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In this section
July 1785 11-20
DIE Lunæ, 11o Julii 1785.
Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:
PRAYERS.
Bank Loan Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for further postponing the Payment of the Sum of Two Millions advanced by the Governor and Company of the Bank of England towards the Supply for the Service of the Year One thousand seven hundred and eighty-one."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Pilchard Fishery Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for the Encouragement of the Pilchard Fishery, by allowing a farther Bounty upon Pilchards taken, cured, and exported."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Messages to H. C. that the Lords have agreed to the Two preceding Bills.
And Messages were, severally, sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Holford and Mr. Eames:
To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the said Bills, without any Amendment.
City Compters Bill.
Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to enable the Mayor and Commonalty, and Citizens of the City of London to pull down the Poultry and Wood Street Compters, and to purchase certain Ground and Buildings within the said City, for the Purpose of re-building the same."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the Consideration of the Lords following:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on Friday next, at Ten o'Clock in the Forenoon, in the Prince's Lodgings near the House of Peers; and to adjourn as they please.
Salt Allowances Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Gilbert and others:
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for reducing the Allowances for Waste on Salt and Rock Salt; for regulating the Exportation of Salt to Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney, and Sark; for repealing the Laws allowing the Use of Foul Salt for Manure only; for allowing a Drawback on the Exportation of Glauber or Epsom Salts; for restraining Fish Curers from being Dealers in Salt; for regulating the Exportation of Herrings from the Isle of Man; for better securing the Duties on Salt; and for indemnifying Persons who have been guilty of Offences against the Laws relating to the Duties on Salt;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Turpentine Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Thornton and others:
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to amend so much of an Act passed in the Fourteenth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty, for the further and better Regulation of Buildings and Party Walls, and for the more effectually preventing Mischiefs by Fire within the Cities of London and Westminster and the Liberties thereof, and other the Places therein mentioned as relates to Manufactories of Turpentine; for extending the Provisions of the said Act so amended to Manufactories of Pitch, Tar, and Turpentine throughout that Part of Great Britain called England; and for indemnifying the Proprietor of a Turpentine Manufactory in Potter's Fields in the Borough of Southwark, against the Penalties he may be liable to under the said Act, and for excepting for a limited Time his said Manufactory from the Provisions herein contained;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
King's Bounty Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Gilbert and others:
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to authorize the Lord Steward of the Household, the Lord Chamberlain, the Master of the Horse, the Master of the Robes, and the Lords of the Treasury respectively, to pay Bounties granted by His Majesty to Persons in low and indigent Circumstances;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Phillips's Reward Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Gilbert and others:
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for providing a Reward to Henry Phillips on his making a proper Discovery for the Use of the Public of the Composition of his Powder for the Destruction of Insects;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Flasks Duty Repeal, &c. Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Gilbert and others:
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to repeal the Duties upon Flasks in which Florence Wine and Oil is imported; to permit the Importation of Wines in small Casks for private Use; to revive, continue and amend so much of an Act made in the Sixteenth Year of His present Majesty as allows the Exportation of certain Quantities of Wheat and other Articles to His Majesty's Sugar Colonies in America; for disallowing the Drawback on the Exportation of Snuff; for continuing the Permission to land Rum or Spirits of the British Sugar Plantations before Payment of the Duties of Excise; for reviving and continuing the Premiums upon the Importation of Pitch, Tar, and Turpentine from East Florida into Great Britain; for allowing a Bounty upon the Exportation of Silk Gauzes, and a Drawback upon the Exportation of Raw Silk;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
The said Five Bills were, severally, read the First Time.
York Buildings Company against Ld. Elphinstone.
Upon reading the Petition and Appeal of the Governor and Company of Undertakers for raising the Thames Water in York Buildings, complaining of an Interlocutor of the Lords of Session in Scotland of the 28th of June 1785; and praying, "That the same may be reversed or varied, or that the Appellants may have such other Relief in the Premises as to this House in their Lordships' great Wisdom shall seem meet; and that John Lord Elphinstone may be required to answer the said Appeal:"
It is Ordered, That the said John Lord Elphinstone may have a Copy of the said Appeal, and do put in his Answer thereunto in Writing on or before Monday the 8th Day of August next; and Service of this Order upon the said Respondent or upon his known Counsel, Attornies or Agents in the Court of Session in Scotland, shall be deemed good Service.
Lottery Bill.
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act for granting to His Majesty a certain Sum of Money to be raised by a Lottery."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And the Lord Hawke reported from the Committee, "That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Mail Coaches Exemption from Toll, Bill.
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to exempt Carriages carrying the Mail from paying Tolls at any Turnpike Gate in Great Britain."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And the Lord Hawke reported from the Committee, "That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Sinking Fund Bill.
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act for granting to His Majesty a certain Sum of Money out of the Sinking Fund, and for applying certain Monies therein mentioned for the Service of the Year One thousand seven hundred and eighty-five; and for further appropriating the Supplies granted in this Session of Parliament; and for providing a Compensation to the Clerks in the Offices of the principal Secretaries of State for the Advantages such Clerks enjoyed before the Commencement of an Act made in the Twenty-fourth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty for establishing certain Regulations concerning the Portage and Convey ance of Letters and Packets by the Post between Great Britain and Ireland."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And the Lord Hawke reported from the Committee, That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Ireland, House in Committee on Resolutions of H. C. respecting.
The Order of the Day being read for the House to resolve itself again into a Committee upon the Resolutions come to by the Commons relative to an Adjustment of the Commercial Intercourse between Great Britain and Ireland; and for the Lords to be summoned:
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee thereupon.
After some Time, the House was resumed.
Ordered, That the further Consideration of the said Irish Commercial Resolutions be adjourned till Tomorrow; and the Lords summoned.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Martis, duodecimum diem instantis Julii, horâ undecimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.
DIE Martis, 12o Julii 1785.
Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:
PRAYERS.
Blackfriars Bridge Bill, Petition in Support of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Commons of the City of London, in Common Council assembled, taking Notice of a Bill depending in this House, intituled, "An Act for laying a Toll upon all Horses and Carriages passing on a Sunday through any Turnpike at or near the Circus, in Saint George's Fields, in the County of Surrey, towards increasing the Fund for watching, lighting, cleansing, watering, and repairing Blackfriar's Bridge;" and praying their Lordships, for the Reasons therein mentioned, "That a Day may be appointed for the Second Reading of the said Bill, that the Petitioners may be heard by their Counsel in Support of the Allegations therein contained, and that it may pass into a Law; or that they may have such other Relief in the Premises as to the House shall seem meet:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Lottery Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for granting to His Majesty a certain Sum of Money to be raised by a Lottery."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Mail Coaches Exemption from Toll, Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to exempt Carriages, carrying the Mail, from paying Tolls at any Turnpike Gate in Great Britain."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Sinking Fund Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for granting to His Majesty a certain Sum of Money out of the Sinking Fund; and for applying certain Monies therein mentioned for the Service of the Year One thousand seven hundred and eighty-five; and for further appropriating the Supplies granted in this Session of Parliament, and for providing a Compensation to the Clerks in the Offices of the Principal Secretaries of State, for the Advantages such Clerks enjoyed before the Commencement of an Act made in the Twenty-fourth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty for establishing certain Regulations concerning the Portage and Conveyance of Letters and Packets by the Post, between Great Britain and Ireland."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Messages to H. C. that the Lords have agreed to the Three preceding Bills.
And Messages were, severally, sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Holford and Mr. Eames:
To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the said Bills, without any Amendment.
Salt Allowances Bill.
Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for reducing the Allowances for Waste on Salt and Rock Salt; for regulating the Exportation of Salt to Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney, and Sark; for repealing the Laws allowing the Use of Foul Salt for Manure only; for allowing a Drawback on the Exportation of Glauber or Epsom Salts; for restraining Fish-Curers from being Dealers in Salt; for regulating the Exportation of Herrings from the Isle of Man; for better securing the Duties on Salt; and for indemnifying Persons who have been guilty of Offences against the Laws relating to the Duties on Salt."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill To-morrow.
Turpentine Bill.
Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to amend so much of an Act passed in the Fourteenth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty, for the further and better Regulation of Buildings and Party Walls; and for the more effectually preventing Mischiefs by Fire within the Cities of London and Westminster, and the Liberties thereof, and other the Places therein mentioned, as relates to Manufactories of Turpentine; for extending the Provisions of the said Act so amended to Manufactories of Pitch, Tar, and Turpentine, throughout that Part of Great Britain called England; and for indemnifying the Proprietor of a Turpentine Manufactory in Potter's Fields, in the Borough of Southwark, against the Penalties he may be liable to under the said Act; and for excepting, for a limited Time, his said Manufactory from the Provisions herein contained."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill To-morrow.
King's Bounty Bill.
Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to authorise the Lord Steward of the Household, the Lord Chamberlain, the Master of the House, the Master of the Robes, and the Lords of the Treasury, respectively to pay Bounties granted by His Majesty to Persons in low and indigent Circumstances."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill To-morrow.
Flasks Duty, Repeal, &c. Bill.
Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to repeal the Duties upon Flasks in which Florence Wine and Oil is imported; to permit the Importation of Wines in small Casks for Private Use, to revive, continue, and amend so much of an Act made in the Sixteenth Year of His present Majesty, as allows the Exportation of certain Quantities of Wheat, and other Articles, to His Majesty's Sugar Colonies in America; for disallowing the Drawback on the Exportation of Snuff; for continuing the Permission to land Rum or Spirits of the British Sugar Plantations, before Payment of the Duties of Excise; for reviving and continuing the Premiums upon the Importation of Pitch, Tar, and Turpentine, from East Florida into Great Britain; for allowing a Bounty upon the Exportation of Silk Gauzes, and a Drawback upon the Exportation of Raw Silk."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill on Friday next.
Ireland, House in Committee on Resolutions of H. C. respecting.
The Order of the Day being read for the House to resolve itself again into a Committee upon the Resolutions come to by the Commons, relative to an Adjustment of the Commercial Intercourse between Great Britain and Ireland; and for the Lords to be summoned:
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee thereupon.
