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Veneris, 12 die Februarii, 1830:
And a Motion being made, and the Question being put, That this House do now adjourn;
The House divided. | ||
The Noes went forth. | ||
Tellers for the Yeas, | The Marquis of Blandford, | 9. |
Mr. O'Connell: | ||
Tellers for the Noes, | Mr. Dawson, | 105. |
Mr. Planta: |
So it passed in the Negative.
Then the Order of the day being read:-The House resolved itself into the Committee; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Sir Alexander Grant reported from the Committee, That they had come to a Resolution, which they had directed him to report to the House.
Ordered, That the Report be received this day.
Lunatic Licensing Balances Bill, committed.
A Bill to authorize the transfer of certain Balances in the hands of the Clerks of the Peace of the several Counties of England and Wales, on account of Lunatic Asylums Licenses, was, according to Order, read a second time; and committed to a Committee of the whole House, for Monday next.
East Retford Bill, presented. No. 29.
Mr. Nicolson Calvert presented a Bill to prevent Bribery and Corruption in the Election of Burgesses to serve in Parliament for the Borough of East Retford: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time upon Friday the 26th day of this instant February.
Ordered, That the Bill be printed.
Ordered, That a printed Copy of the Bill, and Copy of the Order for reading the said Bill a second time, be served upon the Returning Officer for the Borough of East Retford.
Smugglers Families Maintenance Bill, presented. No. 30.
Lord George Lennox presented a Bill for the relief of Parishes from the expenses of maintaining the wives and families of men convicted under the Laws for the prevention of Smuggling, and sentenced to serve His Majesty in His Naval service: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time upon Monday next.
Ordered, That the Bill be printed.
And then the House, having continued to sit till half an hour after twelve of the clock on Friday morning, adjourned till this day.
Veneris, 12° die Februarii;
Anno 11° Georgii IV ti Regis, 1830.
PRAYERS.
Accounts from the Bank of England, presented. No. 32.
THE House being informed that Mr.Knight from the Bank of England, attended at the door, he was called in; and at the bar presented to the House, pursuant to the directions of several Acts of Parliament,-An Account of the amount of Balances of Sums issued for the payment of Dividends due and not demanded, and for the payment of Lottery Prizes or Benefits which had not been claimed, and which remained in the hands of the Governor and Company of the Bank of England on the there-undermentioned days, being those next before the issue from the Exchequer of Money for the payment of Dividends on account of the National Debt for each of the four preceding quarters respectively.
An Account of the Receipt and Expenditure of £.2,772,034. 15s. 6d. in one year, from the 7th January 1829 to the 5th January 1830, by the Commissioners appointed by the 26th Geo. 3, for the Reduction of the National Debt.
An Account of the amount of all Exchequer Bills or Treasury Bills and other Government Securities which have been purchased by the Governor and Company of the Bank of England, or on which any Sum or Sums have been lent and advanced for the public Service by the Governor and Company of the said Bank in the year ending the 5th day of January 1830; showing what amount of such Bills before the making up of this Account has been paid off and discharged, and the amount of such Exchequer Bills or Treasury Bills, or other Government Securities, which was in the hands of the Governor and Company of the said Bank on the 5th day of January 1830 aforesaid.
A Copy of all Applications made by the First Lord of the Treasury, or the Chancellor of the Exchequer, to the Governor and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England, for Advances to Government authorized by Parliament from the 5th January 1829 to the 5th January 1830; with a Copy of the Minutes of the Court of Directors thereon, and the Answer of the said Court thereto.
Mr. Knight also presented to the House, pursuant to their Order,-An Account of the amount of Advances made by the Bank of England to Government on Exchequer Bills and all other Securities, including Exchequer Bills, Deficiency Bills, Navy Bills, Victualling Bills, &c. at the there-undermentioned periods:-And then he withdrew.
Ordered, That the said Accounts and Papers do lie upon the Table; and be printed.
Fowey Writ.
Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do issue his Warrant to the Clerk of the Crown to make out a new Writ for the electing of a Burgess to serve in this present Parliament for the Borough of Fowey, in the room of the Honourable Robert Henley Eden, who, since his election for the said Borough, hath accepted the office of Steward or Bailiff of His Majesty's three Chiltern Hundreds of Stoke, Desborough and Bonenham, in the County of Buckingham.
Wenlock Writ.
Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do issue his Warrant to the Clerk of the Crown, to make out a new Writ for the electing of a Burgess to serve in this present Parliament for the Borough of Wenlock, in the room of the Honourable George Cecil Weld Forester, who, since his election for the said Borough, hath accepted the office of one of the Grooms of His Majesty's Bedchamber.
Hollinwood Road Petition.
A Petition of several Trustees for executing an Act for making and maintaining a Road from Hollinwood to Littleborough, and other Roads communicating therewith, in the county of Lancaster, was presented, and read; setting forth, That it would be of great public utility if powers were granted to vary and alter the intended line of Road by the said Act authorized to be made, and, in lieu thereof, to make the same commence from and out of the present Turnpike Road from Manchester to Oldham, at or near Werneth, within the Township of Oldham aforesaid, and proceeding from thence along the present Road by Coppice Nook and Westwood to Uin Nook, all within the township of Oldham aforesaid, and by making a piece of Road from thence to join the line of Road from Hollinwood to Dry Clough by the said Act authorized to be made at or about the place where the said last-mentioned line of Road will cross the Road leading from Maygate-lane, within Oldham aforesaid, to Chadderton, in the said county, and proceed from thence along the line by the said Act authorized to be made, to Dry Clough, within the township of Royton, in the said county; and that the Money borrowed on the credit of the Tolls cannot be repaid, nor the said Roads amended and kept in repair, unless the powers of the said Act are enlarged and the Tolls increased; and praying, That leave may be given to bring in a Bill for the same.
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill accordingly: And that Mr. Greene and Lord Stanley do prepare, and bring it in.
Monks Risborough Inclosure Petition.
A Petition of several Proprietors of lands in the parish of Monks Risborough, in the county of Buckingham, was presented, and read; setting forth, That there are within the said parish divers open fields and commonable and waste lands and grounds, and divers old inclosed lands and homesteads, which might be improved if inclosed, and exonerated from tithes; and praying, That leave may be given to bring in a Bill for the same.
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill accordingly: And that the Marquis of Chandos and Mr. Robert Smith do prepare, and bring it in.
Whitesheet Road Bill, committed.
A Bill for repairing the Turnpike Road from the top of Whitesheet Hill to the Wilton Turnpike Road, at or near Barford, in the County of Wilts, was read a second time; and committed to Mr. Wyndham, &c.: And they are to meet this Afternoon, in the Speaker's Chamber.
New Sarum Poor Petition, reported.
Mr. Wyndham reported from the Committee on the Petition of several of the Churchwardens and Overseers of the Poor in the city of New Sarum, in the county of Wilts, and of several Inhabitants of the said city; That the Standing Orders relative to Bills for the maintenance and employment of the Poor, had been complied with; and that they had examined the matter of the Petition; and the Report was brought up, and read.
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill for better assessing and recovering the Rates for the Relief of the Poor within the City of New Sarum, and enlarging the powers of an Act passed in the tenth year of the reign of his late Majesty King George the Third, intituled,"An Act for consolidating the Rates to be made for the Relief of the Poor of the respective Parishes of Saint Thomas, Saint Edmund and Saint Martin, in the City of New Sarum:" And that Mr. Wyndham and Mr. Benett do prepare, and bring it in.
Liverpool Docks Petition.
A Petition of the Trustees of the Liverpool Docks, was presented, and read; setting forth, That by virtue of several Acts of Parliament now in force, relating to the Liverpool Docks, and passed respectively in the 8th year of Queen Anne, the 3d year of King George the First, the 11th year of George the Second, the 25th, the 39th, the 51st, the 53d and the 59th years of his late Majesty, and the 6th and 9th years of His present Majesty, the Petitioners were authorized and empowered to construct and erect the several Docks, Basins, Quays and other works relating to the port and town of Liverpool in the said Acts mentioned; and the Petitioners have raised the whole of the monies by the said Acts authorized to be borrowed, and have expended, or have become liable to pay, the whole amount thereof, for the site of the intended new Dock, and in the repairs and general management of the existing Docks and Wharfs; and that the Petitioners have made considerable progress in the erection of the said new Docks and works, and it would be of great advantage if the same could be completed upon the scale of the arrangements now made for constructing the same; and it is requisite that the Petitioners should be enabled to borrow a further sum of money upon security of the said rates and duties, whereby they may proceed in the execution and completion of the said works with the dispatch required; and it would materially tend to the advantage of the Merchants and Traders of the said Port, and the use and management of the said Docks, if the said several Acts were amended and enlarged, and further and additional powers given; and praying, That leave may be given to bring in a Bill for the same.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to a Committee:-And it is referred to General Gascoyne, &c.: And they are to meet To-morrow, in the Speaker's Chamber; and have Power to send for persons papers and records.
