House of Lords Journal Volume 3: 5 April 1624

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 3, 1620-1628. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

Citation:

'House of Lords Journal Volume 3: 5 April 1624', in Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 3, 1620-1628( London, 1767-1830), British History Online https://prod.british-history.ac.uk/lords-jrnl/vol3/pp288-290 [accessed 16 November 2024].

DIE Lunæ, 5 die Aprilis,

Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales, quorum nomina subscribuntur, præsentes fuerunt:

p. Carolus Princeps Walliæ, etc.



p. Archiepus. Cant. Archiepus. Eborum. p. Epus. London. p. Epus. Dunelm. p. Epus. Winton. Epus. Petriburg. Epus. Hereford. Epus. Wigorn. Epus. Norwicen. p. Epus. Roffen. Epus. Glocestren. Epus. Carlien. p. Epus. Co. et Lich. p. Epus. Bath. et W. p. Epus. Bangor. Epus. Elien. Epus. Cicestren. p. Epus. Oxon. Epus. Cestren. p. Epus. Landaven. Epus. Sarum. p. Epus. Exon. p. Epus. Meneven. p. Epus. Bristol. p. Epus. Asaphen.	p. Epus. Lincoln, Ds. Custos Mag. Sigilli. Comes Midd. Magn. Thes. Angliæ. p. Vicecomes Maundevill, Præs. Conc. Domini Regis. Comes Wigorn. Ds. Custos Privati Sigilli. p. Dux Buckingham, Mag. Admir. Angliæ. Marchio Winton. Comes Oxon. Mag. Camer. Angliæ. p. Comes Cantabr. Sen. Hospitii. p. Comes Pembroc, Cam. Hospitii. p. Comes Arundell et Surr. Comes Mar. Angliæ. Comes Northumbriæ. Comes Nottingham. Comes Salop. p. Comes Kanciæ. Comes Derbiæ. p. Comes Rutland. Comes Cumbriæ. Comes Sussex. Comes Huntington. Comes Bath. p. Comes South'ton. Comes Bedford. Comes Hertford. p. Comes Essex. p. Comes Lincoln. Comes Suffolciæ. Comes Dorsett. p. Comes Sarum. Comes Exon. p. Comes Mountgomerey. p. Comes Bridgwater. Comes Leicester. Comes North'ton. Comes Warwic. p. Comes Devon. Comes March. Comes Holdernesse. p. Comes Carlile. p. Comes Denbigh. Comes Bristol. p. Comes Anglisey. Vicecomes Mountague. p. Vicecomes Wallingford. Vicecomes Purbecke. Vicecomes Maunsfeild. Vicecomes Colchester. p. Vicecomes Rochford. p. Vicecomes Andever. Ds. Abergavenny. Ds. Audley. Ds. Zouch. Ds. Willoughby de E. Ds. Delawarr. Ds. Berkley. Ds. Morley et M. p. Ds. Stafford. p. Ds. Duddeley. p. Ds. Stourton. Ds. Herbert de Sh. p. Ds. Darce de Men. Ds. Vaux. Ds. Windsore. p. Ds. Wentwort. Ds. Mordant. Ds. St. John de Bas. p. Ds. Cromewell. Ds. Evre. Ds. Sheffeild. p. Ds. Pagett. p. Ds. North. p. Ds. St. John de Bl. p. Ds. Howard de W. Ds. Wootton. p. Ds. Russell. Ds. Grey de Groby. Ds. Petre. p. Ds. Danvers. Ds. Spencer. p. Ds. Say et Seale. p. Ds. Denny. p. Ds. Stanhope de H. p. Ds. Carewe. Ds. Arundell de W. p. Ds. Haughton. Ds. Teynham. Ds. Stanhope de Sh. Ds. Noel. p. Ds. Brooke. Ds. Mountague. p. Ds. Cary de Lep. Ds. Kensington. p. Ds. Grey de W.

Lords Leave of Absence.



THE Earl of Suffolke, The Bishops of Chester and Landaffe, and The Lord St. John de Basinge,	Have Leave to be absent.

Purveyance.

Hodie 2^a vice lecta est Billa, An Act concerning the Purveyance and Taking of Horses, Carts, and Carriages, by Land or by Water, for His Majesty's Service; and committed unto the



L. President. L. Steward. L. Chamberlain. E. of Salesbury. L. Bp. of Duresme. L. Bp. of Rochester. L. Bp. of Bath et Wells. L. Bp. of Ely.	L. Wentwoorth. L. North. L. Russell. L. Danvers. L. Say et Seale. L. Denny. L. Haughton. L. Cary of Lepp.



