House of Lords Journal Volume 3: 14 April 1628

DIE Lunæ, 14 die Aprilis,

Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales, quorum nomina subscribuntur, præsentes fuerunt:

Absent Lord's excused.

Collection for the Captives in Barbary.

The Lord Archbishop of Canterbury declared to the House, That, according to a former Order of this House, made 1624, he had received divers Sums of Money, collected upon a Brief granted upon that Order, which Brief is dated 29th of June in the same Year, for Redemption of the English Captives at Algires, etc. the which Collection, together with the One Hundred and Fifty Pounds given by the Lords in Parliament, amount unto the Sum of Two Thousand Eight Hundred Fortyeight Pounds, Three Shillings, and Seven Pence; and that his Grace had paid out of the said Collection, according to the several Orders of the Lords, divers several Sums, amounting in all unto Two Thousand Seven Hundred Ninty-nine Pounds, Eight Shillings, Ten Pence Halfpenny; and so remained in his Hands, upon an Account thereof taken by a Committee of this House, on the 21st of February 1626, the Sum of Forty-eigt Pounds, Fourteen Shillings, Eight Pence Halfpenny: And that the said Committee allowed unto the Collecter of the said Briefs, Twenty-nine Pounds, Seventeen Shillings, Four Pence, as may appear by the Account taken by the said Committee, and signed with their Hands: videlicet, H. Manchester, E. Dorsett, Monmouth, Jo. Roffen, Du. North, Fra. Russell. The which Account his Grace delivered into the House this Day. His Grace further shewed, That he had paid the Sum of Eighteen Pounds, Seventeen Shillings, Four Pence Halfpenny (the full Remainder of the total Sum collected), unto one Thomas Wood, to the Use of Sir Thomas Roe, His Majesty's Ambassador at Constantinople, towards the Redemption of one John Daniell from the Turks; which Money he paid upon an Order of the Council Board, dated the 28th of October 1626; and affirmed that he had now paid the full Sum collected, as abovesaid; the which Order of the Council Board his Grace also delivered to the House.

The Lord Keeper demanded Leave to withdraw himself for a while.

Lords introduced. L. Coventry.

Hodie Thomas Baro Coventrye de Allesborough in Comitatu Wigorn. was brought into the House, in his Parliament Robes (and having the Great Seal in his Hands), between the Barons North and Mountague, Garter going before (as the Manner is); his Lordship being come to the Wool-sack, Garter delivered him the Patent of his Creation; and then his Lordship, with low Obeisance, laid the same down upon the Chair of Estate, and was brought to his Place next below the Lord Maynard, where his Lordship sat a while, and presently removed to the Wool-sack, as Lord Keeper of the Great Seal of England.

L. Howard.

Then Edward Lord Howard of Estryke was brought in his Parliament Robes also, between Two Barons (as the Manner is); and having delivered the Patent of his Creation to the Lord Keeper, and he to the Clerk, was placed next to the Place of the Lord Coventry.

L. Weston.

So likewise Richard Lord Weston of Neylond, and placed next to the Lord Howard of Estryke.

L. Goringe.

And so also George Lord Goringe of Hurstperpoint was brought in, and placed next to the Lord Weston.

Judgement given in the King's Bench complained of by the Commons.

The House was put in Mind of the Business appointed for this Day: videlicet, The Judges of the King's Bench to declare what their Judgement was there (which the Commons complain of), and upon what Ground.

Mr. Justice Whitlocke began, and declared the Matter of Fact; and affirmed, "That they gave no Judgement at all, but only remitted the Party to Prison, quousque, etc. id est, until the Court might be better advised."

(Vide the Effect of all the Declarations of the said Judges of this Matter, the 15th of April, ad hosignumΔ).

Message from the Commons, by Sir Roberte Phillipps and others:

Message from the H.C. to complain against the E. of Suffolk, for Words spoke by him against Mr. Selden.

That they had a great Care to preserve the mutual Respect betwixt both Houses; and, that no particular Accident should trouble or impeach the same. They put their Lordships in Mind that this House hath been very ready to redress Wrongs done to their House, though by a Peer and Member hereof; and complained of a great Injury done by the Earl of Suffolke to their House in general, and in particular to Mr. John Selden, whom they employed in preparing of Things fit to present unto their Lordships, and which are now in Agitation in this House.

The Wrong they complained of was for Words spoken by the said Earl of Suff. unto Sir John Strangwayes, in the Committee Chamber; which Words ho read out of a Paper, to this Effect: videlicet, "Sir John Strangwayes, will you not hang Selden."who answered, "I know no Cause." He the said Earl replied, "By God, he hath razed a Record, and therefore deserves to be hanged." For which Wrong the Commons demand Justice against the said Earl of Suffolke.

E. of Suffolls protests his Innocence.

The Messengers withdrawn; the Earl of Suff. protested, upon his Honour, and upon his Soul, That he never spake those Words to Sir John Strangwayes.

Answer to the H.C.

The Messengers, admitted again, were answered: It is the earnest Desire of the Lords that all good Respect and Correspondency may be kept and maintained between both Houses; wherefore the Lords presently entered into Examination of this Point. And the Earl of Suff. doth, upon his Honour, and upon his Soul, peremptorily deny that he spake those Words to Sir John Strangwayes.

Adjourn.

Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Martis, 15^m diem instantis Aprilis, hora nona, Dominis sic decernentibus.