Dorchester Road Bill, committed.
A Bill for repairing the Road from Wool Bridge to the Borough of Dorchester, in the County of Dorset, was read a second time; and committed to Mr. Bankes, &c.: And they are to meet this Afternoon, in the Speaker's Chamber.
Rickmersworth Road Petition.
A Petition of several Trustees for executing the Act for repairing, widening and improving the Road leading from the town of Rickmersworth, in the County of Hertford, through the Village of Pinner, by Harrow-on-theHill, in the County of Middlesex, to or near the Swan Public House at Sudbury Common, in the Turnpike Road leading from Harrow to London, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Money borrowed upon the credit of the Tolls cannot be repaid, nor the said Road be effectually amended and kept in repair, unless the term granted by the said Act be continued, the said Act repealed, and further and more effectual powers granted instead thereof; and praying, That leave may be given to bring in a Bill for the same.
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill accordingly: And that Sir John Sebright and Mr. Nicolson Calvert do prepare, and bring it in.
New Ross Market Petition.
A Petition of several Gentlemen, Merchants and Traders of New Ross, in the county of Wexford, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Inhabitants of the said town are much engaged in the Corn Trade; and the importance of a Market having been long felt as a matter of urgent necessity, a most extensive building was erected in the year 1817, for holding markets within the said town, and a weighmaster appointed for weighing corn brought for sale thereto; and that in consequence of the sale of corn in various places both in and in the vicinity of the said town, the said Market-place has become almost unfrequented; and no check being now left on the weighing of the corn sold, great frauds are continually practised, the farmers have deserted the markets, and the advantages proposed by the erection of the said Market-place rendered completely nugatory; and that, with a view to protect the fair dealer in and purchaser of corn, it is expedient to prohibit the sale of corn at any other place than in the said Corn Market-place, and also to establish other regulations for the same; and praying, That leave may be given to bring in a Bill for the same.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to a Committee:-And it is referred to Mr. Wigram, &c.: And they are to meet To-morrow, in the Speaker's Chamber; and have Power to send for persons papers and records.
Wootton Bassett Road Petition.
A Petition of several Trustees for executing the Act for repairing and maintaining the Road from Wootton Bassett, in the County of Wilts, to the two-mile Stone in the Turnpike Road from Swindon to Marlborough, in the said County, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Money borrowed on the credit of the Tolls cannot be repaid, nor can the said Road be effectually amended and kept in repair, unless the term granted by the said Act be further continued, the said Act repealed, and more effectual powers granted in respect thereof; and praying, That leave may be given to bring in a Bill for the same.
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill accordingly: And that Mr. Joseph Pitt and Sir John Astley do prepare, and bring it in.
Members added to a Committee.
Ordered, That Mr. Legh Keck, Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Cartwright, Mr. Hobhouse, Mr. Portman, Mr. Pendarves, and Mr. Home Drummond, be added to the Select Committee on Standing Orders.
Axmouth Harbour Petition.
A Petition of John Hothersall Hallett, of Stedcombe, in the county of Devon, Esquire, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioner is seised in fee of the Manor or Lordship of Axmouth, in the parish of Axmouth, in the county of Devon, and, as part thereof, of the lands on both sides of the river Ax, where the same flows into the sea; and that the Petitioner, about the year 1809, constructed a Harbour at his own expense on this property, near the mouth of the said river Ax, with a pier, quays and other works connected therewith, and hath since expended large sums of money in repairing and maintaining the said Harbour and works, and that the Petitioner, and divers other persons by his permission, have hitherto used and employed the said Harbour for the purposes of trade and commerce, and much public advantage has been derived therefrom; and that the Petitioner is desirous that the public should henceforth have the free and unrestricted use and benefit of the said Harbour, upon payment to the Petitioner and his heirs of such rates and duties as Parliament shall think a reasonable return for the use of his property, and for the money he has expended and may expend upon the works; and praying, That leave may be given to bring in a Bill for the same.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to a Committee:-And it is referred to Mr. John Wood, &c.: And they are to meet To-morrow, in the Speaker's Chamber; and have Power to send for persons papers and records.
Illusory Appointments Bill, presented No. 33.
