Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 13, 1675-1681. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.
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DIE Jovis, 15 die Maii.
Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:
PRAYERS.
Johnson's and Wright's Information against Jonathan Smith.
The Earl of Clarendon reported, from the Lords Committees of Examinations, Two Informations brought to them, which they thought fit to acquaint this House with; which Informations were read, as follows:
"The Informations of William Johnson, of PettyFrance, Pipemaker, and Joseph Wright, Clerk of New Chappell, in St. Margaret's Westm. taken upon Oath, this 15th Day of May, 1679, before me, Edmond Warcupp Esquire, One of His Majesty's Justices of the Peace in the said County and City.
"Midd. et Westm. ff.
"These Informants say, That, upon Friday the Ninth of May Instant, one Jonathan Smith, a Papist, being in Bed in the Room where these Informants lay, in the House of Thomas Myles, the Beadle of St. Margarett's Parish, did, among other Things, after he had owned himself to be a Papist, and had some Persuasion these Informants were of the same Religion, utter these Words, or to the Effect following: "That he knew the King was a Papist; and that the Duke of Monmouth and the rest of the Nobles of this Kingdom were Papists also; and that there was hardly One of them but had Romish Priests in their Houses:" And further added, "That His Majesty was as great a Papist as any was in the Nation; and He, we do think, was One that set the Borough of Southwark on Fire." And these Informants further say, That the said Jonathan Smith did then also declare, "that he durst not go to Kingston to retire out of the Town, according to the King's Proclamation; for that he feared to be known there, in regard he had been tried for his Life, as a Person guilty of setting Fire to the said Borough of Southwarke; and that it cost the Papists One Hundred Pounds, the Day of his Trial, to save his Life, besides the many Pounds it cost the Romish Church before and after in that Affair." And he further added, "That now he hath his Maintenance from the Lord Stafford's House, the said Smith's Uncle, one Smith, being Steward to the Lord Stafford." And this Informant William Johnson further saith, That the said Jonathan Smith spoke all the same Things to him, on the Eighth of May Instant, when in Bed with him; and added, "that there were Two or Three honest Men that my Lord Stafford had left in his House at Tarthall, besides his Uncle Smith, who was Steward, to look after the said House." And this Informant verily believes, that some Priests, or other dangerous Persons, may be there harboured, which this Informant suspects from the Discourses aforesaid. And the said Jonathan Smith declared also, "That he knew Mr. Bedloe, and that there would be old bustling when the Lords came to the Trial." And further saith not.
Jurat. Die et Anno supradict. coram me,
"William Johnson.
Joseph Wright."
Edmond Warcupp.
Vise. Stafford's House to be searched.
ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That Edmond Warcupp Esquire, and Simon Parrey Esquire, Two of the Deputy Lieutenants for the County of Midd. be, and are hereby, authorized and required forthwith to repair to and search the House belonging to the Lord Viscount Stafford, commonly called or known by the Name of Tarthall, and to seize all such dangerous Persons or Papers as they shall find there, and give an Account thereof to the Lords Committees for Examinations; and for their so doing, this shall be a sufficient Warrant.
Commons desire to know whether the Bishops are to vote on the Validity of the E. of Danby's Pardon.
The Lord President reported, "That the Lords Committees have met the Committee of the House of Commons this Morning, and communicated to them in Writing the Explanation made by this House Yesterday, of the Vote passed the Day before, concerning the Right of the Lords Spiritual to sit in Court in Capital Cases.
"To which the Commons urged, That if the Pardon of the Earl of Danby infer Life and Death, it is the same with Guilty or Not Guilty. And, being desirous to reduce the Business to a Particular, asked, Whether it were intended by that Vote, that the Lords Spiritual should vote upon the Pardon of the Earl of Danby?
In Answer whereunto, we told them, we had no Instructions in that Point; but would acquaint the House with it."
ORDERED, That the Debate upon this Report is adjourned till To-morrow Morning.
Message from H. C. with a Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Serjeant Seyse, &c.
Who brought a Bill, which they have passed, intituled, "An Act for re-engrossing of the Records of Fines burnt or lost in the late Fire in The Temple;" to which their Lordships Concurrence is desired.
For re-engrossing of Fines burnt or lost, Bill.
Hodie 1a vice lecta est Billa, "An Act for re-engrossing of Fines burnt or lost in the late Fire in The Temple."
D. of Norfolk's Bill.
Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, "An Act for vesting some of the Manors and Lands of the Duke of Norfolk and Henry Lord Mowbray his Son in Trustees, for the Satisfaction and Payment of Debts and Annuities charged on their Estate, raising a Portion for the Lady Frances Howard, for the rebuilding Norfolk House, and continuing the Residue of the Manors and Lands (after the Trusts performed) with the Dukedom of Norfolk."
ORDERED, That the Consideration of this Bill is committed to these Lords following:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them; to meet on Saturday Sevennight, the 24th of this Instant May, at Four a Clock in the Afternoon, in the Prince's Lodgings; and to adjourn from Time to Time; and, having heard all Parties concerned, to make Report thereof.
Dale's Bill.
Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, "An Act for Sale of the Lands, late of Charles Dale, of the County of Rutland, Esquire, deceased, for Payment of his Debts, and Provision for his Daughters and Coheirs."
ORDERED, That the Consideration of this Bill is committed to these Lords following:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them; to meet To-morrow, at Nine of the Clock in the Forenoon, in the Prince's Lodgings.
Lawson, Solicitor for the Popish Lords et al. to be examined.
Whereas Mr. Henry Lawson, who is Solicitor for the Five Lords who are Prisoners in The Tower, was, by Order of the Twelfth Instant, required to attend at the Bar of this House on Tuesday last, to answer to what was then sworn against him by Richard Childe; on which Tuesday the House was not at Leisure for that Purpose:
It is this Day ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That the said Henry Lawson and the said Richard Childe, as also William Day, are hereby required to appear before the Lords Committees for examining Matters relating to the Discovery of the late horrid Conspiracy, to be by their Lordships examined, at such Time as the said Committee shall appoint; who are to make Report thereof unto the House.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Veneris, 16um diem instantis Maii, hora decima Aurora, Dominis sic decernentibus.
Hitherto examined, this 17th Day of May, 1679,
J. Bridgewater.
Craven.
Fauconberg.
P. Bath & Wells.
North & Grey.
Vaughan Carbery.