After some Time, the House was resumed.
Ordered, That the further Consideration of the said Irish Commercial Resolutions be adjourned till To-morrow; and the Lords summoned.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Mercurii, decimum tertium diem instantis Junii, horâ undecimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.
DIE Mercurii, 13o Julii 1785.
Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:
PRAYERS.
Plate Duty Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Steele and others:
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for altering and amending an Act made in the last Session of Parliament, intituled, An Act for granting to His Majesty certain Duties on all Gold and Silver Plate imported; and also certain Duties on all Gold and Silver wrought Plate made in Great Britain;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Brewers' Allowances Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Steele and others:
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to declare that Brewers selling Beer or Ale in less Quantities than a Cask, containing Four Gallons and a Half, shall not be entitled to any Allowance out of the Duties of Excise for Waste or Leakage; and for making Allowances to Distillers of Low Wines and Spirits from Malt, Corn, or Grain, in respect to the Duties imposed by an Act of the last Session of Parliament;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Bricks and Tiles Duty Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Steele and others:
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to explain and amend an Act made in the Twenty-fourth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty, intituled, "An Act for granting to His Majesty, certain Rates and Duties upon Bricks and Tiles made in Great Britain, and for laying additional Duties on Bricks and Tiles imported into the same;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
The said three Bills were, severally, read the First Time.
Cuninghame against Cuninghame et al:
Upon reading the Petition and Appeal of William Cuninghame, of Lainshaw Esquire; complaining of Two Interlocutors of the Lords of Session in Scotland, of the 17th of June and 5th of July 1785; and praying, "That the same may be reversed, varied, or amended, or that the Appellant may have such other Relief in the Premises, as to this House in their Lordships' great Wisdom shall seem just; and that Henry Drumlanrig Cuninghame Esquire, and the other postponed Creditors on the Estate of Lainshaw, may be required to answer the said Appeal:"
It is Ordered, That the said Henry Drumlanrig Cuninghame, and the said other postponed Creditors on the Estate of Lainshaw, may have a Copy of the said Appeal, and do put in their Answer or respective Answers thereunto in Writing, on or before Wednesday the 10th Day of August next; and that Service of this Order upon the said Respondents, or their known Agents or Counsel in the Court of Session in Scotland, shall be deemed good Service.
Chalmer to enter into Recognizance on said Appeal.
The House being moved, "That James Chalmer of Buckingham Street Gentleman, may be permitted to enter into a Recognizance for William Cuninghame Esquire, on Account of his Appeal depending in this House he residing in Scotland:"
It is Ordered, That the said James Chalmer may enter into a Recognizance for the said Appellant, as desired.
Ireland, Petition of Manufacturers of Nottingham against Resotions respecting, referred to Committee.
Upon reading the Petition of the Manufacturers of the Town and County of the Town of Nottingham, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; setting forth, That the Petitioners, with the greatest Humility and Respect, beg Leave to represent to their Lordships, that they firmly and seriously believe, that if a Commercial Treaty between Great Britain and Ireland shall be ratified upon the Terms proposed by the Resolutions of the House of Commons, it will prove a Source of great Detriment and Loss to the Trade and Manufactures of this Kingdom in general, and of this Town and Neighbourhood in particular: That the Petitioners also beg Leave to inform their Lordships that some Years ago, the Petitioners enjoyed and carried on a very considerable and lucrative Trade with Germany, Prussia, and several other Foreign Countries, but by the great Regard and Preserence which have of late Years been given to the Encouragement and Extension of the Irish Manufactories of Linen, and which have been protected by the heavy Impositions which have been laid upon German and other Foreign Linens, the Petitioners have nearly lost such Trade: Wherefore the Petitioners with great Concern observe, that though Linens may be bought much cheaper from other Countries, and also received in Exchange for the Labour, Produce, and Manufactures of this Country, from whence many great Commercial Advantages may be derived, the Petitioners, and this Kingdom in general, are deprived and cut off from all Expectation of a Return of that Trade, it being proposed in the said Resolutions, as a fixed and unalterable Condition, that the Importation of all Foreign Articles shall be so regulated, as may effectually prefer and secure the Importation of Irish Linens into this Country: That the Petioners also humbly represent to their Lordships, that great Quantities of Silk Stockings and various other Hosiery Articles, have for several Years been exported from this Country into the East Indies, and made a very considerable and beneficial Branch of the Trade and Commerce of this Town: That the Petitioners humbly apprehend, that if Ships going from Great Britain to any of the Countries beyond the Cape of Good Hope, shall, agreeable to the obvious and literal Construction and Meaning of the Ninth amended Proposition, be allowed to touch at any of the Ports in Ireland, and take on board there any of the Goods of the Growth, Produce, or Manufacture of that Kingdom, the Petitioners will be essentially and materially injured, and that from such Effects, and several of the Revenue Laws, acting as Bounties for Workmen to remove from this Kingdom to Ireland, the Petitioners have every probable Reason to believe that many Manufacturers will be induced to emigrate from hence, and the Trade and Manufactories of this Place thereby receive an irrecoverable and deadly Wound: That the Petitioners, from their Observations and Experience, humbly conceive that it is scarce possible for human Foresight to discover, or human Wisdom to obviate, the many weighty and important Difficulties which must result from an unalterable Establishment for Commercial Intercourse, and that nothing short of a firm and complete Union of the Two States can effectually produce and secure a mutual and lasting Unity of Interests in Commercial Concerns; and that if the Resolutions of the House of Commons should pass into a Law, against the general Sentiments of the Manufacturing Part of this Kingdom, and of those whose Knowledge and Experience of Trade furnish the best Means of judging of their Effects, there is great Reason to fear that the Consequences of such a System, will be highly prejudicial to their Trade and Commerce, and endanger the internal Peace, Prosperity, and Happiness of this Country; and therefore considing in their Lordships' Wisdom and Virtue, have ventured to offer their humble and ingenuous Sentiments to their Lordships, upon the very important and critical State of their Trade and Manufactures;" humbly beseeching their Lordships, "That the said Resolutions may not, during the present Session of Parliament, be passed into a Law:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Committee of the whole House appointed to consider the Irish Commercial Resolutions.
Salt Allowances Bill.
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act for reducing the Allowances for Waste on Salt, and Rock Salt; for regulating the Exportation of Salt to Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney, and Sark; for repealing the Laws allowing the Use of Foul Salt for Manure only; for allowing a Drawback on the Exportation of Glauber or Epsom Salts; for restraining Fish-curers from being Dealers in Salt; for regulating the Exportation of Herrings from the Isle of Man; for better securing the Duties on Salt; and for indemnifying Persons who have been guilty of Offences against the Laws relating to the Duties on Salt."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And the Lord Hawke reported from the Committee, That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
King's Bounty Bill.
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to authorize the Lord Steward of the Household, the Lord Chamberlain, the Master of the Horse, the Master of the Robes, and the Lords of the Treasury respectively; to pay Bounties granted by His Majesty to Persons in low and indigent Circumstances."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And the Lord Hawke reported from the Committee, That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Turpentine Bill.
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to amend so much of an Act passed in the Fourteenth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty, for the further and better Regulation of Buildings, and Party Walls, and for the more effectually preventing Mischiess by Fire, within the Cities of London and Westminster, and the Liberties thereof, and other the Places therein mentioned, as relates to Manufactories of Turpentine, for extending the Provisions of the said Act so amended to Manufactories of Pitch, Tar, and Turpentine throughout that Part of Great Britain called England, and for indemnifying the Proprietor of a Turpentine Manufactory in Potter's Fields in the Borough of Southwark, against the Penalties he may be liable to under the said Act; and for excepting for a limited Time his said Manufactory from the Provisions therein mentioned."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And the Lord Hawke reported from the Committee, That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Ireland, House in Committee on Resolutions of H. C. respecting.
The Order of the Day being read for the House to resolve itself again into a Committee upon the Resolutions come to by the Commons, relative to an Adjustment of the Commercial Intercourse between Great Britain and Ireland; and for the Lords to be summoned:
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee thereupon.
After some Time, the House was resumed.
Ordered, That the further Consideration of the said Irish Commercial Resolutions be adjourned till To-morrow; and the Lords summoned.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Jovis, decimum quartum diem instantis Julii, horâ undecimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.
DIE Jovis, 14o Julii 1785.
Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:
PRAYERS.
British Fisheries Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Beaufoy and others:
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for the further Encouragement of the British Fisheries;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
The said Bill was read the First Time.
Salt Allowances Bills:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for reducing the Allowances for Waste on Salt, and Rock Salt; for regulating the Exportation of Salt to Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney and Sark; for repealing the Laws allowing the Use of foul Salt for Manure only; for allowing a Drawback on the Exportation of Glauber or Epsom Salts; for restraining Fish-curers from being Dealers in Salt; for regulating the Exportation of Herrings from the Isle of Man; for better securing the Duties on Salt; and for indemnifying Persons who have been guilty of Offences against the Laws relating to the Duties on Salt."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Turpentine Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to amend so much of an Act passed in the Fourteenth Year of His present Majesty, for the further and better Regulation of Buildings and Party Walls; and for the more effectually preventing Mischiefs by Fire within the Cities of London and Westminster, and the Liberties thereof, and other the Places therein mentioned, as relates to Manufactories of Turpentine; for extending the Provisions of the said Act so amended to Manufactories of Pitch, Tar, and Turpentine throughout that Part of Great Britain called England, and for indemnifying the Proprietor of a Turpentine Manufactory in Potter's Fields, in the Borough of Southwark, against the Penalties he may be liable to under the said Act, and for excepting, for a limited Time, his said Manufactory from the Provisions therein contained."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
King's Bounty Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to authorize the Lord Steward of the Household, the Lord Chamberlain, the Master of the House, the Master of the Robes, and the Lords of the Treasury respectively, to pay Bounties granted by His Majesty to Persons in low and indigent Circumstances."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Messages to H. C. that the Lords have agreed to the Three preceding Bills.
And Messages were, severally, sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Holford and Mr. Eames:
To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the said Bills, without any Amendment.
Plate Duty Bill.
Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for altering and amending an Act made in the last Session of Parliament, intituled, "An Act for granting to His Majesty certain Duties on all Gold and Silver Plate imported, and also certain Duties on all Gold and Silver wrought Plate made in Great Britain."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill To-morrow.
Brewers' Allowance Bill.
Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to declare that Brewers selling Beer or Ale in less Quantities than a Cask containing Four Gallons and a Half, shall not be entitled to any Allowance out of the Duties of Excise for Waste or Leekage; and for making Allowances to Distillers of Low Wines and Spirits, from Malt, Corn, or Grain, in respect to the Duties imposed by an Act of the last Session of Parliament."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill To-morrow.
Bricks and Tiles Duty Bill.
Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to explain and amend an Act, made in the Twenty-fourth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty, intituled, "An Act for granting to His Majesty certain Rates and Duties upon Bricks and Tiles made in Great Britain, and for laying additional Duties on Bricks and Tiles imported into the same."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill To-morrow.
York Buildings Co. against Poolfinch et al:
Upon reading the Petition and Appeal of the Governor and Company of Undertakers, for raising the Thames Water in York Buildings; complaining of Two Interlocutors of the Lords of Session in Scotland, of the 5th of February and 25th of June 1783; also of Eight Interlocutors of the Lord Ordinary there, One of the 10th of February and One of the 12th of February, Three of the 29th of June, and Three of the 14th of July 1784; also of Three other Interlocutors of the said Lords of the 23d of November 1784; and also of another Interlocutor of the said Lords of the 30th of June 1785; and praying, "That the first and last Parts of the said Interlocutor of the 5th of February 1783, and the said other Interlocutors, may be reversed or varied, or that the Appellants may have such other Relief in the Premises as to this House, in their Lordships' great Wisdom, shall seem just; and that Doctor Robert Poolfinch, Francis Mitchel, Thomas Leighton, Charles Lehuile Esquire, John Russell, and John Russell Junior, may be required to answer the said Appeal:"
It is Ordered, That the said Doctor Robert Poolfinch, and the said several other Persons last named, may have a Copy of the said Appeal, and do put in their Answer or respective Answers thereunto in Writing, on or before Thursday the 11th Day of August next; and Service of this Order upon the said Respondents, or upon their known Counsel, Attornies, or Agents, in the Court of Session in Scotland, shall be deemed good Service.
Spottiswoode to enter into Recognizance on the York Buildings Company's Appeal.
The House being moved, "That John Spottiswoode of Sackville Street Gentleman, may be permitted to enter into a Recognizance for the Governor and Company of Undertakers, for raising the Thames Water in York Buildings, on Account of their Appeal depending in this House:"
It is Ordered, That the said John Spottiswoode may enter into a Recognizance for the said Appellants, as desired.
Ireland, Petition of Hosiers, &c. of Derby against Resolutions respecting, referred to Committee.
Upon reading the Petition of the Hosiers, Silk Throwsters, &c. of the Town of Derby, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; setting forth, "That the Petitioners understand that certain Regulations, whereby the Commercial Intercourse between Great Britain and Ireland, is to be finally regulated, are now under the Consideration of this House: The Petitioners beg Leave humbly to represent that their Business has of late very much declined, and they cannot but entertain the most serious Apprehensions, that should the said Resolutions in their present State pass into a Law, their Trade will suffer a still greater Diminution, as thereby the Irish Manufacturer will be enabled to supply the English and other Markets on lower Terms than the Petitioners: The Encouragement to smuggle will be encreased, the Machines and Implements of their Manufacture will be exported, and their Workmen emigrate to Foreign Countries, to the great Detriment and Loss of the Petitioners, and to the Diminution of the Strength and Revenue of the Kingdom;" and therefore praying, "That more Time may be allowed for the Discussion of this momentous Subject, which is to be final and irrevocable, and in which the Interests of the Petitioners are so deeply concerned, and that such Relief may be granted as to this House shall seem meet:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Committee of the whole House appointed to consider the Irish Commercial Resolutions.
Iron Tools Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Gilbert and others:
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to prohibit the Exportation to Foreign Parts of Tools and Utensils made Use of in the Iron and Steel Manufactures of this Kingdom, and to prevent the seducing of Artificers or Workmen employed in those Manufactures to go into Parts beyond the Seas;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Linen, &c. Duty Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Gilbert and others:
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for repealing the Duties on Linens to be printed, painted, stained, or dyed, in Great Britain, imposed by an Act made in the last Session of Parliament, and for granting other Duties in Lieu thereof, and on Cotton Stuffs, Muslins, Fustians, Velvets, and Velverets, wove in Great Britain, to be printed, stained, painted, or dyed, and upon the Importation of Linens, Cotton Stuffs, Muslins, Fustians, Velvets, and Velverets, printed, stained, painted, or dyed, in Foreign Parts;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
The said Two Bills were, severally, read the First Time.
Ireland, House in Committee on Resolutions of H. C. respecting:
The Order of the Day being read for the House to resolve itself again into a Committee upon the Resolutions come to by the Commons, relative to an Adjustment of the Commercial Intercourse between Great Britain and Ireland; and for the Lords to be summoned:
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee thereupon.
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And the Lord Hawke reported from the Committee, That they had gone through the several Resolutions referred to the said Committee, and had made several Amendments thereto, which he was ready to report when the House will please to receive the same."
Ordered, That the said Report be received Tomorrow; and the Lords summoned.
Soap Makers of Warrington Petition against said Resolutions.
Upon reading the Petition of the Makers of Soap and Candles and other Manufacturers in the Town of Warrington, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; setting forth, "That the Petitioners being informed that certain Resolutions for the final Adjustment of a Commercial Treaty between Great Britain and Ireland are now under the Consideration of this House, beg Leave humbly to represent, That the said Resolutions, if carried into Laws as they now stand, will be highly prejudicial to the Interests of the Petitioners, and the respective Manufactures in which they are concerned, and on which they must depend for the Welfare and Support of themselves, their Families, and Dependants: That the Petitioners cannot with Safety enter into a Competition in Manufactures with a Nation who are unburthened with a Weight of Taxes, under which the Petitioners find it difficult to continue their respective Manufactures, and more especially too in those Manufactures the raw Materials of which pay a heavy Duty on their Importation into this Country, and are imported Duty free into the other, and where the Manufacturers are likewise subject to heavy and vexatious Excise Duties, from which those of the other Country are likewise entirely exempted: The Petitioners might be justly alarmed at the Proposal of making a final Adjustment even on the most mature Consideration, upon so fluctuating a Subject as Trade and Manufactures, and between Nations so unequally circumstanced, even and much more so when they have scarcely had Time even to read what may be deemed the Preliminary Articles of such a Treaty, and when they find those Articles (so far as they have hitherto had an Opportunity or Time of considering them) to be almost wholly in favour of one of the Contracting Parties, and to be void of that fair Reciprocity of Advantages which is held forth to be the Basis of them;" and therefore praying, "That further Time may be given for the Consideration of a Subject of such great Importance to themselves, their Families, and their Connections, as well as to the Community at large; and that the Resolutions may not pass into Laws as they now are; or that the Petitioners may have such further Relief in the Premises as to this House shall seem meet:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Veneris, decimum quintum diem instantis Julii, horâ undecimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.
DIE Veneris, 15o Julii 1785.
Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:
PRAYERS.
Ireland, Report from Committee on Resolutions of H. C. respecting:
The Order of the Day being read for receiving the Report of the Amendments made by the Committee of the whole House appointed to take into Consideration the several Resolutions come to by the Commons relating to the Adjustment of the Commercial Intercourse between Great Britain and Ireland, together with a printed Copy of the Minutes of the Evidence taken before the Committee of the House of Commons upon which they passed the said Resolutions:
The Lord Hawke reported from the said Committee, That the Committee had met, and considered the Matter to them referred, and had heard Counsel and examined Witnesses upon the Petitions of several Manufacturers and others, also referred to the said Committee, and had gone through the said Resolutions, and had made several Amendments thereto."
Resolutions as amended to be printed:
Ordered, That the said Resolutions, as amended, be printed.
Report to be considered.
Ordered, That the said Report be taken into Consideration on Monday next; and the Lords summoned.
British Fisheries Bill.
Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for the further Encouragement of the British Fisheries."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill on Monday next.
Iron Tools Bill.
Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to prohibit the Exportation to Foreign Parts of Tools and Utensils made Use of in the Iron and Steel Manufactures of this Kingdom, and to prevent the seducing of Artificers or Workmen employed in those Manufactures to go into Parts beyond the Seas."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill on Monday next.
Linen, &c. Duty Bill.
Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for repealing the Duties on Linens to be printed, painted, stained or dyed in Great Britain, imposed by an Act made in the last Session of Parliament, and for granting other Duties in Lieu thereof, and on Cotton Stuffs, Muslins, Fustians, Velvets and Velverets, wove in Great Britain, to be printed, stained, painted or dyed, and upon the Importation of Linens, Cottons, Stuffs, Muslins, Fustians, Velvets and Velverets, printed, stained, painted or dyed in Foreign Parts."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill on Monday next.
Flasks Duty Repeal, &c. Bill.
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to repeal the Duties upon Flasks in which Florence Wine and Oil is imported; to permit the Importation of Wines in small Casks for private Use; to revive, continue, and amend so much of an Act made in the Sixteenth Year of His present Majesty as allows the Exportation of certain Quantities of Wheat and other Articles to His Majesty's Sugar Colonies in America; for disallowing the Drawback on the Exportation of Snuff; for continuing the Permission to land Rum or Spirits of the British Sugar Plantations before Payment of the Duties of Excise; for reviving and continuing the Premiums upon the Importation of Pitch, Tar, and Turpentine from East Florida into Great Britain; for allowing a Bounty upon the Exportation of Silk Gauzes and a Drawback upon the Exportation of Raw Silk."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And the Lord Hawke reported from the Committee, That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Plate Duty Bill.
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act for altering and amending an Act made in the last Session of Parliament, intituled, An Act for granting to His Majesty certain Duties on all Gold and Silver Plate imported, and also certain Duties on all Gold and Silver wrought Plate made in Great Britain."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And the Lord Hawke reported from the Committee, That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Bricks and Tiles Duty Bill.
