Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 20 Part 1, January-July 1545. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1905.
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"Henry VIII: February 1545, 16-20". Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 20 Part 1, January-July 1545. Ed. James Gairdner, R H Brodie(London, 1905), , British History Online. Web. 16 November 2024. https://prod.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol20/no1/pp90-101.
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February 1545, 16-20
| 16 Feb. | 205. Sir Richard Lee to Shrewsbury. |
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| Add. MS. 32,656, f. 152. B. M. Hamilton Papers, ii., No. 407(1). |
Has viewed Tynemouth, with the situation of the castle, and, thinking it most apt and needful to be fortified, desires an order to one Bowfyld, who has custody here of munitions prepared for last expedition into Scotland, to deliver out spades, shovels, mattocks, baskets and other necessaries for the work. Newcastell, 16 Feb. Signed. |
| P. 1. Add. Endd.: 1544. | |
| 16 Feb. | 206. Sir Richard Lee to Shrewsbury. |
| Add. MS. 32,656, f. 154. B. M. Hamilton Papers, ii., No 407(2). |
Finds Tynmowthe a place most needful to be fortified and requires him, if possible, for the presting of men and buying of necessaries, to despatch 100l. to Mr. Woodall, who is content to undertake the payments and seems the meetest man in these parts. Within two days will send platts and designs of the device, to be forwarded to the King, Newcastle, 16 Feb. Signed. |
| P. 1. Add. Endd.: 1544. | |
| 16 Feb. | 207. Cumberland to Shrewsbury. |
| Add. MS. 32,656, f. 143. B. M. Hamilton Papers, ii., No. 405. |
Has received his letters of the 15th inst. with the joyful news of the notable victory over the Frenchmen at Bullayn. Has also received a letter from sundry of the Council for the advancement of the Benevolence, and will prepare himself to set it forward with all celerity. Carleton, 16 Feb. Signed. |
| P. 1. Add. Endd.: 1544. | |
| 17 Feb. | 208. John bp. of Peterborough and Others to Pekham. |
| R. O. | Whereas there is 22s. "charged in the extracts of the Benevolence upon a person's head of Newark, there is no such person nor personage within Northamptonshire." Please disburden the collector thereof. 17 Feb. Signed: John Petrburgh: Rychard Humfrey: John Lane th'elder. |
| P. 1. Add.: "To the right worshipful Sir Edmund Pekham, knight, cofferer of the King's Majesty's most honorable household." | |
| 209. Richard Humfrey, John Lane, the Elder, and Thomas Brudenell to Pekham. | |
| R. O. | Desire him to discharge John Ekyns of Densford in Hokeslow hundred, Ntht., who "is double charged at the Benevolence within the said hundred by reason of writing the said town of Densford twice within the hundred," of one of the said payments. He granted 21s. Signed. |
| P. 1. Add.: "To the right worshipful Sir Edmund Peckham, knight, cofferer of the King's Majesty's most honorable Household." | |
| 17 Feb. | 210. Shrewsbury, Tunstall and Sadler to Henry VIII.. |
| Add. MS. 32,656, f. 145. B. M. Hamilton Papers, ii., No. 406. |
Yesternight arrived Pate Grame with letters from Lennox and Wharton and other writings which, with letters from the Warden of the Middle Marches and from Robert Karre, second son to the laird of Farnyherst, are sent herewith. The "secret affair" of which Wharton writes to Shrewsbury is the practice against Anguisshe and George Dowglas ordered by the Council's letters of 7 Jan. Ask his pleasure concerning Wharton's desire to know whether to let home the lord of Dummelyer. Darneton, 17 Feb. Signed. |
| In Sadler's hand, pp. 2. Add. Endd.: 1544. | |
| Add. MS. 32,656, f. 147. |
2. "The sayings of Pate Greme" to the earl of Shrowesburie, lieutenant general in the North, 16. Feb. 1544. |
| B. M. Hamilton Papers, ii., No. 406(1). |
Left Carlell on Sunday, 8 Feb., with Robyn Scotte, laird of Waymffraye, who brought him to Pebulles on Wednesday night and on the morrow at Edenburghe obtained a passport for him; whereupon he came, on the Saturday afternoon, to the earl of Angwis's lodging in Edinburghe and delivered to Angwis the letters of Lenox and the Warden of the West Marches. Next morning he waited upon Angwis to the Friars and there saw the Queen kneeling to hear mass, the Governor, Cardinal, Mounterosse, Arguyle, Glankerne, Marchell and Bothwell standing by. Asked Glankerne, in his ear, whether he would be true man or false; who answered that he would be true and keep any promise he ever made to the King and for anything that Lenox could charge him with he would be tried by Angwis and Lord Wharton. On Sunday night Angwis told Pate Greme that, whereas he was called the King's foe, he loved the King best of all men and if Lenox would obtain a truce for two months to commune with his friends in Scotland, he should be made chief ruler in Scotland, for, having married the woman whom Angwis loved most in all the world, Angwis loved him entirely. Finally Angwis bade Greme show Lenox that, when George Douglas (who was ridden to meet the Warden of the Middle Marches) came home, he would send William Knockes to tell when he would be at Dunffrise: and so committed Greme to Robert Maxwell to conduct to Dunffrise. |