Mr. Serjeant Crew, Mr. Attorney General, Mr. Serjeant Crooke	To attend the Lords.,

To meet on Wednesday next, at Two of the Clock in the Afternoon, in the Painted Chamber.

Popish Recusants.

The Petition against Popish Recusants, which the Commons desire to be presented unto His Majesty, and that the Lords join with them therein, was read by the Clerk; and, to the End their Lordships may the more freely debate the same, the House was adjourned ad libitum; and the Lord Keeper removed to his due Place on the Earls Bench.

During which Time Mr. Attorney read the Preface of that Petition.

And their Lordships having debated, whether a short Induction is fitter to be used, and that the Reasons moving the Petition be apart by itself; and not delivered unless His Majesty demand the same (prout quinto Martii, in the Advice delivered His Majesty to dissolve the Two Treaties); then Mr. Attorney read the several Parts of the Petition; and their Lordships having debated, whether any more shall be now desired of His Majesty than the Execution of the Laws in Force against Recusants, lest it be noised we will begin a Persecution; their Lordships left the Conclusion, both for the Preface and for the Petition, unresolved at this Time; but agreed to proceed to a further Consideration thereof Tomorrow Morning.

And then the House was resumed, and the Lord Keeper returned to his Seat; and the House appointed these Lords Sub-committees touching the Petition against Popish Recusants: videlicet,



L. Archbp. of Canterbury. L. President. L. Chamberlain. L. Bp. of Covent. and Lich.	L. Say et Seale. L. Haughton. L. Brooke. L. Cary of Leppington.



The Lord Chief Justice, Mr. Attorney General	To attend the Lords.,

To meet To-morrow Morning, at Eight of the Clock, in the Painted Chamber.

The Petition against Popish Recusants.

"May it please your most Excellent Majesty,

"We Your Majesty's most humble and loyal Subjects, the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, having, to our singular Comfort, received Your Princely Resolution, upon our humble Petition, to dissolve the Two Treaties, of the Match and of the Palatinate; and having on our Parts, with all Alacrity and Readiness, humbly offered our Assistance to Your Majesty to maintain the War which may ensue thereupon; yet withall sensibly finding what seditious and traiterous Positions those Incendiaries of Rome, and professed Engines of Spaine, the Priests and Jesuits, infuse into your natural-born Subjects; what Numbers they have seduced, and do daily seduce, to make their Dependence on the Pope of Rome and King of Spaine, contrary to their Allegiance to Your Majesty, their Liege Lord; what daily Resort of Priests and Jesuits into Your Kingdoms; what Concourse of Popish Recusants, much more than usual, is now in and about the City of London; what Boldness, yea what Insolency, they have discovered, out of the Opinion conceived of their Foreign Patronage; what public Resort to Masses, and other Exercises of the Popish Religion, in the Houses of Foreign Ambassadors, there is daily, to the great Grief and Offence of Your good Subjects; what great Preparations are made in Spaine, fit for an Invasion, the Bent whereof is as probable to be upon some Part of Your Majesty's Dominions as upon any other Place; what Encouragement may it be to Your Enemies, and the Enemies of Your Crown, to have a Party, or but the Opinion of a Party, within Your Kingdoms, who do daily increase and combine themselves together for that Purpose? what disheartening of Your good and loving Subjects, when they shall see more Cause of Fear from their false-hearted Countrymen at Home than from their professed Adversaries abroad; what apparent Dangers, by God's Providence and Your Majesty's Wisdom and Goodness, they have very lately escaped, which the longer Continuance of those Treaties, upon such unfitting Conditions, fomented by your own ill-affected Subjects, would surely have drawn upon Your Majesty and Your State; do, in all Humbleness, offer to Your Sacred Majesty these their humble Petitions following:

"1. That all Jesuits and Seminary Priests, and all others having taken Orders by any Authority derived from the See of Rome, may, by Your Majesty's Proclamation, be commanded forthwith to depart out of this Realm, and all other Your Highness's Dominions; and neither they, nor any other, to return or come hither again, upon Peril of the severest Penalty of the Laws now in Force against them; and that all Your Majesty's Subjects may hereby also be admonished, not to receive, entertain, comfort, or conceal any of that viperous Brood, upon the Penalties and Forfeitures which by the Laws may be imposed upon them.

"2. That Your Majesty would be pleased to give streight and speedy Charge to the Justices of Peace, in all the Parts of this Kingdom, That (according to the Laws in that Behalf made, and the Orders taken by Your Majesty's Privy Council heretofore, for Policy of State) they do take from all Popish Recusants, legally convicted, or justly suspected, all such Armour, Gun-powder, and Munition of any Kind, as any of them have, either in their own Hands, or in the Hands of any other for them, and to see the same safely kept and disposed according to the Law; leaving them, for the necessary Defence of their Houses and Persons, so much as by the Law is prescribed.