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to explain and amend an Act made in the Twenty-fourth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty, intituled, "An Act for granting to His Majesty certain Rates and Duties upon Bricks and Tiles made in Great Britain, and for laying additional Duties on Bricks and Tiles imported into the same."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And the Lord Hawke reported from the Committee, That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Brewers' Allowance Bill.
The Order of the Day being read for the House to be put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to declare that Brewers selling Beer or Ale in less Quantities than a Cask, containing Four Gallons and a Half, shall not be entitled to any Allowance out of the Duties of Excise for Waste or Leakage; and for making Allowances to Distillers of Low Wines and Spirits from Malt Corn or Grain, in respect to the Duties imposed by an Act of the last Session of Parliament:"
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill on Tuesday next.
Pegge against Bristowe:
Upon reading the Petition of Richard Bristowe, Defendant in a Writ of Error depending in this House, wherein Peter Pegge Esquire is Plaintiff; setting forth, That the Plaintiff has not assigned Errors within the Time limited by their Lordships' Standing Order;" and therefore praying, "That the said Writ of Error may be Non-pros'd, with such Costs as to their Lordships shall seem meet:"
Writ of Error Non-pros'd with Costs.
It is Ordered, That the Petitioner do forthwith enter a Non-pros on the said Writ of Error as desired; and that the Record be remitted to the Court of King's Bench, to the end Execution may be had upon the Judgement given by that Court, as if no such Writ of Error had been brought into this House: And further, That the Plaintiff in Error do pay or cause to be paid to the Defendant in Error, the Sum of Forty Pounds for his Costs, by reason of the Delay of the Execution of the said Judgement.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Lunæ, decimum octavum diem instantis Julii, horâ undecimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.
DIE Lunæ, 18o Julii 1785.
Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:
PRAYERS.
Ireland, Petition of Glass Makers of Warrington against Resolutions respecting.
Upon reading the Petition of the Company of Bottle and Flint Glass Makers at Warrington, in the County of Lancaster; setting forth, "That through the assiduous Attention and unremitting Industry of the Petitioners, and others, for many Years, the Glass Manufacture of this Kingdom hath become an Object of great national Consequence, both as an Article of Commerce and as a Subject of Taxation, affording Employment and Sustenance to Numbers of People, and producing a very considerable Revenue to the Government: That the Modes prescribed by the Excise Laws for ascertaining and charging the Duties on this Manufacture, and the Restraints (perhaps necessarily) concomitant to guard against Fraud are such, that the Petitioners are loaded with a Burthen enormously greater than the nominal Duties imposed, are restrained from bringing their Metal to Perfection, and necessitated to work up a considerable Part (paid for as pure) into Articles of inferior Price: That in Addition to these Hardships and Exactions, the Petitioners (as their Lordships well know) labour under the Weight of very heavy Taxes, on not the Luxuries only, but almost every Necessary of Life: That in the Kingdom of Ireland there are no such Burthens, Exactions, or Restraints; and Materials for the Glass Manufacture may be provided as cheap, and Workmanship and Labour much cheaper than in this Kingdom; the Consequence of all which, the Petitioners beg Leave to represent to their Lordships, must be, that the Irish Manufacturer will be enabled to undersell the Petitioners both at Home and Abroad; and they will be compelled either to shut up their Houses and retire from Business, or to ruin themselves by a vain and unequal Competition, unless in settling the Trade and Intercourse between this Kingdom and that, effectual Care be taken that the Produce and Manufactures of Ireland shall be subjected to the like internal Duties and operative Restraints with those imposed on the Produce and Manufactures of Great Britain (which the Petitioners humbly conceive will be found utterly impracticable), or that the Legislature of this Kingdom (sinking as she is under the Pressure of an accumulating Debt) shall think fit wholly to repeal the Duties and Restraints on the Petitioners, and the Excise Laws imposing the same;" and therefore praying, "Their Lordships to take the Hardships of their Case into their Consideration, and that in settling the Trade and Intercourse between Great Britain and Ireland, their Lordships will afford them such Protection and Relief as in their Wisdom shall be found consistent with the Existence and Prosperity of this Kingdom, and the general Interest of the British Empire:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Insolvent Debtors Bill, Petition respecting.
Upon reading the Petition of the unfortunate Debtors in Newgate, being in Number 179, whose Names are thereunto subscribed, taking Notice of a Bill depending in this House, intituled, "An Act for the Relief of Insolvent Debtors, and for the Relief of Bankrupts in certain Cases;" and praying their Lordships, for the Reasons therein mentioned, "To take their distressed Case into their benevolent and humane Consideration, by taking up the said Bill, now laying before their Lordships, and proceeding thereupon, so as the same may pass into a Law this Session:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
City Compters Bill.
The Lord Hawke reported from the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act to enable the Mayor and Commonalty and Citizens of the City London to pull down the Poultry and Woodstreet Compters, and to purchase certain Ground and Buildings within the said City for the Purpose of rebuilding the same," was committed: "That they had considered the said Bill, and examined the Allegations thereof, which were found to be true; and that the Committee had gone through the Bill, and made some Amendments thereto."
Which Amendments were read by the Clerk, as follow; (videlicet)
Pr. 1. L. 19. After ("kept") insert ("And whereas the greater Part of the said Prison called Wood Street Compter, and several of the Offices thereto belonging, or used therewith, and the Scite thereof are held by the said Mayor, Commonalty, and Citizens of London, of the Dean and Chapter of the Cathedral Church of Saint Paul in London, by Virtue of and under a Lease granted by them to the said Mayor, Commonalty, and Citizens, bearing Date the Nineteenth Day of November One Thousand seven hundred and seventy-seven, for the Term of Forty Years, which commenced at Michaelmas Day immediately preceding the Date of the said Lease, and under a Covenant therein contained on the Part of the said Mayor, Commonalty, and Citizens and their Successors, for upholding the said Leasehold Premises, and leaving the same in tenantable Repair at the Expiration of the said Term, or other sooner Determination of the said Lease")
Pr. 21. L. 30. Leave out ("to")
Pr. 23. L. 8. After ("Principal") insert ("Money")
L. 15. After ("Principal") insert ("Money")
Pr. 25. L. 14. Leave out ("Jury") and insert ("Juror"), and in the same Line leave out ("Juries") and insert ("Jurors")
Pr. 26. L. 9. After ("whereas") insert ("by")
Pr. 29. L. 37. After ("Act") insert Clause ("A.")
Clause (A.) "Provided always, and it is hereby further enacted and declared, That in case the said Mayor, Aldermen, and Commons of the City of London shall pull down, or cause to be pulled down the said Gaol or Prison called Wood Street Compter, and shall not erect and build, or cause to be erected and built a new Gaol or Compter on the Scite and Spot of Ground whereon the same now stands, that then and in such Case the said Mayor, Commonalty, and Citizens of London shall and will, within Two Years next after the said Compter shall be so pulled down, at their own Expence, Costs, and Charges, erect and build, or cause to be erected and built, on the Ground and Soil whereon such Part of the said Gaol or Prison called Wood Street Compter, and Offices so belonging to the said Dean and Chapter, and which shall be taken down as aforesaid, now stand, One or more good and substantial Messuage or Messuages of Brick or Stone, and completely finish the same in a Workman-like Manner, so as to make the same fit for Habitation, and which, when finished, shall not be of less annual Value than the Buildings so held of the said Dean and Chapter, and which shall be taken down as aforesaid, were estimated at or deemed to be worth at the Time of granting the said Lease thereof, by the said Dean and Chapter as aforesaid, and which said Messuages or Dwelling Houses, when built, shall be subject to such and the like Covenants on the Part of the said Mayor, Commonalty, and Citizens for repairing and upholding the same, as are contained in the said Lease of and concerning the said Premises so intended to be pulled or taken down as aforesaid; any Thing herein contained to the contrary in any wife notwithstanding."
And the said Amendments, being read a Second Time, were agreed to by the House.
Plate Duty Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for altering and amending an Act made in the last Session of Parliament, intituled, An Act for granting to His Majesty certain Duties on all Gold and Silver Plate imported, and also certain Duties on all Gold and Silver wrought Plate made in Great Britain".
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Bricks and Tiles Duty Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to explain and amend an Act made in the Twenty-fourth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty, intituled, An Act for granting to His Majesty certain Rates and Duties upon Bricks and Tiles made in Great Britain; and for laying additional Duties on Bricks and Tiles imported into the same."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Flasks Duty Repeal, &c. Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, " An Act to repeal the Duties upon Flasks in which Florence Wine and Oil is imported; to permit the Importation of Wines in small Casks for private Use; to revive, continue, and amend so much of an Act made in the Sixteenth Year of His present Majesty as allows the Ex portation of certain Quantities of Wheat and other Articles to His Majesty's Sugar Colonies in America; for disallowing the Drawback on the Exportation of Snuff; for continuing the Permission to land Rum or Spirits of the British Sugar Plantations before Payment of the Duties of Excise; for reviving and continuing the Premiums upon the Importation of Pitch, Tar, and Turpentine from East Florida into Great Britain; for allowing a Bounty upon the Exportation of Silk Gauzes, and a Drawback upon the Exportation of Raw Silk."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Messages to H. C. that the Lords have agreed to the Three preceding Bills.
And Messages were, severally, sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Anguish and Mr. Montagu:
To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the said Bills, without any Amendment.
Debtors'Bill
Ordered, That the Committee of the whole House, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for preventing unnecessary Imprisonment of Debtors on Mesne Process, and for the more effectual Recovery of Debts by obliging Debtors to make a Discovery of, and deliver up their Estates and Effects, for the Benefit of their Creditors, and for the Relief of Insolvent, and Punishment of Fraudulent Debtors," stands committed, be revived and meet on Thursday next.
Insolvent Debtors' Bill.
Ordered, That the Bill, intituled, "An Act for the Relief of Insolvent Debtors, and for the Relief of Bankrupts in certain Cases," be read a Second Time on Thursday next.
British Fisheries Bill.