| Saw no more sit in the Privy Council but the Queen, Governor, Cardinal, Angwis, Arguyle and Mountrosse. Perceives that Angwis does not love Thomas Busshop. On Monday, at Edenburghe, spoke with Lord Flemyng, Oliver Sayntclere, the laird of Moncrife, the lord Craye and the master of Erskine, who said that they would enter, but appointed no time; and Moncrife sent a letter to his son, being his pledge in England. Left Edenburghe on Tuesday afternoon with Robert Maxwell, whose man, Joke a Douglas, remained behind to speak with the Queen; but, as she departed at 7 next morning, he could not do so and followed his master to Dunffrise, where he declared that three French ships were arrived at Lythe haven and at the end of March 30,000 men were coming out of France, for whom money was already come to Besse Scott's house in Deape. By the way, Robert Maxwell said that the Queen and Governor promised him great wages to incline to their part, but he put them off with fair words until he might speak with his father, Lord Maxwell. If his father might come to Carlell and speak with him he would obey him and gladly aid Lenox or any another; provided that he knew before the middle of March whether his said father should come to Carlell. | |
| Hol., pp. 2. | |
| 17 Feb. | 211. Carne to Paget. |
| R. O. | On the 13th arrived Andrew Doria's nephew, called John Doria, in post, to know (as is said) the Emperor's pleasure for "equipage of his galleys this year against the Turk." Rumor is that Orleans shall not have the Emperor's daughter and these countries, but the King of Romans' daughter and Milan; and that the King of Romans' second son shall have the Emperor's daughter and these countries. The Landgrave of Hesse has taken prisoners the duke of Brunswyke's two brothers, viz., the count of Odenborughe and bp. of Breme. If Paget thinks anything of the above worthy the King's knowledge he may report it. "The arrest is not yet discharged here." Bruxelles, 17 Feb. Signed. |
| P.1. Add. Endd.: 1544. | |
| 17 Feb. | 212. Chr. Mont to Paget. |
| R. O. St. P., x 288 |
Two days ago a gentleman of this town received letters from the Hessian prince, with the Saxon answer, which is that, after so many vain missions of ambassadors heretofore, he is averse to trying again. Many of the best men disagree with this untimely prejudice, now that the Bishop of Rome is writing and raging against both. The Hessian, who, like a prudent man, sees both the King and the Protestants in like case and would have them join against the common enemy, is in despair. The Diet is carried on in the German manner, and, while everything is protracted till the Emperor's coming, the Turk makes his preparations. It is reported that the Turk will make war in Hungary this year with a vast army. The scarecrow (terriculamentum) of the Council of Trent is becoming despised, and many think that the late writings (fn. n1) of the Roman bishop are either supposititious or falsely procured because of the more than pontifical pride and impudence of the demands. Keeps away from Worms still, because of the expense; and the Hessian journey has emptied his pockets. Commendations to Paget's colleague Petre! Strasburg, 17 Feb. 1545. |
| Lat. Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.: 1544. | |
| [17 Feb.] | 213. J. De la Brousse to the Queen of Scotland. |
| Balcarres MS., iii., 119. Adv. Lib. Edin. |
Since he last wrote the King has come to Paris, where La Crois is, who has delivered your money to Puiguillon, who has also delivered it to Mons. de Lorges in the writer's presence. Your mother no doubt writes of a conversation she had with the King about Giant (Gien). She spoke to me about the conversation I had with you at Esterlin (Stirling) on taking leave. I replied I should be all my life ready to do what you and she commanded. It only remains to tell the King when an opportunity occurs. Has spoken to Mons. de Curee who has great desire to do her service, as he no doubt writes, but he fears the passage of the sea in time of war, especially for women. Mademoiselle de Fouguion is not here. I have omitted nothing of the rest of the memoire, but you cannot be answered promptly. I have given a copy of it to Madame and shown everything to Mons. de Rains, who has been named to go to the Council if they send thither. Paris, "ce jour de Caresme preignant." |
| Hol. Fr., pp. 2. Add., A la Royne d' Escosse. Endd. | |
