House of Lords Journal Volume 10: 11 August 1648

DIE Veneris, 11 die Augusti.

PRAYERS, by Doctor Staunton.

Domini præsentes suerunt:

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Ly. Delawar and Drake.

The Answer of the Lady La Warr, to the Petition of Roger Drake, was read; claiming her Privilege.

It is Ordered, That her Privilege of Parliament shall be allowed her, so long as it is allowed to others that are in her Condition.

Ly. Portman a Pass.

Ordered, That the Lady Portman shall have a Pass, to go into Som'settshire.

Sackvile Coll. and the E. of Thanet.

Upon reading the Petition of the poor People of Sackvile Colledge, in the County of Sussex:

It is Ordered, That the Earl of Thanett shall have a Copy of this Petition, and return his Answer this Day Sevennight.

Ordinance to take off Sir R. Hansby's Sequestration.

An Ordinance was brought in, for taking off the Sequestration of Sir Ralph Hansbye's Estate; and read, and passed; and to be sent to the House of Commons for their Concurrence.

Letter, &c. from the L. Admiral.

The Earl of Kent reported from the Committee at Derby House. the Letter of the Lord Admiral, from aboard The St. George, in Tilbury Hope, with the Examinations inclosed; and being read, they are to be sent to the House of Commons. (Here enter them.)

Stobart's Information.

Upon reading the Information of Rich. Stobart, subscribed with his Name:

It is Ordered, That the said Richard Stobart shall attend this House To-morrow Morning, to make Oath of the Truth of the said Information.

Letter from Col. Jones.

A Letter from Colonel Jones, in Ireland, was read, and ordered to be sent to the House of Commons. (Here enter it.)

Preachers at the Fast.

Ordered, That Mr. Ash and Mr. Greenhill are appointed to preach before the Lords in Parliament, the next Fast-day, at Martin's Church in the Feilds.

Shadwel's Ordinance to be Comptroller of Lynn.

An Ordinance was presented to this House, for making Mr. Thomas Shadwell Comptroller of the Customs of King's Lynn, upon the Death of Roger Bungie; which was read Twice, and passed, and ordered to be sent to the House of Commons for their Concurrence.

Letter to be wrote to the Gen. for Col. Legg to have Leave to come up.

Ordered, That the Speaker write a Letter to the General, to let him know, "That this House is informed, that Colonel Rob't Legg is in Danger of his Life, in regard of his Wounds; therefore desires Leave to be brought up hither: And therefore do recommend it to him to give him Leave, if he finds (fn. 1) him to be so dangerously wounded, the said Legg not being able to be at the Charge of a Surgeon to go down to him at St. Needs."

Major Huntington's Discharge.

The General's Discharge of Major Huntington, was read. (Here enter it.)

Message from the H. C. with the Form of Church Government.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Dodderidge; who brought up the Form of Church Government, wherein their Lordships Concurrence is desired.

Answer.

The Answer returned was:

That their Lordships will take their Message into speedy Consideration, and send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Form of Church Government.

Ordered, That the Form of Church Government shall be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

"Die Veneris, 11 Augusti, 1648.

"At a Committee of Lords and Commons, at Derby House.

"Ordered, That the Letter of the Lord Admiral, from aboard The St. George, in Tilbury Hope, with the Examinations inclosed, be reported to both Houses.

"Ex'r. Gualter Frost, Secretary."

Letter from the L. Adm. with the following Examinations.

