House of Commons Journal Volume 10: 28 June 1689

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 10, 1688-1693. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Veneris, 28 die Junii; 1° Willelmi et Mariæ.

Prayers.

Droitwich Salt works.

AN ingrossed Bill, sent down from the Lords, intituled, An Act for the better Regulating of the Salt-works at Droithwich, was read the Second time.

Resolved, That Counsel both for and against the Bill be heard at the Bar of this House upon Tuesday Morning next, the first Business.

Serjeant at Arm's Fees.

A Complaint being made to the House, That the Serjeant at Arms attending the House demands and takes Fees of Persons, for Counsels attending Committees:

Resolved, That a Committee be appointed, to examine what Fees are due to the Officers of the House, and report the same to the House.

And it is referred to Mr. Buscawen, Mr. Grey, Colonel Birch, Mr. Vaughan, Mr. Dalben, Mr. Vincent, Mr. Gwyn, Mr. Phil. Foley, Mr. Done, Mr. Papillion, Mr. Fenwick, Sir John Ernly, Sir Fra. Russell, Sir Rich. Newdigate, Major Vincent, Mr. Sandford, Sir Rich. Hart. Col. Berkly, Sir John Doyley, Mr. Thomson, Mr. Palmes, Mr. Mannoton, Sir John Wynn, Sir Cha. Raleigh, Mr. England, Sir John Carey, Mr. Bickerstaffe: And they are to meet this Afternoon, at Four of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber.

Army Arrears.

Mr. Done reports from the Committee, to whom the Petition of the Officers, Inn-keepers, and Clothiers, &c. that served, quartered, and cloathed the Army raised by an Act of Parliament in 1677, and disbanded by another Act in 1679, was referred, and to state the Matter to the House, That the Committee had examined into the Matter accordingly; and agreed upon a Report, which they had directed him to make to the House: Which he read in his Place, and afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table.

Resolved, That the Report do lie upon the Table, to be read and considered at a Time convenient for that Purpose.

Bankrupts.

A Bill concerning Bankrupts, was read the Second time.

Resolved, That the Bill be committed to Mr. Papillion, Mr. Ellwell, Mr. Dalben, Sir Rich. Newdigate, Sir Rob. Davers, Mr. Thomson, Mr. Bickerstaffe, Major Manley, Mr. Done, Mr. Blowfeild, Sir John Doyly, Mr. Parker, Sir John Cary, Mr. Gwyn, Sir Edw. Harley, Mr. Jepson, Sir Matth. Andrewes, Sir Tho. Dyke, Mr. Grey, Mr. Phil. Foley, Sir Fra. Russell, Mr. Hobby, Mr. Buscawen, Sir Patience Ward, Mr. Pollexfen, Lord Falkland, Mr. Fuller, Serjeant Trenchard, Mr. Sandford: And all the Members that serve for the City of London; and all that come, to have Voices: And they are to meet To-morrow, at Four of the Clock in the Afternoon.

Prohibiting Trade with France.

A Bill for preventing the Importation of French Goods, was read the First time.

Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time on Monday Morning next, the first Business.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Sir Hen. Hobart have Leave to go into the Country, for a Month.

Irish Protestants.

Resolved, That the House do, To-morrow Morning, take into Consideration a Way for Relief of the Irish Protestants.

Recovery of Tythes.

Ordered, That the Bill for the more easy Recovery of small Tythes, be read the Third time To-morrow Morning, the first Business.

Exceptions in Bill of Indemnity.

Then the Order for Proceeding in the further Consideration of the Heads of Exceptions in the Bill of Indemnity, was read.

Privilege- taking a Member into Custody.

And also the Order touching the Report upon the Attendance on the Earl of Nottingham.

Resolved, That the said Report be now read.

The Report was read, and is as followeth; viz.

