House of Lords Journal Volume 63: 11 August 1831

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 63, 1830-1831. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, [n.d.].

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Die Jovis, 11° Augusti 1831.

DOMINI tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:

Dux Cumberland.
Dux Sussex.
Ds. Brougham
& Vaux,
Cancellarius.
Epus. Roffen.
Epus. Landaven.
Epus. Cloynen.
Epus. Corcagen, &c.
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Ds. Melbourne, Unus Primariorum Secretariorum.
Ds. De Ros.
Ds. Teynham.
Ds. Stafford.
Ds. Monson.
Ds. Holland.
Ds. Sherborne.
Ds. Kenyon.
Ds. Auckland.
Ds. Calthorpe.
Ds. De Dunstanville & Bassett.
Ds. Northwick.
Ds. Carbery.
Ds. Dunalley.
Ds. Redesdale.
Ds. Arden.
Ds. Mont Eagle.
Ds. Glenlyon.
Ds. Forester.
Ds. Penshurst.
Ds. Seaford.
Ds. Fife.
Ds. Tenterden.
Ds. Plunket.
Ds. Stuart de Rothesay.
Ds. Skelmersdale.
Ds. Fingall.
Ds. Rossie.		 March. Lansdowne, Præses.
Ds. Durham, C. P. S.
Dux Richmond.
Dux Beaufort.
Dux Wellington.
March. Westmeath.
March. Cleveland.
Comes Westmorland.
Comes Essex.
Comes Carlisle.
Comes Shaftesbury.
Comes Albemarle.
Comes Jersey.
Comes Elgin.
Comes Oxford & Mortimer.
Comes Ferrers.
Comes Brooke & Warwick.
Comes Radnor.
Comes Clarendon.
Comes Carnarvon.
Comes Wicklow.
Comes Caledon.
Comes Rosslyn.
Comes Limerick.
Comes Orford.
Comes Grey.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Verulam.
Comes Falmouth.
Comes Vane.
Vicecom. Gordon.
Vicecom. Goderich.

PRAYERS.

The Earl of Shaftesbury sat Speaker by virtue of a former Commission.

Dublin, &c. Railway Bill read 2 a, & committed:

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for making and maintaining a Railroad from Westland Row, in the City of Dublin, to the Head of the Western Pier of the Royal Harbour of Kingstown, in the County of Dublin, with Branches to communicate therewith."

Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the Consideration of the Lords following:

L. Bp. Rochester.
L. Bp. Landaff.
L. Bp. Cloyne.
L. Bp. Cork & Ross.
L. Melbourne.
L. De Ros.
L. Teynham.
L. Stafford.
L. Monson.
L. Holland.
L. Sherborne.
L. Kenyon.
L. Auckland.
L. Auckland.
L. Catlhorpe.
L. De Dunstanville & Bassett.
L. Northwick.
L. Carbery.
L. Dunalley.
L. Redesdale.
L. Arden.
L. Mont Eagle.
L. Glenlyon.
L. Forester.
L. Penshurst.
L. Seaford.
L. Fife.
L. Tenterden.
L. Plunket.
L. Stuart de Rothesay.
L. Skelmersdale.
L. Fingall.
L. Rossie.		 D. Cumberland.
D. Sussex.
L. President.
L. Privy Seal.
D. Richmond.
D. Beaufort.
D. Wellington.
M. Westmeath.
M. Cleveland.
E. Westmorland.
E. Essex.
E. Carlisle.
E. Shaftesbury.
E. Albemarle.
E. Jersey.
E. Elgin.
E. Oxford & Mortimer.
E. Ferrers.
E. Brooke & Warwick.
E. Randnor.
E. Clarendon.
E. Carnarvon.
E. Wicklow.
E. Caledon.
E. Rosslyn.
E. Limerick.
E. Orford.
E. Grey.
E. Mulgrave.
E. Verulam.
E. Falmouth.
E. Vane.
V. Gordon.
V. Goderich.

Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet Tomorrow, at Ten o'Clock in the Forenoon, in the Prince's Lodgings, near the House of Peers; and to adjourn as they please.

Petitions from Kilmacanouge against it, referred to the Com ee:

Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of Kilmacanouge, in the County of Dublin, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; taking notice of the last-mentioned Bill, and praying their Lordships "not to pass the same into a Law, and to hear Petitioners by their Agents and Counsel against such Parts of the same as may affect Petitioners:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Committee to whom the said Bill stands committed, and that the Petitioners be at liberty to be heard by their Agents and Counsel against the same, as desired; and that Counsel be heard for the Bill at the same Time, if they think fit.

All Lords added to the Com ee:

Ordered, That all the Lords who have been or shall be present this Session, and are not named of the Committee to whom the last-mentioned Bill stands committed, be added thereto.

Com ee to appoint a Chairman:

Ordered, That the Committee to whom the said Bill stands committed do appoint their own Chairman.