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act for the further Encouragement of the British Fisheries."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And the Lord Hawke reported from the Committee, "That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Iron Tools Bill.
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to prohibit the Exportation to foreign Parts of Tools and Utensils made Use of in the Iron and Steel Manufactures of this Kingdom; and to prevent the Seducing of Artificers or Workmen employed in those Manufactures, to go into Parts beyond the Seas."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And the Lord Hawke reported from the Committee, That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Linen, &c. Duty Bill.
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act for repealing the Duties on Linens to be printed, painted, stained, or dyed in Great Britain, imposed by an Act made in the last Session of Parliament, and for granting other Duties in Lieu thereof, and on Cotton Stuffs, Muslins, Fustians, Velvets, and Velverets, wove in Great Britain to be printed, stained, painted, or dyed, and upon the Importation of Linens, Cotton Stuffs, Muslins, Fustians, Velvets, and Velverets, printed, stained, painted, or dyed in foreign Parts."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And the Lord Hawke reported from the Committee, That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Oxley and Hancock against Learmouth and Lindsay:
Upon reading the Petition of Alexander Learmouth and James Lindsay Defendants in a Writ of Error depending in this House, wherein John Oxley and Joseph Hancock are Plaintiffs; setting forth, "That the Plaintiffs have not assigned Errors within the Time limited by their Lordships' standing Order;" and therefore praying, "That the said Writ of Error may be Non-pros'd, withsuch Costs as to their Lordships shall seem meet:"
Writ of Error Non-pros'd with Costs.
It is Ordered, That the Petitioners do forthwith enter a Non-pros on the said Writ of Error, as desired; and that the Record be remitted to the Court of King's Bench, to the end Execution may be had upon the Judgement given by that Court, as if no such Writ of Error had been brought into this House; and further, That the Plaintiffs in Error do pay, or cause to be paid, to the Defendants in Error, the Sum of Forty Pounds for their Costs by reason of the Delay of the Execution of the said Judgement.
Ireland, report from Committee on Resolutions of H. C. respecting, considered.
The Order of the Day being read, for taking into Consideration the Report of the Committee of the whole House appointed to consider the Resolutions come to by the House of Commons, relative to an Adjustment of the Commercial Intercourse, between Great Britain and Ireland; and for the Lords to be summoned:
The First Resolution was read by the Clerk.
The Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in this Resolution?"
Which being objected to;
Motion to postpone First Resolution, negatived:
It was moved, "To postpone the further Consideration of this Question for Four Months."
After long Debate,
The Question was put upon the said Motion?
It was resolved in the Negative.
DISSENTIENT.
Protest thereupon:
Because, We conceive the Plan contained in the Report, as well from the Manner in which it has been introduced and conducted, as from the Matter which it contains, to be likely to create and promote Jealousy and Dissatisfaction between the Two Kingdoms.
Derby.
Wentworth Fitzwilliam.
Plymouth.
Northington.
Scarbrough.
Keppel."
First Resolution agreed to.
Then it was moved, "To agree to the said Resolution."
The same was agreed to, and ordered accordingly.
Other Resolutions agreed to with Amendments:
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Second Resolution."
And the said Resolution being read by the Clerk:
The following Amendment was proposed to be made to the said Resolution, by leaving out the Words ("It is consistent with the essential Interests of the Manufactures, Revenue, Commerce, and Navigation of Great Britain: That")
Which being objected to;
The Question was put, "Whether the Words proposed to be left out, shall stand Part of the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was proposed to leave out the Word ("full")
Which being objected to;
The Question was put, "Whether the Word ("full") shall stand Part of the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was proposed to leave out the Words ("whenever a Provision equally permanent and secure shall be made by") and instead thereof to insert the Words ("and that")
Which being objected to;
The Question was put, "Whether the Words proposed to be left out shall stand Part of the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was proposed after the Words ("Expences in") to leave out the Words ("Time of")
Which being objected to;
The Question was put, "Whether the Words proposed to be left out shall stand Part of the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was proposed after the Word ("Peace") to insert ("and in Time of War")
Which being objected to;
The Question was put, "Whether the said Words shall be inserted in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Negative.
Then Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said second Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Third Resolution."
The said Resolution was read by the Clerk.
Then the following Amendment, made thereto, was also read by the Clerk:
After the Words ("drawn back,") insert the Words ("within a Time to be limited")
The Question was put, "Whether to agree to the said Amendment?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution so amended?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Fourth Resolution."
And the said Resolution being read by the Clerk:
The Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Fifth Resolution."
And the said Resolution being read by the Clerk:
The following Amendment was proposed to be made to the said Resolution, by inserting after the Word ("Africa") the Words ("and all Foreign European Spirits, Arrack, and strong Waters")
Which being objected to;
The Question was put, "Whether the said Words shall be inserted in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Negative.
Then the Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Sixth Resolution."
The said Resolution was read by the Clerk.
Then the following Amendments made thereto were read by the Clerk:
After ("Instruments") leave out ("to which") and insert ("as")
After ("like Goods") leave out ("are now subject in")
And the said Amendments, being read a Second Time, were disagreed to by the House.
The Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Seventh Resolution."
And the said Resolution being read by the Clerk:
The Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Eighth Resolution."
And the said Resolution being read by the Clerk:
The following Amendment was proposed to be made to the said Resolution, by inserting after the Words ("or in America") the Words ("or to the States of America")
Which being objected to;
The Question was put, "Whether the said Words shall be inserted in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Negative.
Then the Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Ninth Resolution."
And the said Resolution being read by the Clerk:
The following Amendment was proposed to be made to the said Resolution, by inserting after the Words ("that Kingdom") the Words ("except the Article of Sail Canvas")
Which being objected to;
The Question was put, "Whether the said Words shall be inserted in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Negative.
Then it was proposed, at the End of the said Resolution, to insert the Words ("subject to the same Duties and Regulations as the like Goods are, or from Time to Time shall be subject to upon Importation into Great Britain, or if prohibited to be imported into Great Britain, shall be prohibited in like Manner from being imported into Ireland
Which being objected to;
The Question was put, "Whether the said Words shall be inserted at the End of the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Negative.
Then the following Amendment was proposed to be made by the House to the said Resolution, by leaving out after the Words ("from the") to the End of the said Resolution, and inserting instead thereof, the Words ("British or Foreign Settlements in the East Indies, subject to the same Duties and Regulations as the like Goods from Time to Time shall be subject to on Importation into Great Britain, and if prohibited to be imported into Great Britain, should in like Manner be prohibited from being imported into Ireland")
The Question was put, "Whether the Words proposed to be left out, shall stand Part of the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Negative.
Then the Question was put, "Whether the Words proposed shall be inserted instead thereof?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Tenth Resolution."
And the said Resolution being read by the Clerk:
The following Amendment was proposed to be made to the said Resolution, by inserting after the Words ("Manufacture of the other") the Words ("except the Importation of Salt from Ireland to Great Britain")
Which being objected to;
The Question was put, "Whether the said Words shall be inserted in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Negative.
Then the Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Eleventh Resolution."
The said Resolution was read by the Clerk:
Then the following Amendments made thereto were read by the Clerk:
After the Words ("the Amount") insert the Words ("which was"), and in the same Line, after the Words ("payable in the other") insert the Words ("on the 17th Day of May 1782"), and in Lines 9 and 10, leave out the Words ("the same shall not be less than 10½ per Centum") and in Line 13, after the Figures ("1782") insert the Words ("the same Amount shall not be less than such Duty of 10½ of per Centum"), and at the End of the said Resolution insert the following Words, ("Provided always, that when any such Articles shall be liable in either Country to any Duty on being exported to any Foreign Country, the same Articles when re-exported from either of the said Kingdoms into which they shall have been so imported as aforesaid, shall pay the like Duties as if they had been originally exported from the Kingdom of their Growth, Produce, or Manufacture, to such Foreign Country")
The Question was put, "Whether to agree to the said Amendments?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution, so amended?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved to resolve, "That it is expedient that no un-printed Cotton Goods, whether of plain Cotton, or made of Cotton mixed with Thread or Worsted, of whatever Description, Quality, or Size, shall be charged with a higher Duty than Ten per Cent. upon the Value, on Importation from Great Britain into Ireland or from Ireland into Great Britain."
The Question was put, "Whether to agree to the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Negative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Twelfth Resolution."
The said Resolution was read by the Clerk.
Then the following Amendments made thereto were read by the Clerk:
After the Word ("Manufacture") leave out to the Words ("such further Duty") in Lines 11 and 12, and after the Word ("imposed") in Line 15, insert the following Words, ("so that the countervailing Duty to be paid upon manufactured Salt imported into any Part of Great Britain, shall be computed upon the internal Duty payable thereon in England") and in Line 18, after the Words ("in either Kingdom") leave out to the Words ("such Manufacture") in Lines 20 and 21, and in Line 22 after the Words ("into the") Leave out the Word ("other") and insert ("said,") and in the same Line after ("Kingdom") insert the Words ("from the other") and after the Words ("subject the same") in Line 24, Leave out the Words ("so imported") and after the Words ("those which") in Line 26, Leave out the Word ("the") and insert the Word ("such") and in the same Line after the Word ("Manufacture") Leave out the Words ("composed of the like Raw Materials") and after the Words ("Consequence of") in Line 28, insert the Word ("such") and in the same Line after the Words ("on such") insert the Word ("Raw") and after the Words ("is so") in Line 30, insert the Words ("to be")
The Question was put, "Whether to agree to the said Amendments?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the following Amendment was proposed to be made by the House to the said Resolution, by inserting after the Word ("Manufacture") the Words ("and that where a Duty is payable in either Kingdom, on any Article carried Coastwise from one Port to another of the said Kingdom, the same Article when imported from the other Kingdom should be subject to the like Duty")
The Question was put, "Whether to agree to the said Amendments?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the Question was put, "Whether to agree to the said Resolution so amended?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Thirteenth Resolution."
And the said Resolution being read by the Clerk:
The following Amendment was proposed to be made to the said Resolution, by inserting after the Words ("no new or additional Duties") the Words ("exceeding Ten and a Half per Centum on the Value, exclusive of the Countervailing Duty, as described in the foregoing Resolution")
Which being objected to;
The Question was put, "Whether the said Words shall be inserted in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Negative.
