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Die Martis, 9 Februarii 1830.
DOMINI tam Spirituales quam Temporales præesentes fuerunt:
PRAYERS.
Hume et al. v. Duncan.
The Answer of William Duncan, Stocking Manufacturer in Carluke, to the Petition and Appeal of James Hume of Cardside, Esquire, Acting Trustee and Executor of the deceased James Watson, Writer to the Signet; George Tod, Writer in Edinburgh, Trustee for the Creditors of the deceased Robert Hope, and Hugh Watson, Writer to the Signet, Assignee of the said George Tod, was this Day brought in.
E. of Glengall takes the Oaths.
This Day Richard Earl of Glengall took the Oaths, and also took and subscribed the Oath of Abjuration, pursuant to the Statutes.
Acts of Sederunt of the Court of Session delivered.
The Earl of Shaftesbury laid before the House, pursuant to the Directions of an Act of Parliament,
"Acts of Sederunt of the Court of Session in Scotland, 1829-1830."
And the Title thereof being read by the Clerk;
Ordered, That the said Papers do lie on the Table.
6th Report of Comrs of Woods, &c. to be printed.
Ordered, That the Sixth Report of the Commissioners of His Majesty's Woods, Forests and Land Revenues, delivered to the House on the 22d Day of June last, be printed.
6th Report of Comrs of Holyhead, &c. Roads to be printed.
Ordered, That the Sixth Report of the Commissioners for the Improvement of the Holyhead and Liverpool Roads, Holyhead and Howth Harbours, and for the Menai and Conway Bridges, delivered to the House on the 15th Day of June last, be printed.
Law respecting Real Property, Address for Report on.
Ordered, That an humble Address be presented to His Majesty, to request that His Majesty will be graciously pleased to order that there be laid before this House, "A Copy of the First Report made to His Majesty by the Commissioners appointed to inquire into the Law of England respecting Real Property."
Ordered, That the said Address be presented to His Majesty by the Lords with White Staves.
Galbraiths v. Galbraith.
The House being moved, "That a Day may be appointed for hearing the Cause wherein James Galbraith and John Galbraith are Appellants, and Richard Galbraith Esquire, is Respondent:"
It is Ordered, That this House will hear the said Cause, by Counsel at the Bar, on the first vacant Day for Causes after those already appointed.
Harris v. Kemble et al.
The House being moved, "That a Day may be appointed for hearing the Cause wherein Henry Harris is Appellant, and Charles Kemble, and others, are Respondents:"
It is Ordered, That this House will hear the said Cause, by Counsel at the Bar, on the first vacant Day for Causes after those already appointed.
Allardice & Boswell v. Robertson.
The House being moved, "That a Day may be appointed for hearing the Cause wherein Robert Barclay Allardice and John Boswell Esquires are Appellants, and John Robertson is Respondent:"
It is Ordered, That this House will hear the said Cause, by Counsel at the Bar, on the first vacant Day for Causes after those already appointed.
Logan et al. v. Wienholts, Petition of a Respondent to lodge his Case, referred to Appeal Com ee.
Upon reading the Petition of John Birkett Wienholt, One of the Respondents in a Cause depending in this House, to which Sarah Logan, and others, are Appellants; praying their Lordships, "That he might be at liberty now to lay the Print of his Case upon the Table of this House:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Committee appointed to consider of the Causes in which Prints of the Appellants and Respondents Cases, now depending in this House in Matters of Appeals and Writs of Error, have not been delivered, pursuant to the Standing Orders of this House.
Roll of Peers delivered.
The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House, "That the Clerk Assistant had prepared and laid on the Table the Roll of Peers, pursuant to the Order of the House."
Ordered, That the said Roll do lie on the Table.
Ordered, That the said Roll be printed.
The Attorney General v. Winstanley, in Error, Petition of Solicitor General for an early Day, referred to Appeal Com ee.
Upon reading the Petition of His Majesty's Solicitor General, on behalf of His Majesty's Attorney General, Plaintiff in a Writ of Error depending in this House, wherein Thomas Winstanley is Defendant; praying their Lordships "to appoint an early Day for hearing Counsel to argue the Errors assigned upon the said Writ of Error:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Committee appointed to consider of the Causes in which Prints of the Appellants and Respondents Cases, now depending in this House in Matters of Appeals and Writs of Error, have not been delivered, pursuant to the Standing Orders of this House.
Logan et al. v. Wienholts, Petition of a Respondent to lodge her Case, referred to Appeal Com ee.
