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Veneris, 21 die Maii; Anno 11 Georgii IV ti Regis, 1830.
PRAYERS.
Ireland-Returns, presented: Consolidated Fund. No. 437.
THE House being informed that Mr. Johnson, from the Office of the Chief Secretary for Ireland, attended at the door, he was called in; and at the bar presented to the House, pursuant to their Orders,-An Account of all sums of Money advanced out of the Consolidated Fund, on the recommendation, or with the sanction, of the Irish Loan Commissioners; the purposes or terms for which lent; the rate of Interest for Principal and Sinking Fund; the nature of the Security required and taken; to whom and when issued; the Re-payments on each separate Loan, for each and every year, for Principal and Interest.
First Fruits (Ireland.) No. 438.
A Return to an Order of the House, dated the 27th day of April last, for an Account of any sum of Money advanced by the Commissioners of First Fruits, from the revenue intrusted to their care, for the purchase, or in diminution, of the rent reserved on Glebe Land procured for the parish of Ballymaglasson, in the diocese of Meath in Ireland, about the year 1818; and also, of any sums of Money issued from the said Funds, by way of gift or loan, for the erection of a Glebe House in the said parish at the same time; specifying the terms on which such Glebe Land was acquired, and, if by lease, the duration of the lease; together with a Statement whether said Glebe Land and House are now in the possession of the present incumbent of said parish, or of what other person:-And then he withdrew.
Ordered, That the said Account and Return do lie upon the Table; and be printed.
Report of Dovor Improvement Bill, considered.
The House proceeded to take into further consideration the Report from the Committee on the Bill to amend two Acts of his late Majesty for paving, cleansing, lighting and watching the Town of Dovor, and for removing and preventing Nuisances and Annoyances therein; and the Amendments made by the Committee to the Bill, being read a second time, were agreed to by the House.
Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be ingrossed.
North Level Drainage Bill, passed.
A Motion being made, That the ingrossed Bill for improving the Drainage of the Lands lying in the North Level, part of the Great Level of Fens called Bedford Level, and in Great Portsand, in the Manor of Crowland, and for providing a Navigation between Clows Cross and the Nene Outfall Cut, be now read the third time;
Lord Viscount Lowther, by His Majesty's command, acquainted the House, That His Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Bill, gives His consent, as far as His Majesty's interest is concerned, that the House may do therein as they shall think fit.
Then the Bill was read the third time; and an ingrossed Clause was added, by way of rider; and several Amendments were made to the Bill.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass: And that the Title be, An Act for improving the Drainage of the Lands lying in the North Level, part of the Great Level of the Fens called Bedford Level, and in Great Portsand, in the Manor of Crowland, and for providing a Navigation between Clows Cross and the Nene Outfall Cut.
Ordered, That Mr. Chaplin do carry the Bill to the Lords, and desire their concurrence.
Queen's Ferry Improvement Bill, passed.
An ingrossed Bill for the further improvement and support of the Passage across the Firth of Forth, called the Queen's Ferry, was read the third time.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass.
Ordered, That Mr. Downie do carry the Bill to the Lords, and desire their concurrence.
Amendment to Southwold Haven Bill, agreed to.
The House proceeded to take into consideration the Amendment made by the Lords to the Bill, intituled, An Act for more effectually improving the Harbour of Southwold, in the County of Suffolk; and the same was read; and is as followeth;
Pr. 70. 1. 13. Leave out (Clause A.) annexed to the Bill.
The said Amendment, being read a second time, was agreed to by the House.
Ordered, That Sir Thomas Gooch do carry the Bill to the Lords; and acquaint them, that this House hath agreed to the Amendment made by their Lordships.
Ashborne and Belper Road Bill, passed.
An ingrossed Bill for more effectually repairing the Road from Ashborne, in the County of Derby, over Belper Bridge, to the present Turnpike Road from Sheffield and Chesterfield to Derby, at or near a place called Openwood Gate, and from Belper Bridge to Ripley, in the County of Derby, was read the third time.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass: And that the Title be, An Act for more effectually repairing the Road from Ashborne, in the County of Derby, to a Messuage or Publichouse in the occupation of John Frost, near Belpar Bridge, in the said County of Derby.
Ordered, That Mr. Mundy do carry the Bill to the Lords, and desire their concurrence.
Petitions against Perth Navigation Bill.
A Petition of George Young, Deacon of the Glover Incorporation of Perth;-of John Wright, Dean of Guild of the Guildry Incorporation of the city of Perth;-of James Craigdallie, Convener of the Convener Court of Perth, consisting of the Representatives of the Incorporated Trades of Perth;-of Charles Scott, present Deacon, and Thomas Taylor, present Boxmaster of the Wright Incorporation of Perth;-of George Pentland, senior, present Deacon, and James Stobie, present Boxmaster, of the Hammermen Incorporation of Perth;-and, of John Graham, Deacon of the Shoemaker Incorporation of Perth,-were presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill for enlarging, improving and maintaining the Port and Harbour of Perth; for improving the Navigation of the River Tay to the said City; and for other purposes therewith connected; and praying, That the same may not pass into a law as it now stands.
Ordered, That the said Petitions do lie upon the Table.
Chapeaurouge's Nat. Bill, reported and passed.
Mr. Alderman Thompson reported from the Committee on the ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for naturalizing Philip Augustus De Chapeaurouge; That they had examined the allegations of the Bill, and found the same to be true; and had gone through the Bill, and had directed him to report the same to the House without any Amendment; and the Bill was read the third time.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass.