| 17 Feb. | 214. Vargas to Covos. |
| Spanish Calendar viii. No. 12. |
The Pope is liberal with fair words respecting the enterprises against the Turk and the Protestants, but will not allow the sale of monastic property in Spain without cousulting the Cardinals. He is determined to assist France, war with the King of England being as praiseworthy as with the Turks, and will as long as possible avoid doing anything for the Emperor. Brussels, 17 Feb. 1545. |
| 18 Feb. | 215. War Expenses. |
| A set of warrants from the Privy Council, each addressed to the Treasurer and Chamberlains of the Exchequer. | |
| R. O. | 1. To deliver upon the bill or bills subscribed by the bp. of Winchester, Sir John Gage, Sir Ric. Riche, Ant. Rous and John Rither, or any two of them, for provisions for Calais and Boleyn, 2,000l. st. Westm., 18 Feb. 1544. Signed by Wriothesley, Norfolk, Essex, Westminster, St. John and Browne. |
| P. 1. Add. | |
| R. O. | 2. To deliver upon the bill or bills subscribed by lord St. John for provisions for the navy in the Narrow Seas, 2,000l. st. Westm., 18 Feb. 1544, Signed by Wriothesley, Suffolk, Russell, Essex, Westminster, Gage, Browne, and Wyngfeld. |
| P. 1. Add. | |
| R. O. | 3. To deliver to bearer, John Wynter, treasurer for the sea matters, in prest, 1,000l. st. Westm., 18 Feb. 1544. Signed by Wriothesley, Suffolk, Russell, Essex, Westminster, Browne and Wyngfeld. |
| P. 1. Add. | |
| R. O. | 4. To deliver to bearer, John Giraldy, in part payment of such money as he delivered last year to the King's use in Flanders, 1,500l. Westm., 18 Feb. 1544. Signed by Wriothesley, Suffolk, Russell, Essex, Westminster, St. John, Gage, Browne and Wyngfeld. |
| P. 1. Add. | |
| R. O. | 5. To deliver to bearer, Bartholomew Compaigny, in part payment of money delivered last year in Flanders to the King's use, 5,000l. st. Westm., 18 Feb. 1544. Signed by Wriothesley, Suffolk, Russell, Essex, Westminster, St. John, Gage Browne and Wyngfeld. |
| P. 1. Add. | |
| 18 Feb. | 216. The Privy Council to Shrewsbury and Sadler. |
| R. O. Shrewsb. MS. A., p. 289. Heralds' College. |
The King sends by bearer, Wm. Brackenburye, to be delivered to you, Mr. Sadleyr, 5,000l. "wherewith we doubt not but you will use good husbandry." Westm., 18 Feb. 1544. Signed by Wriothesley, Suffolk, Russell, Essex, Westminster, Browne, Petre, Bakere. |
| P. 1. Add. | |
| 18 Feb. | 217. Wotton to Paget. |
| R. O. St. P., x. 289. |
I thank you for the good news of Boleyn, which I heard before but not perfectly. The French ambassador impudently maintains that it is false, and that the Frenchmen are still fortifying the other side of the haven. A herald named Snowden, calling himself the Scottish Queen's herald, is come for safe-conduct for a Scottish ambassador, (fn. n2) who shall be here within two days, and came from Scotland into France. To believe Granvele's words when I was last with him, this ambassador is like to do no good. The duke of Alburquerque sent me word that Messir Ludovico degli Armi makes soldiers for the King upon the Venetians' lordship; which the French ambassador required them to forbid, but was answered that they would not only suffer men to be gathered for the King, but serve him themselves. Has heard the same news of others, and that it came from the Viceroy of Sicily. Signor Jennottino d'Auria is come hither in post for money for his galleys, and says that Guasto has sent for his wife from Naples to Milan, from which some gather that Guasto will shortly depart out of Milan. Has sent again to Granvele, who said that he had declared the matter to the Emperor and the Council had sat upon it, and Wotton should have answer shortly. The Cardinal of Meudon went to Lovayn for pastime, whereupon the Council here desired the French ambassador to show him that he should not have gone out of this town without the Emperor's leave. The ambassadors of Savoy and of Genoa have, successively, brought him one John Baptista Spinola, as a very experienced man of war, who offers to serve the King with 1,000 men. He says he hears of others in Italy taking up men for the King, who, by reason of the bp. of Rome's excommunication and the like, may not get their full number, whereas he is so well acquainted among the soldiers that he doubts not to get as many as shall be appointed him. He will bring cunning masters to make ships and galleys. He delivered the memorial herewith. Wotton said to the ambassador of Genoa that he had heard of the French king's sending to Genoa to hire ships. The ambassador replied that the French king had indeed sent, and the Signory had answered that they had none, but would not object to his hiring them from any private owners. Told him it ought not be suffered, but he answered that as neutral they could not refuse ships to either France or England, and begged Wotton to consider how they lay to France and must dread the French king's displeasure. He said that the French king had hired six great ships and no galleys. The voice goes that the Cardinal of Lorayne, after playing tennis, drank a cup of drink and "suddenly died." Bruxelles, 18 Feb. 1544. |
