House of Lords Journal Volume 7: 23 June 1645

DIE Lunæ, 23 die Junii.

PRAYERS, by Dr. Chambers.

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Answer from the H. C.

Sir Edw. Leech and Mr. Page return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they agree to exempt the Spanish Ambassador from paying Excise; as concerning the bestowing of the Prisoners, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

The Earl of Manchester reported from the Committee of both Kingdoms Two Papers; which were read, as followeth:

1. Letter from General Leven.

Letter from the Earl of Leven, that he is advanced with the Scots Army to Mansfield, in his Way Southward.

"My Lords and Gentlemen,

"I receved your Letter directed to the Comittee and myselfe, representing your Desires for the speedy Advance of this Armie, and expressing your Care to procure from the Citty of London a Monthe's Pay; and alsoe their Suite to the Comittee of the House of Comons, that equall Care may be had of our Army as of their owne, which we cannot but with Thankfullnes acknowledge to be no small Matter of an Encouragement, and doe take it as an Assurance of the same Care for the rest of the Monthes; and we doe hereby likewise make known to your Lordships, that, in Obedience to your Desires, we are thus farr advanced, being most willing to apply ourselves with all Chearfullnes to whatsoever Undertaking may conduce most to the improving of that late Victory wherewith you were alsoe pleased to acquainte us, in that Way which shall be propounded for the Happines of this Kingdome and the strengthning of the firme Union of both; then which we have nothing more in our Care, and shall imbrace all Opportunities to evidence our constant Affection to this common Cause, for the regayning of a blessed Peace, and Settlement of Religion: But, because your Lordships are shortly to receive more particular Accompt of our Waies and Intentions, by Mr. Kennedy and Mr. Gillespie, I shall forbeare to add any Thinge for present, but remaine

Mansfield, 20 June, 1645.

"Your Lordships
Most humble Servant,
Leven.

"For the Right Honorable the Lords and others of the Comittee of both Kingdomes."

"Die Solis, 22 Junii, 1645.

"At the Committee of both Kingdoms, at Derby House.

"Ordered, That a Letter from the Earl of Leven, of the 20th Instant, together with the Paper that shall be given in by the Scottsch Commissioners, be reported to both Houses:

Paper from the Committee of both Kingdoms, for an Answer to be given to some Scots Papers.

"To report to both Houses, that an Answer may be given to the Papers formerly given in, as also to that given in on Saturday, for that the Lord Chancellor is to go into Scotland on Tuesday Morning, that he may make known the same Answer and Resolution to the Parliament of Scotland, and the Committee with the Army; and, amongst other Papers, an Answer is desired to One concerning the Earl of Roxburg's Money, Plate, and Jewels, and also to One concerning the going of the Earl of Lothian into Ireland, being Lieutenant General of the Scotts Army there."

Ordered, That this Letter shall be sent to the House [ (fn. 1) of Commons;] and to desire them to (fn. 2) take the Particulars mentioned in the other Paper into Consideration, that so some Answer may be given by the Lord Chancellor to the Kingdom of Scotland therein.

The Earl of Warwicke reported from the Committee for the Admiralty several Papers; which were read, as follows:

"Die Veneris, 20 Junii, 1645.

"At the Committee of Lords and Commons for the Admiralty and Cinque Ports.

Young to be Gunner of The Sampson.

"In Recommendation from the Commissioners of the Navy, of Henry Young (now Gunner of The Convertine), as a fit Person to be Gunner of The Sampson; Ordered, That the said Henry Young be presented to both Houses, for their approving him to be Gunner of The Sampson, that, upon Approbation so given, he may by the Warrant of this Committee be entered into that Place."

Ordered, That this House approves of Henry Young, to be Gunner of The Sampson.

"Die Sabbati, 21 Junii, 1645.

"At the Committee of the Admiralty.

Captain Swanley to command The John.

"On very good Recommendations given of the Sufficiency of Captain Wm. Swanley for Command of the Ship The John, and in respect of his faithful Employments formerly in the Parliament's Service at Sea; Ordered, That the said Captain Swanley be presented to the Parliament, for their approving of him to be placed in that Command, that, upon their Approbation declared, this Committee may settle him in that Charge by their Commission."

Ordered, That this House approves of Captain Wm. Swanley to have the Command of The John, as is reported from the Committee; and the Concurrence of the House of Commons desired herein.

Turpin's Daughters Petition for an Allowance out of Serjeant Glanvile's Estate.

Upon reading the Petition of the Daughters of Captain Rob't Turpin; shewing, "That whereas their Father was condemned by Serjeant Glanvill and others, and executed, he being in Service of the Parliament; desiring that they may have some Means for their Maintenance allowed them, out of the Estate of the said Serjeant Glanvile."

