House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 22 June 1646

Die Lunæ, 22 Junii, 1646.

Prayers.

THE House being informed, That a Suit was commenced, in the Merchant-Adventurers Court at Rotterdam in Holland, by one Gabriel Rudd, against Mr. Peregrine Pelham, a Member of this House, and Mr. Edward Bolle, his Factor there; and that Mr. Pelham is willing to wave his Privilege as to any Suit or Action to be commenced against him in any the Courts at Westminster-Hall;

It is thereupon Resolved, &c. That Mr. Peregrine Pelham, being a Member of this House, and having Privilege of Parliament, ought not to be sued or molested in the Merchant-Adventurers Court at Rotterdam: And . . . . doth Order, That the said Mr. Peregrine Pelham, and Mr. Edward Bolles, and all other the Factors, Servants, and Agents of the said Mr. Peregrine Pelham, shall be, and are, protected, and have Privilege of Parliament; and shall not be molested or sued for any Matter or Thing whatsoever, concerning the said Mr. Peregrine Pelham, in the said Merchant-Adventurers Court at Rotterdam, or elsewhere beyond the Seas; he the said Mr. Pelham being willing to wave his Privilege as to any Suit to be brought against him in any the Courts at Westminster-Hall by the said Gabriel Rudd.

Ordered, That Sir Thomas Walsingham, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Ordered, That Mr. Spelman, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Resolved, &c. That John Hanbury, Nicolas Webb, and John Dorney, Esquires, and Gabriel Beck Gentleman, shall be, and are hereby, added to the Committees for the County of Gloucester, and for the City of Gloucester.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Ordered, That Mr. Whitelock be added to the Committee, appointed, on Saturday last, to consider of, and bring in, an Ordinance concerning Committees, and Instructions for the Judges: And that the Care of the Ordinance concerning Committees be referred to Mr. Whitelock and Mr. Strode: And are to meet upon it this Afternoon.

A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath;

The Lords have commanded us to put you in mind of a Business, formerly sent to this House, concerning Mr. Charles Howard of the North.

Resolved, &c. That, upon the Payment of Four thousand Pounds, Mr. Charles Howard shall be discharged of his Delinquency.

Resolved, &c. That, upon the Payment of Four thousand Pounds by Mr. Charles Howard, for a Fine, for his Delinquency, unto the Committee of the Revenue, he the said Mr. Charles Howard, and his Estate, shall be discharged of the Sum of Four thousand Pounds, payable for the Wardship of his deceased Brother: And that an Ordinance be brought in for granting the said Mr. Charles Howard a Pardon for his said Delinquency; and also an Ordinance for discharging him and his Estate from the said Four thousand Pounds, payable for the Wardship of his said deceased Brother accordingly.

Sir Thomas Widdrington is appointed to bring in these Ordinances.

Mr. Holles is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire them to hasten the Propositions.

Sir Thomas Widdrington reports from the Conference on Saturday last * * * *.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Dell, being the General's Chaplain, who brought the Articles for the Surrender of Oxford, shall have the Sum of Fifty Pounds bestowed upon him for his Pains: And that the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies, sitting at HaberdashersHall, do pay him the said Fifty Pounds accordingly.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That Thomas Threder, Servant to Mr. Bedford, who brought the News of the Agreement for Surrender of Oxford, shall have the Sum of Twenty Pounds bestowed upon him for his Pains: And that the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies, sitting at Haberdashers-Hall, do pay him the said Twenty Pounds accordingly.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Heath, the Messenger who also brought News of the Agreement for Surrender of Oxford, shall have the Sum of Thirty Pounds bestowed upon him for his Pains, and in Consideration of his Losses in a former Journey: And that the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies, sitting at HaberdashersHall, do pay him the said Thirty Pounds accordingly.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

The House hath considered your Message concerning Mr. Charles Howard; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Mr. Holles brings Answer from the Lords, That they have taken the Message concerning the Propositions into serious Consideration; and will send Answer thereunto by Messengers of their own.

An Ordinance for Payment of the Sum of Four thousand Pounds, and Interest, every Six Months, out of the Excise, for the Use of the Scotts Officers, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, committed unto Mr. John Goodwyn, and the Gentlemen of that Committee, to whom the Scotts Officers Business was formerly referred; to be reported with all convenient Speed.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page;

The Lords have commanded us to return you this Ordinance concerning Hull: It moved from you: And the Lords have agreed unto it, with these Alterations: Wherein they desire your Concurrence:- To deliver this Letter: It comes from Guernesey: It hath been read in their House; and they think fit to communicate it to you; and desire, That the Ammunition, there mentioned, may be sent away with all Conveniency. They have also commanded us to put you in mind of Two Letters received from the King; one a Month since; the other Eight Days: Which were directed to be communicated to the Scottish Commissioners: They rest with you: And the Lords desire, That you will give Order they may be sent to the Scottish Commissioners; or that you will return the Originals to their Lordships, that they may communicate them unto them. They have likewise commanded us to put you in mind of the Judge of the Admiralty for Cornewall and Devon: Which they desire you will take into speedy Consideration.