| Pp. 3. Add. Endd. | |
| R. O. | 2. Spinola to [Wotton]. |
| Captain Giovanes Baptista Spinola requires the mediation of your Lordship for acceptance of his services by the English king, whom he offers to serve with 1,000 Italian soldiers. He has had experience of maritime affairs and could bring shipbuilders. He wishes an early answer as he has other practices which he will not conclude until he hears from the King. | |
| Latin, p. 1. Endd.: Jhon Baptist Spinola[s] bille. | |
| 19 Feb. | 218. Henry VIII. to Sir George Douglas. |
| R. O. St. P., v. 415 |
Whereas lately, at a meeting held, by his desire, with Sir Ralph Evre, he wished forgiveness for seeking the favour of the Queen, Governor and Cardinal, and offered to be at the King's command, and declared that the Queen and Governor and other noblemen desired safe-conduct for ambassadors authorised to offer such things as would content the King; informs him that all the world knows how much the King has done for him and his brother, and how ill they have requited it; yet, as the Warden reports his desire for pardon and to hear from the King, his Majesty, trusting that Douglas will serve better henceforth and will cause his brother to leave the office of lieutenantship, is content to pardon the past and restore him to favour. As to the coming of ambassadors and the bruit that the King means to conquer the realm and make its noblemen shepherds, although he has had just occasion to seek extreme revenge of their disloyal proceedings, that bruit is devised by such as rather wish their destruction than any good way between these two realms. God has already somewhat plagued that realm and is likely to plague it more. The King was never so desirous of revenge but that, to such as submit and seek to redubbe the past, he could be content to use clemency, and this Douglas may notify; and, if the marriage and the establishment of peace is really meant, and, within 8 or 10 days after receipt of this letter, commissioners are sent, he will grant safe-conduct to any two or three to come to Anwyke, so that Douglas be one of them and the other two reasonable and well disposed men. When the King's lieutenant is advertised of those that shall come (with 20 persons in their company) fully authorised by Governor, Queen and Parliament to conclude upon the said purposes (wherein the King looks for more substancial hostages and larger conditions than were agreed to when those who are now his enemies were his friends) a safe-conduct shall be sent to his said lieutenant with a blank for the insertion of their names, and commissioners appointed to commune and conclude with them at the said town. Unless it be meant to work sincerely none should be sent, for a practice to win time would only discredit them for ever and provoke the King's displeasure the more. |
| Draft, corrected by Paget, pp. 11. Endd.: M. The Kinges Mate to Sr George Doug[las], xixo Febr. 1544. | |
| R. O. | 2. Earlier draft of the above in Paget's hand. |
| Pp. 4. Endd.: M. to Sir George Duglas from the King's Mate. | |
| 19 Feb. | 219. The Privy Council to Sir Ralph Evers. (fn. n3) |
| Shrewsb. MS., A., p. 285. Heralds' College. Stevenson's "Selections," 17. (Maitl. Club.) |
The King has seen your late letters to my lord Lieutenant and a discourse in writing sent therewith (showing your proceedings with Sir George Douglas, and his desire, on behalf of the Governor and the rest, "for ambassadors to come to treat,") and also that of Sir George requesting favour again. His Majesty much commends your wisdom. His answer to Sir George appears by the copy herewith, and the letter is to be conveyed and answer procured with speed, for, as you shall advertise Sir George, he does not intend to tarry long delays. If an abstinence during the time of treaty is suggested you shall answer that you think not good to move it to the King, nor would advise them to do so; for, as all their proceedings heretofore have tended to delays and the substance of this treaty is not new, but has already been maturely debated, a request for abstinence would suggest that "there is nothing meant but only delay." They may soon go through with things, as the place appointed for their meeting is so near and the King's commissioners shall come fully instructed. This point touching abstinence you need not speak of unless Sir George or others seek it. Westm., 19 Feb. 1544. Signatures (copied) of Wriothesley, Suffolk, Essex, Lisle, Westminster, Gage, Browne and Wyngfelde. |
| Copy, pp. 2. Address (copied): To, etc., Sir Raf Eure, knight, lord warden of the Myddle Marches. Endd. by Shrewsbury.. | |
