House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 21 January 1645

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Martis, Januarii 21, 1644.

Prayers.

Sir Jo. Potts reports, That he, and other Members of this House, accompanied some Lords to the States Ambassadors: And the Earl of Warwick read the Answer of both Houses, to be delivered unto their last Propositions: That they received them with a great deal of Respect; and did desire their Service might be presented to both Houses: And that they would acquaint their Superiors with this Answer; and endeavour, to their utmost, to keep a good Correspondence between the States-General of the United Provinces and the Parliament of England.

Ordered, That Doctor Eden do prepare a Brief of the Complaints of the English, and their Desire of Redress from the States-General, for Damages done unto them from Subjects of the States-General: And that the Lords be desired to join, that the Committee, appointed lately to deliver the Answer of both Houses to the States Ambassadors, may likewise deliver unto them the Complaints of the English; and desire their Answer.

Ordered, That Mr. Browne do, To-morrow, make the Report concerning a blasphemous Book published, complained of to this House.

This Question was propounded, Whether Sir Thomas Fairefaxe shall command in Chief all the Forces, of Horse, and Foot, to be raised by the new Establishment, according to the new Model:

And then the Question being put, Whether this Question shall be now put;

The House was divided.

The Noes went forth.

Mr. Holles, Tellers for the Noe: 69.
Sir Philip Stapilton, With the Noe,
Sir Hen. Vane junior, Tellers for the Yea: 101.
Lieutenant-General Cromwell, With the Yea,

So that the Question passed with the Affirmative.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Thomas Fairefaxe shall command in Chief all the Forces, of Horse and Foot, to be raised by the new Establishment, according to the new Model.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Skippon shall be SerjeantMajor-General of these Forces.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Thomas Fairefaxe shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Foot.

Resolved, &c. That Serjeant-Major-General Skippon shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Foot.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Crawford shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Foot.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Barclay shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Foot.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Holborne shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Foot.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Aldriche shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Foot.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Ingoldsby shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Foot.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Fortescue shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Foot.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Mountagu shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Foot.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Ayloff shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Foot.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Pykering shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Foot.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Ralph Welden shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Foot.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Thomas Fairefaxe shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Horse.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Middleton shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Horse.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Sydney shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Horse.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Greves shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Horse.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Sheffield shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Horse.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Vermuyden shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Horse.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Fleetewood shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Horse.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Whally shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Horse.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Michael Livesay shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Horse.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Riche shall be Colonel of a Regiment of Horse.

Resolved, &c. That a Regiment of Horse, consisting of Six hundred, more than what was brought in by the new Model, shall be raised, and be within this Establishment, and be under the Command of Colonel Rosseter.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for regulating the Armies, where Mr. Tate has the Chair, to consider of, and present to the House, some Mark of Honour to be set upon my Lord General the Earl of Essex; and some other Recompence to be conferred upon him; to remain as a Testimony to Posterity, and an Acknowledgment from the Parliament of England, of the great and faithful Services he has done to the Parliament and Kingdom.

It is likewise referred to this Committee, to consider and present to the House, What Power the Commander in Chief of the Forces to be raised by this new Establishment shall have upon the Issuing out of the Monies, that shall be raised for the Entertainment of those Forces; and how the Horse already raised, and that shall be supernumerary above this Establishment, may be employed to the best Advantage of the State, and paid elsewhere than out of this Establishment; and to bring in the Names of the Lieutenant-Colonels of Foot, and Major-Generals of Horse, for this Establishment; and the principal Officers for the Train of Artillery; and to consider of some fit Recompence to be conferred upon Sir Wm. Balfour, in Acknowledgment of the faithful Services done by him to the Publick.

It is further referred to this Committee, to consider how the Officers, laid aside by the Reducement made of the Armies by this Establishment, may either have Employment into the West, or elsewhere; or may be put into a sure Way of receiving their Arrears; and have some Recompence in Acknowledgment of their faithful Service.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to expedite and bring in the State of the Train of Artillery, as to the Proportions and Quantities.

Ordered, That Mr. Corbett do prepare a Letter, to be sent to Major-General Skippon; expressing the Desire of this House, that he would, with all Diligence, repair to his Charge.

Ordered, That Sir Thomas Widdrington do, from this House, desire Colonel Lambert to go down forthwith to the Army in the North, to his Charge.

Ordered, That Mr. Nicoll do bring in an Ordinance for Continuance of the Ordinance of Excise for a longer Time; with Blanks for the Time.

Upon divers grievous Complaints made to the House of many great Outrages and Insolencies committed by divers Walloons, and other Strangers, of Colonel Behir's Regiment;

It is Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to take some speedy Course to secure the Arms and Horse of those Walloons and Strangers; and to discharge them of the Service.

A Letter was read, from the Earl of Manchester to Mr. Speaker, dated 21 Januarii, 1644; desiring to have a Copy of the Charge, that he may give Satisfaction therein: But nothing was done thereupon.

Resolved, &c. That this House be forthwith resolved into a Grand Committee, according to the former Order, to take into Consideration the Ordinance for the new Model of the Army.

Mr. Lisle was called to the Chair.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Mr. Lisle reports, That the Grand Committee has adjourned itself till To-morrow, Eight of Clock.

Ordered, That the Grand Committee do meet To-morrow at Eight of Clock, to take into Consideration the Ordinance for the new Model of the Army, according to the former Order.

Ordered, That the Business of Newcastle be taken into Consideration To-morrow.