"My Lords and Gentlemen,

"This Day there came into The Hope a Vessel heretofore the Lord Dacres'. Having Cause, from some Intimations formerly received, strongly to suspect that she was bound to The Downes for the Prince's Service, I caused a strict Examination to be taken of her Company and Design; and, after many Denials and Contradictions, found out the whole Truth, which will be best represented by the Examinations themselves, a Copy whereof I send your Lordships here inclosed. That which made Way to some of the Examinants Consession was, the Original Bill of Sale from the Lord Dacres to Mr. Henry Challenor, in Consideration of One Hundred Twenty Pounds, the same being dated the First of April, 1648, and a Receipt for the Money under the Hand of his Lordship's Servant, dat. 15 May last; both which I retain in my Keeping. The Persons that appeared interested in this Design are, Mr. Henry Challenor, who (as by Papers now found appears) hath been in Arms against the Parliament, and made his Composition; also Richard Brett, who passed as his Servant; and Edward Whiting, who, being with Captain Greene (in a Vessel commissionated by the Prince, and lately seized on by Sir Miles Livesey), did make an Escape, having been also heretofore (as I am informed) active at Sea against the Parliament. These Three Persons I have sent up in a Ketch, to be disposed of as your Lordships, &c. shall direct. The Master, who seems to be a poor Man, and drawn into this Engagement through Want of Employment, I have committed aboard The Unicorne. James Henley (concerning whom Captain Penrose, the Bearer hereof, will attend your Lordships, &c. with some further Advertisements if you shall please, being also the Party concerned in the Letter from Captain Hawkridge to Mr. Challenor, which I herewith send) I have committed aboard The Adventure, till further Order. John Johnson Sluice, a Dutchman, who had his Wife and some Children aboard, I have discharged; his Consession leading the Way to the rest. Your Lordships will also find Captain Hawkridge deeply concerned herein, whom I leave to be dealt with as your Lordships, &c. shall see Cause. The Vessel itself I keep with me, being very serviceable to attend the Fleet. The Ships with me are now near manned, there wanting about One Hundred Eighty Men to compleat One Thousand and Sixty (the whole Number borne upon the Ships here), which I hope will be within few Days supplied. And so, taking my Leave, I rest

Aboard The St. George, in Tilbury Hope, 10 Aug. 1648.

"Your Lordships, &c.

"Very affectionate and humble Servant,

"Warwicke.

"For your Lordships, &c."

Examinations concerning the Vessel Constant Dacre, detained by him, going to the Prince in The Downs.

"Henry Challenor, of London, Gentleman, examined aboard The St. George, in Tilbury Hope, this 10th of August, 1648, faith,

"That he shipped himself aboard The Constant Dacre, with Intention to go in her to Pevensey, and from thence to France, whither he hath a Pass under the Hand of Mr. Speaker of the House of Commons. There are aboard the Vessel, the Master Richard Sayes, with Three Mariners and a Boy, and One Henley a Passenger (whom he knows not to be the Lord Dacres' Servant); also a Woman and Four Children belonging to the Master of the Pleasureboat, who is One of the said Three Mariners, and is going to my Lord Dacres: The Vessel is now my Lord Dacres'; but he thinks he shall have it for himself at his coming to Pevensey."

"Richard Sayes, Master of The Constant Dacre aforesaid, aged Thirty-seven Years, or thereabouts, being then and there examined, faith,

"That the said Vessel is bound for Pevensey, to be there employed for some Affairs of the Lord Dacres, having aboard no Goods, only some Provisions of Beef, Beer, &c.

"That he intends to pass on the Back of The Goodwyn, to avoid the revolted Ships at The Downes: That there are aboard the said Vessel Three Mariners and a Boy, their Names Nicholas Nashe, Whiting of London a married Man, and John Sluice. The Boy's Name he knows not. There's also aboard one Henley, a Passenger; but he knows not whether he be a Seaman."

"James Henley, of London, Mariner, aged Thirtytwo Years or thereabouts, then and there examined, faith,

"That he is bound, in The Constant Dacre, to Pevensey, in Sussex, being Servant to the Lord Dacre, whither she is bound to fetch some Goods of my Lord's. The Master hath told him, That they intend to go about by The Goodwyn, to escape The Downes. He is not certain what Employment the Lord Dacre means to give the Informant; but he received a Note lately to come aboard her, and Mr. Challoner did know his said Entertainment. That there is a Gentleman aboard, whose Name he knows not, being Servant to Mr. Challenor."

"Edward Whiting, of London, Mariner, aged Fifty Years or thereabouts, then and there examined, faith,

"That he was sometimes employed with Bowden, in One of the King's Men of War; and was lately with Captain Greene, at his putting on Shore at the Isle of Thannett, where he this Informant made an Escape; the said Captain Greene having gone from Bulloigne, about Six Weeks since, to Callis, from whence he accompanied the Prince to The Brill, and thence to The Downes. Denies that the said Vessel of Greene's did take any Vessel whatsoever.

"That he was hired, at Twenty-seven Shillings per Mensem, by the Master of The Constant Dacre, for this Voyage, being shipped Two or Three Days ago; being bound, as the Master told him, for Pevensey, to fetch some Goods of the Lord Dacres': That Mr. Henley came to them Yesterday; but what his Intentions are, he knows not."