Upon reading the Petition of Mary Wienholt, One of the Respondents in a Cause depending in this House, to which Sarah Logan, and others, are Appellants; praying their Lordships, "That she may be at liberty now to lay the Prints of her Case upon the Table of this House:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Committee appointed to consider of the Causes in which Prints of the Appellants and Respondents Cases, now depending in this House in Matters of Appeals and Writs of Error, have not been delivered, pursuant to the Standing Orders of this House.
Poor, Corn & Tithe Laws, G. Gunning's Petition for Revision of.
Upon reading the Petition of George Gunning of Frendsbury, Kent, a Lieutenant on the Half Pay of His Majesty's First Regiment of Dragoon Guards; praying, "That their Lordships will be pleased to amend the Poor Laws, by passing a Law to oblige all Parishes to keep their Accounts in one fixed Form, shewing particularly the Cause of the Want of Relief by the Out-door Poor; the Accounts also to state distinctly, under separate Heads, the whole Expenditure of Money raised for the Use of the Poor; all Accounts to be passed in open Vestry every Month, and every Three Months an Abstract to be furnished to the Quarter Sessions of each County, for the Information of Parliament, stating the Number of Houses, Inhabitants, and Acres of Land in each Parish; and further praying their Lordships to amend the Corn Laws by a fixed Duty of not less than Two Shillings a Bushel on all Grain, to be paid immediately it is imported, by which Means much Fraud would be prevented, the high Duty on Oats in Proportion to Wheat would give proper Protection to the Irish Farmer, and promote the general Interests of the Kingdom; and further praying their Lordships to amend the Tithe Laws by a fixed Per-centage on all Real Rents, the present Mode of Payment being as unjust as it is unwise, and on a due Examination by their Lordships, it will be found that it checks Improvement, paralyzes Industry, promotes Pauperism, and tends to destroy the virtuous Spirit and meritorious Exertion of the Labouring Poor:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Distress of the Country, Petition from Cumberland respecting.
Upon reading the Petition of the Nobility, Clergy, Gentry and Freeholders of Cumberland; praying their Lordships, "to take into their Consideration the general Distress of the Country, and by a Revisal of the Measures adopted since 1819, coupled with the strictest Economy in the Public Expenditure, and the Repeal or Reduction of those Taxes, such as the Duties on Malt and Beer, which press most grievously on the Poor, grant that Relief to a suffering Community which their Distress imperatively demands:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Agricultural Distress, Petition from Wetheringsett cum Brockford respecting.
Upon reading the Petition of the Farmers and Yeomen of the Parish of Wetheringsett cum Brockford, in the County of Suffolk, whose Names are thereunto subscribed, praying, "for the early Consideration of their Lordships on the lamentable and appalling State of the Agricultural Interests of this Country; the Petitioners relying with Confidence on the Wisdom of their Lordships Counsels and the Justice of the Petitioners Cause:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
East India Co's Trade, &c. Papers respecting, delivered.
The Lord Ellenborough (by His Majesty's Command) presented to the House,
"Papers relating to the Finances of The East India Company, Abroad and at Home, and the Trade of India and China;" together with a List thereof.
Which List was read by the Clerk, as follows; (viz t.)
"No. 1.-General Statement of the Revenues and Charges of India, (exclusive of the Commercial Charges,) drawn from the Accounts presented to Parliament, also shewing the Interest paid upon the Debts, with the Result of each Year, from the Year 1809-10 to the Year 1826-27 inclusive; with the Estimate of the same for the Year 1827-28.
No. 1.(A.)-Statement of the Revenues and Charges of the Presidency of Bengal, (exclusive of the Commercial Charges,) drawn from the Accounts presented to Parliament; shewing also the Interest paid upon the Debts, and the Result of each Year, from the Year 1809-10 to the Year 1826-27 inclusive; with the Estimate of the same for the Year 1827-28.
No. 1.(B.)-Statement of the Revenues and Charges of the Presidency of Madras, (exclusive of the Commercial Charges,) drawn from the Accounts presented to Parliament, shewing also the Interest paid upon the Debts, and the Result of each Year, from the Year 1809-10 to the Year 1826-27 inclusive; with the Estimate of the same for the Year 1827-28.
No. 1.(C.)-Statement of the Revenues and Charges of the Presidency of Bombay, (exclusive of the Commercial Charges,) drawn from the Accounts presented to Parliament, shewing also the Interest paid upon the Debts, and the Result of each Year, from the Year 1809-10 to the Year 1826-27 inclusive; with the Estimate of the same for the Year 1827-28.
