House of Commons Journal Volume 9: 25 March 1673

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 9, 1667-1687. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Martis, 25 die Martii, 1673.

Prayers.

Cage's Estate.

A BILL, on the Behalf of Seckford Cage an Infant, to sell Lands for Payment of Debts, was read a First time.

Resolved, &c. That the Bill be read a Second time.

Bellamy's Estate.

A Bill, sent from the Lords, to enable Robert Bellamy to sell Lands for Payment of Debts, was read a Second time.

Resolved, &c. That the Bill be committed to Mr. Morrice, Lord Richardson, Sir Thom. Dolman, Mr. Newport, Mr. Daniell, Sir Edward Masters, Sir Solomon Swale, Sir Edward Deering, Sir Wm. Bucknall, Mr. Head, Sir Trevor Williams, Sir Thomas Allen, Mr. Collins, Mr. Love, Sir Tho. Meeres, Sir Lancelott Lake, Sir John Heath, Sir Wm. Doyley, Sir John Mallett, Mr. Crouch, Sir Thomas Allen, Mr. Collins, Colonel Birch, Mr. Mountague, Mr. Solicitor, Serj. Seis, Mr. Deny, Sir John Elwayes, Sir John Hanmer, Mr. Mallett, Sir Wm. Thompson, Mr. Turges, Sir John Fredericke, Mr. Tulse: And they are to meet To-morrow in the Afternoon, in the Speaker's Chamber; and to peruse the Deeds and Evidences concerning the Estate; and to take care, that there be effectual Provision made for the Payment of the Debts: And to send for Persons, Papers, and Records.

A Witness discharged.

Resolved, &c. That * Gibbon be discharged of his Attendance on the Committee of Privileges and Elections, till after the Recess.

Selling Cattle.

Sir Anthony Irby reports from the Committee to which the Bill for Repeal of a Clause in a former Act for prohibiting the Sale of fat Cattle by Jobbers, was committed, some Amendments agreed by the Committee to be made to the Bill: Which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were twice read; and, upon the Question, severally agreed.

Resolved, &c. That the said Bill, with the Amendments agreed to, be ingrossed.

Greenland, &c. Trade.

Sir George Downing reports from the Committee to which the Bill for regulating the Greenland and Plantation Trade, and the Clause for Improvement of the Eastland Trade, was committed, several Amendments agreed by the Committee to be made to the said Bill and Clause: Which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same being twice read, were, upon the Question, severally agreed.

Resolved, &c. That the said Bill and Clause, with the Amendments agreed, be ingrossed.

London Streets and Sewers.

Sir John Mallet reports from the Committee to which the Bill for the better Paving and Cleansing the Streets and Sewers in and about the City of London. . several Amendments agreed by the Committee to be made to the Bill, and Two Clauses to be added thereto: Which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where they were once read.

Conference with Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir John Coell and Sir Wm. Beversham;

Mr. Speaker, The Lords have commanded us to acquaint you, that they desire a present Conference with this House, in the Painted Chamber, upon the Subject Matter of the last Conference.

The Messengers being called in; Mr. Speaker did acquaint them, That the House had agreed to confer with the Lords presently, in the Painted Chamber.

Mr. Attorney General reports, from the Conference had with the Lords, That the Lords had agreed with this House to their Amendments and Provisoes, except Two; viz. That, for including the Queen's Servants; and That for having the Clause stand against the Entering a Nonvult ulterius prosequi,

And, the Matter being debated, the House did, upon the Question, severally agree with the Lords.

And then the House adjourned till Three of the Clock, Afternoon.

Post Meridiem.

Hythe Election.

RESOLVED, &c. That the Matter, touching the Election for the Port of Hyeth, be put off till the Thursday Sevennight, after the Recess: And all Persons concerned discharged of their Attendance.

Rich's Marriage Articles.

A Bill, sent from the Lords, to confirm Articles of Agreement, made upon the Marriage of Sir Wm. Rich, Baronet, was read the Second time.

Resolved, &c. That the Bill be committed to Lord Cavendish, Sir Charles Harbord, Mr. Morice, Sir Lan. Lake, Sir Edw. Masters, Mr. Guy, Mr. Daniell, Sir John Knight, Sir Anth. Irby, Sir John Holland, Sir Bainham Throgmorton, Sir Robert Carr, Sir John Shaw, Mr. Hopkins, Lord Fanshaw, Sir Hum. Wynch, Sir Gilb. Gerrard, Sir John Frederick, Sir Tho. Allen, Sir Tho. Doleman, Sir Fran. Lawley, Sir Trevor Williams, Colonel Fox, Sir Sol. Swale, Sir John Brampston, Lord Hawley, Sir John Barnaby, Mr. Goreing, Sir Tho. Higgons, Sir Adam Browne, Sir Edw. Harley, Mr. Mountague, Mr. Bertue: And they are to meet To-morrow Morning at Seven of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber: And to send for Persons, Papers, and Records.