Mr. Solicitor General presented a Bill to alter and amend the Law relating to Illusory Appointments: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time upon Monday the 22d day of this instant February.
Ordered, That the Bill be printed.
Property in Infants, &c. Bill, presented. No. 35.
Mr. Solicitor General presented a Bill for amending the Laws respecting conveyances and transfers of Estates and Funds vested in trustees and mortgagees, and for enabling Courts of Equity to give effect to their Decrees and Orders in certain cases: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time upon Monday the 22d day of this instant February.
Ordered, That the Bill be printed.
Lunatics Property Bill, presented. No. 34.
Mr. Solicitor General presented a Bill for consolidating and amending the Laws relating to Property belonging to infants, femes covert, idiots, lunatics, and persons of unsound mind: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time upon Monday the 22d day of this instant February.
Ordered, That the Bill be printed.
Liability of Real Property Bill, presented. No. 36.
Mr. Solicitor General presented a Bill for consolidating and amending the Laws for facilitating the Payment of Debts out of Real Estate: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time upon Monday the 22d day of this instant February.
Ordered, That the Bill be printed.
Contempt in Equity Bill, presented. No. 37.
Mr. Solicitor General presented a Bill for altering and amending the Law regarding Commitments by Courts of Equity for Contempts, and the taking Bills pro Confesso: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time upon Monday the 22d day of this instant February.
Ordered, That the Bill be printed.
Petitions for repeal of Malt and Beer Duties.
A Petition of Inhabitants of the city of Lincoln; and of several Owners or Occupiers of land, and Inhabitants within the hundreds of Tunstead and Happing, in the county of Norfolk, were presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners consider it their bounden duty to represent to the House the overwhelming distress which pervades the agricultural and manufacturing classes, and that unless the present urgent distress be speedily relieved, it must produce most disastrous consequences, hazardous to the peace and safety of the kingdom at large; and praying the House to investigate the state of the country, and to rectify, with firmness and vigour, the innumerable abuses which affect its prosperity; and, as a commencement, forthwith to repeal all the taxes upon Malt and Beer, and a greater part of the assessed taxes, thereby in some degree immediately relieving the distressed labourer and mechanic, and creating amongst the people of that class and themselves patience and hope under extreme privations.
And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table; and to be printed.
Petitions against renewal of East India Charter.
A Petition of several Merchants, Bankers, Ship-owners and Traders of the port of Plymouth; and, of several Merchants, Manufacturers and others interested in the trade and commerce of Manchester, were presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners are impressed with the important benefits that would result to the British Nation at large from an extension of commerce with China and British India, and which is fully proved by the great increase which has taken place in the trade with India since its partial opening in 1814; and praying that a Committee may be appointed forthwith to inquire into the present state of the trade with China and other Eastern countries, with the view to the admission of British subjects generally to a participation of the commerce of the Eastern part of the world; and further praying that the House will not allow the period to elapse which is by law required to give notice for the termination of the existing Charter of the East India Company.
And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table; and to be printed.
Petition for repeal of Parish Vestries Act (Ireland.)
A Petition of Inhabitants of the parish of Youghal, in the county of Cork, was presented, and read; reciting the Act 7 Geo. 4, c. 72, for the regulation of Parish Vestries in Ireland; and praying, That the same may be repealed.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.
Petition for repeal of Subletting Act (Ireland.)
A Petition of Inhabitants of the parish of Youghal, in the county of Cork, was presented, and read; reciting the Act 7 Geo. 4, c. 29, to amend the Law in Ireland respecting the Assignment and Sub-letting of lands in Ireland; and praying the House to repeal the same.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.
London Bridge and Fleet Market Petition.
The House being informed that the Sheriffs of the city of London attended at the door, they were called in; and at the bar presented to the House,-A Petition of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen and Commons of the City of London, in Common Council assembled:-And then they withdrew.