No. 1.(D.)-Statement of the Revenues and Charges of the Presisidency and Settlements of Prince of Wales Island, Bencoolen and St. Helena, (exclusive of the Commercial Charges,) drawn from the Accounts presented to Parliament, shewing also the Interest paid upon the Debts, and the Result of each Year, from the Year 1809-10 to the Year 1826-27 inclusive; with the Estimate of the same for the Year 1827-28.
"No.2.-An Account of the Total Annual Amount of the Revenues and Charges of the several Presidencies in India, from the Year. 1809-10 to the Year 1826-27, with the Estimate of the same for the Year 1827-28, as laid before Parliament; distinguishing, as to the Revenues, the Revenues realised in the original Possessions of The East India Company, from the Subsidies from Native Princes, or Collections from Ceded and Conquered Countries; and as to the Charges, the Military Charges, and the Charges for Buildings and Fortifications, from Civil, Revenue, Judicial and Marine Charges; shewing also the Net Charge of Bencoolen, Prince of Wales Island, &c.; likewise the Interest paid on the Debts, and the Amount of Territorial Charges paid in England.
No. 2. (A.)-Statement of the Revenues realised in the original Possessions of The East India Company, at Bengal, Madras and Bombay, from the Year 1809-10 to the Year 1826-27 inclusive; with the Estimate of the same for the Year 1827-28.
No. 2.(B.)-Account shewing the Gross and Net Receipts from Sudsidies under Treaties with the Native Princes of India, or from the Revenues of the Ceded and Conquered Countries, from the Year 1809-10 to the Year 1826-27 inclusive; with the Estimate of the same for the Year 1827-28.
No. 2.(C.)-Statement of the Civil, Revenue, Judicial, Marine and other Charges, (exclusive of the Civil Charges of the Ceded and Conquered Countries,) defrayed at Bengal, Madras, and Bombay, from the Year 1809-10 to the Year 1826-27 inclusive; with the Estimate of the same for the Year 1827-28.
No. 2.(D.)-Explanatory Notes relative to the Distinctions of Territory observed in the Account, No. 2, and its Appendices.
No. 2. x.-An Account of the Revenues and Charges of India in each of the Three Years ending 30th April 1827, 30th April 1828 and 30th April 1829 (the last Year on Estimate;) shewing the Annual Surplus of Revenue or Charge, after the Payment of Territorial Charges in England.
No. 3.-An Account of the Amount of the Bond and other Debts owing by The East India Company, at their several Presidencies in India, on the 30th April in each Year, from 1809 to 1814, both inclusive.
No. 4.-An Account of the Amount of the Bond and other Territorial Debts owing by The East India Company, at their several Presidencies in India, on the 30th April in each Year, from 1814 to 1827, both inclusive.
No. 5.-An Account of the Amount of the Assets of The East India Company, at the several Presidencies in India, on the 30th April in each Year, from 1809 to 1813, both inclusive.
No. 6.-An Account of the Amount of the Assets of The East India Company, at the several Presidencies and Settlements in India, on the 30th April in each Year, from the Year 1814 to the Year 1827, both inclusive; distinguishing the Territorial from the Commercial Assets.
No. 7.-Abstract Statement of the Result of the Debts and Assets of The East India Company, in India, on the 30th April in each Year, from 1809 to 1827, both inclusive.
No. 8.-Computation of the Rate of Interest payable on the Indian Debt, on the 30th April 1809, 30th April 1814 and 30th April 1828.
No. 9.-An Account of the Sums received at the Presidencies of Fort William, Fort St. George and Bombay, for Sales of Import Goods and Stores, in each Year, from the Year 1809-10 to the Year 1827-28 inclusive.
No. 10.-An Account of the Commercial Charges, not added to the Invoices, at the several Presidencies in India respectively, from the Year 1809-10 to 1813-14 inclusive.
No. 11.-An Account of the Commercial Charges, not added to the Invoices, at the several Presidencies in India respectively, from the Year 1814-15 to the Year 1827-28 inclusive.
No. 12.-An Account shewing the Amount of all Advances made at the several Presidencies and Settlements in India, for the Purposes of Commerce, in so far as regards the Purchase of Investments for Europe, from the Year 1809-10 to 1813-14 inclusive; shewing the Amount applied to the Purchase of Investment in China; and distinguishing the Amount issued in Repayment of Territorial Charges defrayed in England, from the Amount issued from Commercial Funds.
No. 13.-An Account shewing the Amount of all Advances made at the several Presidencies and Settlements in India, for the Purposes of Commerce, in so far as regards the Purchase of Investments for Europe, from the Year 1814-15 to 1827-28 inclusive; shewing the Amount applied to the Purchase of Investment in China; and distinguishing the Amount issued in Repayment of Territorial Charges defrayed in England from the Amount issued from Commercial Funds.
