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Die Lunæ, 17 Novembris, 1645.
Prayers.
THE humble Petition of Sir William Balfour Knight, late General of the Horse, with a Paper annexed, concerning his Losses and Arrears; desiring, That they, with his Fidelity and Services to the Parliament, may be taken into Consideration, for the necessary Support of him and his Family, and for his Encouragement, and further Recompence; were this Day read.
Resolved, &c. That Two thousand Pounds be assigned and paid unto Sir William Balfour, upon Account; to be allowed and deducted out of his Arrears: And that this Two thousand Pounds be paid unto him out of the Proceed upon such Delinquents Compositions, as he shall present to Mr. Speaker, to be sent to Goldsmiths-Hall.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of Accompts, to take and audite Sir William Balfour's Accompts.
Resolved, &c. That One hundred Pounds per Week shall be allowed, and weekly paid, to the Treasurers for maimed Soldiers, out of Haberdashers-Hall: And that an Ordinance be brought in to this Purpose.
Ordered, That the Committee for maimed Soldiers do bring in an Ordinance for assigning and allowing Twelve hundred Pounds out of such Delinquents as they shall present; to be employed for discharging the Engagements for maimed Soldiers.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth concurr with the Lords, in appointing Colonel Bulstrode, Governor of Aylesbury, to be Colonel of the Regiment there, formerly Colonel Fleetwood's; and do likewise concurr with the Lords, That the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, do grant him Commissions accordingly.
Ordered, That the several Committees in the several Counties do examine the Foundations of the several Hospitals in the respective Counties, and the Abuses in Placing of Persons in the said Hospitals (if any be); and also what Places are void in any of the said Hospitals: The said respective Committees in the said several Counties are likewise to call the Treasurers for maimed Soldiers, Clerks of the Peace, Treasurers for Hospitals, and every other Person and Persons in the said several Counties, who have any Monies in their Hands, which ought to be employed for the Maintenance of maimed Soldiers, or of the said Hospitals, or of the Gaols there, to an Account: And are, with all convenient Speed, from time to time, to represent the said Abuses and Defects; and what Monies are remaining in any of the said Persons Hands, to be employed for the Purposes aforesaid, unto the Committee of this House, appointed to take Consideration of Hospitals. And
It is further Ordered, That the ancient Rates and Levies, usually paid for Gaols and maimed Soldiers in the said several Counties, be, from time to time, assessed and collected as formerly, and be duly paid, and employed for the said Uses.
Ordered, That the Committees of the several Counties do take care to provide for the Maintenance of such Soldiers, as have been maimed in the Service of the Parliament, and are of the said several Counties.
Ordered, That the Committee for this House, formerly appointed for Hospitals, be revived: And that they do sit on Thursday next, in the Afternoon, in the ExchequerChamber, at Two of the Clock; and so, from time to time, every Thursday, and at other times, as often as they shall think fit: And they are to require an Account, from time to time, of the respective Committees in the several Counties, to whom the Examination of the Foundations of Hospitals in the said Counties, and of Abuses in Placing of Persons in any of them, and the Calling of the Treasurers, Clerks of the Peace, and other Persons, who have any Monies in their Hands for the Use of any Hospitals, Gaols, or maimed Soldiers, were referred, of their respective Proceedings: And are likewise to give Directions for Remedying of the said Defects and Abuses; and for disposing of such Monies for the Uses for which the said Monies have been collected, or are appointed. And
It is further Ordered, That Sir William Lewes, Colonel Long, Mr. Dove, Mr. Jesson, Colonel Mountague, and Mr. Love, are added to the said Committee.
Mr. Tate carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, an Ordinance for Six thousand Pounds, out of the Excise, for the Forces before Chester: An Ordinance for One thousand Pounds, out of the Excise, for Croyland: An Ordinance for Two thousand Five hundred Pounds, out of the Excise, for the Forces under Colonel-General Pointz: An Ordinance for Three thousand One hundred Ninety-one Pounds Five Shillings and Eight-pence, out of the Excise, for the Pay of the Waggoners: The Ordinances for Two hundred Pounds, out of Haberdashers-Hall, given to Colonel Hugh Bethell; and for Ten Pounds to Wigfall the Messenger, that brought the Letters from Colonel-General Points, out of Haberdashers-Hall.
He carried likewise to the Lords several Letters taken at the late Battle near Sherborne, and brought up by Sir William Allenson; and was to desire the Lords to join with this House in nominating a Committee to go to the Parliament of Scotland.