| 19 Feb. | 220. The Privy Council to Shrewsbury. |
| Shrewsb. MS, A. p. '291. Heralds' College, |
Send a letter from the King to Sir George Douglas and another from themselves to Sir Ralph Eure by which, and by the copy of the other, he will see that the King grants safe-conduct for the coming of ambassadors. Upon knowing who shall come, the safe-conduct shall be sent and also commission and instructions to Shrewsbury, Durham and Sadleyr to commune with them. The letters are to be forwarded to Sir Ralph with diligence. Upon the humble suit of the Tyvydayll men who serve the King for wages, such as the other side give to their enemies, his Majesty is pleased that Shrewsbury, with the advice of the wardens, shall take order for giving the same. Westm., 19 Feb. |
| P.S.—Mr. Brakenbury is this day despatched towards you with 5,000l. Signed by Wriothesley, Suffolk, Essex, Lisle, Westminster, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Paget. | |
| P. 1. Add,: lieutenant general in the North Parts. | |
| R. O. | 2. Draft of the preceding in Petre's hand. |
| Pp. 2. Endd.: M. to therle of Shrewesbury, — — (blank) Februarii, 1544. | |
| ii. Draft of Henry VIII.'s letter to Charles V. in Paget's credence (see No. 224). | |
| P. 1. | |
| 19 Feb. | 221. Guisnes. |
| R. O. | Warrant of the Privy Council to the Treasurer and Chamberlains of the Exchequer to deliver bearer, Wm. Harvye, to be conveyed to Guisnez and delivered, by indenture, to Thos. Palmer, esquire, or his deputy, for wages of the crew and other things in his charge, 5,000l. st.; and for his costs in conveying it 40l. Westm., 19 Feb. 36 Henry VIII. Signed by Wriothesley, Suffolk, Russell, Essex, Westminster, St. John, Gage, Browne, Wyngfeld, and Paget. |
| ii. Subscribed as delivered the same day "by me James Joskyn" 3,040l. and "by me Roger Chaloner" 1,000l. | |
| P. 1. Add. | |
| 19 Feb. | 222. Shrewsbury, Tunstall and Sadler to Henry VIII. |
| Add. MS. 32,656, f. 150. B. M. Hamilton Papers, |
Send letters received from the Wardens of the East and Middle Marches and from Sir Ric. Lee, being now at Tynmouth, together with a letter and certain articles addressed to the King by George Douglas. Darneton, 19 Feb. Signed. |
| ii., No. 407. | In Sadler's hand, p. 1. Add. Endd.: 1544. |
| 19 Feb. | 223. Carne to Paget. |
| R. O. | As Wotton's despatch will report the suit of the Scots and proceedings touching the arrest, Carne writes only "for excusing of negligence." This day Grandvell departs towards Germany. Hears from a good place that the Emperor, for confirmation of the peace with the Frenchmen, has within this six days made his declaration concerning the marriage with Orleans "and that it is kept very privy." Bruxells, 19 Feb. signed. |
| P. 1. Add. Endd. | |
| [20 Feb.] | 224. Henry VIII. to Charles V. |
| R. O. | Despatches his secretary Paget to communicate things of importance concerning the amity and prays the Emperor to give him credence either apart or jointly with Dr. Wotton, "aussi notre conseiller et ambassadeur resident les vous, si par indisspos' de son corps ne soit empeche." |
| French. Draft in Paget's hand, p. 1. Written on the back of No. 220(2). | |
| 20 Feb. | 225. Henry VIII. to Mary of Hungary. |
| R. O. St. P., x. 295. |
Credence for Messire Wm. Paget, his Councillor and Premier Secretary, whom he now sends to the Emperor. Westm., 20 Feb. 1544. |
| Copy. French, broadsheet, p. 1. Endd.: M. The K's Mate to the Regent. | |
| 20 Feb. | 226. Henry VIII. to Granvelle. |
| Spanish Calendar, vii. 40. |
Desires favour for Paget, now sent to treat certain points with the Emperor. Westm., 20 Feb. 1544. |
| 20 Feb. | 227. Paget's Instructions. |
| R. O. St. P, x. 295. |
"First, the said Sir William Paget" shall repair in post to the Emperor's Court, communicate these instructions to Dr. Wootton, ambassador resident there, and, with him, obtain audience of the Emperor (or, "in case of his grievous malady," of the Queen or Granvele); and shall say that, whereas Wootton lately read to the Emperor certain matters of importance, with request for answer therein and release of the arrest of Henry's subjects and goods there, but no answer is yet had and the arrest remains, upon the doleances of his subjects and to know what thing it is that the Emperor says he has "so often willed his ambassador to move us in and get none answer," Paget is sent to declare how much the Emperor's proceedings, ever since his peace with France, have grieved Henry, his ancient and approved friend, and to require him, seeing that he and his principal ministers say that he means to observe the treaty with Henry, to show this by deeds and let things pass in the order prescribed by that treaty, which at its making was thought plain enough, "howsoever some folks list to wrest it at their liberty." |
| Here Paget shall pause for an answer. | |