Ordered, That Mr. Alderman Thompson do carry the Bill to the Lords; and acquaint them, that this House hath agreed to the same, without any Amendment.
Rawlings's Estate Bill, committed.
An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for vesting the legal Estate in certain Estates late of Ann Budgen, formerly vested in Elizabeth Pedder, deceased, in mortgage in Edward Rawlings, the present Mortgagee and Trustee of the equity of redemption thereof, was read a second time; and committed to Mr. Alderman Thompson, &c.: And they are to meet this Afternoon, in the Speaker's Chamber.
Game Bill, deferred.
The Order of the day being read, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to consolidate and amend the Laws in England relative to Game, and to authorize the sale of Game;
Resolved, That this House will, upon Wednesday the 2d day of June next, resolve itself into the said Committee.
Report on Baul's (Limerick) Bridge Bill, considered.
The House proceeded to take into further consideration the Report from the Committee on the Bill for the Improvement of the Shannon Navigation from the City of Limerick to Killaloe, by rebuilding the Bridge called Baal's Bridge, in the said City; and the Amendments made by the Committee to the Bill, being read a second time, were agreed to by the House.
Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be ingrossed.
Courtown Harbour and Railway Bill, passed.
An ingrossed Bill to amend an Act passed in the fifth year of the reign of His present Majesty, for the completing the Harbour of Courtown, near Brenoguehead, in the County of Wexford, was read the third time.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass.
Ordered, That Mr. Spring Rice do carry the Bill to the Lords, and desire their concurrence.
Report of Garnkirk Railway Bill, considered.
A Motion being made, That the Report which, upon Thursday the 13th day of this instant May, was made from the Committee on the Bill for amending certain Acts for making the Glasgow and Garnkirk Railway, and for improving, maintaining and rendering Turnpike the Road leading from the said Railway near Broomhill, by Keppoch Bridge to the Town Head of Glasgow, be now taken into further consideration:-And the House being informed that printed Copies of the Bill, as amended by the Committee, were delivered at the door, to the Members of the House, upon Friday last, pursuant to the Standing Order;
Ordered, That the Report be now taken into further consideration:-The House accordingly proceeded to take the Report into further consideration; and the Amendments made by the Committee to the Bill, being read a second time, were agreed to by the House.
Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be ingrossed.
Port Glasgow Harbour Bill, reported.
Mr. Archibald Campbell reported from the Committee on the Bill for improving the Harbour of Port Glasgow, constructing a Wet Dock or Wet Docks adjacent thereto, and for altering the Road leading from Port Glasgow to Glasgow, near the said Harbour; and to whom the Petitions of Magistrates and Councillors of the town of Greenock, and of Merchants and Inhabitants of the town of Greenock; and, of the Provost, Baillies, Treasurer and Councillors of the royal burgh of Dumbarton, were referred; that they had considered the second-mentioned Petition, and that no person appeared in support of the first-mentioned Petition; and that they had examined the allegations of the Bill, and found the same to be true; and had gone through the Bill, and made several Amendments thereunto; and the Report was brought up, and read.
Ordered, That the Report do lie upon the Table.
Highgate Chapel Bill, reported.
Mr. Curteis reported from the Committee on the Bill to enable the Wardens and Governors of the Possessions, Revenues and Goods of the Free Grammar School of Sir Roger Cholmeley, Knight, in Highgate, to pull down their present Chapel, and to contribute towards the erection of a new Chapel or Church in Highgate, and for other purposes; and to whom the Petition of the Churchwardens and Trustees for building a New Church and Parochial Chapel for the parish of Saint Pancras, in the county of Middlesex, was referred; That they had heard counsel in support of the said Petition, and had also heard counsel in favour of the Bill; and that they had examined the allegations of the Bill, and found the same to be true; and that the Parties concerned had given their consent to the Bill, to the satisfaction of the Committee; and that they had gone through the Bill, and made several Amendments thereunto; and the Amendments were read, and agreed to by the House.
Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be ingrossed.
Petition against Grazier's (Ireland) Steam Company Bill.
A Petition of the Proprietors of the steam vessel the George the Fourth, sailing, in conjunction with the steam vessel called the Lord Blayney, between the port of Liverpool, in the county of Lancaster, and the port of Newry, in the county of Down, in Ireland, under the designation of "The Liverpool and Newry Steam Navigation Company," was presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill for regulating and incorporating a Company in Ireland, to be called "The Irish Graziers Steam Marine Company;" and praying, That they may be heard by their counsel or agents against certain parts thereof.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.
Graziers (Ireland) Steam Company Bill, committed.
Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the second reading of the Bill for regulating and incorporating a Company in Ireland, to be called "The Irish Graziers Steam Marine Company," be now read; and the same being read:-The Bill was read a second time; and committed to Mr. O'Connell, &c.: And they are to meet this Afternoon, in the Speaker's Chamber.
Sunderland Haven Bill, passed.
An ingrossed Bill for enlarging the powers of several Acts relating to the Improvement of the River Wear, and of the Port and Haven of Sunderland, in the County Palatine of Durham, was read the third time.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass: And that the Title be, An Act for the Improvement and Preservation of the River Wear, and Port and Haven of Sunderland, in the County Palatine of Durham.
Ordered, That Mr. Liddell do carry the Bill to the Lords, and desire their concurrence.
Petitions against introduction of Poor Laws into Ireland.
A Petition of the Landed Proprietors of the county of Fermanagh;-and, of the Noblemen, Gentlemen, Clergy and Freeholders of the county of Cavan,-were presented, and read; praying the House to reject any Bill for the introduction of Poor Laws into Ireland, convinced as the Petitioners are that such a measure, instead of conducing to the happiness of that country, would be most injurious to it.