And the said Petition was read, reciting an Act of the 4th year of His present Majesty, and an Act of the last Session of Parliament, for the rebuilding of London Bridge, and for improving and making suitable Approaches thereto; and setting forth, That in order to build the said Bridge, and to carry the improvements authorized by the said Acts into effect, the Petitioners were authorized to borrow the sums required for forming and completing the said Bridge and the Approaches to the same, upon the credit of the Bridge-House Estates, and upon certain Duties upon Coals imported into the Port of London, now forming part of the fund called The Orphans' Fund; and that, for better carrying the said last-mentioned Act into execution, it appears to the Petitioners desirable to increase the fund for making the said Approaches, by authorizing the Petitioners to apply all or part of the duties, revenues and incomes composing the said Orphans' Fund, from and after the period when the present charges on that Fund shall have been paid and satisfied, to the abovementioned fund for making the said Approaches; and for the like purpose, also to continue the said duties, revenues and incomes for a limited time after the same shall be liberated from the charges to which they are now appropriated; and that towards the further augmentation of the said fund for making such Approaches, the Petitioners are desirous to be authorized to apply thereto one moiety of the net produce, after payment of the expenses which may arise from the tolls, rents and profits of Fleet Market, the property of the Petitioners; and that any surplus of the rents and profits of the estates called The BridgeHouse Estates, after the various charges thereon shall have been from time to time paid and satisfied, may also beneficially, the Petitioners conceive, be added to the said fund; and it will be necessary, in order to effect the alterations and improvements in and near Fleet Market, authorized to be executed by an Act passed in the 5th year of His present Majesty for the removal of Fleet Market, in the City of London, that the Petitioners should be empowered to raise a further sum of Money, and they are desirous of charging the same upon the before-mentioned Fund; and praying, That leave may be given to bring in a Bill for the same.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to a Committee:-And it is referred to Mr. Alderman Wood, &c.: And they are to meet To-morrow, in the Speaker's Chamber; and have Power to send for persons papers and records.
Fleet Prison removal Petition.
The House being informed that the Sheriffs of the city of London attended at the door, they were called in; and at the bar presented to the House,-A Petition of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Commons of the City of London, in Common Council assembled:-And then they withdrew.
And the said Petition was read, reciting two Acts of the 50th and 52d years of his late Majesty, for extinguishing all Rights of Common in, over and upon certain parcels of Land in Saint George's Fields, in the County of Surrey, as prevents the erecting buildings on certain parcels of land within a limited distance of the sides of such of the roads therein mentioned as abut thereon, and for improving Saint George's Fields aforesaid; and setting forth, That, in pursuance of the said Acts, certain of the lands therein described have been drained, improved, and in part built upon, and there still remains in the said District called Saint George's Fields, a vacant space of ground, being a part of the property vested in the Mayor and Commonalty and Citizens of the city of London, as trustees of the Bridge-House Estates; and that the buildings of the place of confinement called The Fleet Prison, are in a bad state of repair, and have, from various circumstances, become too circumscribed to contain properly the persons usually confined therein; and the said buildings, from their situation, are not capable of being enlarged or repaired but at a very heavy expense; and that the vacant space of ground aforesaid, in Saint George's Fields, is, the Petitioners conceive, well adapted for the erection of a place of confinement, from the airiness of the situation, and from its not being closely surrounded by buildings, as is the case with the present Fleet Prison; and it has been proposed to exchange the site of the said Prison for certain parts of the said ground in Saint George's Fields, in order that a new Prison may be erected thereon; and that there are certain roads passing across the ground on which it is so proposed to erect the said Prison, which it will be necessary to stop up, and some other roads will also thereby become less convenient than certain other roads in the vicinity, and may also, it is conceived, without disadvantage to the public, be discontinued; and praying, That leave may be given to bring in a Bill for effecting the same.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to a Committee:-And it is referred to Mr. Alderman Wood, &c.: And they are to meet To-morrow, in the Speaker's Chamber; and have Power to send for persons papers and records.
St. Katharine Dock Petition, reported.
Mr. Alderman Thompson reported from the Committee on the Petition of the Directors of the Saint Katharine Dock Company; That the Standing Orders relative to Bills for making Docks had been complied with; and that they had examined the matter of the Petition; and the Report was brought up, and read.
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to amend and alter two several Acts passed in the sixth and tenth years of the reign of His present Majesty, for making and constructing certain Wet Docks, Warehouses and other Works in the parish of Saint Botolph-without-Aldgate, and in the parish or precinct of Saint Katharine, near the Tower of London, in the County of Middlesex, and for enlarging and extending the powers and provisions of the said Acts: And that Mr. Alderman Thompson and Mr. Ward do prepare, and bring it in.
Beverley Road Petition.
A Petition of several Trustees for executing the Acts for repairing and widening the Road from Beverley, by Molescroft, to Kendell House, and from Molescroft to Bainton Balk, in the county of York, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Money borrowed on the credit of the Tolls cannot be repaid, and the said Road effectually kept in repair, unless the powers of the said Acts be enlarged, the Tolls increased, the said Acts repealed, and the powers and provisions thereof consolidated in one Act; and praying, That leave may be given to bring in a Bill for the same.