The Question proposed by the Members of the House of Commons. My Answer to these Questions.
1. Whether it be my Warrant? 1. Yes.
2. What was the Information upon which it was granted? 2. Upon Friday last in the Afternoon, I was informed, from a very good Hand, that my Lord Danby had fitted a Small Vessel to Sea; and put Arms on board her, upon some Design unknown even to his nearest Relations, and without any Commission authorizing him so to do; and that a Wherry was ready, by his Appointment, at the Water-side, to carry him away.
3. By whom was the Information given? 3. The Lord President.
4. Whether the Information was taken upon Oath and in Writing? 4. Not upon Oath; for besides that there was not Time nor Opportunity for it, I acknowledge I did not apprehend it was necessary, the late Act supplying the Want of an Oath; and in this I hope I am not mistaken: Nor was the Information in Writing otherwise than as I set down myself, for my own Memory and Justification.
5. What were the Reasons that moved you to release him? 5. Upon Examination of my Lord Danby, he gave me this Account, That it was true there was a Vessel fitted by him, but it was no other than that which had been formerly his own Yacht; and there were Arms on board of her, but they were the same, and no more than what had been put there some time ago: That there was a Boat ready to carry him to the Yacht; but that, as he had heretofore made use of her for his Diversion, so he intended to do now, without any Design that was in the least criminal.

This seemed to me so very ingenuous a Relation, that comparing it with other Circumstances, and considering his Behaviour in contributing to our present Establishment, I could do no less than immediately discharge him; which is an Answer also to the Sixth Question; viz.

6. Whether he was released upon Bail? 6. That he was released without Bail; though indeed he gave me his Word and Honour to appear, if there should be occasion to summon.

Resolved, That the granting the Warrant now produced to arrest the Earl of Danby, a Member of this House, and the taking him into Custody by virtue of that Warrant, is a Breach of the Privilege of this House.

Then the House taking Notice that the Warrant issued forth by the Earl of Nottingham, for the Apprehending the Earl of Danby, was dated the Twentieth of this Instant June, which was Thursday; and that the Earl of Nottingham, in his Answer to the Questions proposed to him relating to the said Warrant, says, That the Information against the said Earl of Danby was given him on Friday last.

Ordered, That the said Members of the House, that before attended the Earl of Nottingham, do again attend his Lordship, and desire to know of him the Time when he received the said Information.

Message to attend the King.

A Message from his Majesty, by Sir Thomas Duppa, Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod;

Mr. Speaker,

The King commands this honourable House to attend his Majesty in the House of Peers, immediately.

Accordingly Mr. Speaker and the House went to attend his Majesty: And being returned,

Mr. Speaker acquaints the House, That his Majesty was pleased to make a Speech to both Houses, which was of some Length; and that the Noise in the House of Peers was great, so that he could not hear the same distinctly; And that therefore he had desired and obtained a Copy thereof: Which he read, and is as followeth:

My Lords and Gentlemen,

The King's Speech.

THE Time of the Year being so far advanced, and there being several Acts yet to be passed for the Safety and Settlement of the Nation, I desire you would expedite them as soon as you can, it being necessary there should shortly be a Recess, both that I may be at Liberty to pursue the Business of Ireland with all possible Vigour, and that the Members of both Houses may repair to their several Counties, to secure the Peace, and to put the Militia into some better Posture.

I am very sensible of the Zeal and good Affection, which you, Gentlemen of the House of Commons, have shewed to the Publick in giving those Supplies you have done already; and I do not doubt, but, from the same Inducements, you will be ready to give more as the Occasions require; which, I must let you know, will be sooner perhaps than you may expect, because the necessary Expence of this Year will much exceed the Sums you have yet provided for it. And, that you may make the truer Judgment in that Matter, I am very willing you should see how all the Monies have been hitherto laid out: And to that End I have commanded those Accounts to be speedily brought to you; by which you will see how very little of the Revenue has been applied to any other Use, than that of the Navy and the Land Forces.

I must remind you of making an effectual and timely Provision of the Money for the States of Holland; and I doubt not but you will take care to see a fitting Revenue settled for Myself.

My Lords and Gentlemen,

I will add no more, but to recommend earnestly to you, to avoid all Occasions of Dispute, or Delay, at a Time that requires Union and Vigour in your Counsels, upon which the Preservation of all that is dear to us doth so much depend: And I do promise, that nothing shall ever be wanting on my Part, which may contribute towards it.

Leave for a Member to attend Lords.