And the said Petitions were ordered to be referred to the Select Committee on Irish Poor.
Petitions against Assimilation of Stamp Duties.
A Petition of John Gregsten, of Enniskillen, Proprietor and Printer of a Weekly Newspaper, intituled, The Impartial Reporter, or Fermanagh Farmer's Journal;-and, of Members of the Benevolent Society of Kilkenny,-were presented, and read; praying the House not to increase the present rate of Stamp Duties, which the Petitioners conceive, instead of increasing the revenue, will be the means of causing considerable decrease in that branch of it.
And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table.
Petition against Inventory Duty leviable in Scotland.
A Petition of Writers, Merchants, Traders and Traffickers in the royal burgh of Brechin, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners understand it is in contemplation to revise, consolidate, modify and reduce the existing Stamp Duties of the United Kingdom, a measure which cannot fail, from the known hardship, inconvenience and expense attendant on several branches of the present Stamp Laws, to give universal satisfaction; complaining of the present heavy Duty, and the vexatious manner in which that Duty, called Inventory Duty, on the moveable estates of persons deceased, has hitherto been ascertained and levied in Scotland, and of the Duty at present exacted on the protesting of Small Bills, and on Mortgages or Heritable Securities, and assignments thereof; and praying the House to give such relief in the permises as to the House may seem meet.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.
Northern Roads Bill, presented. No. 435.
Lord Viscount Morpeth presented a Bill for the improvement of the Roads from London to Edinburgh, and from London to Portpatrick; and for the further improvement of the Roads from London to Holyhead, and from London to Liverpool: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time upon Friday next.
Ordered, That the Bill be printed.
Petition against Constabulary (Ireland) Bill.
A Petition of the Magistrates of the Queen's County, was presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill to amend certain Acts relating to Constables in Ireland; and praying, That the same may not pass into a law.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.
Petition against Renewal of East India Charter.
A Petition of Manufacturers of Earthenware and others, at Swadlincote and Church Gresley, in the county of Derby, and Ashby Woulds, in the county of Leicester, was presented, and read; praying, That the House will be pleased to adopt such measures as will prevent a renewal of the Charter to the East India Company, or to take such other steps as will best relieve the Petitioners and the British nation from the present monopoly of the China and India Trade.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Select Committee on East India Company's Affairs.
Registrar at Madras Bill, deferred.
The Order of the day being read, for the second reading of the Bill for the Relief of the Representatives of Persons who have died intestate in the Presidency of Madras in the East Indies, and for the Relief of the Suitors of the Supreme Court of Judicature at Madras aforesaid;
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time upon Monday next.
Ordered, That the United Company of Merchants trading to the East Indies be heard by their counsel upon the second reading of the said Bill.
Motion respecting Debate on Galway Franchise Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the adjourned Debate upon the Motion made upon Wednesday last, That the House do agree to the Amendments made by the Committee to the Bill to repeal so much of an Act passed in Ireland, in the fourth year of the reign of King George the First, for the better regulating the Town of Galway, and for strengthening the Protestant Interest therein, as limits the Franchise created by the said Act to Protestants only, be resumed upon Monday next.
Embankments (Ireland) Bill, deferred.
Resolved, That this House will, upon Thursday next, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill for making and preserving Embankments on the sides of Rivers in Ireland.
Petitions for abolishing Slavery.
A Petition of the Minister and Congregation of the Wesleyan Chapel, Tunstall Court, in Staffordshire;-and, of Members of the Congregation assembling in Brunswick Chapel, Shelton Potteries, Staffordshire, of the Independent denomination, were presented, and read; praying, That the House will take the case of the Slaves into their earliest and most earnest consideration; and that they will not permit any motives of mere expediency to turn them from imparting the justice required at their hands by bringing about the freedom of the Slaves in the most wise, speedy and effectual manner.
And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table; and that the last be printed.
County Rates Bill, presented. No. 436.
Mr. Henry Maxwell presented a Bill to regulate the Applotment of County Rates and Cesses in Ireland in certain cases: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time upon Tuesday next.
Ordered, That the Bill be printed.
Petition for repeal of House and Window Tax.
A Petition of Inhabitants of Liverpool, was presented, and read; complaining of the Taxes on Houses and Windows; and praying for the abolition thereof.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.
Petition against Poor Removal (Irish and Scottish) Bill.
A Petition of the Rector, Vestrymen, Churchwardens and Overseers of the Poor, and Inhabitants, of the parish of Saint James, Westminster, was presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill to alter and amend several Acts relating to the Removal of Vagrant and Poor Persons born in Scotland and Ireland, and chargeable to Parishes in England; and praying, That they may be heard by their counsel or agents against the same.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.
Petitions for Revision of Laws respecting Vagrants.
A Petition of His Majesty's Justices of the Peace acting in and for the county of Buckingham, in Quarter Sessions assembled;-and, of the Acting Magistrates for the county of Cumberland,-were presented, and read; praying for a repeal of the laws allowing Scotch and Irish paupers to be removed by passes, and that they be put upon the same footing with those from distant parts of England; or, if it should be thought inconsistent with the humane policy of our laws to make such alterations until a system of Poor Laws has been established in the countries to which such paupers belong, then that the expense of removing and passing through English counties such paupers to Scotland and Ireland respectively, be borne by the public at large, and paid out of the general revenues of the United Kingdom, or by separate charges on Scotland and Ireland respectively, and not by the English counties through which their road happens to lie.