No. 14.-An Account shewing the Amount of all Supplies from the several Presidencies and Settlements in India to the Factory at Canton, in each Year, from the Year 1809-10 to 1827-28 inclusive.
No. 15.-An Account shewing the Amount of all Supplies received at the several Presidencies and Settlements in India, &c. from the Factory at Canton, in each Year, from the Year 1809-10 to the Year 1827-28 inclusive.
No. 16.-An Account of Sums written off the Books of the several Presidencies in India respectively, as Losses, from the Year 1809-10 to the Year 1813-14 inclusive, which have not been inserted in the Charges of the said Presidencies.
No. 17.-An Account of all Sums written off the Territorial Books of the several Presidencies in India respectively, as Losses, from the Year 1814-15 to the Year 1826-27 inclusive, which have not been inserted in the Charges of the said Presidencies.
No. 18.-An Account of the Increase of Dead Stock in India, consisting of Plate, Household Furniture, Stores, &c. &c. between April 1809 and April 1814, the Expence of which is not included in the Charges; distinguishing what was purchased in India from what was supplied by England, so far as the same can be done.
No. 19.-An Account of the Increase of Dead Stock in India, consisting of Plate, Household Furniture, Stores, &c. &c. between April 1814 and April 1827, the Expence of which is not included in the Charges; distinguishing what was purchased in India from what was supplied by England, so far as the same can be done; distinguishing also the Territorial from the Commercial Dead Stock.
No. 20.-General Statement, shewing the Amount of the Proceeds of the Sales of Goods and Merchandize of The East India Company in Great Britain, and of their Commercial and other Receipts, Charges and Payments in Great Britain, under the several Heads thereof, in each Year, from 1st of March 1810 to 30th April 1814.
No. 21.-General Statement, shewing the Amount of the Proceeds of the Sales of Goods and Merchandize of The East India Company in Great Britain, and of their Commercial and other Receipts, Charges and Payments in Great Britain, under the several Heads thereof, from the Year 1814-15 to the Year 1828-29 inclusive, according to the Annual Accounts presented to Parliament; distinguishing the Receipts and Payments in the Political and Territorial Branch from the Receipts and Payments in the Commercial Branch.
No. 22.-General Statement of the Bond and Simple Contract Debts of The East India Company, the State of Cash remaining in their Treasury, and other Effects appertaining to them, in Great Britain and afloat, on the 1st March in each Year, from 1811 to 1813 inclusive, and on the 1st of May 1814.
No. 23.-General Statement of the Bond Debts and Simple Contract Debts of The East India Company, with the Rates of Interest they respectively carry, and the Amount of such Interest, and the State of Cash remaining in the Treasury, and other Effects appertaining to the Company, in Great Britain and afloat, on the 1st May in each Year, from 1815 to 1829 inclusive; distinguishing the Debts and Assets in the Political and Territorial Branch from the Debts and Assets in the Commercial Branch.
No. 24.-An Account of Stock per Computation of The East India Company, (exclusive of their Capital Stock,) drawn out, in respect to England, to the 1st May 1815, and in respect to India, to 1st May 1814.
No. 25.-Stock per Computation of The East India Company, (exclusive of their Capital Stock,) drawn out, in respect to England, to 1st May 1828, and in respect to India, to 1st May 1827.
No. 26.-Sale Amount of Privilege and Private Trade Goods sold at The East India Company's Sales, from 1810-11 to 1828-29; distinguishing India from China.
No. 27.-An Account of the Sale Amount of the Company's, the Private Trade and the Neutral and Prize Goods, &c. sold by The East India Company in each Year, from 1810-11 to 1828-29 inclusive.
No. 28.-An Account shewing the Invoice Amount of all Goods, Stores and Bullion exported by The East India Company to their several Presidencies and Settlements in India respectively, to the Island of St. Helena and their Factory at Canton, from the Season 1810-11 to the Season 1828-29 inclusive; distinguishing each Season, likewise the Amount of Goods from Stores, and the Bullion on the Political Account from the Bullion on the Commercial Account.
No. 29.-An Account of all Sums received by The East India Company on Bills of Exchange remitted to them from their several Presidencies and Settlements in India, and their Factory at Canton respectively, in each Year, from 1810-11 to 1813-14 inclusive; distinguishing Bills drawn on Territorial and Commercial Account, and shewing also the Amount drawn on the Departments of His Majesty's Government.