Then the Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Fourteenth Resolution."
And the said Resolution being read by the Clerk:
The following Amendment was proposed to be made to the said Resolution, by leaving out after the Word ("Flour") the Word ("and")
Which being objected to;
The Question was put, "Whether the Word proposed to be left out shall stand Part of the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Negative.
Then it was proposed after the Word ("Biscuits") to insert the Words ("and upon Oak Bark")
Which being objected to;
The Question was put, "Whether the said Words shall be inserted in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Negative.
Then it was proposed after the Word ("Biscuits") to insert the Words ("and upon Rock Salt")
The Question was put, "Whether the said Words shall be inserted in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Negative.
Then the following Amendment, made thereto, was read by the Clerk:
At the End of the Resolution insert the following Words, ("Provided that when any Article of the Growth, Produce, or Manufacture, of either Kingdom, shall be prohibited by the Laws of the said Kingdom to be exported to Foreign Countries, the same Article when exported to the other Kingdom shall be prohibited to be re-exported from thence to any foreign Countries")
The Question was put, "Whether to agree to the said Amendment?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the following Amendment was proposed to be made by the House to the said Resolution, by inserting at the End thereof the following Words, ("except also Oak Bark, such Exception to continue so long only as the Duty upon the Exportation of Raw Hides and Calves Skins from Ireland to Great Britain shall continue")
Which being objected to;
The Question was put, "Whether the said Words shall be inserted?"
It was resolved in the Negative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Fifteenth Resolution."
And the said Resolution being read by the Clerk:
The following Amendment was proposed to be made to the said Resolution, by leaving out from the Words ("payable in Ireland on the Exportation of any Article") to the Words ("or any Manufacture")
The Question was put, "Whether the Words proposed to be left out, shall stand Part of the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was proposed to resolve, "That it is just and reasonable that the Parliament of Ireland should give a Bounty upon the Exportation of all British Linens, equal to and to continue so long as the Bounty given by Great Britain on the Exportation of Irish Linens shall continue."
Which being objected to;
The Question was put, "Whether to resolve thereupon?"
It was resolved in the Negative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Sixteenth Resolution."
And the said Resolution being read by the Clerk:
The Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Seventeenth Resolution."
The said Resolution was read by the Clerk.
Then the following Amendments made thereto were also read by the Clerk:
After the Words ("vending Books") insert the Words ("Engraving, Prints, Maps, Charts, and Plans,") and after the Words ("otherwise and") in Line 5, insert the Word ("that") and after the Word ("Booksellers") in Line 6, insert the Words ("the Engraved Property of Engravers, Print, and Mapsellers,") and in Line 13, leave out the Words ("similar Privileges and Rights in") and instead thereof insert the Words ("Copy Rights of Authors and Booksellers, and to the Engraved Property of the Engravers, Print, and Mapsellers of")
The Question was put, "Whether to agree to the said Amendments?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution, so amended?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Eighteenth Resolution."
The said Resolution was read by the Clerk.
Then the following Amendments made thereto were also read by the Clerk:
After the Words ("it is expedient that") insert the following Words, ("such exclusive Rights and Privileges arising from new Inventions, as are now legally possessed within Great Britain, under Letters Patent from the Crown, shall continue to be protected in the Manner they are at present by the Laws of Great Britain, and that it is just that Measures should be taken by the Parliament of Ireland, for giving the like Protection to similar Rights and Privileges in that Kingdom, and also that it is expendient that") and after the Words ("respect to") in Line 2, Leave out the Words ("Patents to be") and instead thereof insert the Words ("Letters Patent"), and after the Word ("hereafter") in Line 3, insert the Words ("to be") and after the Word ("granted") in the same Line, leave out the Word ("for") and insert ("in") and in the same Line after ("the") leave out the Word ("Encouragement") and insert ("Case") and after the Word ("throughout") in Line 7, leave out the Words ("Great Britain and Ireland") and insert ("both Kingdoms")
The Question was put, "Whether to agree to the said Amendments?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution, so amended?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Nineteenth Resolution."
And the said Resolution being read by the Clerk:
The Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then it was moved, "To agree with the Committee in the Twentieth Resolution."
And the said Resolution being read by the Clerk:
The Question was put, "Whether to agree with the Committee in the said Resolution?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Concurrence in said Resolutions to be communicated to H. C.
Ordered, That the Concurrence of this House to the said Resolutions, together with the several Amendments made thereto by this House, and also a printed Copy of the Evidence taken before a Committee of this House, being a Committee of the whole House, to whom it was referred to consider of the said Resolutions, be communicated to the Commons at a Conference; and that the several Papers communicated by the Commons, be returned to them.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Martis, decimum nonum diem instantis Julii, horâ undecimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.
DIE Martis, 19o Julii 1785.
Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:
PRAYERS.
Polls and Scrutinies Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Steele and others:
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to limit the Duration of Polls and Scrutinies, and for making other Regulations touching the Election of Members to serve in Parliament for Places within England and Walves, and for Berwick upon Tweed, and also for removing Difficulties which may arise, for Want of Returns being made of Members to serve in Parliament;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
The said Bill was read the First Time.
Ordered, That the said Bill be printed.
Insolvent Debtors Bill, Petitions respecting.
Upon reading the Petition of the Citizens of London, confined for Debt in the City Prison of Ludgate, whose Names are thereunto subscribed, taking Notice of a Bill depending in this House, intituled, "An Act for the Relief of Insolvent Debtors, and for the Relief of Bankrupts in certain Cases;" and praying, for the Reasons therein mentioned, "That should the Petitioners be so happy as to experience such Benevolence extended to them, will ever retain the most grateful sense of their Lordships unbounded Goodness:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Upon reading the Petition of the unfortunate Debtors consined in the King's Bench Prison, whose Names are thereunto subscribed, taking Notice of the last mentioned Bill, and praying for the Reasons therein mentioned, That their Lordships would be pleased to extend their gracious Benevolence to them, by causing the Bill now pending for the Relief of Insolvent Debtors, to be brought forward as soon as possible, in order that their Lordships' unfortunate Petitioners may be restored to the Blessings of Freedom and Society, and relieved from the Horrors of impending Famine."
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Upon reading the Petition of the Consined Debtors in His Majesty's Prison of the Fleet, on Behalf of themselves and several Thousands in other Prisons throughout England, whose Names are thereunto subscribed, taking Notice of the last mentioned Bill; and praying, for the Reasons therein mentioned, "That their Lordships will be pleased to order one or both of the Bills now pending to be proceeded on, that the Petitioners, together with their Wives and numerous Children, may once more enjoy the Fruits of their Industry."
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
British Fisheries Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for the further Encouragement of the British Fisheries."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Iron Took Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to prohibit the Exportation to Foreign Parts of Tools and Utensils made Use of in the Iron and Steel Manufactures of this Kingdom, and to prevent the seducing of Artificers or Workmen employed in those Manufactures, to go into Parts beyond the Seas."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Linen, &c. Duty Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for repealing the Duties on Linens to be printed, painted, stained, or dyed in Great Britain, imposed by an Act made in the last Session of Parliament, and for granting other Duties in Lieu thereof, and on Cotton Stuffs, Muslins, Fustians, Velvets, and Velverets wove in Great Britain to be printed, stained, painted, or dyed, and upon the Importation of Linens, Cotton Stuffs, Muslins, Fustians, Velvets, and Velverets, printed, stained, painted, or dyed in Foreign Parts."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H. C. that the Lords have agreed to the Three preceding Bills.
And Messages were, severally, sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Anguish and Mr. Montagu:
To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the said Bills, without any Amendment.
City Compters Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to enable the Mayor and Commonalty and Citizens of the City of London, to pull down the Poultry and Wood Street Compters, and to purchase certain Ground and Buildings within the said City for the Purpose of rebuilding the same."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill, with the Amendments, shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H. C. with Amendments to it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by the former Messengers:
To return the said Bill, and acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the same with some Amendments, to which their Lordships desire their Concurrence.
Commissioners of Accounts Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Gilbert and others:
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for appointing and enabling Commissioners further to examine, take, and state the public Accounts of the Kingdom;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
The said Bill was read the First Time.
Ireland, Accounts of Articles charged with internal Duty, delivered.
The Lord Sydney (by His Majesty's Command) laid before the House, "Accounts of all Articles of Irish Consumption charged in Ireland with an internal Duty on the Manufacture, or a Duty on the Material, stating and distinguishing the several Duties, pursuant to an Address of the 7th of June last;" together with a List thereof.
Which was read by the Clerk, as follows; (videlicet)
No. 1. "Copy of a Letter from His Grace the Duke of Rutland, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, to Lord Sydney, dated Dublin Castle, 13th July 1785, enclosing,
2. "An Account of all Articles of Irish Consumption charged in Ireland with a Duty on the Material at Importation, and stating and distinguishing the Duty of the imported Material."
3. "An Account of all Articles of Irish Consumption charged in Ireland with an internal Duty on the Manufacture or Material, stating the several Duties so far as they come under the Inspection of Examiner of Excise."
4. "An Account of all Articles of Irish Consumption charged in Ireland with an internal Duty on the Manufacture or Material, stating the several Duties so far as they come under the Inspection of the Stamp Master of Cards and Dice in the Port of Dublin."
5. "An Account of the internal Duty charged in Ireland on the Manufacture of wrought Plate."
Ordered, That the said Accounts do lie on the Table.
Blackfriars Bridge Bill.
Ordered, That the Bill, intituled, "An Act for laying a Toll upon all Horses and Carriages passing on a Sunday through any Turnpike at or near the Circus in Saint George's Fields in the County of Surrey, towards encreasing the Fund for watching, lighting, cleansing, watering, and repairing Blackfriars Bridge," be read a Second Time on Friday next, and that Counsel be then heard in Support of the said Bill.
Message to H. C. for a Conference on Resolutions respecting Ireland:
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Anguish and Mr. Montagu:
To desire a present Conference with that House in the Painted Chamber, upon the Subject Matter of the Conference on the 31st of May last.
