House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 29 July 1661

Lunæ, 29 Julii, 13° Car. Regis.

Prayers.

Marq. of Winchest.

A PETITION on the Behalf of the Marquis Winchester, from the Lords and Commons, to the King, being, in pursuance of the Order of this House, prepared and brought in, was this Day twice read.

Ordered, That this Petition be fair writ, to be sent up to the Lords, for their Concurrence.

L. Scudamour's dowmer.

A Bill for the Endowment of several Churches by the Lord Viscount Scudamour, being ingrossed, was this Day read the Third time: And

Resolved, upon the Question, That the said Bill do pass.

Resolved, That the Title of the said Bill be, An Act for the Endowment of several Churches by the Lord Viscount Scudamour.

Reguling the Pass.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Nathaniell Hobart and Sir Toby Wolrich, Two of the Masters in Chancery;

Mr. Speaker, The Lords have sent you down the Bill for restraining unlicensed and disorderly Printing, with some Amendments: To which they desire your Concurrence.

Which Amendments being twice read;

The first Amendment being put to the Question;

Resolved, That this House doth agree to the said Amendment.

The Question being put, For agreeing to the Second Amendment;

It passed in the Negative: And

Conference desired.

Ordered, That a Conference be desired with the Lords, concerning the Second Amendment to the Bill.

And Mr. Waller is to go to the Lords to desire a Conference.

Balaam's &c. Petition.

A Petition of William Balaam and Thomas Culpepper Esquires, was this Day read.

Ordered, That it be recommended to the Lord Bishop of Elye, to renew the Petitioners Lease, upon reasonable Terms: And Mr. Speaker is desired to move his Lordship effectually therein, from this House.

Conference.

Mr. Waller reports, the Lords had agreed to a present Conference in the Painted Chamber.

Ordered, That Sir Heneage Finch, Doctor Birkenhead, Mr. Waller, and Mr. Prynn, do manage the Conference, and prepare Reasons.

Horses used in Carts.

Ordered, That the Members of this House, who are of his Majesty's Privy Council, be desired to attend the King, and humbly to move his Majesty, from this House, to issue a Proclamation to prohibit the Number of Horses that are employed in Carts and Waggons, and excessive Carriage therein; and to confine them to a Certainty, that the Highways may be preserved.

Conference with Lords.

Sir Heneage Finch reports the Reasons to be offered, at the Conference to be had with the Lords, upon the Bill for regulating Printing: Which, being read, were agreed to by the House; and are as followeth:

Cannot agree to the Exceptions of the House of Peers, from being subject to Search.

1. The Bill is to prevent a general Mischief, which will not be prevented by this Exception, it being very possible, that this may be attempted chiefly in great Houses by Servants, without the Privity of their Lords, especially in Absence.

2. The Matter of some Books may be . . . . . . . . . . Treason and Sedition, for which there neither is, nor ought to be, any Sanctuary.

3. The Matter of some Books may be tending to the Overthrow of the Religion established; which may come abroad freely, if there be a Privileged Place.

4. All Houses, as well of Commons as Peers, are equally the Castles and Proprieties of the Owners: And therefore if all the Gentry of England submit their Houses for publick Safety, it would look as if we were prodigal of the Liberty of the Gentry, if we admit this Exception.

5. The very Exception shews Men the Way to attempt the Servants of Peers.

Confirming private Acts.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Thomas Bennett and Sir Thomas Estcourt, Two of the Masters in Chancery;

Mr. Speaker, The Lords have sent you down the Bill for confirming the private Acts therein mentioned, with some Amendments.

Which Amendments being twice read;

Resolved, That this House doth agree to the Amendments. And

Ordered, That the Bill be amended: Which was accordingly done at the Clerk's Table.

Marq. of Winchester.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Nathaniell Hobart and Sir Toby Wolrich, Two of the Masters in Chancery;

Mr. Speaker, The Lords concur with the Commons in the Petition concerning the Marquis of Winchester; and have appointed Two Lords to deliver it to his Majesty.

Ordered, That the Lord Bruce, the Lord Falkland, Sir Robert Howard, and Mr. Secretary Morice, do accompany the Lords in presenting the said Petition.

Conference with Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Thomas Bennett and Sir Thomas Estcourt, Two of the Masters of the Chancery;

Mr. Speaker, The Lords desire a present free Conference with this House, touching the Subject Matter of the late Conference, in the Painted Chamber.

Resolved, That this House doth agree to the said free Conference.

And the Messengers being called in, Mr. Speaker did acquaint them, That this House had agreed to a present free Conference, in the Painted Chamber.

Sir Heneage Finch reports from the said free Conference, That the Lord Roberts did manage it: And * * * *,

And the Proviso was twice read.

And the Question being put, That this House doth agree to the said Proviso;

It passed in the Negative.

The Question being put, To adhere to the Bill for regulating unlicensed and disorderly Printing;

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Conference desired.

Ordered, That a Conference be desired upon the Subject Matter of the last free Conference: And the Lord Falkland is to go to the Lords to desire it.

Westminster Streets.

Another Message from the Lords, by Sir Thomas Estcourt and Sir Toby Wolrich, Two of the Masters in Chancery;

Mr. Speaker, The Lords have returned the Bill for amending the Highways by Charing-cross, with a Proviso to be added: To which the Lords desire your Concurrence.

The Proviso was twice read.

And the Question being put, To agree to the Proviso;

It passed in the Negative. And

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House doth adhere to the Bill without the Proviso.

Ordered, That a Conference be desired with the Lords upon the Bill of the Highways.

And Sir Thomas Meres is to go up to the Lords to desire the Conference.

Conference.

Sir Thomas Meres reports from the Lords, touching the Conference desired upon the Bill for Highways, That the Lords had consented to a present Conference, after the first free Conference ended.

Ordered, That those that be appointed to manage the last Conference, and Serjeant Charleton, Sir Thomas Meres, and Mr. Coventry, do manage this Conference.

Horses used in Carts.

Rebuilding Houses.

Ordered, That such Members of this House, as are of the Privy Council, do attend his Majesty, and desire him to issue a Proclamation, to restrain the great Number of Horses and Oxen that are employed in Waggons, Carts, and Carriages, and also the great Burdens that are carried therein, whereby the Highways are much prejudiced; and to confine the Horses and Oxen which are employed, and the Burdens which are carried in Waggons and Carts, to such Numbers and Proportions, that the Highways may be preserved: And that the Members of this House, of his Majesty's Privy Council, do also desire his Majesty to inhibit all Rebuilding or Repairing of any Houses in or near the Cities of London and Westminster, upon old Foundations, except it be with Brick or Stone.

Regulating the Press.

Resolved, That the Persons who managed the Conference with the Lords upon the Bill for regulating unlicensed and disorderly Printing, have done well in the Managing thereof, and leaving the Bill with the Lords: And that Mr. Solicitor General, who was chiefly intrusted with this Business, have the Thanks of the House returned him for his Care and discreet Carriage therein.

And Mr. Speaker did accordingly return Mr. Solicitor the Thanks of the House.

And then the House adjourned till Eight of the Clock, To-morrow Morning.