And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table; and to be printed.
Petition for repeal of Malt and Beer Duties.
A Petition of Inhabitants of Beckley and Northiam, was presented, and read; praying for a repeal of the Duties on Malt and Beer.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.
Petition for repeal of Duty on Hops.
A Petition of the Hop Planters of Wadhurst, was presented, and read; praying the House to repeal the Duty on Hops.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.
Petition against allowing growth of Tobacco in this Kingdom.
A Petition of Tobacco Manufacturers of Alnwick, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners view with great anxiety and just alarm the proposed measure to allow the growth of Tobacco in this Kingdom, as it will afford the illegal dealer the fullest opportunity ever offered of defrauding the revenue to an unlimited extent in a variety of ways; and praying the House to abandon a measure which appears to the Petitioners prejudicial to the revenue, demoralizing to the people, and injurious to the fair trader.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Select Committee on Tobacco Cultivation.
Petition respecting limitation of Law of Arrest.
A Petition of Bankers, Merchants and Traders of Huntingdon, was presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill for the more effectual Administration of Justice in England and Wales, whereby it is intended to prevent the arrest of a debtor for any sum under 100£. except under special circumstances; and praying, That the House will refuse to sanction the proposed alteration.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.
Petition for general establishment of Turnpike Laws in Ireland.
A Petition of the Grand Jury of the county of Fermanagh, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners, having taken into their consideration the present state of the law respecting the cesses imposed upon their county for making and repairing the public roads thereof, are unanimously of opinion, that the present system causes an oppressive impost upon the occupiers of land; inasmuch as the expense does not fall upon the consumer, but upon those who, from local and other circumstances, derive but little comparative advantage from the heavy tax they are obliged to contribute; they therefore beg leave humbly to suggest to the House, that one mode of diminishing the manifold grievances affecting their local taxation would be, to adopt such measures as in their wisdom may be deemed expedient for establishing general Turnpike Laws throughout Ireland.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.
Petition against Sale of Beer Bill.
A Petition of Licensed Victuallers and Publicans in the counties of Norfolk and Cambridge, was presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill to permit the general Sale of Beer by Retail in England; and praying, That the same may not pass into a law.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.
Petition in favour.
A Petition of Inhabitants of the city of Ely, in the county of Cambridge, was also presented, and read; taking notice of the said Bill; and praying, That the same may pass into a law.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.
Petition for reduction of Duties on Soap.
A Petition of Manufacturers of Soap in London, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners are now, and have long been, labouring under the almost overwhelming pressure of the present Duty on hard Soap, an article of the very first necessity for the health and comfort of the people, and the largest consumption of which is amongst the poorer classes of the community; the Petitioners beg to represent to the House the advantage to the public which would follow a reduction of the Duty on so important and necessary an article, and further would add it respectfully as their opinion, that the revenue would not suffer to the amount of that reduction, more particularly were the reduction carried far enough to put an end to smuggling, and were all drawbacks (save that on exportation) and allowances, whatsoever abolished, and were the revenue impartially collected throughout the Kingdom.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.
Petition respecting Duty on Spirits.
A Petition of Farmers frequenting Bury market, in the county of Suffolk, was presented, and read; praying, That a Duty corresponding with the proposed increase of Duty on Corn Spirits may be at the same time imposed upon Rum.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.
Petition complaining of Medicine Stamp Duty.
A Petition of Chemists and Druggists of Lynn Regis, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners approach the House respectfully to complain of the vexatious and injurious operation and ruinous effects of the Medicine Stamp Act on their retail trade; that the grievances of which the Petitioners complain are mostly to be ascribed to a departure from the original principle of the Act of the 23d of his late Majesty, the chief objects of which law were to affix a revenue mark on advertised patent medicines, nostrums, and secret preparations, and thereby enable the public to discriminate between such preparations and the authorized officinal, and also to distinguish quacks and ignorant pretenders from those who, by education and apprenticeship, had derived the qualification of skill from discipline, for engaging and practising in the sale of drugs and medical preparations; that the Petitioners humbly call the attention of the House to the Schedule of Medicines, which they understand is shortly to be brought before the House, in which are introduced many articles which may be made by legal sophistry to embrace all the officinal preparations or articles of the Pharmacopoia; so that the Petitioners will not be able to sell many medicines and drugs of well-known and longapproved character, whose reputation has been established for ages, and which are articles of regular commerce in every part of the Kingdom, without exposing themselves to informations, penalties, and prosecutions; and praying, That the House will take their case into consideration, and grant them such relief as the House may deem expedient.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.
Motion respecting Debate on Standing Orders-Birmingham and London Junction Canal Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the adjourned Debate upon the Motion made upon Tuesday last, That every Subscription List required to be deposited in the Private Bill Office of this House do contain the Christian and Surnames, and places of abode, together with a description of the quality or calling of the Subscribers to the work, and the Sums by them respectively subscribed, be resumed upon Monday the 7th day of June next.
Ordered, That the adjourned Debate upon the Motion made upon Thursday last, That no Bill in respect of which a Subscription List is required to be deposited in the Private Bill Office (except Turnpike Road Bills) be read a second time, unless one-half of the Sum required for the probable expense of the work shall have been subscribed by persons under a Contract, binding themselves, their Heirs, Executors, Administrators and Assigns for the payment of the Money so subscribed, and that such Contract be deposited in the Private Bill Office before the second reading of any such Bill, and be produced before the Committee on the Bill, if required, be resumed upon Monday the 7th day of June next.
