House of Commons Journal Volume 10: 11 October 1690

Sabbati, 11 die Octobris; 2° Gulielmi et Mariæ.

Prayers.

Wentworth's Estate.

A PETITION of Susannah Wentworth, on Behalf of John Wentworth her Son, an Infant under the Age of Twenty-one Years, was read; setting forth, That the Petitioner, the Infant, is seized of some Lands in Morland in Com Westmorland, of about Seventy-four Pounds per Annum, which lieth adjoining to the Park of the Right honourable Sir John Lowther, and which has been much annoyed by his Deer, and several Suits may happen in relation thereunto; for the Avoiding whereof, the Petitioners have agreed with Sir John Lowther for Sale of the said Estate, he having bought other Part of the Petitioner's Estate, lying in Hutton Roofe, of Fiftythree Pounds per Annum: And that the said Premises lie about Sixty Miles from the Petitioner's other Estate: And for that, by reason of the Petitioner's Infancy, he cannot make a good Conveyance of the Premises, and praying Leave to bring in a Bill to vest the same in Trustees to be sold; and they to apply the Monies arising thereby for the Purchase of other Lands to the same Uses the Premises now are.

Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill according to the Prayer of the said Petition.

Bramber Election.

A Petition of Wm. Stringer, Esquire, was read; setting forth, That on the Fourth of March last, the Petitioner, Dr. Barbon, and Dr. Ratcliffe, stood Candidates at the Election for Bramber in the County of Suffolke: But that Dr. Barbon, and Dr. Ratcliffe, by undue Practices, procured themselves to be returned, in Wrong to the Petitioner: And praying the Consideration of the House in the Premises.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition be referred to the Committee of Privileges and Elections: Who are to examine the Matter thereof; and report the same, with their Opinions therein, to the House.

Southwarke Election.

A Petition of Sir Peter Rich and Sir Thomas Cooke was read; setting forth, That the Petitioners, with Anth. Bowyer, and John Arnold, Esquires, stood Candidates for the Borough of Southwarke, at the last Election of Members to serve in this present Parliament; where the Petitioners consented to all Methods they had proposed, upon Confidence it would produce a peaceable Poll: But, on the contrary, so many ill Practices were made use of by one of the other Candidates, and his Agents, against the Petitioners, and those that voted for them, that some Hundreds went away, and remain unpolled, in Prejudice to the Petitioners: And praying the Consideration of the House in the Premises.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition be referred to the Committee of Privileges and Elections: Who are to examine the Matter thereof; and report their Opinions therein to the House.

Recovery of Tythes.

Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill for the more easy Recovery of small Tythes.

And it is referred to Mr. Christy, Mr. Gwyn, Sir Tho. Lee, Mr. Serjeant Mountague, Mr. Solicitor General, Sir Cha. Porter, Mr. Biddulph, Mr. Beddingfeild, Mr. Finch, Sir Tho. Clarges, Sir Wm. Whitlock, Mr. Burdett, Mr. Chetwyn, or any Three of them, to prepare the same.

Commissioners of Accompts.

Ordered, That Sir Geo. Hutchins, Mr. P. Foley, Sir Tho. Clarges, Sir Sam. Bernadiston, Lord Falkland, Mr. Arnold, Sir Tho. Lee, Mr. Solicitor General, Sir Jos. Williamson, be added to Sir Wm. Whitlock, to prepare and bring in the Bill for the examining and taking the publick Accompts: And it is referred to them, or any Three of them.

Bullion.

Mr. Neale presented to the House a Bill to discourage the Exportation of Bullion, and to encourage the Importation thereof, and converting the same into the Coin of this Realm: And it was received.

Southwarke, Court of Conscience.

Mr. Bowyer also presented to the House a Bill for erecting a Court of Conscience for the Borough of Southwarke, and other Places within the Weekly Bills of Mortality in the County of Surrey: And the same was received.

Aulnage Duty.

Resolved, That a Committee be appointed to consider of the Abuses in collecting the Duty of Aulnage, and of a better Way for collecting the same; and also to consider of a Compensation to the Crown; and to report their Opinions therein to the House.

And it is referred unto Mr. Bockenham, Mr. Harbord, Sir John Key, Sir Rob. Davers, Mr. England, Mr. Blowfeild, Mr. Clarke, Sir Sam. Bernadiston, Mr. Fawkes, Sir Rob. Cotton, Mr. Papillion, Mr. May, Mr. Ryder, Sir Phillip Skippon, Mr. Bickerstaffe, Sir Ralph Dutton, Lord Ranelagh, Sir Jos. Williamson, Mr. Henley, Mr. Goldwell, Sir John Cotton, Mr. Glemham, Mr. Solicitor General, Sir John Bancks, Sir Cha. Bloys, Mr. Beddingfeild, Mr. Hopkins, Sir Cha. Gerard, Mr. Paul Foley, Mr. Foote Onslow, Sir Hen. Capell, Sir John Manwareing, Sir Ralph Dutton, Sir Cha. Sidley, Mr. Kenyon, Sir Walter Young, Sir Wm. Turner, Sir Tho. Littleton, Sir Fran. Guibon, Mr. Slater, Mr. Chadwick, Mr. Ash, Mr. Cary, Sir Rob. Nappier, Mr. Christy, Sir John Guise, Mr. Hawtry, Mr. Cooke, Mr. Manssell, Mr. Hawtry: And all that come are to have Voices: And they are to meet this Afternoon at Three of the Clock in the Speaker's Chamber: And to have Power to send for Persons, Papers, and Records.

Ordnance Accompts.

Sir Thomas Littleton acquainted the House, That he had several States and Accompts relating to the Office of Ordnance, to lay before them: And he delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were read; and are as followeth; viz.