Ordered, That Lord Commissioner Maynard have Leave to attend the House of Lords, in a Case between the Lord Chief Baron, and the Lords Commissioners of the Great Seal, about Settling of Fees upon Writs passing the Great Seal.

Ordered, That Mr. Solicitor General have Leave to attend the Lords in that Matter.

Thanks for Speech.

Resolved, Nemine contradicente, That the humble Thanks of this House be returned to his Majesty, by such Members thereof, as are of his Majesty's most honourable Privy Council, for his gracious Speech this Day to both Houses.

Answer to Addresses.

Mr. Hamden acquaints the House, That he, with others of his Majesty's Privy Council, had, according to the Order of the House, attended his Majesty with their Address, That the considerable Papists or reputed Papists of this Kingdom may be forthwith taken into Custody, and the Arms and Horses of all Papists and reputed Papists be searched for and seized: And that his Majesty was pleased to answer, That he would use all Means he could, to secure this Kingdom from any Danger that might arise from Papists or reputed Papists, or any other that shall disturb the Peace of the Government.

Sir Henry Capell acquaints the House, That he, with others of his Majesty's Privy Council, had, according to the Order of the House, attended his Majesty with their Address of Thanks for his gracious communicating to this House divers Letters, and other Papers, which were intercepted coming from Ireland: And that his Majesty was pleased to say, He was glad of any thing he did, that gave Satisfaction to this House.

Sir Henry Capell also acquaints the House, that he, with others of his Majesty's Privy Council, had, according to the Order of the House, attended his Majesty with their Address, that his Majesty would be pleased to give Leave, that some Members of this House may inspect the Books of the Privy Council, and the Books of the Irish Committee, and take Copies of all Orders and Instructions therein relating to the Irish Affair: And that his Majesty took it into his Hand, and said, He had likewise an Address from the Lords to that Purpose, which he had given no Answer to; and that thereupon he the said Sir Henry Capell supposed he would consider of both.

Mr. Hamden acquaints the House, That he had another Address from the House, that his Majesty would be pleased to acquaint this House, what Numbers of Ships and what Number of Men and Guns to each Ship, the States of the United Provinces have set forth, and are obliged to set forth, for this Summer's Expedition, in Conjunction with his Majesty's Fleet: But that his Majesty being last Night late in Council, he had not Time to present it.

Supply Bill; Coffee, Tea, &c.

Resolved, That the House do, To-morrow Morning, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the Bill for laying an additional Custom upon Coffee, Tea, and Chocolate.

Supply Bill; Excise.

Resolved, That the House do, To-morrow Morning, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the Bill for an additional Excise.

Preventing Export of Wool.

Ordered, That Sir Charles Blois and Mr. Blowfeild be added to the Committee to whom the Bill for the preventing the Exportation of Wool is re-committed.

Exceptions in Bill of Indemnity.

Resolved, That the House do, upon Monday Morning next, proceed in the further Consideration of the Heads of Exceptions in the Bill of Indemnity.

Privilege-Action against a Member.

Mr. Palmes, a Member of this House, complaining, That Richard Thorpe, an Attorney at Law, hath this Trinity Term, made Oath in the Common Pleas at Westminster of the Delivery of several Declarations in Ejectments to several of the Tenants of the said Mr. Palmes in the County of Yorke; and moved the Court of Common Pleas for an Appearance, and obtained Rules thereupon, that unless the said Tenants or some other Persons claiming Title to the Premises in Question, should appear on Tuesday next after the said Trinity Term, and receive Declarations, and plead the General Issue, and consent to Rules, to confess Lease, Entry, and Ouster, Judgment would be given against the casual Ejector; whereupon the said Mr. Palmes and his Tenants were forced to enter their Appearances in the said Court: And Mr. Palmes hath pleaded accordingly, to prevent Judgment against the Casual Ejector; and to save him and his Tenants from being turned out of Possession.

Ordered, That the Matter of the said Complaint of Breach of Privilege be heard at the Bar of the House on Monday Morning next: And that the said Thorpe do then attend.

And then the House adjourned till To-morrow Morning, Eight of the Clock.