the Conference.

"To express to the House of Commons the Effect of what His Majesty said here Yesterday, and at the Meeting at Whitehall; and also to put them in Mind what was delivered here the First and Second Days of this Parliament; and that His Majesty said, He would make it all good.

"To express, That His Majesty's necessary Affairs will admit of no Delay, but require a present and speedy Supply.

"To acquaint them with the great Distempers Scoland is now in; how that the Scots Army hath pitched their Tents in the Field, near Duns, in Scotland, and have taken Four English Troops, and they threaten the Invasion of Northumberland; how that the Scots have put themselves under the Protection of the French King; that His Majesty's Honour in Foreign Parts is concerned in this Business, which He is to uphold as His Life.

"That, in all Civility and Good manners, as well as Necessity, the Trust is fit to be put upon His Majesty; yet He must trust them hereafter; and that His Majesty will not break His Word with them, and there is a Necessity His Majesty must be trusted hereafter; that Delay is as good as Denial, and Time lost cannot be recovered.

"For the Three Propositions, videlicet, Religion, Propriety of Goods, and Privileges of Parliament, His Majesty will Graciously he teken to them, and relieve them, and give them what can in Reason be de sired.

"For Religion, to let them know His Majesty s Heart and Conscience will go together, and that He will die in the Religion of the Church of England; and He will be as forward to prevent Innovations as any, and will see that His Archbishops and Bishops shall take Order accordingly.

"That Ship Money was never a Profit to the King; but he spent that and more out of His own Revenue, for to preserve the Dominion of the Seas, and, if they did put the King into any other Way to secure the Seas, He would hear them.

"That this House hath voted, and declared as their Opinion, That His Majesty's Supply shall have the Preccdency, and be resolved of, before any other Matter whatsoever.

"To desire the House of Commons would go on with that first; as that which, in the Opinion of this House, is held most necessary That their Lordships in this do not move Subsidies, but rather decline it; only give their Advice herein This being done, their Lordships shall be ready to join in any Thing to carry on this great Business."

Adjourn.

Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Lunæ, videlicet, 27^m diem Aprilis, nona hora Aurora, Dominis sic decernentibus.