No. 30.-An Account of all Sums received by The East India Company on Bills of Exchange remitted to them from their several Presidencies and Settlements in India and their Factory at Canton respectively, in each Year, from 1814-15 to 1828-29 inclusive; distinguishing Bills drawn on Territorial and Commercial Account, and shewing also the Amount drawn on the Departments of His Majesty's Government.
No. 31.-An Account shewing the Amount of all Sums paid by The East India Company from their Treasury in England, supposed to be chargeable to the Territories in India, from the Year 1810-11 to the Year 1813-14 inclusive.
No. 32.-An Account shewing the Amount of all Sums paid by The East India Company from their Treasury in England, chargeable to the Territories in India, from the Year 1814-15 to the Year 1828-29 inclusive.
No. 33.-An Account shewing the Amount of all Bills of Exchange and Certificates paid by The East India Company in each Year, from 1st March 1810 to 30th April 1814 inclusive; distinguishing India from China; and specifying, as far as practicable, such as were for Liquidation of Indian Debt, for Interest on Indian Debt, and for general Purposes.
No. 34.-An Account shewing the Amount of all Bills of Exchange and Certificates paid by The East India Company in each Year, from the 1st May 1814 to the 30th April 1829 inclusive; distinguishing India from China; and specifying, as far as practicable, such as were for Liquidation of Indian Debt, for Interest on Indian Debt, and for general Purposes.
No. 35.-Statement of the Rates of Exchange at which Bills have been drawn upon India by The East India Company, from 1812 to the latest Period.
No. 36.-Statement of the Rates of Exchange at which Bills have been drawn from India upon The East India Company, from 1812 to the latest Period.
No. 37.-An Account of Imports and Exports between Great Britain and all Places to the Eastward of the Cape of Good Hope; (excepting China;) distinguishing the Articles and the Value, and the Private Trade from that of The East India Company, in each Year, from 1813 to the latest Period to which the same can be made up.
"No. 38.-An Account of all Goods imported into Great Britain from the East Indies and China, (exclusive of the Mauritius,) in each of the Four Years ending 5th January 1829; specifying the Quantity and Value of the principal Articles imported.
No. 39.-An Account of all Goods exported from Great Britain to the East Indies and China, (exclusive of the Mauritius,) for each of the Six Years ending 5th January 1829.
No. 40.-A Statement of the Commerce of British India with Great Britain, North America, South America, and Foreign Europe, from 1811-12 to 1826-27, both inclusive; distinguishing the Trade of The East India Company from that of Individuals, and Merchandize from Treasure.
Imports into Bengal.
Exports from Do.
Imports into Bombay and Surat.
Exports from Do.
Imports into Fort St. George and Subordinates.
Exports from Do.
Abstract of the whole.
No. 41.-A Return of the Quantities and Prices of the several Sorts of Teas sold by The East India Company in each Year during the present Charter, 1st May to 1st May.
No. 42.-A Statement shewing the Average Sale Price per lb. of all Teas sold by The East India Company in each Year during the present Charter.
No. 43.-An Account of the Quantity of Tea exported from Great Britain to Foreign Europe, to British Colonies and Possessions, and to all other Parts, in each Year, from 1814 to 10th October 1829.
No. 44.-Copy of a Letter from John Backhouse, Esq. to the Secretary of the Board of Controul, dated at the Foreign Office, 18th February 1829; with One Enclosure.
(Enclosure)-Copy of a Letter from Alexander Ferrier, Esq. His Majesty's Consul at Rotterdam, to John Bidwell, Esq., dated 7th October 1828."
Ordered, That the said Papers do lie on the Table.
Affairs of The East India Co. Select Comee respecting, appointed.
The Order of the Day being read for the Lords to be summoned;
It was moved, "That a Select Committee be appointed to enquire into the present State of the Affairs of The East India Company, and into the Trade between Great Britain, the East Indies and China."
The Question was put thereupon?
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Ordered, That the Lords following be appointed a Select Committee to enquire into the present State of the Affairs of The East India Company, and into the Trade between Great Britain, the East Indies and China:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet Tomorrow, at Four o'Clock in the Afternoon, in the Prince's Lodgings, near the House of Peers; and to adjourn as they please.
Poor Rates, Motion respecting, withdrawn.
It was moved, "That there be laid before this House, "A Return of the Amount of Money levied and expended for the Relief of the Poor in each Parish in England and Wales, for the Year ending 25th March 1830; specifying the Amount paid for other Purposes than the actual Relief of the Poor."
Which being objected to;
The said Motion was (by Leave of the House) withdrawn.
Lords summoned.
Ordered, That all the Lords be summoned to attend the Service of the House on Tuesday the 20th of April next.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Mercurii, decimum diem instantis Februarii, horâ decimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.