| In case that answer is that the Emperor means to keep, and has kept, the treaty, Paget shall ask what of the arrest? And, repeating the case, shall say that certain of the Emperor's subjects' ships going to the enemy were arrested lawfully, as Henry thinks, and even if it were otherwise the treaty gives no leave to grant reprisal (and Paget shall declare the order prescribed by the treaty), yet, immediately upon the coming of Tourcoyn, Henry discharged all that were arrested and delivered their goods, as the ambassadors affirm that they have divers times written. Paget shall therefore require him to release the arrest there, and, if any of his subjects complain of want of justice here, let the order prescribed by the treaty be observed; signifying that, in case he will release the arrest he (Paget) is charged to remain there four or five days to see the despatch of it; for Henry can wait no longer for a resolute answer therein, having himself done more than the treaty requires, and if put off further with fair words cannot but think that the Emperor intends to break with him, in which case God will judge between them; and Henry requires him to deal like a prince of honor and order, as Henry will do, that subjects on both sides may have reasonable time to depart with their goods, seeing that not long ago he blamed the French king for suddenly breaking out with him. In case the answer is that the ambassadors have not advertised the discharge here, or that, until the matters of the Spaniards, or Gasper Douche or others, are determined, "the rest can not be discharged"; to answer the first point, Paget knows "what answers the ambassadors here have often made in that," and to the second he shall say that Henry has discharged all for which, according to Turcoyn's credence, the arrest there was made, and to bring in new matters and keep Henry's agents and subjects as hostages is another thing, and of another sort than either honor, amity or the treaty can justify. And here Paget shall "dilate" Arras's proceedings and Henry's answers and the Emperor's entertainment of his enemies with "jouyssances" while he was in extreme war, and doing nothing that might induce the enemy to come to accord. In case the answer is "a plain denial of the delivery of th'arrest until restitution be made of everything that can be claimed here," Paget shall demand whether the Emperor intends to rest upon that answer, and, if so, shall "engreve" the want of reason and justice therein, and say he is sorry to take such a message to his master, who will be right sorry to hear it, especially for the blemish to the Emperor's honor, which shall be noted throughout the world when it appears how unkindly he deals with Henry, who has dealt so friendly with him in all his necessities; and shall then take his leave and return. But in case the answer is ambiguous, as hitherto, such as "we will see, we will speak with our Council, or will take an order in it and we mind no breach of amity," etc., Paget shall say that he marvels to hear them say they will keep the amity when their deeds declare the contrary; for besides this arrest, and that intercourse and traffic between the subjects and provision of munitions and victuals should not be empeached, their subjects should be suffered to serve Henry, and his men of war should have passage through the Emperor's countries, none of which things are observed. By the treaty, an enemy to one should be enemy to the other, and yet he delays to declare the French king enemy; and Henry is not so ignorant but that he can see the cause, viz., that, having to do with the Turk, he would be loth to fall out with the French king, of whom he trusts to have some aid, and, having now got peace, leaves Henry (who only entered the war for his sake and might have had an honorable end by leaving him in the briars, "which we never went about, and that did the French ambassadors testify in the presence of his own ambassadors Chapuys and Curriers") in war without making any effort to bring him peace or truce. True, the French commissioners and Henry's assembled together with his; and at the outset the French commissioners said that they would have Boulloyn rendered or talk no further; and so departed, without his commissioners opening their lips to move the French to reasonable conditions, for Henry means not to render that thing, and neither the Emperor nor his commissioners would counsel it. But, since then, which is four months and more, although pressed to re-enter the war, according to the treaty, when he should either have driven the enemy to offer reasonable conditions or to send ambassadors for peace, he has done nothing. If the answer is that the Emperor would, if he thought that Henry would be content, labour for a peace or truce, Paget shall say that Henry has never meant to refuse reasonable offers and, so as Bullen were not touched, would doutless accept reasonable conditions extending only to him and the French king and their dominions. If then they offer to send to the French king, Paget shall answer that, although he has no commission to ask that, he thinks that it would show an intention of doing something for Henry; and shall add, if he obtains it, that, if he thought the answer would not be long in coming and if they advised it, he would be bold to tarry here till the answer came out of France, trusting that if the enemy condescend to reasonable conditions the Emperor will without delay declare against him. | |
