House of Lords Journal Volume 4: 28 June 1641

DIE Lunæ, videlicet, 28 die Junii.

PRAYERS.

Countess of Bedford's Bill.

Hodie 2^a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the settling of certain Lands, Manors, Tenements, and Hereditaments, on Katherine Countess of Bedford, John Russell, and Edward Russell, Esquires, Sons of Francis Earl of Bedford, deceased.

Committed to

Their Lordships, or any Four or more of them, to meet on Wednesday next, in the Afternoon.

Report about the King's Journey into Scotland.

This Day the Earl of Bristoll reported, "That the King commanded him to let their Lordships know, That He hath spoken with the Scottish Commissioners touching the deferring of His Journey into Scotland for a little Time; and the Scottish Commissioners say, That when this Motion comes to them from the Parliament, that it may appear the deferring comes not from the King, but from the Desire of both Houses to accommodate the Affairs of this Kingdom, they will give such an Answer therein as shall be fitting."

The Ten Heads.

Hereupon it was (fn. 1) Resolved, That the select Committee of this House concerning the Ten Heads do meet with the select Committee of the House of Commons, and consider of what shall be propounded to the Scottish Commissioners, that it may be given to them in Writing, and they desired to return their Answer in Writing.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Serjeant Glanvile and Dr. Bennet:

Message to the H. C. for a Conference on them.

That this House doth desire a Meeting this Afternoon, at Four of the Clock, in the Painted Chamber, by the select Committees of both Houses appointed to consider of the Ten Heads.

The Answer was:

Answer.

That the select Committee of the House of Commons will give the select Committee of this House a Meeting, as is desired.

Deferring the King's Journey into Scotland.

Then these Lords were appointed by this House to attend His Majesty, and desire Him that the Lords Commission ers may move the Scotts Commissioners from Him, for the deferring His Journey into Scotland for a Time: videlicet,

Lord Mayor and Commoners of London—about the Election of Sheriffs.

The Petition of the Lord Mayor and Aldermen of the City of London, lately presented to the King, was, by His Majesty's Command, this Day delivered to the House, and referred to the Determination of Parliament. The Effect of the Petition is, "concerning the sole Election of one of the Sheriffs of London, which the Lord Mayor claims to have by Prescription of Three Hundred Years, which the Commons of the said City dissent unto, unless it be with their Confirmation and Approbation:" Hereupon it is Ordered, That the Lord Mayor, Recorder, some of the Aldermen, and some of the Commons of the City of London, shall have Notice to attend this House Tomorrow Morning, at Eight a Clock, at which Time their Lordships will hear both Sides what they can say in this Business.

Prisoners in The King's Bench.

Ordered, That the Cause concerning the Prisoners in The King's Bench shall be heard before the Lords Committees for Petitions, on Thursday Morning next, at Eight a Clock.

Sir Balth. Gerbier, account of his Agency at Brussels.

Next, Sir Balthazar Gerbier was called in, to give an Account of his Negotiations and Endeavours which he made, when he was Agent for His Majesty at Bruzells, for the restoring of those Ships and Goods of His Majesty's Subjects, which were unjustly and unlawfully taken by the Dunkirkers in Time of Peace and Amity, and why there hath not any Reparations been given for the same, and what Impediments he knows, why there is no Satisfaction given to the Parties that have received Losses in this Kind; and, after the said Sir Baltbazar Gerbier had made a large and full Declaration of the whole Business, and how he was dealt withall in his Dispatches, the House did Order him to set down under his Hand what he now verbally declared to this House.

The Lords which were appointed to attend the King, return with this Answer:

The King's Answer concerning the deferring His Journey into Scotland.

"That His Majesty is well pleased that the Lords Commissioners do intimate to the Scottish Commissioners the Desire of the Parliament, for deferring His Journey to Scotland for a Time; and thinks it fit that the Paper containing the Second Head, without the Reasons, be shewed to them, and the Paper drawn up by the Committee delivered to them; and they to return their Answer in Writing:"

Proclamation for Obedience to the Lord General in disbanding the Army.

Next was read a Proclamation, for Obedience to be given to the Lord General, and others, Officers in the disbanding of the King's Army.

Message from the H. C. concerning the Abp. of Cant's Impeachment, and Examination of Witnesses in his Cause.

A Message was sent up from the House of Commons by Mr. Pym; who was commanded to let their Lordships know, "That formerly they brought up an Impeachment of High Treason against the Archbishop of Cant. which hath lain asleep ever since; but now they intend to proceed, and examine divers Witnesses concerning that Business; therefore desired their Lordships, That a select Committee may be appointed, to examine such Witnesses as the House of Commons shall desire; and that to be in the Presence of some Members of the House of Commons as they shall appoint.

"And that those Examinations be kept secret, as in the Case of the Earl of Strafford.

"And that, as they have made an Order in their House, to examine such Members of their House as are requisite, so they desire their Lordships will be pleased to provide that such Members and Assistants of this House as they shall nominate may be examined."

Ordered, That this House will join with the House of Commons in this whole Message.

The same Course to be taken in this as in the E. of Strafford's Impeachment.

Ordered, That the same deputed Lords do take the Examination of Witnesses upon Oath in the Cause concerning the Archbishop of Cant. as were deputed in the Earl of Strafford's; and the same Oath to be administered, and the same Course to be observed in the rest of the Particulars.

Ordered, That the now Earl of Bedford shall be added to the deputed Lords, in his Father's Room; and Mr. Attorney General and Mr. Serjeant Glanvile are appointed to write down the Examinations.

Depredations by the French, etc.

Ordered, That the Business of the Depredations shall be considered of To-morrow Morning.

Adjourn.

Dominus Capitalis Justiciarius de Communi Banco, Locum tenens Domini Custodis Magni Sigilli, declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in horam 5^m post meridiem hujus instantis diei, Dominis sic decernentibus.

Post meridiem.

PRAYERS.

Order about the Goods of Abbot.

Ordered, That the Goods of Edward Abbott, Merchant, now or late in the Ship called The William and Thomas (Tho. Porter being Master), and other Goods now or late in the Ship called The London of London, (John Stephens being Master), shall, upon Sight hereof, be landed and brought into His Majesty's Custom House of London, and be subject to the King's Extent, for His Majesty's Debt of Twelve Thousand Pounds; and the same to be first paid, and afterwards the Remainder of the said Goods shall be put into safe and responsible Hands, whereby the Creditors of the said Edward Abbott shall be paid their just and due Debts out of the said Goods, according to Law.

Adjourn.

Dominus Capitalis Justiciarius de Communi Banco, Locum tenens Domini Custodis Magni Sigilli, declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Martis, videlicet, 29^m diem instantis Junii, hora 9^a, Dominis sic decernentibus.