House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 25 March 1643

DIE Sabbati, 25 die Martii.

PRAYERS.

Earl of Manchester, Speaker this Day.

Ansi and Chamberlain, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Ansi and Mr. Chamberlaine, Servants in Ordinary to the King, shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, to wait upon the King in their Places there.

Letter from Lord Grey of Groby, about assessing several Persons.

Order upon it.

Countess of Devonshire, a Protection.

The Speaker acquainted this House, "That he hath received a Letter from the Lord Grey of Groby, who desires Directions from this House, for the assessing of the Earl of Newporte and the Lord Brudnell, for the Lands they have in Leycestershire; and, because they conceive that Mr. Ca'ndishe's Estate (who is in actual War against the Parliament) is intermingled with the Countess of Devon's Estate, so as they cannot distrain upon the Estate of Mr. Cavendish; and that the Lord Viscount Campden hath raised a Troop of Horse, and commands them himself, and is about Bever Castle, and desired Directions herein:" Hereupon this House Ordered, That the Speaker of this House shall write to the Lord Grey, and let him know, "That this House hath already rated the Earl of Newport and the Lord Brudnell; and that the Lord Viscount Campden deceased was rated at Two Thousand Pounds, which their Lordships resolve the young Lord Viscount Campden shall be responsible for; and further to let his Lordship know, that Mr. Cavendish hath but an Annuity on the Countess of Devon's Estate: And it is further Ordered, That the Countess of Devon shall have the Protection of this House, for the preserving of her House and Goods in Leycestershire, and of the Profits about Chadsworth in the County of Derby."

Message from the H. C. for Concurrence in the following Orders, &c.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Trenchard:

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in these Orders following:

1. An Order for Payment of One Hundred Pounds to the Bishop of Ardagh. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

2. An Order for Payment of Four Thousand Pounds to Andrew Dicke Esquire, towards the Payment of the Brotherly Assistance. (Here enter.)

Agreed to.

3. To desire Concurrence in a Letter to be sent to the Committees at Oxford, by the next Messenger.

(Here enter it.)

Agreed.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That their Lordships do agree to the Two Orders now brought up, and to the Letter to be (fn. 1) sent to Oxford.

Sir James Gallaway, a Protection.

Ordered, That Sir James Gallaway shall have a Protection for his House in St. Martins Lane, to preserve it from Plundering.

Letter to the Committee at Oxford, to seek Restitution of some Cloaths taken by the King's Forces at Reading.

"My Lord and Gentlemen,

"The Houses being informed, that His Majesty hath been graciously pleased, according to the Encouragement He gave to all His loving Subjects by His late Proclamation, to cause Restitution to be made of the Cloaths taken by His Forces at Reading, contrary to the Meaning of that Proclamation to the several Owners thereof; and being further informed that some of those Cloaths, belonging to Mr. John Ashe, a Member of the House of Commons, by what Occasion they know not, are notwithstanding refused to be delivered, which they cannot conceive to be done by any particular Directions from His Majesty; have commanded us to desire you to know His Majesty's Pleasure herein; not doubting but, when His Majesty shall be truly by you informed, He will extend the same Measure of Justice to all His loving Subjects, as He hath given Encouragement to all freely to trade without any Distinction; and not to give Occasion to the House to complain that a Member of theirs should not receive the same Justice, especially at such a Time when, by a Treaty thus far advanced, there are Hopes raised in the Hearts of all Men, of a right Understanding between His Majesty and His Parliament. So, having nothing else in Command to write unto you, we rest,

Westm. this 24th of March, 1642.

"Your Servants."

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went into the Prince's Lodgings, to consider of the Ordinance for seizing the Estates of Papists and other Delinquents.

The House was resumed.

Message from the H. C. to expedite the Ordinance for seizing Estates of Papists, &c.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Peter Wentworth, Knight of the Bath, which consisted of these Particulars:

1. To desire their Lordships to give all convenient Expedition to the passing of the Ordinance for the seizing of the Estates of Papists.

and for Concurrence in another Ordinance.

2. To desire their Lordships Concurrence in an Ordinance of associating of the Counties of Salop, Stafford, and Warrwicke.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That their Lordships will go on upon the Ordinance concerning the seizing of Papists, &c. Estates with all Expedition as may be; and their Lordships will send an Answer, by Messengers of their own, concerning the Ordinance of the associating of the Counties of War. and Stafford.

Message from the H. C. to fit P. M.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir John Evelyn Knight:

To let their Lordships know, that they intend to sit this Afternoon, at Four of the Clock, and desire their Lordships to sit likewise.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House will sit this Afternoon, at Four of the Clock, as is desired.

Mrs. Luson, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mrs. Luson shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, with Servants, and return again to London.

Ordinance for seizing Estates of Papists, &c.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Ordinance of seizing the Estates of Papists shall meet this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock.

Mr. Rosse, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Rosse shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, and return again to London.

Order for 100l. to the Bishop of Ardagh.

"The Lords and Commons, taking Notice of the Piety and Learning of the Right Reverend John Richardson, Doctor in Divinity, and Bishop of Ardagh in Ireland, and how much he hath merited of the Church, by his great Industry, and frequent Preaching, and exemplary Life; and being fully informed how the said Bishop of Ardagh (fn. 2) hath been utterly ruined and dispoiled of all he had, by the cruel and insolent Rebels in Ireland: In tender Consideration of his Condition, and out of a compassionate Desire to afford him some present Support, it is Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the Treasurers in London, for the Contribution-monies for Ireland, do forthwith pay unto the said Bishop, or his Assigns, the full Sum of One Hundred Pounds, out of such Monies as are now in their Hands, or shall first come into their Hands, upon the said Acts of Contribution-Monies for Ireland; and that an Acquittance under the Hand of the said Bishop, or his Assigns, together with this Order, shall be a sufficient Warrant and Discharge to the said Treasurers for so much Monies as they shall pay upon this Order."