Report, &c. respecting Exchequer Court, ordered.
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Copy of the Report of the Committee of the Lords Commissioners of His Majesty's Treasury appointed to inquire into certain offices in the Court of Exchequer, dated 25th November 1824.
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return of all the Salaries, Fees, and Emoluments received during the year 1829, by each person holding office in any of the different departments of the Court and Receipt of Exchequer (excepting those holding judicial offices); distinguishing the sources from which the same are derived, together with the names of all persons holding such offices, and the total of the annual charge.
Ireland-Accounts, ordered: Printing, &c.
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Detailed Account of the nine items contained in an Estimate of the Charge of Printing, Stationery, and other Disbursements of the Chief and Under Secretary's Offices and Apartments, and other Public Offices, in Dublin Castle, &c.; and also, for Riding Charges and other Expenses of the Deputy Pursuivants and Messengers attending the said Offices; also, Superannuated Allowances in the Chief Secretary's Office; from 5th January 1830 to 5th January 1831.
Record Commission.
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Detailed Account of the Estimate of the sum necessary for paying the Salaries and Expenses of the Record Commission in Ireland, for six months, to 5th July 1830.
Petition relative to Calico Printers' Apprentices.
A Petition of Journeymen Calico Printers of Lancashire, Derbyshire, Cheshire, Yorkshire and their vicinities, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners have for several years past been distressed for want of employment, arising from a practice of the master Calico Printers carrying on their trade by employing a greater number of Apprentices than Journeymen; that, in consequence of this, and of the late introduction of machinery (by which the number of Apprentices, the Petitioners humbly submit, ought rather to be diminished than increased), the Petitioners, and the greater part of the journeymen Calico Printers, are continually out of employment, in the greatest distress, and obliged to resort to their several parishes for relief; and praying, That the House will cause inquiry to be made concerning the allegations contained in their Petition, and redress their grievances by such legislative enactments as the House may devise.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.
Poor Removal (Irish and Scottish) Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Bill to alter and amend several Acts relating to the Removal of Vagrant and Poor Persons born in Scotland and Ireland, and chargeable to Parishes in England, be read a second time upon Wednesday next.
Petition for Revision of Bankrupt Laws.
A Petition of John Thomas Church, of Great Jamesstreet, Bedford-row, Middlesex, Clerk of Inrolments in Bankruptcy, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioner humbly ventures to suggest to the House, that in the Bill submitted to Parliament to supply an omission in an Act of the sixth year of His present Majesty, for amending the Laws relating to Bankrupts, there should be some further enactment respecting inrolment of proceedings, from the omissions of the Statute of the 6 Geo. 4, as well as from the obvious inconvenience of its provisions; it is presumed, from the 96th section of the present Act, that the object of the Legislature was to ensure an entire registry of every commission, and of those legal instruments under it which affect the property of the bankrupt; for this purpose the Act seeks to improve upon the preceding Act of the 5 Geo. 2, c. 30, by compelling an inrolment of the commission, adjudication, assignment and certificate, and by leaving it open to parties to inrol these instruments, without the necessity of a Petition for the purpose; to compel the inrolment, the Act declares that the instruments shall not, until inrolled, be admissible in evidence; but it is submitted, that this provision is inconvenient, first, because it is found that the penalty is insufficient to ensure compliance with the Act, for none of the instruments are in practice inrolled until there is likely to be a necessity for using them in a court of justice, and thus no trace whatever of many commissions is to be found upon the records; and, secondly, because, as no time is allowed for the inrolment, and many cases may arise in which the necessity of giving these instruments in evidence may be unforeseen or immediate, to deny them admissibility may be attended with great prejudice and loss to innocent persons who have no power to compel their inrolment; it is presumed that some provision, refusing the costs and expenses of these instruments to the solicitors of the petitioning creditor and assignees, unless they have been previously inrolled, will be a more just and efficient penalty; the omissions of the present Statute on the subject of inrolment, are material; 1. since the time when the now existing Act came into operation, it has been unnecessary to make any inrolment of bargains and sales of bankrupts' estates; Mr. Eden, as the Petitioner considers, has run into error upon this subject; a bargain and sale is an assurance well known as the proper instrument for the execution of a common-law power or authority; such a power was and is vested in the Commissioners of Bankrupt, and this mode of assurance was adopted by them, not out of convenience in respect of its cheapness, as Mr. Eden supposes in his work on Bankruptcy, but from its being the legal mode of conveyance which was appropriate to the nature of their authority; such an instrument is perfectly distinct from the bargain and sale of an use under the Statute of Henry the Eighth, and it is not proper to bankruptcy alone, but is of frequent occurrence, as, for example, when a man devises that his executor shall sell his lands; the Statutes, therefore, of 13 Eliz. c. 7, s. 2, and the 21 Jac. 1, c. 19, s. 12, expressly provided that all bargains and sales in bankruptcy should be inrolled, and the provision was necessary, but these Acts are wholly repealed by the present Statute, which, Mr. Eden says, has left bargains and sales to the provisions of the Statute of Henry the Eighth; it is quite clear it has left them without the necessity of being inrolled at all, but as this instrument is, above all other proceedings, the most necessary to be inrolled, some clauses to supply this omission should be inserted in the present Bill, and also to keep the record of the proceedings under a commission one and entire; 2. another omission of the present Statute upon this subject is, that whereas the 41st section of the 5 Geo. 2, c. 30, which first directed the inrolment of proceedings in bankruptcy, provided, for the convenience of purchasers and other persons interested under them, that true copies of the record of such proceedings might be given in evidence; in the Statute of the 6 Geo. 4, there is no such provision, although it is conceived, that the same reasons exist for it, which suggested the convenience of such proceedings being recorded also suggest the utility of such a provision; the present Bill now before the House only partially meets this case; the preceding clauses follow the language of the existing section, and of the 5 Geo. 2, c. 30, except, that as the 96th section directs that the instruments shall be inrolled on the application of "any party," which may be ambiguous, the Petitioner suggests that a new section should have the word "person;" the Petitioner begs leave to state, that the fees provided for the remuneration of the officer by the Statute of 6 Geo. 4 were inserted by mistake as to inrolling assignments, for which the Petitioner receives a fee of 2s. only, which, as the Petitioner records the whole document at length, he humbly conceives is no remuneration for the trouble and responsibility of his office; that in many instances the assignments are so long, that the mere expense to the Petitioner of transcribing these documents by a writing clerk exceeds the fee paid to the Petitioner for the inrolment; and praying the House to take the above matters into their consideration.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.