Whereas there are many poor, sick, and wounded Soldiers, who have ventured their Lives in the publick Service of the Kingdom, who are in great Want and Necessity of Linen and Woolen Cloaths, for relieving them in their Distress; which Want causeth their Misery to become more uncomfortable, and keeps back their Cure of their Wounds and Sickness: It is therefore this Day Ordered, by the Commons, assembled in Parliament, That William Greenhill, John Pocock, John Randall, and Richard Hutchinson, Treasurers for maimed Soldiers, shall appoint Three or Four such meet Persons, as they shall think fit, to go from Parish to Parish within the Line of Communication, Bills of Mortality, and the Associated Counties; who may earnestly stir up and desire all well-affected People to contribute their old Cloaths, either Linen or Woolen, towards the Relief of the afore-mentioned poor Soldiers: And such Linen and Woolen, as shall be so contributed, shall be delivered in to the Charge of the Churchwardens of the said Parishes where they are contributed, to be by them conveyed to the afore-mentioned Treasurers of London for maimed Soldiers, at Tallowchandlers-Hall, near Dowgate, on every Wednesday, betwixt the Hours of Two and Five a Clock in the Afternoon: And the said Churchwardens are hereby required forthwith to deliver in to the aforesaid Treasurers for maimed Soldiers, and at the aforesaid Place, all such Linen Surplices as are now remaining or belonging to their several Parishes; to be employed for the Uses aforesaid.
A Letter from the Lord Inchiquin, from Cork, of Octobris 18 ; a Letter from Captain Crowther, Vice-Admiral of Ireland, of Octobris 20 ; a Letter from the Commissioners of the Navy, from the Navy-Office, of Novembris 13 ; representing the very sad Condition of Youghall, and other Parts of the Province of Munster; were all this Day read.
Ordered, That Captain Crowther's Letter, of Octobris 20 , as to the Prize-Goods and Ships, be referred to the Committee of the Navy, to do therein as they shall see Cause, and as shall be most advantageous for the Relief of the Kingdom of Ireland: And that they confer with the Committee for Irish Affairs, concerning the Disposal of the said Goods and Prizes.
Ordered, That Mr. Green, Mr. Jephson, and Mr. Wheeler, do confer with the Commissioners of Excise, and employ their best Endeavours with them, for the Furnishing of Two thousand Pounds for the present Service of Munster, upon the Credit of the Ordinance of Five thousand Pounds, formerly charged upon the Excise, in Course, for the Service of Ireland.
The Question was propounded, Whether an Assessment shall be made for the assessing and raising, by a Tax through the Kingdom, in a proportionable Rate to every Housholder's Estate, the Value of one Meal every Month, for the Relief of Mounster in Ireland, to continue for Six Months:
And the Question being put, Whether this Question should be now put;
The House was divided.
The Noes went forth.
Mr. Holles, and | Tellers for the Yea: | 61. |
Sir John Clotworthy, | With the Yea, | |
Sir Walter Erle, and | Tellers for the Noe: | 60. |
Mr. Crew, | With the Noe, |
So the Question passed with the Affirmative.
The Question being put, Whether an Assessment shall be made, for the assessing and raising, by a Tax throughout the Kingdom, in a proportionable Rate to every Housholder's Estate, the Value of one Meal every Month, to continue for Six Months, for the Relief of Mounster in Ireland;
The House was divided.
The Yeas went forth.
Mr. Holles, | Tellers for the Yea: | 66. |
Sir John Clotworthy, | With the Yea, | |
Sir Walter Erle, | Tellers for the Noe: | 69. |
Mr. Crew, | With the Noe, |
So that the Question passed with the Negative.
Mr. Tate brings Answer, That the Lords do concurr with this House in nominating a Committee, to consider, What is sit to be done upon the Letters carried up by him; and appointed Seven Lords to meet, on Wednesday next, with a proportionable Number of this House: They agree in nominating a Committee to go to the Parliament of Scotland; have nominated One Lord: They agree to all the Ordinances carried up by him.
Resolved, &c. That it be re-committed to the Committee of Lords and Commons for the Affairs of Ireland, to consider of some Way of Supply for the Forces of Munster in Ireland; and for the Carrying on of the War there: And that they do represent the whole State of the Affairs in Ireland, both in relation to the Monies collected and assigned for the Forces in Ireland; and carrying on the War there, and of the Provisions made for that Kingdom, and of the State of the Forces there: And that this Report be made on Saturday next, in the Afternoon: And that the House do sit then on Purpose.
Ordered, That the Business concerning Bristoll be taken into Consideration this Afternoon, the first Business.
Post Meridiem.
REsolved, &c. That the Interest already due, and that shall grow due, for a Thousand Pounds lent to the Parliament by Sir John Dreydon, Mr. Crew, and Sir Christo. Hatton, be paid out of the sequestred Estate of Sir Christopher Hatton: And that the Principal be paid out of such Delinquents Estates of Northamptonshire, as shall compound there for their Delinquencies: And that Mr. Ashherst do bring in an Ordinance to this Purpose.