T. Flanagan's Petition against it, referred to the Com ee.

Upon reading the Petition of Thomas Flanagan of the City of Dublin, Gentleman; taking notice of the lastmentioned Bill, and praying their Lordships "to hear him against the same, if not, to hear Petitioner, his Agent and Counsel, against such Parts of the same as may affect him:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Committee to whom the said Bill stands committed, and that the Petitioner be at liberty to be heard by himself, his Agent and Counsel, against the same, as desired.

Liverpool Church Bill:

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for endowing a Church called Saint Bridgett, in the Parish of Liverpool, in the County Palatine of Lancaster."

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill, with the Amendments, shall pass?"

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Message to H.C. with Amendments to it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Cross and Mr. Trower;

To return the said Bill, and acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the same, with several Amendments, to which their Lordships desire their Concurrence.

Exeter Roads Bill, Accts respecting, referred to the Com ee.

Ordered; That the Account of the Monies received for the Tolls of the Exeter Turnpike Trust since the Year 1803, distinguishing the Amount received on the Roads East or diverging Fastward of the City of Exeter from the Amount received on the Roads North and West of the said City, and also the Amount of the Expenditure on each such Lines of Road; and also the Account of the Amount of Debt from the Exeter Turnpike Trust at the Time the several Districts of Road were consolidated, specifying the Balance due to and from each of them at the Time; and also an Account of the Debt due from the Trust at the Time the last General Annual Statement was made up, specifying how the Amount of the Increase of Debt has been expended, delivered to the House Yesterday, be referred to the Committee to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act to amend an Act of His late Majesty King George the Fourth, for repairing the several Roads leading to and from the City of Exeter, and for making certain new Lines of Road to communicate with the same, and for keeping in Repair Exe Bridge and Countess Wear Bridge; and to make and maintain other Roads communicating with the said Roads," stands committed.

Polloc & Govan Railway Bill Specially reported.

The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords Committees appointed to consider of the Bill, intituled, "An Act for amending an Act passed in the Eleventh Year of His late Majesty King George the Fourth, for making and maintaining a Railway from the Lands of Polloc and Govan to the River Clyde; and to alter and extend the Powers of the Company of Proprietors of the said Railway;" "That the Committee had met, and considered the said Bill, and, in the first place, proceeded to enquire how far the Standing Orders of the House relative to Railway Bills had been complied with; and found that all the said Orders had been complied with, and, in particular, with respect to the Standing Order No. 213, that a Draft of the Bill was submitted to a Meeting of the Proprietors of the said Railway at a Meeting held specially for that Purpose on the 31st of January last, which Meeting, it was proved to the Committee, was called by Advertizement inserted for Four consecutive Weeks, vizt. on the 29th December 1830, and 5th, 12th and 19th of January 1831, in the Newspaper, intitd, The Glasgow Chronicle, and on the 1st, 15th, 18th and 22d of January 1831, in the Newspaper, intitd, The Paisley Advertizer, the said Newspapers being published for the Counties of Lanark and Renfrew, to which Counties alone the Bill relates; and that it appears that such Meeting was held on a Period not earlier than Seven Days after the last Insertion of the said Advertizement; and that at the said Meeting the Draft of the Bill so submitted to the Proprietors then present was unanimously approved of; and that the Committee had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to their Lordships, without any Amendment."

Which Report being read by the Clerk.

Ordered, That the said Report do lie on the Table.

Dame M.L. Gordon v. Crombie et al. Petition of a Respondent for Time for his Case, referred to Appeal Com ee.

Upon reading the Petition of Alexander Crombie Esquire, One of the Respondents in a Cross Appeal depending in this House, to which Dame Mary Lucy Elizabeth Gordon is Appellant; praying, "That their Lordships will be pleased to grant him Four Weeks from the 12th Day of August to lodge the Prints of his Case:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Committee appointed to consider of the Causes in which Prints of the Appellants and Respondents Cases, now depending in this House in Matters of Appeals and Writs of Error, have not been delivered, pursuant to the Standing Orders of this House.

Warrington & Newton Railway Bill.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. John Wood and others;

With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to enable the Company of Proprietors of the Warrington and Newton Railway to extend the said Railway from the Termination thereof at Bank Quay, in the Parish of Warrington, in the County Palatine of Lancaster, to Norton, in the County Palatine of Chester;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

The said Bill was read the First Time.

General Steam Navigation Co's Bill.

The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for granting certain Powers to a Company called "The General Steam Navigation Company," was committed; That they had considered the said Bill, and examined the Allegations thereof, which were found to be true; and that the Committee had gone through the Bill, and made several Amendments thereto."

Which Amendments were read by the Clerk as follow; (vizt.)

Pr. 4. L. 28. Leave out ("Four") and insert ("Three")

"L. 30. Leave out ("Twenty") and insert ("Fifteen")

"Pr. 5. L. 24. Leave out ("Four") and insert ("Three")

"L.30. Leave out ("Twenty") and insert ("Fifteen")

"Pr. 7. L. 17. Leave out ("Twenty") and insert ("Fifteen")

"Pr. 19. L. 34. Leave out ("Twelve") and insert ("Ten")

"Pr. 20. L. 4. Leave out ("Twelve") and insert ("Ten")

"L. 17. Leave out from ("That") to ("Vacancy") in Line 22, and insert ("no"); and in Line 22, after ("Vacancies") insert ("which"); and also in Line 22, after ("shall") insert ("hereafter")

"L. 26. Leave out ("no such Vacancy or Vacancies") and insert ("except by going out of Office by Rotation")

"L. 31. Leave out ("Twelve") and insert ("Ten")

"L. 34. Leave out ("Twelve") and insert ("Ten")

And the said Amendments, being read a Second Time, were agreed to by the House.