Half-Pay Apprentices Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Bill to prevent the taking and employment of Apprentices usually denominated Half-Pay Apprentices, be read a second time upon Monday next.
Returns from Court of Chancery, ordered.
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return, stating the Names of all the Individuals composing the establishment of the Court of Chancery, including therein a list of the Judges, Masters, Registers, Clerks and other Officers belonging to, or dependent upon, the three Courts of the Lord Chancellor, Master of the Rolls, and ViceChancellor, with the total amount of their respective Incomes; distinguishing each head of Income, whether arising from Salaries, Fees, Perquisites or other Allowances, upon an average of the last five years.
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return of all the Causes now fully heard, and waiting for judgment, in each of these Courts; stating the title of each Cause, the date on which such Cause was first brought into Court, and the length of time, in days, months or years that has elapsed since they have been severally completely heard.
Petitions for repeal of Parish Vestries Act (Ireland.)
A Petition of Inhabitants of Saint Paul, in the city of Cork;-of Youghal;-of Creagh, in part of the parish of Abbeystroury, including the town of Skibbereen;-of Innishannon;-of Lower Glanmire, in the county of Cork; -and, of Saint Ann Shandon, in the city of Cork,-were presented, and read; reciting the Act 7 Geo. 4, c. 72, for the regulation of Parish Vestries in Ireland; and praying, That the same may be repealed.
And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table; and, except the first, to be printed.
Petition for continuing Bounty on Herring Fishery.
A Petition of Persons engaged in the Herring Fishery at Great Yarmouth, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners have sustained great losses in the above fishery during the last few years, owing to the ruinously low prices obtained for their fish, and the impossibility of further reduction in the cost of catching and curing them, and can only look forward to the abandonment of the said fishery as the means of averting the ruin of themselves and families, unless they should receive the support and encouragement of the House; and praying the House to continue the small Bounty allowed (of 1 s. per barrel) on cured herrings exported, and which, if not renewed, expires this year.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.
Member added to a Committee.
Ordered, That Mr. Ridley Colborne be added to the Committee on the Bill for the Regulation of Parish Vestries, and for lighting and watching Towns in England and Wales.
Petitions complaining of the Corporation of Londonderry.
A Petition of John Sheehan, of the city of Londonderry; -and, of Francis Horner, Freeman and Inhabitant of the city of Londonderry,-were presented, and read; complaining of the conduct of the Corporation of the city of Londonderry in the misuse and misappropriation of the corporate funds of that city in various and sundry acts of litigation and peculation; stating the particulars of their case; and praying the House to institute a strict and impartial investigation into the circumstances of the same, in order that the said Corporation, if innocent, may be relieved from the odium which a charge of peculation would bring upon them, and, if guilty, that their delinquency may receive that punishment which, while it will be a warning to future evil-doers, will demonstrate to the people the efficacy of a constitutional mode of redress.
And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table.
Returns, &c. presented: Fees of Sheriffs' Courts (Scotland.)
Mr. William Peel presented to the House, pursuant to their Addresses to His Majesty,-A Copy of the Table of Agents' Fees practising before the Sheriffs' Courts in Scotland.
Convictions for Forgery. No. 442.
A Return to an Address to His Majesty, dated 12 May 1830, for a Return of the number of Persons convicted of Forgery on the Bank of England, in each year, from 1791 to 1829 inclusive; distinguishing the capital convictions upon which executions took place, and the cases of mitigated punishment; the Return also to distinguish the Prosecutions for Forgery or passing Forged Notes and Post Bills, and the Forgeries connected with the Public Funds, Bills of Exchange or otherwise, so far as the same can be distinguished.
Clergy, Churches and Chapels.
A Return of the number of Parish Churches and Chapels, and Chapels of Ease, of the Church of England in each Diocese, and the total in England and Wales.
Returns, from the several Clerks of the Peace of England and Wales, of the number of Places of Worship, not of the Church of England, in each Parish (in their respective Counties); distinguishing, as far as possible, of what sect or persuasion, and the total number of each sect.
Twenty-fourth Abstract of the number and classes of Non-resident Incumbents, and of the number of Resident Incumbents, according to the Diocesan Returns for the year 1827.
Abstract of the total number of Curates in each Diocese returned by the Archbishops and Bishops to His Majesty's most honourable Privy Council, for the year 1827; distinguishing the number resident in the Parsonage-house and the number resident in the Parish; likewise, the number of those who are licensed, and the number of those who enjoy stipends arranged in different classes of £.10 and under £.20, £.20 and under £.30, £.30 and under £.40, &c. &c. &c.; also, the gross value of Livings where the Incumbents are non resident.