| As Granvele, who has heard that Henry has conceived an ill opinion of him, shall either complain or excuse himself, Paget shall say that albeit the Emperor's subjects bruit, and credible persons in the Emperor's Court report, that he was the only worker of this peace with France, having received in reward the lordship of Enghuien and also, now at his being in Burgundy, as much plate as was esteemed at 10,000 cr., and that, although the arrest was made in his absence, the Emperor's determination to resolve upon it was altered at his return, and that, as he, who held such authority, has done so little for the continuance of the amity, Henry had vehement presumptions to suspect him, yet, seeing that he has purged himself to the ambassador there, Henry accepts his purgation, praying him hereafter so to deal that the world may judge by the doings of the minister the affection of the master, for it is well known that the Emperor does use his advice in weighty affairs. | |
| Draft corrected by Paget, pp. 46. Endd.: M. Mr. Secr. Mr. Pagetes instructions for his journey to th'Empereur, xxo Febr. 1544. Headed: "Instructions." | |
| R. O. | 2. Fair copy of the above, from which it is printed in the State Papers. Signed at the head. |
| Pp. 11. Headed: "Instructions given," etc. | |
| 20 Feb. | 228. Provisions for Calais and Boulogne. |
| R. O. | Warrant to the Treasurer and Chamberlains of the Exchequer, upon the strength of the Council's letter of 18 Feb. 1544, for payment of bills signed by Winchester, Gage, Riche, Rous and Rither, towards provisions for Calais and Bullen, to deliver John Lynge, of Lambyth, husbandman, 120l. towards the provision of mill horses to serve in Bullen. 20 Feb. 1544. Signed by Gage and Ryther. |
| P. 1. Add. | |
| R. O. | 2. Like order for payment to John Love and John Lawnede of 500l. towards the provision of oxen for victualling. 20 Feb. 1544. Signed. |
| P. 1. Add. | |
| 20 Feb. | 229. Wotton to Henry VIII. |
| R. O. St. P., x. 291 |
On the 19th inst. was sent for by Granvele, with whom he found Score. After excuses for not sending for him sooner, Granvele gave the answer to the two points of which he had spoken, viz.:— |
| 1. That the Princes of Germany, seeing that the Great Turk was coming into Hungary, required the Emperor to command (as he intended to do) that no person should go to serve any foreign potentate, and that Italians, whether with or without passport, would be set upon by the Dutchmen; and, therefore, the Emperor's Council thought it not expedient to grant any passport, and could not find that the Emperor was bound to grant any. He said also that Italians were neither hardy nor faithful, and would do great hurt wherever they came. Score added that Italians would infect Henry's subjects with their abominable vice. As for lanzknechts, they said, the Emperor had found Netherlanders more active and willing than Overlanders, but, if Henry would have Overlanders, and would send them by sea, the Emperor would wink at it. Wotton replied that it was too evident that the Emperor was bound to grant the passport, that the captains would see that the soldiers did no hurt, that the Emperor's winking would be to little purpose if once the commandment was made, that men were already retained in Italy and tarried only for the passport, that the Frenchmen would have both lanzknechts and Italians without passport, and the like. But they persisted that they had declared the Emperor's answer. | |
| 2. For the arrest Score made the answer, viz., that the Emperor's subjects were not delivered as Wotton had said, but some of them found their goods sold without their knowledge and others were refused theirs, that the Emperor desired to know how in future his subjects might pass safely, and that the Spaniards of Burgos and Jasper Duchy could not get justice in England; and, therefore, the Emperor is not advised yet to dissolve the arrest here, but, as some of his subjects' ships are come away, he will release the ships and shipmen, and is content to remove the arrest generally on the merchants giving caution, as he had before declared to Wotton, or else every merchant giving caution for himself and his goods. Wotton replied that his information was