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill accordingly: And that Mr. John Stewart and Mr. Batley do prepare, and bring it in.
Petitions complaining of Agricultural Distress.
A Petition of Capel Cure, Sheriff of the county of Essex;-of Owners and Occupiers of land, Merchants and Tradesmen resident in the eastern division of the county of Essex;-and, of several Owners and Occupiers of land and others interested in Agriculture, of the parish of Tillingham, in the said county, were presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners beg to represent to the House, that the Agriculture and Commerce of the country are labouring under peculiar and unprecedented difficulties, which appear to increase so rapidly, that the Petitioners look forward to the future with the most anxious fears, apprehensive that some dreadful crisis may occur; they beg to declare, that the pressure is not confined to one class only, but that all the industrious classes alike suffer; commerce is embarrassed, and confidence destroyed, not in the integrity of men, but their ability to fulfil their obligations; stagnation often prevails in the markets, and sacrifices are daily made to meet existing engagements, while at the same time the want of employment and the reduced wages of the labourer are productive of grievous sufferings to them, and the poorhouses and gaols are crowded to an unprecedented degree; and praying the House to take the present alarming state of the country into their most serious consideration, and to adopt such measures as may be most conducive to the revival of its former prosperity.
And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table, and to be printed.
Reports and Papers referred to Committee on East India Company's Affairs.
Ordered, That the several Reports which, upon the 11th day of May and the 20th day of June 1810, upon the 21st day of June 1811, and upon the 10th and 22d days of April, and the 28th day of July 1812, were made from the Select Committees appointed to inquire into the State of the Affairs of the East India Company, and the Glossary to the Fifth Report which was presented to the House upon the 27th day of April 1813, be referred to the Select Committee appointed to inquire into the present State of the Affairs of the East India Company, and into the Trade between Great Britain, the East Indies and China.
Ordered, That the Papers relating to the Finances of the East India Company abroad and at home, and the Trade of India and China, which were presented to the House upon Tuesday last by His Majesty's Command, be referred to the said Committee.
East India Returns, ordered.
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return of the Establishments connected with the Civil Offices under each of the three Presidencies of Bengal, Madras and Bombay, showing the Number of Persons and the Expense attaching to each Establishment, as it stood on 1st May 1819 and on 1st May 1829; stating likewise the date of new Establishments, or of any considerable augmentations, and the reasons assigned for the same.
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return of all Civil Offices under each of the three Presidencies of Bengal, Madras and Bombay, with the Salary, and the amount and nature of any other Allowances annexed to each of such Offices, as they stood on 1st May 1817 and on 1st May 1827; and further stating, in regard to Offices which have been created, or of which the Salaries or Allowances have been augmented, since 1st May 1817, the date of such creation, and of such augmentation or augmentations, and the reasons assigned for each respectively.
Answer to Addresses.
Mr. Courtenay reported to the House, That their several Addresses of the 4th, 8th, 9th and 10th days of this instant February, and of yesterday, (that His Majesty would be graciously pleased to give directions, that the Papers therein mentioned might be laid before this House,) had been presented to His Majesty; and that His Majesty had commanded him to acquaint this House, That He will give directions accordingly.
Minutes of Evidence respecting Coin, presented. No. 31.
Mr. Courtenay presented to the House, pursuant to their Address to His Majesty,-A Copy of the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee for Coin at the Board of Trade at Whitehall on or about Saturday the 26th of April 1828.
Ordered, That the said Minutes do lie upon the Table; and be printed.
Accounts of Silk, ordered.
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, an Account of all Articles imported into, and exported from this Country, and brought into consumption, of Silk, or Silk mixed with other materials, wholly or in part made up; distinguishing them under their proper heads, and quantity thereof.
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, an Account of all Raw, Thrown and Manufactured Silks imported into and exported from this Country, and brought into consumption from 5th January 1829 to 5th January 1830; distinguishing the different descriptions of Silk, and the Countries from whence imported, with the amount of Duty paid thereon.
Report on Motion for Supply.
