House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 27 February 1643

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 5, 1642-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Lunæ, videlicet, 27 Februarii.

PRAYERS.

Earl of Manchester, Speaker.

Messengers, a Pass.

Ordered, That the Messengers that carry Writs concerning the King's Debts shall have a Pass, to go quietly, and under Safe Conduct.

Ravenscrost; a Protection:

Ordered, That Mr. Ravenscroft shall have a Protection from this House, to keep his House in Huntingdon from Plundering, he being One employed in the Service of the Earl of Manchester.

Branthwaite's Petition.

The Petition of Richard Branthwayte was read, and Ordered to be granted; giving Security to the Gentleman Usher to appear before this (fn. 1) House within Fourteen Days after Notice [ (fn. 2) given him] from this House.

(Here enter it.)

Preamble, &c. to the Articles for the Cessation of Arms.

Next, the Preamble and Conclusion to the Articles for the Cessation of Arms to be presented to the King, ordered on Saturday last to be taken into Consideration this Day, was read, and debated:

And the Earl of Northumb.
Earl Holland,
Earl Pembrooke, and the
Lord Viscount Say & Seale.

Were appointed to withdraw, and make the Alterations according to the Sense of this House upon the Debate.

Mr. Marten, a Pass to France.

Ordered, That Mr. Marten shall have a Pass, with Two Servants, to go into France.

Articles for the Cessation of Arms, reported.

The Lords Committees returned; and the Earl of Northumb. reported the Alterations; videlicet, ["in order to such a Treaty as is resolved upon by both Houses of Parliament"].

Which being approved of by this House, it was Ordered, To be communicated to the House of Commons, by a Conference.

Message to the H. C. for a Conference about them.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Serjeant Whitfeild and Mr. Serjeant Glanvile:

To desire a Conference, in the Painted Chamber, concerning the Articles concerning the Cessation.

Petition from the Isle of Wight.

A Petition to both Houses was read, from the Knights, Gentlemen, and others, Inhabitants of the Isle of Wight.

(Here enter it.)

Sent to the H. C.

Which was sent down to the House of Commons, by Dr. Aylitt and Dr. Heath, to be communicated unto them.

Rayner, for Words against the King.

Upon reading the Affidavits of Jane Mares and Judith Perkins, and the Information of Thomas Wells, "That Edmond Rayner, of Lambeth, Shipwright, hath spoken presumptuous Words against the King's Majesty, That he was as much the Lord's Anointed as the King (meaning His Majesty):"

Hereupon the House (fn. 3) Ordered, That Mr. Justice Reeves shall hereby have Power to call the said Rayner before him, and the Informer and Witnesses, and examine the whole Business, and report the same to this House.

The Messengers return with this Answer:

That they have delivered the Petition concerning the Isle of Wight, to the House of Commons.

Order for 30l. to Captain Cupper.

Next, was read an Order concerning the Payment of Thirty Pounds to Captain Cupper, for Beef. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

Answer from the H. C.

The Messengers return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they will give a present Conference, as is desired, in the Painted Chamber.

The House of Commons being ready for the Conference, this House was adjourned during Pleasure.

The House was resumed.

To fit P. M.

Ordered, That this House shall fit this Afternoon, at Four of the Clock.

Message to the H. C. to acquaint them with it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Dr. Bennett and Dr. Heath:

To let the House of Commons know, that this House is adjourned to Four of the Clock this Afternoon.

Petition of the Isle of Wight, for Defence of the Island.

"To the Right Honourable the Lords, Knights, and Burgesses, in both Houses of Parliament assembled.

"The humble Petition of the Knights, Gentlemen, and other the Inhabitants, of the Isle of Wight;

"Sheweth,

"That the Petitioners are credibly informed, that Foreign Enemies are prepared, to come to invade this Island; that the Island is in great Danger, by Want of all Sorts of Provisions of Ammunition for Defence.

"The Petitioners humbly pray, that the Monies given amongst us for the Defence of our Island may be, by your Approbation, employed to the said Use; as also the Second Payment of the last Subsidy ordained by Parliament may remain in the said Island, to be wholly employed towards the Defence and Safety thereof, as in your Wisdoms you shall please to direct.

"That a Supply of Ordnance, Muskets, Match, Powder, Bullets, Corslets, with all Necessaries thereunto, may be speedily sent into the said Island, for a Magazine; and there to issue out for the Forts and Castles there.

"That Ships may be sent down, for the Safe-guard and Defence of the said Isle against any Invasion.

"That you would be pleased, by your Commands, to renew our ancient Order, That the neighbouring Companies of Hampshire may be speedily ready, to come timely to assist us, upon any Alarm given in the Island.

"And the Petitioners will not only do their uttermost in their right Employment of the said Monies; but they and their Posterities shall be bound to pray, &c."

Order for 30l. to Captain Cupper, for Beef.

"Whereas it appeareth, by the Certificate of John Hodder Esquire, Commissary of Victuals for the fixed Magazine at Corke, in Ireland, to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, testified under the Hand of the Lord Inchiquine, and dated the last Day of October, 1642, this Day presented, that Captain Thomas Cupper hath delivered into His Majesty's Stores there Twenty Barrels of Beef, at Thirty Shillings the Barrel, amounting in the whole to the Sum of Thirty Pounds, to be paid unto the said Captain Thomas Cupper, or his Assigns, within Thirty Days after the Sight of the said Certificate (the Second not being paid), out of the Chamber of London, according to the Order of Parliament in that Behalf published in Print: It is Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That the Receivers of the Adventurers-money for Ireland, do forthwith pay unto Nicholas Loftus Esquire, Deputy Treasurer at Wars for that Kingdom, or his Agents here, the said Sum of Thirty Pounds, to be by him or them paid over to the said Captain Cupper, or his Assigns, in full Discharge of the said Beef so by him delivered as is cercertified, and according to the Order of Parliament in that Behalf."