It is Ordered, To be recommended to the House of Commons.

Message to the H. C. about the foregoing Matters.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page:

To communicate unto them the Letter of the Earl of Leven; and to acquaint them with the Desire of the Scotch Commissioners, mentioned in their Paper; and desire that some Answer may be given to the Particulars, that so an Answer may be sent by the Lord Chancellor.

2. To desire their Concurrence, for Captain Wm. Swanley and Henry Young to be put into the Places, as is desired; and to recommend the Petition of the Daughters of Captain Rob't Turpin.

Message from thence, to sit P. M.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Pye Knight, &c.

To let their Lordships know, that they intend to sit this Afternoon, at Two a Clock, for they have some Business to impart to their Lordships; and to desire their Lordships would please to sit likewise.

Agreed to.

with Orders;

2. To desire their Lordships Concurrence in Two Orders:

1. That the Two Thousand Four Hundred Pounds in Mr. Frost's Hands shall be paid to Mr. Knight, Treasurer of Berks, Oxon, and Bucks.

(Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

2. For securing the Re-payment of Monies advanced by Mr. Ash, &c. for Lyme, &c.

(Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

and to expedite Two Ordinances.

3. To desire Expedition in the Ordinance concerning punishing of Soldiers that run away from the Army, and the Ordinance concerning Accompts, formerly sent up.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House will sit at Two post Meridiem; and agree to the Two Orders now brought up: To the rest, their Lordships will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Answer from General Skippon, to the Letter of Thanks and Enquiry from the Speaker of this House.

The Speaker acquainted this House, "That, according to their Lordships Command, he writ a Letter to Major General Skippon, to give him Thanks for his great Care and Valour shewed in the late Victory, and to know how (fn. 3) he did of his Wound; and he hath returned a Letter."

Which was read, as follows:

"To the Right Honourable the Lord Grey of Wark, Speaker to the Right Honourable the House of Peers assembled at Westm.

"My Lord,

"I humbly thank your Lordship for taking any Notice of my unworthy Service. Let the Lord of Hosts have only all the Glory. I am in very great Pain; humbly submitting to the good Pleasure of my God, knowing that Life or Death shall be to me Advantage. My Lord, I am,

Brixworth, this 21 June, 1645.

"Your Lordship's
Most humble and faithful Servant,
Ph. Skippon."

Letter of Thanks to be sent to Sir T. Fairfax.

Ordered, That the Speaker do write a Letter to Sir Thomas Fairefax, from this House, giving him Thanks for his great Service in the late Victory at Naseby Field.

Paper from the Scots Commissioners, for imm ate Supplies of Money for their Army; for an Allowance to raise and accoutre 1000 Horse to reinforce them; and for Commissioners to reside with that Army.

"According to the Desire of the Comittee of both Kingdomes, the Scottish Army, after a long and tedious March of neere One Hundred and Forty Miles, is now advanced to Nottingham, notwithstanding the many Difficulties and Obstructions they have mett with, through Want of Carriages and necessary Provisions for their Intertainment; they are alsoe most ready and willing to advance further Southward, and to undertake any Servise that shall be found most conduceable for the Publique Good, and improving the late Victory God hath bin pleased to bestow on the Parliament's Forces; and withall we are desired to represent to the Honorable Houses of Parliament their great Wants and Necessities of that Army, Four Monthes of the Ordinance for their Entertainment being very neere past, and they have received no Benefitt thereof; while the Houses, in their Wisedome, have taken Care that other Armies be constantly paid every Fortnight, whereof the Officers and Souldiers of the Scotch Army doe take speciall Notice, and, if not timously prevented, may beget in them great Discontents.

"That Army did come into this Kingdome out of their earnest Desires for setling Religion, and establishing a happy Peace; and, as they have done formerly, soe are they constantly resolved for the future, to decline no Hazard or Dainger whatsoever, for attayning those Ends: But, if they shall be desired to march from the one Ende of the Kingdome to the other, and have no other Way of Intertainment but by taking Quarter from the Country, it will certainly render them very odious, and, in Ende, make the People to looke upon them as Enemies, whom they expected to come as Bretheren for their Assistance, especially when they see their owne Army every where discharge their Quarters (whom they would with farr lesse Offence permitt to take Free Quarter then an Army of Strangers); the Consequence whereof will be, that, upon their Advance Southward, they shall make all the Country People behind them their Enemies, through which they are to make their Retreat.