London Streets and Sewers.

The House then proceeded in the Amendments and Clauses reported from the Committee to be made and added to the Bill for the Paving and Cleansing the Streets and Sewers of the City of London.

And the Amendments were read the Second time; and upon the Question, severally agreed.

The First Clause, marked (A), was read the Second time; and debated.

Bills sent from Lords.

A Message from the Lords by Sir Mond. Brampston and Sir William Beversham;

Mr. Speaker, The Lords have sent you down Two Bills; the one intituled, An Act to enable Sir Wm. Hanham to sell Lands, for Payment of Debts: and the other, An Act to enable Sir John Elwayes to sell Lands, for Payment of Debts: To which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

London Streets and Sewers.

Resolved, &c. That the Debate of the Amendments and Clauses to the Bill for the Paving and Cleansing the Streets and Sewers of the City of London, be adjourned till after the Report made concerning Grievances.

Address of Remonstrance on Grievances.

Mr. Powle reports from the Committee, Two Addresses, drawn up in Writing: Which he read in his Place; and after delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were again read; and then read a Second time; and, upon the Question, severally agreed to, as they were read by Paragraphs; and are as followeth; viz.

WE Your Majesty's most loyal Subjects, the Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, conceiving ourselves bound, in necessary Duty to Your Majesty, and in Discharge of the Trust reposed in us, truly to inform Your Majesty of the Estate of this Your Kingdom; and, though we are abundantly satisfied, that it hath always been Your Royal Will and Pleasure, that Your Subjects should be governed according to the Laws and Customs of this Realm; yet, finding, that, contrary to Your Majesty's gracious Intentions, some Grievances and Abuses are crept in; we crave Leave humbly to represent them to Your Majesty's Knowledge; and to desire,

That the Imposition of Twelve-pence a Chaldron upon Coal, for the providing of Convoys, by virtue of an Order of Council, dated the 15th May 1672, may be recalled; and all Bonds, taken by virtue thereof, cancelled:

That Your Majesty's Proclamation, of the 4th of December 1672, for Prevention of Disorders which may be committed by Soldiers; and whereby the Soldiers, now in Your Majesty's Service, are, in a manner, exempted from the ordinary Course of Justice, may likewise be recalled.

And, whereas great Complaints have been made, out of several Parts of this Kingdom, of divers Abuses, committed in Quartering of Soldiers, That Your Majesty would be pleased to give Order to redress those Abuses; and, in particular, that no Soldiers be hereafter quartered upon any private Houses; and that due Satisfaction may be given to the Inn-keepers and Victuallers where they lie, before they remove.

And, since the Continuance of Soldiers in this Realm will necessarily produce many Inconveniencies to Your Majesty's Subjects, we do humbly present it as our Petition and Advice, That when this present War is ended. all the Soldiers, which have been raised since the last Session of Parliament, may be disbanded:

That your Majesty would likewise be pleased to consider of the Irregularities and Abuses of pressing Soldiers; and to give Order for the Prevention thereof for the future.

And, although it hath been the Course of former Parliaments to desire Redress in their Grievances, before they proceeded to give a Supply; yet we have so full Assurance of Your Majesty's Tenderness and Compassion towards Your People, that we humbly prostrate ourselves at Your Majesty's Feet with these our Petitions; desiring Your Majesty to take them into Your Princely Consideration; and to give such Order for Relief of the Subjects, and the Removing these Pressures, as shall seem best to Your Royal Wisdom.

Address on Irish Affairs.

WE Your Majesty's most loyal Subjects, the Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, taking into Consideration the great Calamities which have formerly befallen Your Majesty's Kingdom of Ireland, from the Popish Recusants there, who, for the most part, are professed Enemies to the Protestant Religion, and the English Interest; and how they, making ill Use of Your Majesty's gracious Disposition and Clemency, are, at this Time, grown more insolent and presumptuous than formerly, to the apparent Danger of that Kingdom, and Your Majesty's Protestant Subjects there; the Consequence thereof may likewise prove very fatal to this Your Kingdom of England, if not timely prevented; and having seriously weighed, what Remedies may be most properly applied to these growing Distempers; do in all Humility present Your Majesty with these our Petitions:

That, for establishing and quieting the Possessions of Your Majesty's Subjects in that Kingdom, Your Majesty would be pleased to maintain the Act of Settlement, and the Explanatory Act thereupon; and to recal the Commission of Inquiry into Irish Affairs, bearing Date the Seventeenth of January last; as containing many new and extraordinary Powers, not only to the Prejudice of particular Persons, whose Estates and Titles are thereby made liable to be questioned; but, in a manner, to Your Overthrow of the said Acts of Settlement; and, if pursued, may be the Occasion of great Charge and Attendance to many of Your Subjects in Ireland; and shake the Peace and Security of the whole Kingdom:

That Your Majesty would give Order, that no Papist be either continued or admitted to be a Commander or Soldier in that Kingdom: And, that because the Irish Papists have furnished themselves with great Quantities of Arms, That Your Majesty would please to give Directions so to disarm them, that they may not be dangerous to the Government there; and that their Arms be brought into the publick Magazine.