The Order of the day being read, for receiving the Report from the Committee of the whole House, to whom it was referred to consider of the Motion made upon Monday last, "That a Supply be granted to His Majesty;"
And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That the Report be now received;
An Amendment was proposed to be made to the Question, by leaving out from the word "That" to the end of the Question, in order to add the words, "whereas subsequently to the Act 37 Geo. 3, for the suspension of Cash Payments by the Bank of England, large augmentations have from time to time been made in the Salaries and Pay of Persons employed in the Civil and Military Service of the Country, on account of the diminished value of money; and whereas the alleged reason of this increase has, for the most part, ceased to operate, in consequence of the Act 59 Geo. 3, which has restored the metallic standard of value, it is expedient that, with a view to relief from the present excessive load of taxation, all such augmentations should now be revised, and every possible reduction effected, which can be made without the violation of existing engagements, and without detriment to the Public Service," instead thereof.
And the Question being proposed, That the words proposed to be left out, stand part of the Question;
The said proposed Amendment was, with leave of the House, withdrawn.
Then the main Question being put;
Ordered, That the Report be now received.
Sir Alexander Grant accordingly reported from the Committee, the Resolution which they had directed him to report to the House; and the same was read; and is as followeth;
Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee, That a Supply be granted to His Majesty.
The said Resolution being read a second time;
Resolved, Nemine Contradicente, That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution, That a Supply be granted to His Majesty.
Committee of Supply, appointed.
Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the Supply granted to His Majesty.
Estimates, &c. ordered: Seamen.
Ordered, That an Estimate of the charge of Wages and Victuals for the Seamen and Marines to serve in His Majesty's Fleet, for the year 1830, be laid before this House.
Ordinary of Navy.
Ordered, That an Estimate of the Ordinary of the Navy, for the year 1830; with an Estimate of the Half-pay of Officers of the Navy, and such of the Officers of the Royal Marines as were employed in the last War, be laid before this House.
Extra Navy.
Ordered, That an Estimate of the charge for Works in His Majesty's Yards, and for the payment of the Hire of Transports, for the year 1830, be laid before this House.
Land Forces.
Ordered, That an Estimate of the charge for Guards, Garrisons and other Land Forces, for the year 1830, be laid before this House.
Ordnance.
Ordered, That an Estimate of the charge of the Office of Ordnance, for Land and Sea Service, for the year 1830, be laid before this House.
Services not provided for.
Ordered, That an Account of Services incurred, and not provided for by Parliament, be laid before this House.
Navy Debt.
Ordered, That an Estimate of the Debt of His Majesty's Navy, to the 31st December 1829, be laid before this House.
Resolved, That an humble Address be presented to His Majesty, that He will be graciously pleased to give directions to the proper Officers, to lay before this House, the said Estimates and Account.
Ordered, That the said Address be presented to His Majesty, by such Members of this House as are of His Majesty's most honourable Privy Council.
Address respecting Reduction of Establishments.
The House was moved, That the Entry in the Journal of the House, of the 27th day of June 1821, of so much of the Address which was agreed to by the House to be presented to His Majesty, as relates to the several Departments of the Civil Government, might be read; and the same was read as followeth; viz.
"That, for the purpose of affording a further relief to the Country, His Majesty will be graciously pleased to order a minute inquiry into the several Departments of the Civil Government, as well with a view to reducing the number of persons employed in those departments, which, from the great increase of business, were augmented during the late war, as with reference to the increased Salaries granted to individuals since the year 1797, either in consideration of the additional labour thrown upon them during that period, or of the diminished value of money."
The House was also moved, That the Entry in the Journal of the House, of the 3d day of July, in the same Session of Parliament, of His Majesty's Answer to the said Address, "That He would give directions, as desired by the said Address," might be read; and the same being read;
Resolved, That an humble Address be presented to His Majesty, that He will be graciously pleased to give directions, that there be laid before this House, an Account of the progress made in such Inquiry, and of the measures adopted in consequence thereof.
Ordered, That the said Address be presented to His Majesty, by such Members of this House as are of HisMajesty's most honourable Privy Council.
Resolved, That it is the opinion of this House, that in all the Establishments of the Country, Civil and Military, every saving ought to be made which can be effected without the violation of existing engagements, and without detriment to the Public Service.
Adjournment.
Resolved, That this House will, at the rising of the House this day, adjourn till Monday next.
Account from Court of Chancery, ordered.
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, an Account of the number of Causes in the Court of Chancery standing for hearing and for judgment when the Great Seal was put in commission, from June 1791 to February 1792, with the number of Causes heard and determined by the Lords Commissioners.
And then the House adjourned till Monday next.