"For preventing of all which Inconveniencies, and the better Satisfaction of the Army, it is earnestly desired, that the Monthes Pay promised by the Citty may be speedily sent away for their Supply; and that the Houses would be pleased to declare unto that Army, that they will take equall Care for the constant Payment thereof as of their owne, and lay downe a solide Course for Performance thereof accordingly.

"And because the Strength of the Enemies Forces doth most consist in Horse, wherein the Scottish Army is weakest; it is earnestly desired, that a competent Summe may be provided, for raysing of One Thousand Horse to strengthen their Cavalrie, and Order given for furnishing the like Nomber of Armes, Sadles, and other Necessaries, all to be allowed as Part of the Arreares due to the Army, which will be of speciall Advantage for the Publique Servise, and we are confident the Honorable Houses will judge to be most reasonable, since nothing is craved for their Mantenance over and above the Monthly Pay for Intertainment of the Army.

"And we doe againe renew our earnest Desire unto the Houses, that Comissioners may be appoynted to reside constantly with that Army, for the managing of Affayres to the best Advantage of the Publique, according to the Treaty betweene the Kingdomes; and since Sir Henry Vane and Mr. Hatcher have ben appointed to goe thether, we desire that they may be speedily dispatched, with such others as the Honorable Houses in their Wisedome shall thinke fitt.

(fn. 4) June 22, 1645.

"By Comand of the Comissioners for the Parliament of Scotland."

Bletsoe Park exempted from Assessments.

Ordered, That the Earl of Bolingbrooke's Park, at Bletsoe, in the County of Bedford, shall be exempted from all Taxes and Assessments.

Byfleett and Houghton Parks exempted.

Ordered, (fn. 5) That the Park of the Lord Bruce, at Byflett, in the County of Surrey, and the Park of Houghton, in the County of Bedford, shall be exempted from Taxes and Assessments.

Ordinance concerning Newnham Farm.

The Ordinance concerning Newnham Farme shall be committed to these Lords following:

To meet on Thursday Morning next; and Broadnax to attend, and be heard what he can say concerning the Business.

Order for 2400l. to Mr. Knight, Treasurer of Berks, Oxon, &c.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That the Two Thousand Four Hundred Pounds, now in the Hands of Mr. Frost, be paid over to Mr. Knight, Treasurer of (fn. 6) the Three Counties of Oxon, Bucks, and Berks, to be disposed of by Order of the Committee of those Three Counties; Two Thousand Pounds of it to the Service of the Garrison of Abingdon and of Gant House, and the Four Hundred Pounds Remainder for the Service of the Garrison of Henly, whose Acquittance shall be a sufficient Discharge to the said Mr. Frost."

Ordinance for securing the Re-payment of Money to Mr. Ash, &c. for Pool, &c.

"Whereas Edward Ash, a Member of the House of Commons, hath consented to advance Eight Hundred Pounds; Mercellus Whittingham, Two Hundred Pounds; Andrewe Kendrick, Five Hundred Pounds; Thomas Lambe, of London, Five Hundred Pounds; and James Smith, a Thousand Pounds; for and towards the Maintenance and Relief of the Four Garrisons, Poole, Wareham, Weymouth, and Lyme, in the County of Dorsett: It is Ordained, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the respective Persons abovenamed, upon Payment of the said several Sums unto Mr. Michall Herring, for the Use aforesaid, shall be re-paid their several Sums lent and advanced, with the Interest thereof, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent. in Course or Intervals out of the Receipts of Excise and new Impost, upon the Ordinance of Parliament, dated the Eleventh of September, One Thousand Six Hundred and Fortythree; which several Sums so lent and advanced for the Use aforesaid shall be proportioned to each Garrison, as the Committee of the West, or any Eight of them, shall think fit: And the said Lords and Commons do further Ordain, That this present Ordinance shall be a sufficient Warrant unto the Chief Commissioners of Excise for the Time being, to pay the said several Sums, together with Interest after the Rate aforesaid, unto the several Persons above named, or any or either of them, in such Course as the same shall fall due, next after such Ordinance or Ordinances as are already assigned upon the said Receipts of the Excise; and their several Receipt or Receipts respectively shall be a sufficient Discharge, for Principal and Interest as aforesaid, unto them the said Commissioners of Excise, and every of them."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 2^a post meridiem.

Post meridiem.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Chambers.

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Staple, &c. versus Knight, in Error.

The Petition of Robert Staple and others, for a Writ of Error, touching a Judgement gained in the King's Bench by one Joseph K't; which was granted, according to the Desire of the said Petitioner.

Griffith's Petition.

The Petition of John Griffith Esquire, imprisoned, desiring to be released.

Resolved, To be considered of To-morrow, or at some other Time as the House shall direct.

Adjourn.

Adjourn; To-morrow, 9^a.