Resolved, &c. That Sir Christo. Yelverton, Sir John Burgoyne, Mr. Christo. Hales, Mr. Richard Lucy, Mr. Richard Nudigate, Mr. Paul Wentworth, Colonel John Bridges, shall be and are hereby added to the Committees for the County of Warwicke.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
Ordered, &c. That Mr. Jesson and Mr. Barker do consider of fit Persons to be Committees for the City and County of the City of Coventrie; and present their Names to the House.
Ordered, &c. That the principal Debt of One thousand Pounds, and all Interest due, or to grow due, for the same, for which Sir Philip Stapleton, Sir Arthur Haslerigg, Sir Robert Harley, and Sir Robert Cooke, are engaged, on the Behalf of, and by the Command of the House, shall be paid and satisfied, out of any Delinquents Estates in the Counties of Leicester, Hereford, or Yorkeshire: And that Sir Philip Stapleton do bring in an Ordinance accordingly.
Ordered, &c. That the principal Debt of Five hundred Pounds, and all Interest due, or to grow due, for the same, for which Sir Wm. Morley and Mr. Winwood are engaged, on the Behalf of, and by the Command of the House, shall be paid and satisfied out of any Delinquents Estates in the County of Sussex: And that Mr. Winwood do bring in an Ordinance accordingly.
Ordered, &c. That the principal Debt of Four thousand Pounds, for which Mr. Pury is engaged, on the Behalf of this House, shall be paid and satisfied out of a Debt due to Sir Humphry Tracye, a Delinquent; for which there is a Mortgage upon the Estate of Henry Poole Esquire: And that Mr. Pury do bring in an Ordinance accordingly.
Ordered, &c. That this House doth concurr with the Northern Committee, That Sir Wm. Lister, for and towards his present Maintenance, shall have the Sum of Fifteen hundred Pounds paid unto him, out of the Composition to be made with Sir Humphry Tracy, for the Discharge of his Delinquency and Sequestration: And that Mr. Ashurst do bring in an Ordinance accordingly.
Ordered, &c. That, for the Disengagement of Mr. Holles, Mr. Bond, and Mr. John Browne, of such Debts as they are bound for on the Behalf, and by the Command of this House, an Ordinance be brought in for the Payment of the said Debts, and for the Interest for the same, out of any Delinquents Estates in the Counties of Dorsett and Somersett: And that Mr. Holles do bring in an Ordinance accordingly.
Resolved, &c. That Colonel Henry Ireton, Major Gervas Lomax, John James Alderman of Nottingham, and Mr. John Hooper, shall be and are hereby added to the respective Committees for the Town and County of the Town of Nottingham, and for the County of Nottingham.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
A Message from the Lords, by Doctor Heath and Mr. Page;
The Lords have sent us with these Particulars; Two Letters, with the Votes concerning them; one to the King of Denmarke; the other to the Marquis of Brandenburgh: They came from this House: And they do agree to the Votes, and to the Letters . . . . them; with these Amendments: To which they desire your Concurrence:-An Ordinance concerning Heraldry: To which they desire your Concurrence:-An Ordinance for Regulation of the College of Westminster: It came from this House; and they do agree to it, with these Amendments:-A Petition from the Earl of Denbigh's Officers; with their Desire thereupon: The Lords think it reasonable; and desire you would take it into Consideration.
The Amendments to the Letters to the King of Denmarke, and the Marquis of Brandenburgh, were read; and, upon the Question, assented unto: And
It is Ordered, upon the Question, That it be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to dispatch away Mr. Jenks, the Agent for this Affair, with these Letters, with all convenient Speed.
Ordered, &c. That the Ordinance concerning Heraldry be taken into Consideration on Saturday Morning next.
The Amendments to the Ordinance for the Regulation of the College of Westminster were read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.
The humble Petition of the Officers of the Earl of Denbigh was read: And
It is Ordered, That it be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for Petitions, to consider, What is due to the Petitioners; and how some Monies, or other Means, may be raised for the Relief and Support of the Petitioners.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House hath considered their Lordships Message: And, as to the Amendments to the Letters to the King of Denmarke, and Marquis of Brandenburgh; and to the Ordinance for Regulation of the College of Westminster; they do agree: And, as to the rest, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.
Upon Sir Robert Harley's Report from the Committee of Privileges;
Resolved, &c. That the Election of Mr. Tanfield Vachell, to serve as a Member of this House for the Borough of Readinge in the County of Berkes, is void; because the Poll was not granted, being duly demanded: And that a Warrant may issue from the House for a new Election.
Ordered, &c. That Major-General Browne, a Member of this House, shall be examined before the Committee for Privileges where Sir Robert Harley hath the Chair, concerning the Election of the Knights of the Shire for the County of Bucks.