Managers appointed:
Ordered, That the Managers of the last Conference be the Managers of this.
The Messengers sent to the House of Commons, to desire a Conference this Day with that House, acquainted the House, That the Commons do agree to a Conference with their Lordships, as desired.
The House being informed, "That the Managers for the Commons were ready for the Conference in the Painted Chamber:"
The Names of the Managers for the Lords were called over.
And the House was adjourned during Pleasure; and the Lords went to the Conference.
Which being ended, the House was resumed:
Conference reported.
And the Lord Steward reported, "That the Managers for the Lords had met the Managers for the Commons at the Conference, and had acquainted them as they were directed, and had also returned to them the several Papers communicated by the Commons at the said Conference on the 31st of May last."
Brewers' Allowance Bill.
The Order of the Day being read for the House to be put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to declare that Brewers selling Beer or Ale in less Quantities than a Cask containing Four Gallons and a Half, shall not be entitled to any Allowance out of the Duties of Excise for Waste or Leakage, and for making Allowances to Distillers of low Wines and Spirits from Malt, Corn, or Grain in Respect to the Duties imposed by an Act of the last Session of Parliament:"
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill on Monday next.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Mercurii, vicesimum diem instantis Julii, horâ undecimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.
DIE Mercurii, 20o Julii 1785.
Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:
PRAYERS.
Bills passed by Commission.
The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House, "That His Majesty had been pleased to issue a Commission to several Lords therein named, for declaring His Royal Assent to several Acts agreed upon by both Houses of Parliament."
The House was adjourned during Pleasure.
The House was resumed.
Then Three of the Lords Commissioners being in their Robes, and seated on a Form placed between the Throne and the Woolsack, the Lord Chancellor in the Middle, with the Lord Archbishop of Canterbury on his Right Hand, and the Lord Osborne on his Left, commanded the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod to signify to the Commons, "The Lords Commissioners desire their immediate Attendance in this House to hear the Commission read."
Who being come, with their Speaker;
The Lord Chancellor said,
My Lords, and Gentlemen of the House of Commons,
His Majesty not thinking fit to be personally present here at this Time, has been pleased to cause a Commission to be issued under the Great Seal, and thereby given His Royal Assent to divers Acts which have been agreed upon by both Houses of Parliament, the Titles whereof are particularly mentioned, and by the said Commission hath commanded us to declare and notify His Royal Assent to the said several Acts, in the Presence of you the Lords and Commons, assembled for that Purpose; which Commission you will now hear read."
Then the said Commission was read by the Clerk, as follows:
GEORGE R.
George the Third, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland King, Defender of the Faith, and so forth: To Our right trusty and right well-beloved the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and to Our trusty and well-beloved the Knights, Citizens, and Burgesses, and the Commissioners for Shires and Burghs of the House of Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, Greeting: Whereas We have seen and perfectly understood divers and sundry Acts agreed, and accorded on by you Our loving Subjects the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and the Commons in this Our present Parliament, assembled and endorsed by you as hath been accustomed, the Titles and Names of which Acts hereafter do particularly ensue; (that is to say) "An Act for granting to His Majesty a certain Sum of Money out of the Sinking Fund, and for applying certain Monies therein mentioned for the Service of the Year One thousand seven hundred and eighty-five, and for further appropriating the Supplies granted in this Session of Parliament; and for pro viding a Compensation to the Clerks in the Offices of the principal Secretaries of State, for the Advantages such Clerks enjoyed before the Commencement of an Act made in the Twenty-fourth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty, for establishing certain Regulations concerning the Portage and Conveyance of Letters and Packets by the Post between Great Britain and Ireland." "An Act for granting to His Majesty a certain Sum of Money to be raised by a Lottery." "An Act to explain and amend an Act made in the Twenty-fourth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty, intituled, "An Act for granting to His Majesty certain Rates and Duties upon Bricks and Tiles made in Great Britain, and for laying additional Duties on Bricks and Tiles imported into the same." "An Act to repeal the Duties upon Flasks in which Florence Wine and Oil is imported; to permit the Importation of Wines in small Casks for private Use; to revive, continue, and amend so much of an Act made in the Sixteenth Year of His present Majesty, as allows the Exportation of certain Quantities of Wheat and other Articles to His Majesty's Sugar Colonies in America; for disallowing the Drawback on the Exportation of Snuff; for continuing the Permission to land Rum or Spirits of the British Sugar Plantations before Payment of the Duties of Excise; for reviving and continuing the Premiums upon the Importation of Pitch, Tar, and Turpentine from East Florida into Great Britain; for allowing a Bounty upon the Exportation of Silk Gauzes, and a Drawback upon the Exportation of Raw Silk." "An Act for repealing the Duties on Linens to be printed, painted, stained or dyed in Great Britain, imposed by an Act made in the last Session of Parliament, and for granting other Duties in Lieu thereof, and on Cotton Stuffs, Muslins, Fustians, Velvets and Velverets, wove in Great Britain, to be printed, stained, painted or dyed, and upon the Importation of Linens, Cotton Stuffs, Muslins, Fustians, Velvets and Velverets, printed, stained, painted or dyed in Foreign Parts." "An Act for altering and amending an Act made in the last Session of Parliament, intituled, "An Act for granting to His Majesty certain Duties on all Gold and Silver Plate imported, and also certain Duties on all Gold and Silver wrought Plate made in Great Britain." "An Act for further postponing the Payment of the Sum of Two Millions advanced by the Governor and Company of the Bank of England towards the Supply for the Service of the Year One thousand seven hundred and eighty-one." "An Act to exempt Carriages carrying the Mail from paying Tolls at any Turnpike Gate in Great Britain." "An Act for reducing the Allowances for Waste on Salt and Rock Salt, for regulating the Exportation of Salt to Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney, and Sark; for repealing the Laws allowing the Use of Foul Salt for Manure only; for allowing a Drawback on the Exportation of Glauber or Epsom Salts; for restraining Fish Curers from being Dealers in Salt; for regulating the Exportation of Herrings from the Isle of Man; for better securing the Duties on Salt; and for indemnifying Persons who have been guilty of Offences against the Laws relating to the Duties on Salt." "An Act to amend so much of an Act passed in the Fourteenth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty, for the further and better Regulation of Buildings and Party Walls, and for the more effectually preventing Mischiefs by Fire within the Cities of London and Westminster and the Liberties thereof, and other the Places therein mentioned, as relates to Manufactories of Turpentine; for extending the Provisions of the said Act so amended to Manufactories of Pitch, Tar, and Turpentine, throughout that Part of Great Britain called England; and for indemnifying the Proprietor of a Turpentine Manufactory in Potter's Fields in the Borough of Southwark, against the Penalties he may be liable to under the said Act, and for excepting for a limited Time his said Manufactory from the Provisions herein contained." "An Act for the Encouragement of the Pilchard Fishery, by allowing a farther Bounty upon Pilchards taken, cured, and exported." "An Act to authorise the Lord Steward of the Household, the Lord Chamberlain, the Master of the Horse, the Master of the Robes, and the Lords of the Treasury respectively, to pay Bounties granted by His Majesty to persons in low and indigent Circumstances." "An Act for the further Encouragement of the British Fisheries." "An Act to prohibit the Exportation to Foreign Parts of Tools and Utensils made Use of in the Iron and Steel Manufactures of this Kingdom, and to prevent the seducing of Artificers or Workmen employed in those Manufactures to go into Parts beyond the Seas." And albeit the said Acts by you Our said Subjects the Lords and Commons in this Our present Parliament assembled, are fully agreed and consented unto, yet nevertheless the same are not of Force and Effect in the Law without Our Royal Assene given and put to the said Acts; and forasmuch as for divers Causes and Considerations, We cannot conveniently at this Time be present in Our Royal Person, in the Higher House of Our said Parliament, being the Place accustomed to give Our Royal Assent to such Acts as have been agreed upon by you Our said Subjects the Lords and Commons, We have therefore caused these Our Letters Patent to be made, and have signed the same, and by the same do give and put Our Royal Assent to the said Acts, and to all Articles, Clauses, and Provisions therein contained, and have fully agreed and assented to the said Acts; Willing, that the said Acts, and every Article, Clause, Sentence, and Provision therein contained, from henceforth shall be of the same Strength, Force, and Effect, as if We had been personally present in the said Higher House, and had openly and publickly, in the Presence of you all, assented to the same: And We do by these Presents declare and notify the same Our Royal Assent, as well to you the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and Commons aforesaid, as to all others whom it may concern; Commanding also, by these Presents, Our right trusty and well-beloved Counsellor, Edward Lord Thurlow, Our Chancellor of Great Britain, to seal these Our Letters Patent with Our Great Seal of Great Britain; and also commanding Our most dear Son and Our faithful Counsellor George Prince of Wales; the most Reverend Father in God, Our right trusty and well-bebeloved Counsellor John Archbishop of Canterbury, Primate and Metropolitan of all England; Our said Chancellor of Great Britain; Our right trusty and well-beloved Counsellor Charles Lord Camden, President of Our Council; Our right trusty and right well-beloved Cousin and Counsellor Granville Earl Gower, Keeper of Our Privy Seal; Our right trusty and right entirely beloved Cousins and Counsellors James Duke of Chandos, Steward of Our Household; Charles Duke of Richmond; George Duke of Montagu, Master of Our Horse; Our right trusty and right well-beloved Cousins and Counsellors James Earl of Salisbury, Chamberlain of Our Household; William Earl of Mansfield, Our Chief Justice assigned to hold Pleas before Us; Our right trusty and well-beloved Cousins and Counsellors Thomas Viscount Weymouth, Groom of Our Stole ; Richard Viscount Howe, First Commissioner of Our Admiralty; and Our right trusty and well-beloved Counsellors Francis Lord Osborne, one of Our principal Secretaries of State; and Thomas Lord Sydney, one other of Our principal Secretaries of State; or any Three or more of them, to declare and notify this Our Royal Assent, in Our Absence in the said Higher House, in the Presence of you the said Lords and the Commons of Our Parliament, there to be assembled for that Purpose; and the Clerk of Our Parliaments to endorse the said Acts with such Terms and Words in Our Name, as is requisite, and hath been accustomed for the same, and also to enroll these Our Letters Patent and the said Acts in the Parliament Roll; and these Our Letters Patent shall be to every of them a sufficient Warrant in that Behalf: And finally, We do declare and will, that after this Our Royal Assent given and passed by these Presents, and declared and notified as is aforesaid, then and immediately the said Acts shall be taken, accepted, and admitted good, sufficient, and perfect Acts of Parliament, and Laws, to all Intents, Constructions, and Purposes, and to be put in due Execution accordingly ; the Continuance or Dissolution of this Our Parliament, or any other Use, Custom, Thing or Things to the contrary thereof notwithstanding. In Witness whereof, We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent.
