House of Lords Journal Volume 4: 24 April 1640

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 4, 1629-42. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

Citation:

'House of Lords Journal Volume 4: 24 April 1640', in Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 4, 1629-42( London, 1767-1830), British History Online https://prod.british-history.ac.uk/lords-jrnl/vol4/pp65-67 [accessed 22 December 2024].

DIE Vencris, 24 die Aprilis,

Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales, quorum nomina subscribuntui, præsentes fuerunt :



p. Archiepus. Cantuar. Archiepus. Eborum. Epus. Dunelium. p. Epus. Winton. Epus. Wigorn. p. Epus. Cestriæ. Epus. Lincolne. p. Epus. Sarum. p. Epus. Co. et Litch. p. Epus. Glouc. p. Epus. Exon. Epus. Norwicen. Epus. Carliol. p. Epus. Assaphen. p. Epus. Bath. et Well. p. Epus. Oxon. p. Epus. Hereff. p. Epus. Elien. Epus. Meneven. p. Epus. Bristol. p. Epus. Bangor. Epus. Roffen. p. Epus. Cicestren. p. Epus. Petriburgen. p. Epus. Landaven.	p. Ds. Finch, Ds. Custos Magni Sigilli. p. Epus. London Ds. Thesaur Angliæ. p. Comes Maunchester, Ds. Custos Privati Sigilli. p. Marchio Winton. p. Comes Lyndsey, Magnus Camerar Angliæ. p. Comes Arundell et Sur. Comes Maresc Angliæ, et Senescallus Hospitii. p. Comes Northumbriæ, Magnus Admirallus Angliæ. p. Comes Pembrooke, Camerar Hospitii. Comes Salop. Comes Kanc. Comes Derbiæ. Comes Wigorn. p. Comes Rutland. Comes Cumbr. Comes Sussex. p. Comes Huntingdon. p. Comes Bathon. p. Comes South'ton. p. Comes Bedford. p. Comes Hartford. p. Comes Essex. Comes Lincolne. p. Comes Nottingham. p. Comes Suff. p. Comes Dorsett. p. Comes Sarum. Comes Exon. Comes Sumersett. p. Comes Bridgwater. Comes Leicester. p. Comes North'ton. p. Comes Warwiciæ. p. Comes Devon. p. Comes Cantabr. p. Comes March. p. Comes Carlile. p. Comes Denbeigh. p. Comes Bristoll. Comes Midd. p. Comes Holland. p. Comes Clare. p. Comes Bollingbrooke. Comes Westmerland. p. Comes Berkes. p. Comes Cleveland. Comes Mulgrave. Comes Danby. p. Comes Mounmouth. Comes Marleborough. Comes Rivers. p. Comes Newcastle. Comes Dover. p. Comes Petriburg. Comes Stanford. Comes Kingston. Comes Carnarvan. Comes Newport. Comes Chesterfeild. p. Comes Thanett. p. Comes St. Albanes. p. Comes Portland. p. Comes Strafford. Vicecomes Mountague. Vicecomes Purbecke. p. Vicecomes Say et Seale. Vicecomes Conway. p. Vicecomes Campden. p. Ds. Mowbray. p. Ds. Clifford. Ds. Abergavenny. p. Ds. Audley. p. Ds. Strange. Ds. Barkley. Ds. Morley et Mount. Ds. Dudley. Ds. Stourcon. Ds. Vaux. Ds. Windsor. Ds. Crumwell. Ds. Evre. p. Ds. Wharton. p. Ds. Willoughby de Parr. p. Ds. Pagett. p. Ds. North. Ds. Gerrard. p. Ds. Stanhope. Ds. Arundell de Warr. p. Ds. Kymbolton. p. Ds. Newneham Paddox. p. Ds. Brooke. p. Ds. Mountague de Bough. p. Ds. Gray de Warke. p. Ds. Deincourt. p. Ds. Roberts. Ds. Craven. Ds. Tawconbridg. p. Ds. Lovelace. p. Ds. Pawlett. Ds. Harvey. Ds. Brudnell. p. Ds. Maynard. p. Ds. Coventry. p. Ds. Howard de Fscr. p. Ds. Goringe. Ds. Mohun. p. Ds. Savile. Ds. Botiler. p. Ds. Dunsmore. Ds. Powise. p. Ds. Herbert de Cher. p. Ds. Cottington.