Ordered, That the said Returns do lie upon the Table; and that the Return respecting Forgery be printed.
Committee of Supply.
Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Supply granted to His Majesty, be now read; and the same being read;
And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair-
The Lords have agreed to
A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Stratford and Mr. Harvey:
Mr. Speaker,
The Lords have agreed to the several Bills following, without any Amendment; viz.
Bath Hospital Bill.
A Bill, intituled, An Act for altering and amending an Act passed in the twelfth year of the reign of his Majesty King George the second, for establishing and well-governing an Hospital or Infirmary in the City of Bath, and for constructing Baths therein, and supplying the same with Water, from the Hot Baths in the said City:
Stonehouse Mill Bridge Bill.
A Bill, intituled, An Act for erecting and maintaining a Bridge over Stonehouse Mill Pool, at or near Stonehouse Mills, in the County of Devon:
Carlisle and Penrith Road Bill.
A Bill, intituled, An Act for more effectually repairing the Road from Carlisle to Penrith, and from Penrith to Eamont Bridge, in the County of Cumberland:
Waterford Roads Bill.
A Bill, intituled, An Act for more effectually repairing several Roads leading from the Bounds of the County of Cork to the City of Waterford:
Kidwelly Inclosure Bill.
A Bill, intituled, An Act for inclosing Lands within the several Parishes of Kidwelly, Saint Mary in Kidwelly, Saint Ishmael and Pembrey, in the County of Carmarthen: And also,
Everton Church Bill, with Amendments.
The Lords have agreed to the Bill, intituled, An Act for endowing a Church in the Township of Everton, in the Parish of Walton-on-the-Hill, in the County Palatine of Lancaster, with some Amendments; to which Amendments the Lords desire the concurrence of this House:- And then the Messengers withdrew.
Committee of Supply.
And the Question being again proposed, That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair;
An Amendment was proposed to be made to the Question, by leaving out from the word "That" to the end of the Question, in order to add the words "there be laid before this House, a Copy of the Case submitted to the Law Officers of the Crown respecting the Customs Duty payable on Sugars brought to this Country in discharge of the Four-and-Half per cent. Duties, and their opinion thereon, according to which the Lords of His Majesty's Treasury have directed the amount of the Customs Duty on each Sugar not to be paid since the 25th March 1828" instead thereof.
And the Question being put, That the words proposed to be left out, stand part of the Question;
The House divided. | ||
The Noes went forth. | ||
Tellers for the Yeas, | Mr. Planta, | 78 |
Sir George Clerk: | ||
Tellers for the Noes, | Mr. Hume, | 32 |
Mr. Bernal: |
So it was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the main Question being put;
Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair: -The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee, that a sum, not exceeding Twenty-one thousand one hundred and thirty-five pounds, be granted to His Majesty, to defray the expense of the Establishment of the Penitentiary House at Milbank for the year 1830; and that the said Sum be issued and paid without any fee or other deduction whatsoever.
To report Progress, and ask leave to sit again.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Sir Alexander Grant reported from the Committee, That they had made a progress in the matters to them referred; and that he was directed by the Committee to move, That they may have leave to sit again.
Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, again resolve itself into the said Committee.
Committee on Sale of Beer Bill; No. 439.
Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to permit the general Sale of Beer by Retail in England, be now read; and the same being read:-The House resolved itself into the Committee.
(In the Committee.)
Bill read 1° to be read 2°.
Preamble postponed.
CLAUSE, P. 1. "Parties desirous of retailing Beer, shall take out a License:-Several Amendments made thereunto.
P. 2. 1. 24. Amendment proposed, and Question put: After "Excise" to insert "Provided always, That Licenses to be granted under this Act, during three years from and after the passing thereof, shall not authorize persons to sell Beer to be drunk or consumed on the Premises specified in such Licenses; and that all persons selling Beer to be drunk or consumed on the Premises, shall continue to be licensed according to the Act made in the ninth year of His present Majesty's reign, intituled, 'An Act to regulate the granting of Licenses to Keepers of Inns, Ale-houses and Victuallinghouses in England;'"the Committee divided.
Teller for the Yeas, Mr. Monck143.
Teller for the Noes, Mr. Dawson180.
Clause, as amended-agreed to.
Several other Amendments made.
Preamble read-and agreed to.
And the House having continued to sit till after twelve of the clock on Saturday morning;
Sabbati, 22 die Maii, 1830:
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Sir Alexander Grant reported from the Committee, That they had gone through the Bill, and made several Amendments thereunto.
Ordered, That the Report be now received.
reported.
Sir Alexander Grant accordingly reported from the Committee, the Amendments which they had made to the Bill; and the Report was brought up, and read.
Ordered, That the Report be taken into further consideration upon Monday next.
Ordered, That the Bill, as amended, be printed.
Accounts of Corn, ordered.
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, an Account, distinguishing the amount of Duty levied upon Corn imported from Foreign Countries from that levied upon Corn imported from British Possessions out of Europe, from 28th February 1829 to 28th February 1830 inclusive.
Ordered, That there be laid before this House a similar Account from July 1828 to 28th February 1829.
Usury Laws Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Order of the day, for taking into further consideration the Report from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill to alter several Acts relating to Contracts for the Loan of Money at Interest, be now read; and the same being read;
Ordered, That the Report be taken into further consideration upon Monday next.
Heritable Securities (Scotland) Bill, committed.
A Bill to facilitate the transference of Heritable Securities for Debt in Scotland, was, according to Order, read a second time; and committed to a Committee of the whole House for Monday next.