That the like Order may be given, that no Papist be either continued, or hereafter admitted to be Judges, Justices of the Peace, Sheriffs, Coroners, Mayors, Sovereigns, or Portreves in that Kingdom.

That the titular Popish Archbishops, Bishops, Vicars General, Abbots, and all other exercising Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction, by the Pope's Authority, and in particular Peter Talbott, pretended Archbishop of Dublin, for his notorious Disloyalty to Your Majesty, and Disobedience and Contempt of Your Laws, may be commanded by Proclamation forthwith to depart out of Ireland, and all other Your Majesty's Dominions; or otherwise to be prosecuted according to Law: And that all Convents, Seminaries, and publick Popish Schools may be dissolved and suppressed, and the Regular Priests commanded to depart, under the like Penalty.

That no Irish Papists be admitted to inhabit in any Corporation of that Kingdom, unless duly licensed, according to the aforesaid Acts of Settlement: And that Your Majesty would be pleased to recal Your Letters of the 26th of February 1671, and Your Proclamation thereupon; whereby general Licence is given to such Papists to inhabit in Corporations there.

That Your Majesty's Letter of the 28th of September 1672, and the Order of Council thereupon, whereby Your Majesty's Subjects are required, not to prosecute any Actions against the Irish, for any Wrongs or Injuries committed during the late Rebellion, may likewise be recalled.

That Colonel Richard Talbott, who hath notoriously assumed to himself the Title of Agent of the Roman Catholicks in Ireland, be immediately dismissed out of all Command, either Civil or Military; and forbid an Access to Your Majesty's Court.

That Your Majesty would be pleased, from time to time, out of Your Princely Wisdom, to give such further Orders and Directions to Your Lord Lieutenant, or other chief Governor of Ireland for the Time being, as may best conduce to the Encouragement of the English Planters, and Protestant Interest there; and the Suppression of the Insolencies and Disorders of the Irish Papists.

These our humble Desires we present to Your Majesty, as the best Means to preserve the Peace and Safety of That Your Kingdom, which hath been so much of late endangered by the Practices of the said Irish Papists, and particularly of the said Richard and Peter Talbott: And we doubt not but Your Majesty will find the happy Effects thereof, to the great Satisfaction and Security of Your Majesty's Person and Government; which of all earthly Things is most dear to Us Your Majesty's most loyal and obedient Subjects.

Resolved, &c. That the Addresses be presented to his Majesty: And that those Members that are of his Majesty's Privy Council, do attend his Majesty, to know his Pleasure when this House shall attend him with the Addresses concerning Grievances.

London Streets and Sewers.

The House then resumed the Debate of the Bill for paving the Streets and Sewers of the City of London.

The First Proviso marked (A), was read; and, upon the Question, rejected.

The Second Proviso was twice read; and agreed to be added to the Bill, with these Words left out, "as also all Monies payable for Hackney Coaches, as aforesaid."

Ordered, That this Proviso be added to the said Bill;

"Provided that this Act shall continue and stand in Force for the Space of Seven Years; and from thence to the End of the next Session of Parliament, and no longer."

Parret, &c. Navigation.

A Bill, sent from the Lords, to make the Rivers Parret and Thone navigable, from the Port of Bridgewater to Taunton, and thence to Bradford Bridge, was read a First time.

Resolved, &c. That the said Bill be read a Second time.

Hanham's Estate.

A Bill, sent from the Lords, intituled, An Act to enable Sir Wm. Hanham to sell Lands for Payment of Debts, was read a Second time.

Resolved, &c. That the Bill be committed to Sir Lancelot Lake, Sir Richard Francklyn, Sir Trevor Williams, Mr. Palmes, Sir Philip Musgrave, Mr. Hales, Sir John Covert, Sir John Hanmer, Mr. Waldron, Sir John Lowther, Mr. Harrison, Lord Richardson, Mr. Marrice, Sir Solomon Swale, Sir Robert Dillington, Sir Thomas Allen, Mr. Westphaling, Sir Edw. Massey, Mr. Crouch, Sir Edw. Masters, Mr. Swanton, Mr. Neale, Colonel Birch, Mr. Cheney, Sir Charles Sidley, Mr. Norton: And they are to meet To-morrow at Two of the Clock in the Afternoon, in the Speaker's Chamber: And to send for Persons, Papers, and Records.

And then the House adjourned till To-morrow Morning, Eight of the Clock.