Office of Ordnance.

Accompt of both Stores and Money, from the 1 Januarii 1688, to 30 June 1690, shewing the Debt of the said Office the 1st of January 1688; what Debts contracted from that Time to the 30th of June 1690, for Stores and other Services; what thereof paid; and the Debt remaining 30th June 1690; together with the Value of Stores, Primo Januarii 1688, and 30th June 1690, with the Decrease of Stores in ditto time; what Money remained in Cash 1 Januarii 1688; what received and paid from that time to the 30th of June 1690; and what then remained in Cash; the Increase of the Debt of the Office, and the total Charge of the same, from the said 1 Januarii 1688, to the 30th of June 1690.

Memorandum: That the Decrease of Stores, and the Charge of new Stores, from the last of December 1688 to the 30th of June 1690, amounting together to Five hundred Forty-one thousand Six hundred Sixty Pounds Twelve Shillings and Five-pence Half-peny, proceeds from the great Issues that have been made to Ireland, Scotland, the several Plantations, and the Fleet; a considerable Part of which may be returned against the End of the Service.

Memorandum: That the Six hundred Thirty thousand Seven hundred Six Pounds Eleven Shillings and Four-pence, said to be the Value of Stores at the 30th June 1690, chiefly consists of Ordnance and Ammunition, now remaining in, and absolutely necessary for the Defence of their Majesties Forts, Castles, and Garrisons. - Errors excepted.

T. Gardiner, H. Goodrick, John Charleton, C. Musgrave, Tho. Littleton, Wm. Poulter.

Ordnance Accompts.

Errors excepted.

H. Goodrick, John Charlton, Tho. Littleton, T. Gardiner, C. Musgrave, Wm. Boulter.

ACCOUNT of all Monies received and paid by the honourable Charles Bertie, Esquire, Treasurer and Paymaster to their Majesties Office of the Ordnance for their Majesties Service in that Office, from the 1 Januarii 1688 / 9 to the 30th of June 1690; as followeth; viz.

Office of Ordnance, 10 Oct. 1691.

An Account of Vessels taken up for their Majesties Service by the Office of the Ordnance, for the Transport of the Train of Artillery to Ireland; consisting of Ordnance, Mortars, and other Stores; and likewise Horses for the said Train, with the Tonage of each Vessel, and at what Rate per Mensem; computing what is due for the same to the 15th of February last, at which time they were turned over to the Commissioners of Transportation.

H. Goodricke, Wm. Boulter, C. Musgrave, John Charlton, Th. Gardiner, Th. Littleton.

Office of Ordnance, 10 Oct. 1690.

An Estimate of the Charge of the War in the Office of the Ordnance for Land and Sea Service, for the Year 1691.

Valuation of the Gunners Stores for a Ship of each Rate, which must be increased according to such Numbers as are designed to be added to the Fleet next Year.

H. Goodricke, John Charlton, T. Gardiner, T. Littleton, C. Musgrave, Wm. Boultier.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said States and Accompts be referred to the Committee of the whole House, who are to consider of the Supply to their Majesties.

Tryals for Treason.

A Bill to regulate Tryals in Cases of Treason, was read the Second time.

Resolved, That the Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House, upon the Debate of the House: And it is to be an Instruction to the said Committee, That they leave out the Word "Impeachment," throughout the Bill, and every thing relating to Impeachments.

Ordered, That the House will, upon Monday sevennight next, at Ten of the Clock in the Morning, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the said Bill.

Supply.

Then the House resolved into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Supply to their Majesties.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair.

Mr. Solicitor General took the Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Mr. Solicitor General reports from the said Committee, That they had made some further Progress in the Matter to them referred: And that they had directed him to move the House, That they may have Leave to sit again on Monday Morning next, to consider of the Supply for the Army.

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday Morning next, at Ten of the Clock, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to proceed in the Consideration of the Supply to their Majesties for the Army.

Publick Accompts.

Mr. Jepson acquainted the House, That he had (from the Lords Commissioners of the Treasury) the Abstracts which were directed to be made of the publick Accompts: And he delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were read; and are as followeth; viz.

The King and Queen's most Excellent Majesties, Debtors.

Per contra Creditors.

Publick Accompts.

By so much of the Principal Monies comprehended on the other Side, as hath been repaid between the 5th November 1688, and the 27th June 1690; viz.

Memorandum: There was received of the Treasurer of the Navy, the 4th December 1689, by special Appointment of the Right honourable the Lords of their Majesties Treasury, for building the Cooperage, the Sum of £.2,173. 2s. 6d.: Which said Sum hath been paid to Thomas Woodstock for the said Service.

ACCOMPT of MONEY paid to the Charge of Victualing their Majesties Navy, from 25th November 89, to 30th September 90, and of what owing in that Time.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Abstracts be referred to the Committee of the whole House, who are to consider of the Supply to their Majesties.

St. Ives Election.

A Petition of John Hawles, Esquire, was read; setting forth, That a Writ lately issued out for the Chusing of Two Burgesses to serve in this present Parliament for St. Ives in Com. Cornwall; at which Election the Majority of those Persons that had a legal Right to vote, voted for the Petitioner; and more would so have done, had they not been hindered by the pretended Mayor of the Town; and who hath returned James Praed, Esquire, and Wm. Harris, Esquire, as Burgesses for the said Borough: And praying the Consideration of the House in the Premises.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition be referred to the Committee of Privileges and Elections: Who are to examine the Matter thereof; and report the same, with their Opinions therein, to the House.

Making Militia useful.

Ordered, That Mr. Ryder be added to the Committee appointed to prepare and bring in a Bill for the better regulating and making the Militia of the Kingdom more useful.

And then the House adjourned till Monday Morning, Nine a Clock.