House of Lords Journal Volume 9: 26 March 1647

DIE Veneris, 26 die Martii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Ash.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Ordinance to repair Margate Pier. &c.

Upon reading the Report of the Admiralty and Cinque (fn. 1) Ports, and a Certificate: (Here enter them.)

It is Ordered, To be sent down to the House of Commons, with this Sense, "That this House thinks fit that the Barons of the Cinque Ports do present to the Parliament an Ordinance for the repairing and preserving of the Jetty Works and Pier at Margett's, according to the Purport of this Report and Certificate; and that it be speedily done, because of the Danger which will else ensue to the Town of Margett."

Ward's Ordinance to be Minister of Upton.

An Ordinance for making Mr. Warde Minister of Upton, in the County of Worcester, was read the Third Time, and Agreed to; and Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons for their Concurrence therein.

Young and Jennings.

Upon reading the Petition of Patrick Younge, concerning Thomas Jennyns:

It is Ordered, That the Petition shall be shewed unto the said Jennyns, who is to return his Answer thereunto (fn. 2) within a Week after Sight.

Accompt of the Treasurers of the Army.

This Day was read a Certificate from the Committee of Accompts, certifying the State of the Accompt of the Treasurers appointed by Act of Parliament 16° Car'l. and Agreed to. (Here enter it.)

Hodgson's Order for the Balance.

The Order for paying Seventy-two Pounds, and Eleven Pence, to Mr. Edward Hodgson, was read, and Agreed to. (Here enter it.)

Ordinance to reduce the Interest of Money.

Ordered, That a new Ordinance be brought in, for reducing Interest-Money, from 8° to 6° per Cent.; and that it look forward, and a competent Time be given for Men to call in their Monies.

Report of the Conference on the Ordinance to regulate Oxford University.

The Speaker reported the late Conference with the House of Commons, concerning the Ordinance for regulating the University of Oxon, which this House sent down to them, with some Alterations; to which they agree to some, to others they do not agree to:

"They agree to Addition of Visitors.

"They agree that the Word ["Committee"] be made ["Commissioners"] throughout the Ordinance.

"Likewise they agree to the Addition of Lords and Commons to be Commissioners, with Addition of a further Number of the Members of the House of Commons, wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence.

"To all the other Alterations, they do not agree."

Ordered, That this House adheres to the former Names; but do not agree to the Addition of Names now brought up from the House of Commons.

To the Alteration, that the Visitors shall restore all such Persons as have been unjustly put out of any Place, &c. this House adhered to it.

To the Alteration for voiding of Elections and Scholarships made since Oxford was a Garrison, this House made this Addition to it, ["unless they be judged fit to be confirmed in their Places by the Visitors formerly nominated"].

To the Alteration for the Persons to be chosen shall be approved of by the Assembly of Divines, &c.

Committee to consider of i

Ordered, That this Clause is referred to these Lords following, who are (fn. 3) to consider of it, and report it to this House on Tuesday next, with such Alterations as they shall think fit, according to the Sense of this House:

Any Three, to meet when they please.

Message from the H. C. about sequestesing Delinquents Estates in the Northern Counties;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Robinson, &c.

1. To desire their Lordships Concurrence concerning the putting into Execution the Sequestration of Delinquents Estates in the Five Northern Counties, according to former Ordinances of Parliament.

Agreed to, with Alterations.

about recalling the Scots Forces from Ulster.

2. To put their Lordships in Mind of the Vote formerly brought up from the House of Commons, concerning the recalling of the Scotts Forces in Ulster.

Ordered, That this Business shall be taken into Consideration on Tuesday Morning next.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this (fn. 3) House will take this Message into Consideration, and send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Message to the H. C. that the Lords agree to sequestering Delinquents Estates in the Northern Counties; and to remind them of the following Particulars.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Doctor Aylett:

To let them know, that this House agrees to the Ordinance concerning sequestering of Delinquents Estates in the Northern Association, with these Alterations, wherein their Concurrence is desired.

2. To put them in Mind of the Ordinance formerly sent down from this House, for putting down all Country Committees.

3. To put them in Mind of the Lord Morley's Petition.

4. To put them in Mind of the Ordinance concerning the prohibiting the Killing of Flesh.

Report from the Admiralty, Committee about Margate Peer, and the Works belonging to it.

"Die Sabbathi, 27 Febr. 1646.

"By the Committee of Lords and Commons for the Admiralty and Cinque Ports.