"3. That Your Majesty will please to command all Popish Recusants, and all others who by any Law or Statute are prohibited to come to the King's Court, forthwith, under Pain of Your heavy Displeasure, and severe Execution of Your Laws against them, to retire themselves, their Wives and Families, from or about London, to their several Dwellings or Places by Your Laws appointed, and there to remain confined within Five Miles of their Dwelling Places, according to the Laws of this Your Realm; and, for that Purpose, to discharge all by-past Licences granted unto them for their Repair hither; and that they presume not at any Time hereafter to repair to London, or within Ten Miles of London, or to the King's Court, or to the Prince's Court, wheresoever.

"4. That Your Majesty would forbid and restrain the great Resort and Concourse of Your own Subjects, for the Hearing of Mass, or for other Exercise of the Romish Religion, to the Houses of Foreign Ambassadors, or Agents residing here for the Service of their several Princes or States.

"5. That where of late, in several Counties of this Realm, some have been trusted in the Places of Lords Lieutenants, Deputies Lieutenants, Commissioners of Oyer and Terminer, Justices of Peace, and Captains in their Countries, which are either Popish Recusants, or Non-communicants by the Space of a Year now past, or which do not usually resort to the Church to Divine Service, and can bring good Certificate thereof; that Your Majesty would be pleased to discharge them from those Places of Trust, by which they have that Power, in the Country where they live, as is not fit to be put into the Hands of Persons so affected.

"6. That Your Majesty would be pleased generally to put the Laws in due Execution, which are made and stand in Force against Popish Recusants; and that all Your Judges, Justices, and Ministers of Justice, to whose Care these Things are committed, may, by Your Majesty's Proclamation, be commanded to do their Duty therein.

"7. That, seeing we are thus happily delivered from that Danger, which those Treaties now dissolved, and that Use which your ill-affected Subjects made thereof, would certainly have drawn upon us, and yet cannot but foresee and fear lest the like may hereafter happen, which would inevitably bring such Peril to Your Majesty's Kingdoms; we are most humble Suitors to Your Gracious Majesty to secure the Hearts of Your good Subjects, by the Engagement of Your Royal Word unto them, That, upon no Occasion of Marriage or Treaty, or other Request in that Behalf, from any Foreign Prince or State whatsoever, You will take away or slacken the Execution of Your Laws against the Popish Recusants.

"To which our humble Petitions, proceeding from our most loyal and dutiful Affections towards Your Majesty, our Care of our Country's Good, and our confident Persuasion that these will much advance the Glory of Almighty God, the everlasting Honour of Your Majesty, the Safety of Your Kingdoms, and the Encouragement of all Your good Subjects, (fn. 1) we do most humbly beseech Your Majesty to vouchsafe a gracious Answer."

Message to the H. C. concerning Recusants, &c.

Message sent to the Commons, by Mr. Serjeant Finch and Mr. Serjeant Crooke: That their Lordships have taken into their Consideration the Petition against Recusants, &c. and do hope that they shall be ready To-morrow to send unto them for a Conference.

East India Ships.

The Lord Duke of Buckingham signified unto the House, That His Majesty, at the humble Petition of the East Indian Merchants, had commanded his Grace to discharge those East Indian Ships, which he had stayed, according to the Order of this House made the First of March last; and his Grace moved, That that Order may therefore be countermanded.

Ordered, That the Clerk do cross that Order of Primo Martii out of the Book.

Committees for Munitions, &c.

The Lords Committees for Munitions, &c. are to meet To-morrow, at Two in the Afternoon, in the Painted Chamber.

The Lords Sub-committees for Munitions, &c. are to meet this Afternoon, at Two, in the Council Chamber at Whitehall.

Lord Treasurer.

Whereupon the Lord Treasurer said, That his Lordship would desire no Favour but Expedition; and, when they have done, his Lordship will shew a dangerous Plot, Conspiracy, and Combination against him; which if it be suffered, no Man shall be in Safety in his Place.

Conference concerning Monopolies.

The Lord Keeper put the House in Mind of those Bills that stand committed, whereon a Conference is agreed to be prayed with the Commons; and moved their Lordships to take the same into Consideration, for that they have long depended, and one of them, videlicet, that of Monopolies, was specially commended hither.

Their Lordships Agreed, To proceed therein as soon as their other greater Business will permit.

Adjourn.

Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem crastinum, videlicet, sextum diem instantis Aprilis, hora 8^a, Dominis sic decernentibus.