PRAYERS.

King present.

His Majesty presented Himself unto the Lords Spi ritual and Temporal in the High Court of Parliament, and, being without His Robes, sitting in His Chair of State, the Lords being not in their Robes, His Majesty coming unexpected, His Majesty spake to them to this Effect videlicet,.

Kings Speech.

"My Lords,

"The Necessity of calling this Parliament makes Me to come this Day hither, contrary to Expectation You remember what the Lord Keeper said concerning the Occasion of this Meeting, the First and Second Days, but chiefly on the Day of Conference of both Houses at Whitehall The House of Commons did seem to take into Consideration My weighty Affairs, but they have in a Manner concluded the contrary, and, instead of preferring My Occasions in the first Place, they have held Consultation of Innovation of Religion, Property of Goods, and Privileges of Parliaments; and so have put the Cart before the Horse If it were a Time to dispute, I should not much stand upon it; but My Necessities are so urgent, that there can be no Delay If the House of Commons will trust Me, I will make good what I have promised by My Lord Keeper As for Religion, My Heart and Confcience, with the Religion now esta blished in the Church of England, shall go together For the Ship money, God is my Witness, I never converted any of it to My own Profit, but to the End of preserving the Dominion of the Seas, nor never intended it.

As for Property of Goods, it is a Thing I never but intended, and it is My Desire to be King of a free and a rich People; and, if no Property in Goods, no rich People I told the Commons, That, if they would speedily supply My Occasions for the present, I would give them further Time at Winter, to present and debate all their just Grievances. If they will not trust Me first, all My Business this Summer will be lost, and, before the Year goeth about I must be trusted at last; for, in the Winter, I must call them to give Me a greater Supply If the House of Commons will not join to prefer My Occasions before their Grievances, I conjure your Lordships to consider your own Honours and Mine, and the preposterous Course of the House of Commons; and desire that your Lord ships will not join with them, but leave them to themselves I desire you to be careful in this Point, else, if the Supply come not in Time, I will not say what Mischief may and must follow."

After this, His Majesty departed, and the Lord Keeper delivered, by Command, to the Lords one Particular, which His Majesty forgot; which was, " (fn. 1) That their Lordships would determine, before they parted, that which His Majesty propounded."

Message from the House of Commons.

The Gentleman Usher acquainted the Lords, That some of the House of Commons were come with a Message.

The Gentleman Usher was commanded to tell them, That their Lordships were very busy; and that they will send them a Reason by Messengers of their own, why they did not receive their Message now.

Answer.

Whereupon a Message was sent to the House of Commons, by the Two Lord Chief Justices, to let them know, That, when their Message was offered, the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, in the High Court of Parliament assembled, were entered into great Consideration about Business much concerning His Majesty; His Majesty being present with them in Person this Morning, which is the Cause why their Lordships did not receive their Message now.

The Two Lord Chief Justices reported, That, according to then Lordships Commands, they had delivered the Message to the House of Commons.

King s Speech debated.

It was moved, That the whole House might be put into a Committee, that every Lord might speak his Mind, and to be adjourned during Pleasure; which was consented to.

And their Lordships taking into Consideration that which His Majesty delivered to them this Morning, and after long and great Debate and Consideration, the House was again resumed, and these Two Questions were agreed upon to be proposed to the House:

Lords Resolutions touching the Supply to be first considered of.

First, "As many of your Lordships as are of Opi nion His Majesty's Supply should have Precedency, and be resolved of, before any other Matter whatsoever, say "Content."

"As many of your Lordships as think fit there should be a Conference desired with the House of Commons, to dispose them thereunto, say, "Content."

Then it was moved, That it might be put to the Question, Whether of those Two Propositions should be first put to the Question, which being done, it was resolved, That the First Proposition should be first put to the Question.

Then the First Question was put, and carried by the Contents.

And likewise the Second Question carried in like Manner.

Adjourn.

Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem craftinum, videlicet, diem Sabbati, 25^m diem instantis Aprilis, hora nona Aurora, Dominis sic decernentibus.