John Johnson Sluice, of Deale, in the County of Kent, Mariner, aged Twenty-eight Years or thereabouts, being then and there examined, faith,

"That he was hired, by the Master Rich. Sayes, by the Month, at Twenty-two Shillings per Mensem, to serve in The Constant Dacre, on Sunday last was Sevennight; there being aboard the said Vessel, the Master, Three Men (whereof the Informant is One), and a Boy, besides Mr. Challenor and his Servant, and another Passenger whose Name he knows not, and this the Informant's Wife, Daughter to Captain Will'ms, alias Devill, and Three Children, whereof Two are the said Captain Williams', alias Devill, who lives at Deale, purposing to carry his Wife and Children to Pevensey aforesaid."

"Richard Brett, of London, Gentleman, aged Twenty Years or thereabouts, examined, then and there, faith,

"That he belongs to Mr. Challenor, as his Servant, and so hath been for a Twelve-month: That The Constant Dacre is bound for Pevensey, in Sussex, to fetch some Goods of the Lord Dacres'."

"Henry Challenor, further examined, faith,

"The said Richard Brett hath been his Servant about a Month; and that he bought the said Vessel of the Lord Dacres Three Months ago, or thereabouts; but the Money is not yet all paid."

"Sarah Williams, Daughter to Captain Williams, of Deale, aged Eleven Years or thereabouts, examined, then and there, faith,

"That she's bound to Pevensey, hoping shortly to see her Father, who lives at Deale; he going to Holland about Three Months since, with the Informant, &c. in a Dutch Ship, and returning about a Month since to The Downes, where they could not land, the Parliament Forces being thereabouts."

"Anne Sluice, Wife of John Johnson Sluice, then and there examined, faith,

"That she is going to Pevensey."

"Richard Sayes, further examined,

"Denies that the Vessel was designed for the Prince. Saith, That he was hired by Captain Hawkridge, at Forty Shillings per Mensem, the latter End of April, for all the Year, being at Home and Abroad; and gave him Authority to ship Men. He knows not that my Lord Dacres sold the Vessel; but thinks Mr. Challenor was in Election to buy her. Through The Downes the Vessel might have gone; but he intended not to serve against the State. And he hath heard it said, that she would make a fine Packet-boat for a Fleet. He denies that he made any Agreement with Sluice for Wages. But Captain Hawkridge wished him to go down; and he said he would have Twentytwo Shillings per Mensem; and that Mrs. Sluice and the Children would be content to be landed at Margett, to go to Deale."

"John Johnson Sluice, further examined, faith,

"He never saw Captain Hawkeridge."

"Richard Sayes faith,

"He hath heard Captain Hawkeridge say, she would make a fine Packet-boat for he Prince."

"John Johnson Sluice, further examined,

This was taken upon Oath.

"Confesseth, That became aboard to get Home with his Family to Deale, and intended to land at Ramsgate (and so to quit the Service); and then it may be judged what is intended to be done with the Vessel. Yet he is not minded to serve the Prince; but believes the rest intended to go to the Prince.

"And at last did ingenuously confess, that the Vessel was bound into The Downes, to be presented to the Prince, and to be at his Dispose; and (fn. 2) voluntarily offered to set the same under his Hand, and deliver the same upon his Oath to be true.

"The Mark of

"Richard Sayes, further examined,

This was taken upon Oath.

"Confesseth, That Captain Hawkeridge and Mr. Challenor did hire him, at The Globe at Redriff Wall, the latter End of April, on Pretence to be employed betwixt Morleaux and Lyme, &c.; and that, by a latter Conclusion, made the last Week, he was to carry The Constant Dacre to the Prince; which he knows, for Mr. Challenor and Mr. Henley did both tell him so. And delivers the same on his Oath to be true.

"Richard Sayes."

"James Henly, further examined,

"Confesseth, They were all resolved to serve the Prince, he having a Note from Captain Hawkeridge to Captain Challener, who, upon Receipt thereof, did willingly receive him, and so it was fully concluded; Mr. Challenor and he going as Volunteers, with (fn. 3) absolute Resolution to serve the Prince with their Persons and the Vessel. This was agreed, on Monday last, betwixt this Informant and Captain Hawkeridge, at The Garter Taverne, in Long Acre, the Master of the House one Martin; and the next Day he carried the Note aforementioned to Mr. Challenor. And they were now going down to pursue the Design, and had done it if my Lord Admiral had not prevented it; and that the Vessel passed the Fort at Tilbury, on shewing of a Letter from Mr. Crumpe, the Lord Dacres' Steward. And further faith, That Captain Hawkeridge did promise to come down to join with them in this Service, if he could dispatch his Business.