The Alterations and Amendments to the Ordinance concerning Hull were read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.

Ordered, That the Establishment for the Garison of Hull be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Sir Thomas Widdrington is appointed to carry it to the Lords.

The Letter from Guernesey was read; and was of 16 Junii 1646, from Colonel Robert Russell.

Resolved, &c. That a Conference be desired with the Lords, To-morrow Morning, concerning Jersey.

Sir Henry Mildmay, Mr. Cornelius Holland, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, Mr. Nathanael Fiennes, Mr. Laurence Whittaker, are appointed to prepare Reasons, to be offered to the Lords, at a Conference, for the Settling of Sir Hardres Waller in the Command of the Forces that are to go to the Island of Jersey; and for his speedy Dispatch thither; and also why this House cannot agree with the Lords, in Appointing of Colonel Aldrich to be Commander in Chief of the said Forces.

The humble Petition of Captain Henry Fabian, Captain Thomas Howell, Lieutenant Nic. Ling, Lieutenant Walter Randall, Lieutenant Benjamin Temple, Francis Fabian, and Ensign Thomas Howell, Officers in the Island of Guernesey, under Command of Colonel Robert Russell, Lieutenant-Governor of the said Island, was this Day read.

Resolved, &c. That the Petitioners shall have the FifthPart of their Arrears paid unto them, upon Account: And that it be referred to the Committee of Accompts, to state and certify their Accompts, what is justly due to each of them respectively.

Resolved, &c. That, as to the rest of the Particulars of this Message, this House will return Answer by Messengers of their own.

Ordered, That the House do proceed to hear the Reports from the Committee at Goldsmiths-Hall, the first Business, To-morrow Morning; and, next after that, the Report concerning the Discharge for the Commissioners of the Excise; after that, the King's Letters, and the Papers and Letters from the North; and also the Letter this Day delivered in by Mr. Speaker, from the Scotts Commissioners at Worcester-House.

A Message from the Lords, by Doctor Heath and Mr. Page;

The Lords have commanded us to acquaint you, That they have passed all the Propositions, except That of disbanding the King's Forces in England and Scotland, and That concerning the Act of Oblivion; and they desire, That the House of Commons will give Order to their Members of the Committee of both Kingdoms, as they have done theirs, That they may be speedily communicated to the Scotts Commissioners, and their Concurrence desired, that the Propositions may be speedily sent to the King. They have also sent you a Vote, which they have passed, concerning the Propositions of Ireland.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords, That the Members of this House that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, may join with the Members of the House of Peers that are of that Committee, for the speedy Communicating of the Propositions to the Scotts Commissioners: And that their Concurrence be desired, That the Propositions may be speedily sent to the King.

The Vote concerning the Propositions of Ireland was read; and was in hæc verba; viz. "Resolved, That this House doth declare, That the Passing of the Propositions concerning Ireland doth not alter, nor infringe, any the Engagements made to the Kingdom of Scotland;" and nothing done upon it.

Ordered, That Mr. Nathanael Fiennes, and the other Gentlemen, to whom the Declaration for saving and asserting the Privileges of the Parliament of England was referred, do immediately withdraw; and report the same to the House.

Resolved, &c. That it be referred to a Committee, to consider of the whole Business of the Manner of Sending of the Propositions to the King; and how, and in what manner, to desire his Majesty's Answer unto the same.

Mr. Samuel Browne, Mr. Holles, Mr. Pierpoint, Mr. Lisle, Mr. Nath. Fiennes, Mr. Sollicitor, Sir John Evelyn, Mr. Greene, Mr. Marten, Sir Wm. Lewes, Sir Hen. Mildmay, Colonel Appsley, Mr. Selden, Mr. Maynard, Sir Richard Onslowe, Mr. Whitelock, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, Mr. Stapley, Sir Wm. Brereton, Mr. Ellys, Sir Philip Stapilton, Mr. Prideaux, Sir Hen. Vane junior, Mr. Recorder, Sir William Waller, Lieutenant-General Cromwell, Mr. Walter Long, Sir Wm. Armyn, Mr. Lislebone Long, Sir Wm. Allenson, Mr. Grimston;

This Committee, or any Five of them, are to consider of the Manner of Sending of the Propositions to the King; and how and in what manner his Majesty's Answer shall be desired thereunto: And are to meet upon it this Afternoon at Two of the Clock, in the Queen's Court.

The First Messengers were called in; and the House returned this Answer; That, as to the Additions and Alterations to the Ordinance concerning the Garison of Hull, they do agree: And, as to the rest, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

The Second Messengers were called in: And the House returned this Answer; That, as to the Desire, That the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, may communicate the Propositions to the Scotts Commissioners, they do agree.

Mr. Nathanael Fiennes reported the Declaration for asserting the Liberties of the Parliament of England: Which was read.