received from the King's Council, and he wondered that any man would certify the contrary, but, as this was the Emperor's answer, he would report that, until all the Emperor's subjects were at liberty and satisfied, and order taken for the future, and they of Burgos and Jasper Duchy had their demands, the Emperor would not remove the arrest. "Nay, not so, quod Granvele, but, to avoid inconveniences in time to come," it were well to know how the Emperor's subjects should act. And as for the Spaniards and Jasper Duchy, quod Score, the first might be settled in two hours and in the second the King commanded restitution to be made. Wotton answered that he knew nothing of these matters, for which the arrest had not been made, and that they here might not usurp upon Henry's jurisdiction, and that even if they were expressly denied justice, the treaty prescribed another way, and, as for the caution, he had no commission therein. Score said that the Emperor intended not to usurp upon the King's jurisdiction, but having laboured for the restitution of his subjects' goods, it was reason that he should have answer. Replied that the goods were stayed in England where the cognition of the reason of their staying pertained to Henry. Finally they will not yet dissolve the arrest, except for ships and mariners, unless under caution, and Wotton did not press them to go through with that for ships and mariners lest he should seem to allow their doings therein. Granvele said that, two days past, a Scottish herald came for safe-conduct for a Scottish ambassador who was at Cambray; but the Emperor sent to the French ambassador to show him that, the Scots being at war with Henry, he might not by the treaty have any conference with them. And this the Emperor wished Wotton to know because he would have him privy to all proceedings. Bruxelles, 20 Feb. 1544. Signed. | |
| Pp. 4. Add. | |
| 20 Feb. | 230. Wotton to Wriothesley. |
| R. O. | Cannot obtain the safe-conduct of the King's soldiers. These men counsel the King to use no Italians or Overlanders, but Netherlanders, of whom there are plenty to be gathered in Westphalia and embarked. "And thereat (they say) they will wink, but if the Frenchmen go about to take up any, thereat they say they will not wink; whereby lo! you may see that secretly they are much our friends, but, indeed, it is so secretly that few or none do [know] or perceive it." Because Granvele leaves to-day or tomorrow and they have sat late in Council every day, "it is thought that the declaration of the alternative of the marriages is done"; but it is yet kept secret. Bruxelles, 20 Feb. 1544. |
| Hol, p. 1. Add. Endd. | |
| 20 Feb | 231. Wotton to Paget. |
| R. O. | In communication about the safe-conduct, told Score that they did wrong always to allege Landenberghe's doings, as they knew that the fault was not the King's. He replied that the King's Commissioners swore not to depart from Maestricht till they performed their promise to the lanzknechts; and yet did depart, and therefore the country of Luike was fain to pay them certain money, which was now demanded of the Queen. In talking of conveying soldiers, "Score made an exclamation almost as long as a declamation, saying that we need never look to be served of any ships of theirs, for the masters would rather go to prison than go to serve us, so ill, they say, they were handled and paid when they served us." Thus he shows his good mind towards us. Granvele says that they will not receive the Scottish ambassador, but, if they work not bona fide, no Scottish ambassador need come as long as there is a French ambassador here. Granvele goes to Wormes today or tomorrow. Bruxellis, 20 Feb. 1544. |
| Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd. | |
| 20 Feb. | 232. Vaughan to Paget. |
| R. O. | Yesterday arrived a hoy out of England, the master named Peterson, who filled all this town with a robbery of him and other merchants by our ships. They complain that they are boarded, "that they be more roughly dealt with than dogs, their money robbed and taken from them with exceeding evil language, and all to buffeted and beaten." Here such scorn is taken of these dealings that it may grow to a greater matter. Certain persons in the said hoy, who were sent by the King to Gelderland to take up men for the wars, had their money taken. "Before this new clamor came we were yet in some good hope to be released shortly, but now I doubt in it." Andwerp, 20 Feb. |
| Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd: 1544. | |
| 20 Feb. | 233. Bishopric of Elphin. |
| R. O. | Note that in Consistory, 20 Feb. 1545, the Pope provided to the church of Elphin, void by the death of Bernard Ydonail or of George Bran, John (fn. n4) bp. of Cork and Cloyne, who is kept out of that promotion by schismatics. |
| Lat. Modern transcript from the Vatican. | |