"Jame' Henley."

"Henry Challenor, further examined,

This taken upon Oath.

"Confesseth, That he used my Lord Dacres' Name at the Fort, to get the Vessel cleared; and hath given out that the Voyage was for my Lord Dacres' Service. But the Truth is, my Lord Dacres was no Way concerned in the Voyage or Design, though they used his Name for countenancing of the Business. And this he affirms on his Oath to be true.

"Henry Challenor."

"Edward Whiteing, further examined, confesseth,

This taken on Oath.

"That he thinks the Vessel should have gone to The Downes; and that there was no other Intent; and hath heard Mr. Challenor Yesterday say, "That he could wish he were at The Downes." Which he delivers on his Oath to be true.

"Edw. Whiting.

"Vera Copía.

"Warwicke."

Captain Hawkridge's Letter.

"Loving Friend,

"The Bearer hereof, my good Friend Captain Henley, is the Man which I have often told you of: Therefore let me entreat you to be pleased to converse with him; for, I do insure you, I will put Life and Goods in his Hand. I pray advise with him; and you will not fail of your Expectation.

London, the 8th of August, 1648.

"Yours ever,

"Will. Hawkeridge.

"For my Loving Friend Captain Henry Chab lenor, aboard The Constant Dacre, or elsewhere. These."

Letter from Colonel Jones, concerning the Proceedings of the Army in Ireland; and desiring a Reinforcement.

"Right Honourable,

"By a Party of One Thousand Six Hundred and Fifty Foot, and Seven Hundred and Fifty Horse, sent out the 28th past with Sir Henry Tichborne, and commanded by Colonel Moncke (who was to meet them with One Hundred Horse, and Two Hundred Foot), we have (by God's Assistance) possessed ourselves, in the County of Meath, of the Castle of Raffin, the Two strong Forts of Nobber and Ardlonan (alias Cruses-Fort), and of Laganwater Castle, standing on a considerable Pass. There is also taken the strong Castle of Ballehoe; our Men entering a Breach made with above Forty Great Shot, and putting to the Sword all therein. Colonel Moncke is called off from us, by some Occasions requiring his Presence at Home; but our Party is proceeding in the Work, for clearing that Country of the Enemy's Garrisons, and for thereby settling our Quarters, and enlarging them.

"The Notice of Preston's Advance with Four Thousand Men (he having been within Twenty Miles of our Quarters) occasioned my not advancing with that Party now abroad, that with the rest of the Army I might attend the Enemy's Motions, if breaking in upon us. The further purging also of the Army from Malignants (whereof I had in my last given your Honours some Account) required necessarily my Presence, for finishing that Work, and for preventing any Evil thereupon ensuing, which, in mine and the Army's Absence, might break out to a greater Inconvenience. But, all Things settled, I shall (God assisting me) with the whole Army fall into the Enemy's Quarters; and shall then perfect, what by a Party only I am now but leading unto, the destroying the Rebels Corn as far as I may possibly do.

"Preston is, with his Army, taking-in those Places by Owen Roe held hereabouts; and is at present besieging Athy, Part of which he hath already taken, and is with Four Guns battering the principal Hold in it.

"Clanriccard and Taafe, joined with some Horse of Inchiquin's, have taken the Castle of Athlone, by them besieged, and held by Captain Gamly for Owen Roe; who, for Five Hundred Pounds and the Command of a Troop of Horse, hath surrendered the Place, it being delivered into the Lord Dillon of Costilloe's Possession; wherein is appearing, how much may be yet done towards your Work here, were this your Army reinforced, which I earnestly desire may be done (although for the present but with the fewer); that also the Money designed may be sent us with all convenient Speed, the present Service requiring it, and there not being One Hundred Pounds at this Instant in the Treasury. All which, and what hath been formerly represented as necessary for us, I leave to your Honourable Consideration; and remain

Dublin, Aug. 4th 1648

"Your Honour's

"Most humble and Faithful Servant,

"Mic. Jones.

"To the Right Honourable the Earl of Manchester, Speaker to the Honourable the Lords House of Parliament. These present."

Launce to be instituted to St. Edmund the King.

Ordered, That Doctor Aylett give Institution and Induction unto William Launce Master of Arts, to the Rectory of St. Edmund's Lumberstreete, London, void by Death; salvo Jure cujuscunque: Granted under the Great Seal.

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 10^a cras.