Ordered, &c. That Colonel Botelour, now a Prisoner under Bail, upon his Parole, not to act any thing against the Parliament of England, and to appear at all times, upon Summons, shall have Liberty to go, or take Employment in any Place, where he shall think sit, for his Support and Maintenance.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth declare and order, That all Elections of any Knight, Citizen, or Burgess, to serve in Parliament, be made, without Interruption or Molestation by any Commander, Governor, Officer, or Soldier, that hath not in the County, City, or Borough, respectively, Right of electing: And that this Order be sent to Reddinge at the next Election. And
It is further Ordered, That this Order be printed.
The humble Petition of Part of the Corporation of the Citizens Inhabitants of the City of Chichester was this Day read: And
It is Ordered, That the Mayor do forthwith proceed to the Election of Two Burgesses, to serve in this House for the City of Chechester, according to the Warrant directed unto him for the Sheriff in that Behalf.
It is Ordained, and be it Ordained, by the Lords and Commons, assembled in Parliament, That the Committees of Gloucester, Hereford, Monmouth, Glamorgan, Brecknock, and Radnour, nominated in several Ordinances of Parliament, or any Four or more of them, shall have, and hereby hath, full Power and Authority to rate and tax, upon the County of Glamorgan, the Sum of One hundred and Sixty-two Pounds per Week; on the County of Brecon, the Sum of One hundred and Twenty Pounds per Week; and on the County of Radnour, the Sum of Eighty-six Pounds per Week; to be paid weekly, for the Space of Nine Months next ensuing the Date hereof; unless the said Houses of Parliament shall make any other Order concerning the same; to be rated, taxed, levied, and collected, in such Sort, Manner, and Form, as is prescribed in the former Ordinances of weekly Assessments; and to be employed for and towards the Maintenance of the Forces of the said several Counties. And,
Be it Ordained, That Bussy Mansell Esquire, Sir Tho. Lewes, Edward Prichard, Humphry Mathewes, Edward Carne, Thomas Lewes of Lanishen, Even Seyse, Hum. Windham, Esquires, Mr. Rich. Johns, Mr. John Price of Geelyheare, Mr. Philip Jones, Mr. Rowland Dawkins, Sir Wm. Lewes Baronet, Howell Gwynn of Lanbrane, Edward Rumsey, Charles Walbeese, Edward Games de Buckland, Tho. Lewes of Llangorse, Esquires, Wm. Morgan of Pencrige, John Parry, Wm. Baker, Esquires, Mr. Rotherick Gwynne, Mr. Sylvanus Tayler, Mr. John Williams, Mr. Thomas Lewes, be hereby added to the Committees of the aforesaid Counties.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth nominate and approve of Bushy Mansell Esquire to be Commander in Chief of the Forces of the County of Glamorgan, subordinate to Sir Thomas Fairefaxe: And that the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, do grant him a Commission accordingly.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth nominate and approve of Edward Prichard Esquire to be Governor of the Town and Castle of Cardiffe: And that the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, do grant him a Commission accordingly.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth nominate and approve of Philip Jones Esquire to be Governor of the Garison of Swansey in the County of Glamorgan: And that the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, do grant him a Commission accordingly.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
Ordered, &c. That it be referred to the Committee at Goldsmiths-Hall, to receive any Informations concerning Sir Thomas Hanmer; and, upon the Report of his Composition, to state the Matter of Fact to the House.
Resolved, &c. That Sir Theobald Gorge, late a Member of this House, and now a Prisoner, be bailed: And that Mr. Speaker do take good Bail of him: And that he do attend the Committee at Goldsmiths-Hall, to make his Composition, according to the Propositions.
Resolved, &c. That the Lady Catharine Hutchinson, Widow of Sir Thomas Hutchinson, late a Member of this House, who hath lost all, and been ruined by the King's Forces, for her very great and constant Affections to the Parliament, shall have Four Pounds per Week allowed unto her, for her present Support, out of the King's Revenue: And the Committee of the Revenue are desired to make Payment thereof accordingly.
Ordered, &c. That Mr. Twisse, a Fellow of New-College in Oxon, who hath been deprived of the Benefit and Support he had by his Fellowship, for his good Affections to the Parliament, be allowed Maintenance to the full Value of his Fellowship, out of the Revenue belonging to the said College in the County of Essex: And that the Committee of Essex do make Allowance thereof, and Payment, accordingly.
Ordered, &c. That, on Monday next, in the Afternoon, no other Business whatsoever be admitted, but such as shall come in from the Committee for Petitions: And that That whole Afternoon be employed in the Hearing and Considering of such Matters as shall be reported from that Committee: And that Mr. Speaker put the House in mind hereof; to the end no other Business may intervene.