Sunderland & Durham Road Bill.

The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for the more effectually repairing and otherwise improving the Road from Sunderland near the Sea, in the County of Durham, to the City of Durham," was committed; That they had considered the said Bill, and examined the Allegations thereof, which were found to be true; and that the Committee had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."

The House was adjourned during Pleasure.

The House was resumed by The Lord Chancellor.

Reform of Parliament, Petition of Trades Union of Perth in favor of, withdrawn.

It was moved, "That the Petition of the Mechanics and others composing the Trades Union of the City of Perth and its Vicinity, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships, "That, as soon as the Reform Bill comes before them, they will lose no Time in passing it into a Law," presented to the House on Tuesday last, may be withdrawn."

The same was agreed to, and Ordered accordingly.

Ecclesiastical Lands Exchange Bill.

The Order of the Day being read for the Second Reading of the Bill, intituled, "An Act to authorize Exchanges of Lands and other Possessions of certain Ecclesiastical Corporations;" and for the Lords to be summoned;

The said Bill was accordingly read a Second Time.

Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill on Tuesday next; and that the Lords be summoned.

Poor Relief Bill.

Ordered, That the Bill, intituled, "An Act to amend the Laws for the Relief of the Poor," be read a Second Time on Monday the 22d of this instant August.

Education, (Ireland,) Petitions from Kells & Navan for regulating Grants for.

Upon reading the Petition of the Clergymen and Inhabitants of the Parish of Kells, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:

And also, Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the Parish of Navan, in the County of Meath, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; severally praying their Lordships "to withhold the Annual Grant from the Kildare Place Society, and to direct the Allocation of such Funds as will effect the benevolent Purpose of educating the Poor of Ireland, without any Violation of their conscientious Opinions:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petitions do lie on the Table.

Governors of Counties & Magistrates, (Ireland,) Returns respecting, Ordered forthwith.

Ordered, That there be laid before this House forthwith, "A Return, specifying the Number and Names of the Governors of the different Counties in Ireland, adding to the Names of the Governors those who exercise the Office of Custos Rotulorum," Ordered to be laid before the House on the 4th Day of July last.

Ordered, That there be laid before this House forthwith, "A Return of the Names of Magistrates in the Commission of the Peace for each County in Ireland, specifying the Number of Times that each has attended the Petit Sessions within the Twelvemonth previous to the 11th of June last past," Ordered to be laid before the House on the 5th Day of July last.

Exchequer Bills (£13,616,400) Bill:

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for raising the Sum of Thirteen millions six hundred and sixteen thousand four hundred Pounds by Exchequer Bills, for the Service of the Year One thousand eight hundred and thirty-one."

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Message to H.C. that the Lords have agreed to it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by the former Messengers;

To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the said Bill, without any Amendment.

Coals, &c. Duties Repeal Bill:

The Order of the Day being read for the Third Reading of the Bill, intituled, "An Act to discontinue or alter the Duties of Customs upon Coals, Slates, Cotton Wool, Barilla and Wax;"

It was moved, "That the said Bill be now read the Third Time."

Which being objected to;

After short Debate,

The Question was put thereupon?

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Then the said Bill was read the Third Time.

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill, with the Amendment, shall pass?"

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Message to H.C. with an Amendment to it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by the former Messengers;

To return the said Bill, and acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the same, with One Amendment, to which their Lordships desire their Concurrence.

Overseers of the Poor Bill.

The Order of the Day being read for the Second Reading of the Bill, intituled, "An Act to improve and amend the Nomination of Overseers of the Poor, to define their Powers and Authority, and to make certain Provisions for the better Regulation of Parish Relief;"

Ordered, That the said Bill be read a Second Time on Tuesday the 23d of this instant August.

Earl Stanhope's Estate Bill:

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to effect a Partition of certain Freehold, Copyhold or Customary and Leasehold Estates in the County of Lincoln, late the Property of The Right Honorable Sir Joseph Banks Baronet, deceased."

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Message to H.C. with it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by the former Messengers;

To carry down the said Bill, and desire their Concurrence thereto.

Sub-letting Act (Ireland) Amendment Bill presented.

The Lord Melbourne presented to the House a Bill, intituled, "An Act to repeal an Act passed in the Seventh Year of His late Majesty King George the Fourth, intituled, "An Act to amend the Law of Ireland respecting the Assignment and Sub-letting of Lands and Tenements," and to substitute other Provisions in lieu thereof."

The said Bill was read the First Time.

Ordered, That the said Bill be printed.

Adjourn.

Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Veneris, duodecimum diem instantis Augusti, horâ undecimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.

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