Branthwaite's Petition for Leave to go into the Country.

"To the Right Honourable the Lords now assembled in Parliament.

"The humble Petition of Richard Branthwayte;

"Sheweth,

"That your Petitioner being, by your Lordships Order, bound not to stir out of the Cities of London and Westm. without your Lordships Leave, and having many very urgent and forcible Occasions to go unto his House unto the Country, and unto divers other Places, to raise Money, and to receive Rents, for the Payment of Debts and Engagements, by reason of some Trust reposed in him of others Estates, which, besides his own, have much suffered by his Absence from the Places of his Affairs, by reason of his long Imprisonment and Confinement:

"He humbly prayeth your Lordships Favour for his Enlargement, that he may go to his House in Oxfordshire, and unto divers other Shires, where his Business lies; [ (fn. 4) and he will give] all the Satisfaction he can, as in Honesty he is tled to do. This humble Request your Petitioner is the more emboldened to make, and is in Hope to obtain, in respect your Lordships were pleased lately to enlarge Mr. Bartholmewe Hone, to go to his House in Oxfordshire, he having been committed for the same Cause that your Petitioner was.

"And your Petitioner shall pray, &c.

"Rich. Branthwayte."

Adjourn.

House adjourned to 4a post meridiem.

Post meridiem.

PRAYERS.

Earl of Manch'er, Speaker.

Message from the H. C. for a Conference about the Cessation;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Thomas Barrington, Baronet; which consisted of these Particulars:

1. To desire a present Conference, if it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, touching the Articles of the Cessation that (fn. 5) are to be sent to the King.

Agreed, To give a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber.

and for Concurrence in Two Orders.

2. To desire Concurrence, that Peeter Stanley Esquire shall be a Deputy Lieutenant for the County of Chester.

Agreed to.

3. To desire Concurrence in an Order for paying of Fifteen Hundred Pounds to Sir Wm. Lewis, to satisfy the Arrears due to the Garrison at Portsmouth.

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer to the H. C.

That this House agrees to the Order for paying Fifteen Hundred Pounds to Sir Wm. Lewis; and agrees that Mr. Stanley shall be Deputy Lieutenant for the County of Chester; and that their Lordships will give a present Conference, as is desired, in the Painted Chamber.

Order for 1600l. to Sir Wm. Lewis.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the Treasurers for the Subscriptions in London do, by Monday Night next, pay unto Sir Gilbert Gherrard, Treasurer at Wars, the Sum of Fifteen Hundred Pounds, to be by him paid to Sir Wm. Lewis, or his Assigns, to satisfy the Arrears due to the Garrison at Portsmouth."

The House adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Conference about the Cessation reported.

The Speaker reported the Effect of this Conference: which was,

"That the House of Commons doth return the Articles for the Cessation, with some few Alterations; and they desire that the Preamble may stand as it came from them, else it would seem that the Parliament do not deal so clearly with the King.

"2. It would occasion a Delay; for the King will desire to know what the Votes are, concerning the Treaty.

"Further, that the House of Commons have looked over the Articles for the Cessation; and they think fit that some Alterations may be made, and some Things left out, in regard of some Things which have happened lately:

"1. That the Forces in Wilts may continue (fn. 6) in such Quarters as are or shall be in their Possession at the Time of the Publication; this to be left out, because this is included in the last Proposition.

Agreed to.

"2. That the Particular which concerns the Siege at Plymouth may be omitted, because the Siege is since raised."

Agreed to.

"3. Where the Time of the Cessation is to begin the Fourth of March, these Words to be added, ["or sooner, if it may be, and continue until the Twentyfifth of the same Month"].

Agreed to.

"4. Where the Time for the Commencing of the Treaty is to be on the Fourth of March, these Words are to be added ["or sooner, if it may be."]

Agreed.

"The House of Commons desires that these may be sent by an express Messenger; and, for saving of Time, they desire that their Lordships would name [ (fn. 6) a Committee] that shall treat with the King; and then the House of Commons will name a Committee of a proportionable Number, to join with them; and that the Messenger may carry their Names to the King, that He will please to give a Safe Conduct for their Going and Returning."

Ordered, That this House agrees with the House of Commons in the small Alterations, but adheres to their own Alterations in the Preamble; and to offer to send all the Resolutions agreed on by both Houses, concerning the Treaty and the Cessation of Arms to the King, to give Him a clearer Knowledge of what is Resolved of by both Houses; and then to have a Conference with the House of Commons concerning the same.

Message to the H. C. for a Conference.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Serjeant Glanvile and Serjeant Whitfeild:

To desire a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, To-morrow Morning, at Ten of the Clock, in the Painted Chamber.

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 10a cras.

Footnotes

  • 1. Origin. Use.
  • 2. Bis in Originali.
  • 3. Origin. Order.
  • 4. Deest in Originali.
  • 5. Origin. is.
  • 6. Deest in Originali.