Witness Ourself at Westminster, the Twentieth Day of July, in the Twenty-fifth Year of Our Reign.
"By the King Himself, signed with His own Hand.
"Yorke."
Then the Lord Chancellor said,
In obedience to His Majesty's Commands, and by virtue of the Commission which has been now read, We do declare and notify to you the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons in Parliament assembled, That His Majesty hath given His Royal Assent to the several Acts in the Commission mentioned, and the Clerks are required to pass the same in the usual Form and Words."
Then the Clerk Assistant having received the Money Bills from the Hands of the Speaker, brought them to the Table, where the Deputy Clerk of the Crown read the Titles of those, and the other Bills, to be passed, severally, as follow ; (videlicet)
1. "An Act for granting to His Majesty a certain Sum of Money out of the Sinking Fund, and for applying certain Monies therein mentioned for the Service of the Year One thousand seven hundred and eighty-five, and for further appropriating the Supplies granted in this Session of Parliament, and for providing a Compensation to the Clerks in the Offices of the Principal Secretaries of State for the Advantages such Clerks enjoyed before the Commencement of an Act made in the Twenty-fourth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty, for establishing certain Regulations concerning the Portage and Conveyance of Letters and Packets by the Post between Great Britain and Ireland."
2. " An Act for granting to His Majesty a certain Sum of Money to be raised by a Lottery."
3. "An Act to explain and amend an Act made in the Twenty-fourth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty, intituled, " An Act for granting to His Majesty certain Rates and Duties upon Bricks and Tiles made in Great Britain, and for laying additional Duties on Bricks and Tiles imported into the same."
4. " An Act to repeal the Duties upon Flasks in which Florence Wine and Oil is imported; to permit the Importation of Wines in shall Casks for private Use; to revive, continue and amend so much of an Act made in the Sixteenth Year of His present Majesty as allows the Exportation of certain Quantities of Wheat and other Articles to His Majesty's Sugar Colonies in America ; for disallowing the Drawback on the Exportation of Snuff; for continuing the Permission to land Rum or Spirits of the British Sugar Plantations before Payment of the Duties of Excise; for reviving and continuing the Premiums upon the Importation of Pitch, Tar, and Turpentine from East Florida into Great Britain; for allowing a Bounty upon the Exportation of Silk Gauzes and a Drawback upon the Exportation of Raw Silk."
5. "An Act for repealing the Duties on Linens to be printed, painted, stained, or dyed in Great Britain, imposed by an Act made in the last Session of Parliament, and for granting other Duties in Lieu thereof; and on Cotton Stuffs, Muslins, Fustians, Velvets, and Velverets wove in Great Britain, to be printed, stained, painted, or dyed ; and upon the Importation of Linens, Cotton Stuffs, Muslins, Fustians, Velvets and Velverets, printed, stained, painted, or dyed, in Foreign Parts."
To these Bills the Royal Assent was pronounced, severally, by the Clerk Assistant in these Words; (videlicet)
"Le Roy remercie ses bons Sujets, accepte leur Benevolence, et ainsi le veult."
6." An Act for altering and amending an Act made in the last Session of Parliament, intituled, "An Act for granting to His Majesty certain Duties on all Gold and Silver Plate imported; and also certain Duties on all Gold and Silver wrought Plate made in Great Britain."
7. "An Act for further postponing the Payment of the Sum of Two Millions advanced by the Governor and Company of the Bank of England, towards the Supply for the Service of the Year One thousand seven hundred and eighty-one."
8. "An Act to exempt Carriages carrying the Mail from paying Tolls at any Turnpike Gate in Great Britain."
9. " An Act for reducing the Allowances for Waste on Salt and Rock Salt; for regulating the Exportation of Salt to Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney, and Sark; for repealing the Laws allowing the Use of Foul Salt for Manure only; for allowing a Drawback on the Exportation of Glauber or Epsom Salts; for restraining Fish-Curers from being Dealers in Salt; for regulating the Exportation of Herrings from the Isle of Man; for better securing the Duties on Salt; and for indemnifying Persons who have been guilty of Offences against the Laws relating to the Duties on Salt."
10. " An Act to amend so much of an Act passed in the Fourteenth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty, for the further and better regulation of Buildings and Party Walls, and for the more effectually preventing Mischiefs by Fire within the Cities of London and Westminster, and the Liberties thereof, and other the Places therein mentioned, as relates to Manufactories of Turpentine; for extending the Provisions of the said Act, so amended, to Manufactories of Pitch, Tar, and Turpentine, throughout that Part of Great Britain called England; and for indemnifying the Proprietor of a Turpentine Manufactory in Potter's Fields in the Borough of Southwark, against the Penalties he may be liable to under the said Act; and for excepting, for a limited Time, his said Manufactory from the Provisions herein contained."
11. "An Act for the Encouragement of the Pilchard Fishery, by allowing a farther Bounty upon Pilchards taken, cured, and exported."
12. " An Act to authorize the Lord Steward of the Household, the Lord Chamberlain, the Master of the Horse, the Master of the Robes, and the Lords of the Treasury, respectively, to pay Bounties granted by His Majesty to Persons in low and indigent Circumstances."
13. " An Act for the further Encouragement of the British Fisheries."
14. " An Act to prohibit the Exportation to foreign Parts, of Tools and Utensils made Use of in the Iron and Steel Manufactures of this Kingdom; and to prevent the seducing of Artificers or Workmen employed in those Manufactures to go into Parts beyond the Seas."
To these Bills the Royal Assent was pronounced, severally, by the Clerk Assistant in these Words; (videlicet)
"Le Roy le veult"
Then the Commons withdrew.
The House was adjourned during Pleasure.
The House was resumed.
Phillips's Reward Bill.
Moved, " That the Bill, intituled, " An Act for providing a Reward to Henry Phillips, on his making a proper Discovery for the Use of the Public of the Composition of his Powder for the Destruction of Insects;" be now read a Second Time."
The said Bill was, accordingly, read a Second Time.
Moved, " That the said Bill be committed."
Which being objected to ;
After short Debate,
The Question was put thereupon?
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill To-morrow.
Commissioners of Accounts Bill.
Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, " An Act for appointing and enabling Commissioners further to examine, take, and state the Public Accounts of the Kingdom."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill To-morrow.
Tea Duty Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Gilbert and others:
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for repealing the Duty imposed on Tea by an Act passed in the last Session of Parliament, and for granting other Duties in Lieu thereof; for repealing so much of several Acts as relates to the Removal of Tea; for directing the Officers of Excise to examine and certify the Exportation of exciseable Commodities; and for better securing the Duties on Candles;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Medicines Duty Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Gilbert and others:
With a Bill, intituled, " An Act for repealing an Act made in the Twenty-third Year of the Reign of His present Majesty, intituled, " An Act for granting to His Majesty a Stamp Duty on Licences to be taken out by certain Persons uttering or vending Medicines; and certain Stamp Duties on all Medicines sold under such Licences, or under the Authority of His Majesty's Letters Patent, and for granting other Duties in Lieu thereof;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
The said Two Bills were, severally, read the First Time.
Phillips's Powder, Address for Papers respecting.
Ordered, That an humble Address be presented to His Majesty, to desire His Majesty will be graciously pleased to order that there be laid before this House, all Certificates, or authentic Copies thereof, transmitted from any of His Majesty's Officers of Ships of War to the Admiralty, Navy, or Victualling Office, relative to the Success of Experiments of Mr.Phillips's Powder for the destroying of Insects.
Ordered, That the said Address be presented to His Majesty by the Lords with white Staves.
Hawkers & Pedlars Duty Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Gilbert and others:
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for granting to His Majesty additional Duties on Hawkers, Pedlars, and petty Chapmen; and for regulating their Trade;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Burials Registry, &c. Duty Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Gilbert and others:
With a Bill, intituled, " An Act to extend the Provisions of an Act made in the Twenty-third Year of His present Majesty's Reign, for granting to His Majesty a Stamp Duty on the Registry of Burials, Marriages, Births, and Christenings to the Registry of Burials, Births, and Christenings of Protestant Dissenters from the Church of England;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Navy Bills, &c. Extension Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Gilbert and others :
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for extending the Time limited by an Act of this Session, for delivering in Navy, Victualling and Transport Bills ;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
The said three Bills were, severally, read the First Time.
City Computers Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Alderman Watson and others:
To return the Bill, intituled, " An Act to enable the Mayor, and Commonalty and Citizens of the City of London, to pull down the Poultry and Wood Street Compters, and to purchase certain Grounds and Buildings within the said City for the Purpose of rebuilding the same;" and to acquaint this House, That they have agreed to their Lordships Amendments made thereto.
Blackfriars Bridge Bill.
Moved, "That the Order for the Second reading of the Bill, intituled, " An Act for laying a Toll upon all Horses and Carriages passing on a Sunday through any Turnpike at or near the Circus, in Saint George's Fields, in the County of Surrey, towards increasing the Fund for watching, lighting, cleansing, watering, and repairing Blackfriars Bridge," on Friday next be now read."
The same was accordingly read by the Clerk.
Ordered, That the said Order be discharged.
Ordered, That the said Bill be read a Second Time on Tuesday next; and that Counsel be then heard in Support of the said Bill.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Jovis, vicesimum primum diem instantis Julii, horâ undecimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.