"On Consideration of a Petition presented to the Committee, by John Smith, Expenditor for Margett, in the Isle of Thanett, in the County of Kent, in Behalf of himself and the rest of the Inhabitants and Owners of Houses and Lands lying against the Sea at Margett aforesaid, the same setting forth the great Danger the said Town is in of being carried to Sea, and the great Losses already befallen the Estates of many of the Inhabitants, by the carrying of many of their Houses already to Sea, through the Decay of certain Jetty-works heretofore made for Defence thereof; and praying that Timber may be appointed for repairing of the same, as also that Money may be raised for the perfecting thereof out of the Arrears of a Scot of Two Shillings per Pound, heretofore charged upon the Houses and Lands there, and of another Scot of Thirty-six Pounds per Annum laid upon the Pier of Margett by the Commissioners of Sewers for the East of Kent, about Twenty-five Years ago, the Payment thereof having been for some Years discontinued; and that, for the future maintaining thereof, the said Scots may be confirmed; or that, in Lieu of a Moiety of the said Two Shillings per Pound, a reasonable Poundage may be set upon certain Commodities going into and out of the said Island, a List of which Commodities, and of a Rate proposed to be set upon them respectively, was now presented; and upon reading of a Certificate from some Gentlemen of the County of Kent (to whom the State thereof was referred by this Committee to be viewed and certified), they thereby setting forth that, the said Jetty-works being by them surveyed, and Workmen consulted, they found that Fifty-five Rods of Work is in Decay, which, requiring Double Work, will take up Six Hundred and Five Tons of Oaken Timber; that the Workmanship will amount to as much or more Charge than the Timber; and that there will need a continual Charge to keep it for the future: And for that this Committee is informed, by some Members of both Houses, that they have viewed the same, and find the Defects and Danger of the said Town to be very great; and forasmuch as the same is within the Jurisdiction of the Cinque Ports: This Committee doth therefore conceive it their Duty to represent it to both Houses of Parliament; and doth recommend it to them, That the present Defects may be repaired, and sufficient Timber for that End allowed; and that the Town may in Time to come be secured by a Scot upon the said Houses and Lands, or by a Poundage upon Commodities exported and imported from and to the said Island, or otherwise as they shall in their Wisdom think fit; as also that Consideration may be had of the Petitioner John Smith's Disbursements for upholding of the said Works (which, by his Petition, is alledged to amount unto Four Hundred and Twenty Pounds), in such a Way as they shall think meet, he having offered (as by the said Certificate is mentioned), upon Allowance of a Moiety of the said Scot, and of a Poundage upon the said Commodities, to perform the said Work (being first furnished with Timber as aforesaid) and to engage an Estate of One Thousand Pounds Value to keep the same for ever: And it is lastly Ordered, That a Copy of the said Certificate, and of the Schedule of Rates upon the said Commodities, be annexed to this Report.

"W. Jessop, Secr."

Survey of it.

"Whereas the Jetty-works of Mar'att, in the Isle of Thannett, according to Order of the Right Honourable Committee of the Admiralty and Cinque Ports, being surveyed by us, Sir James Oxenden and Sir Henry Heyman Knights, and others; and we calling Three sufficient Carpenters to measure the Works, it was found to be in Decay as followeth:

"1. That there was Fifty-five Rods of Work measured, and found in Decay, each of which Rods was conceived would take up Five Tons and Half of Timber for Single Works, and for Double Works so much more; and the same requiring all Double Work, it will take up in the Whole Six Hundred and Five Tons of Oaken Timber.

"2. That the Workmanship, for Carpenters, Sawyers, and other Workmen, will amount to as much or more Charges than the Timber to compleat the said Works.

"3. That it will require a constant and continual Charge, in repairing, upholding, and keeping, the same Works.

"4. That if the now Expenditor John Smith may be Yearly allowed Twelve Pence in the Pound upon all Houses and Lands, which for Twenty-five Years past paid Two Shillings in the Pound, as appears by Scot; and also if he may receive according to the Rates of and upon the particular Commodities set down and expressed in a Schedule hereunto annexed, and as this Honourable House shall think fit, and as is used in other Maritime Towns; he is willing to undertake to perform the said Work, being furnished with Timber sufficient as aforesaid; and will engage One Thousand Pounds, Lands and Houses in the said Island, for Performance and Keeping of the said Work for ever; he being the fittest Man for the same, as being already intrusted for by the said Town, and the said Town being now in most imminent Danger to be lost if not speedily helped as aforesaid.

"Ja. Oxinden."

"Having about Eight Months past, with the Lieutenant of Dover Castle and Mr. Henry Crispe, surveyed the dangerous Condition of Margatt; I did find that there is Fifty-five Rods, or thereabouts, which of Necessity must be maintained against the Rage of the Sea; and did also find, by the Judgement of able Workmen then present, that the Premises will require the Timber here above-mentioned.

"H. Heyman."

Levies of Money, for maintaining and repairing it.

"Monies to levy, to maintain the Jetty-works at Margate, in the Isle of Thannett, in Kent, against the Sea, for ever, which is shipped and unshipped, for the Securing of the Town.

"That the Pier Wardens at Margate may pass over the Accompts to the Mayor of Sandwich and Dover; and, as they shall think fit, that Half the Overplus may be paid to the Expenditor, towards the Maintaining of the Sea-works at Margate for ever, the Pier having for Twenty-five Years and more paid Thirty-six Pounds per Annum, as by the Scot appears.

"That all such Houses and Lands that have paid for Twenty-five Years past Two Shillings in the Pound, as appears by the Scot, that they may pay One Shilling in the Pound for ever; these particular Impositions hereafter named being allowed, with a Penalty upon the Refusers.

Certificate of the Accompts of the Treasurers of the Army, &c.

"Die Veneris, 26 Martii, 1647.

"To the Honourable the Commons assembled in Parliament.

"All which we humbly certify under our Hands, for the determining of the said Accompt, and for the Discharge of the said Accomptants for so much Money received and issued forth as aforesaid.

"Dated 6 Martii, 1645.

Order for 72 l. os. 11d. the Balance, Mr. Hodgion their Clerk.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the Sum of Threescore and Twelve Pounds, and Eleven Pence, remaining in the Hands of the Treasurers appointed by Act of Parliament for the Relief of His Majesty's Army and the Northern Parts, be paid unto, and bestowed upon, Edward Hodgson Clerk to the said Treasurers, towards Recompence for his great Pains in this Service."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 10^a cras.