Order for 4000l. to be paid to Mr. Dicke.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, That Four Thousand Pounds be paid, by the Treasurers and Receivers of the Four Hundred Thousand Pounds Bill, to Andrewe Dick Esquire, before all other former Orders and Assignments whatsoever, out of the Money now present in their Hands, or the Monies that shall next come into their Hands of the First or Second Payments of the said Bill due by the Citizens of London and Westm. and the Suburbs of them, for and towards the Payment of the Brotherly Assistance due from this Kingdom to the Kingdom of Scotland at Midsummer last; and that this Order, with the said Mr. Dick's Receipt, shall be a sufficient Warrant and Discharge to the said Treasurers, for so much as they shall pay upon this Order."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 4^a post meridiem.

Post meridiem.

PRAYERS.

Earl of Manchester, Speaker.

Colonel Hurrey, a Pass.

Ordered, That Colonel Hurrey shall have a Pass, to go to Windsor, to the Lord General, and return back again.

Message from the H. C. for Concurrence in the following Ordinance;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Henry Vane, Junior, which was:

1. To desire their Lordships Concurrence in an Ordinance for settling of the Customers, and desired Expedition therein. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

and Order to sequestrate the Profits of Thorley from Mr. Pory.

2. An Order for sequestering the Profits of the Parish of Thorley, in the County of Hertford, from Rob't Pory.

Mr. Pory to be heard.

Ordered, That the said Rob't Pory shall have Notice to appear before this House on Thursday next, and make Answer to these particular Offences expressed in this Ordinance.

The Answer returned was:

Answer to the H. C.

That this House agrees with the House of Commons in the Ordinance for settling of the Customers; and touching the Order of Sequestration, this House will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Message from thence, for a Conference about the King's Message.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Rogers:

To desire a Conference, concerning the Message that came from His Majesty.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That their Lordships will give the House of Commons a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber.

Mr. Jennings, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Jennings shall have a Pass, go to Oxford, and return again to London.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

The Speaker reported the Effect of this Conference:

Report of the Conference about the King's Message.

"That the House of Commons presented to their Lordships Consideration some Reasons to be sent to His Majesty, which moved the Houses to present to His Majesty the Articles for the Cessation, (fn. 3) with those Qualifications; and likewise some Instructions to be sent to the Committees at Oxford concerning these Reasons,"

Instructions for the Committee with the King.

The Reasons and Instructions were read; and this House agreed to the same, and that the Speaker shall write a Letter to the Earl of Northumb. and inclose them.

Message to the H. C. that the Lords agree to them.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by

To let them know, that this House agrees with the House of Commons to the Reasons and Instructions to be sent to the King; and have appointed the Speaker of this House to send the same to the Earl of Northumb.

Rich, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Charles Rich shall have a Pass, to Oxford, and return again to London.

Ordinance for the Commissioners of the Customs to repay themselves 20,000l. advanced for the Navy, and to remain in Office a Year.

"Whereas Thomas Andrewes, John Fowke, Richard Chambers, and William Barkley, Aldermen of the City of London, Maurice Thomson, Francis Allyn, James Russell, and Stephen Estwicke, Merchants, according (fn. 4) to divers Propositions voted and assented to by the Honourable House of Commons the 14th of January last, are, by an Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament, Ordained and constituted to be Collectors, or Commissioners, enabled to receive all such Sums of Money as shall at any Time hereafter be paid for Customs, or advanced by Way of Loan, or otherwise, for and in respect of Goods and Merchandizes exported out of, and imported into, the Port of London, and all other Ports within the Realm of England, Dominion of Wales, and Town of Barwick; and have advanced, by Way of Loan, for the Supply of the pressing Necessities of the Navy, the Sum of Twenty Thousand Pounds, lawful Money: It is now Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That the said Commissioners shall re-pay unto themselves, by Way of Defalcation, out of the One Half of the said Receipts, the aforesaid Sum of Twenty Thousand Pounds, with Interest for the same after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent. for a Year, at the End of Six Months next to be elapsed and expired, to be accounted from the 21st Day of January last, when the said Money was paid: It is likewise Ordained, by the said Lords and Commons, That the said Commissioners shall continue in the said Employment for One entire Year, to begin from the 25th of March, 1643, and shall not be displaced or dismissed from the said Employment without Order of both Houses of Parliament, nor until they be reimbursed the said Twenty Thousand Pounds advanced and lent as aforesaid, and all other Sum and Sums of Money which they shall at any Time or Times hereafter further advance or disburse, with Interest after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent. per Ann. for the same, and be likewise paid all such Allowance and Salary for the said Service, as shall be in Arrear and unpaid at the Time of such their Dismission and Discharge; and that the said Commissioners shall Quarterly defalk the Sum of Two Thousand Five Hundred Pounds, and all such other Allowances as the former Commissioners have had, out of the said Collections and Receipts, for their Performance of the Service aforesaid, during the whole Time of their said Employment, and shall be allowed the same upon their Accompts; and as for all Payments to be from Time to Time made by the said Commissioners, or their Deputies, as well to Merchants and others, for Customs of Goods exported, which formerly were imported, according to the Orders annexed to the last Book of Rates, as also to Clerks and every other Person which they shall find necessary to be employed in this Service under them, the said Commissioners, or their Deputy or Deputies, by their Appointment and Order, shall issue the said Payments out of the Receipts aforesaid, and be likewise allowed the same in their Accompts."