Court of Session (Scotland) Bill, deferred.
The Order of the day being read, for taking into further consideration the Report from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill for uniting the benefits of Jury Trial in Civil Causes with the ordinary Jurisdiction of the Court of Session, and for making certain other alterations and reductions in the Judicial Establishments of Scotland;
Ordered, That the Report be taken into further consideration upon Friday next.
Bankrupt Laws Bill, deferred.
The Order of the day being read, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to supply an omission in an Act of the sixth year of His present Majesty, for amending the Laws relating to Bankrupts;
Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.
Fees Abolition Bill, deferred.
The Order of the day being read, for taking into further consideration the Report from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill to abolish all Fees and Stamp Duties chargeable on the renewal of all Appointments, Commissions, Grants, Pensions and Patents consequent on the demise of the Crown;
Ordered, That the Report be taken into further consideration upon Monday next.
Arms (Ireland) Bill, deferred.
The Order of the day being read, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to regulate the Importation of Arms, Gunpowder and Ammunition into Ireland, and the making, selling and keeping of Arms;
Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.
Four Per Cent. Dissents Bill, committed.
A Bill to authorize the issuing of Exchequer Bills for the Payment of the Proprietors of Four Pounds per Centum Annuities in England and Ireland, who have signified their Dissent, under an Act passed in the present Session for transferring such Annuities into Three Pounds Ten Shillings per Centum Annuities, was, according to Order, read a second time; and committed to a Committee of the whole House for Monday next.
Almhouses Exemption Bill, deferred.
The Order of the day being read, for the second reading of the Bill for exempting the occupiers of Almshouses from Assessments for the relief of the Poor and other parochial Rates;
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time upon Monday next.
Capital Punishments (Scotland) Bill, committed.
A Bill to amend an Act passed in the ninth year of His present Majesty, to facilitate Criminal Trials in Scotland, and to grant further facilities in regard to such Trials, and to abridge the Period now required between the pronouncing of Sentence and execution thereof, in cases importing a Capital Punishment, was, according to Order, read a second time; and committed to a Committee of the whole House for Friday next.
Ecclesiastical Leases (Ireland) Bill, deferred.
The Order of the day being read, for taking into further consideration the Report from the Committee of the whole House on the Bill to amend the Laws respecting the Leasing Powers of Bishops and Ecclesiastical Corporations in Ireland;
Ordered, That the Report be taken into further consideration upon Monday next.
Ways and Means, deferred.
The Order of the day being read, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of Ways and Means for raising the Supply granted to His Majesty;
Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.
Deserted Children (Ireland) Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Report from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill for making provision, in certain cases, for the Relief and Maintenance of Deserted and of Illegitimate Children in Ireland, be taken into further consideration upon Monday next.
Constabulary (Ireland) Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Bill to amend certain Acts relating to Constables in Ireland, be read a second time upon Monday next.
Sheriffs (Ireland) Bill, deferred.
Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill for the better Regulation of the Office of Sheriffs of Counties in Ireland.
Sub-letting Act Amendment (Ireland) Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Report from the Committee of the whole House on the Bill to explain and amend an Act made in the seventh year of His present Majesty, with respect to the Assignment and Sub-letting of Lands and Tenements in Ireland, be taken into further consideration upon Monday next.
Lower Canada Legislature Bill, passed.
Ordered, That the ingrossed Bill to amend so much of an Act of the thirty-first year of his late Majesty, for making more effectual Provision for the Government of the Province of Quebec, be now read the third time:- The Bill was accordingly read the third time.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass.
Ordered, That Sir Alexander Grant do carry the Bill to the Lords, and desire their concurrence.
Poor Law Amendment Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the ingrossed Bill to prevent Abuses of the Poor Laws, by declaring and amending the Law relating to the employment and payment of Able-bodied Labourers from the Poor Rates, be read the third time upon Monday next.
Liability of Landlords Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the ingrossed Bill for the better rating Tenements under a certain Annual Value, be read the third time upon Monday next.
Criminal Returns Bill, passed.
Ordered, That the Bill to repeal an Act of the fifty-fifth year of his late Majesty, for procuring Returns of Persons committed, tried and convicted for Criminal Offences and Misdemeanors, be now read the third time:-The Bill was accordingly read the third time.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass.
Ordered, That Sir Alexander Grant do carry the Bill to the Lords, and desire their concurrence.
Labouring Poor Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Report from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill to promote the Employment of the Labouring Poor, by free hiring at fair and adequate Wages, be taken into further consideration upon Monday next.
Common Law Fees Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Bill for regulating the Receipt and future Appropriation of Fees and Emoluments receivable by Officers of the Superior Courts of Common Law, be read a second time upon Monday next.
Poor Rates Annuities Bill, presented. No. 440.
Mr. Wilmot Horton presented a Bill to direct certain Returns to be made to Parliament from Parishes in England and Wales, and to enable Parishes to raise Money for certain Purposes therein set forth, upon terminable Annuities charged on their Poor Rates: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time upon Thursday the 3d day of June next.
Ordered, That the Bill be printed.
Libel Law Amendment Bill, presented. No. 441.
Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer presented a Bill to repeal so much of an Act of the sixtieth year of his late Majesty King George the Third, for the more effectual prevention and punishment of blasphemous and seditious Libels, as relates to the sentence of Banishment for the second Offence, and to provide some further remedy against the abuse of publishing Libels: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time upon Thursday next.
Ordered, That the Bill be printed.
And then the House, having continued to sit till after two of the clock on Saturday morning, adjourned till this day twelve of the clock.