House of Commons Journal Volume 7: 2 June 1657

Tuesday, 2 June, 1657.

Carter's Claims.

THE humble Petition of Colonel John Carter, Governor of Conwey, was this Day read.

Ordered, That this Petition of Colonel John Carter be referred to a Committee, to examine the Matter of Fact: And, if they find the same to be true, that then they consider of some Way how he may have Satisfaction, and offer it to the House: Viz. to Sir Wm. Strickland, Colonel Zanchy, Lord Deputy, Mr. Bond, Major-General Whalley, Mr. Bodurda, Sir Theophilus Jones, Major Aston, Captain Hatsell, Master of the Rolls, Captain Blackwell, Mr. Secretary, Mr. Lister, Mr. Williams, Sir Gilbert Pickering, Mr. West, Colonel Twisleton, Mr. Berisford, Mr. Holland, Sir John Trevor, Sir Christ. Pack, Mr. Briscoe, Mr. Lloyd, Mr. Grove, Sir Lislebone Long, Mr. Pedly, Mr. Morgan, Mr. Waterhowse, Mr. Trevor, Mr. Burton, Sir Rich. Onsloe, Colonel Philips, Sir Thomas Honywood, Colonel Mathews, Sir Rich. Lucy, General Disbrow: To meet on Thursday, at Two of Clock in the Afternoon, in the Duchy Chamber.

Jones' Claims.

Mr. Holland reports from the Committee, to whom the Petition of Colonel John Jones was referred, the State of the Matter of Fact upon the said Petition, with the Opinion of the Committee thereupon, as followeth; viz.

THE said Committee have several times met, and examined the Demands of Colonel John Jones; for which he humbly craves (by his Petition) Satisfaction to be made by Lands in Ireland: And do find, upon Perusal of several Orders of the Committee for removing Obstructions, and other Evidences and Testimonies produced before us, That there is due unto him, for Reprises pon the Purchase of the Lordships of Bromfeild and Yale in the County of Denbigh, the Sum of Three thousand and Two Pounds Eight Shillings; whereof the Sum of Two thousand Two hundred Pounds is for his own personal Pay; and the Remainder of the said Sum, being Eight hundred and Two Pounds Eight Shillings, is become due unto him, upon his purchasing of the Interest of several Officers and Soldiers, who were Partners with him in the said Purchase.

The said Committee do likewise find, That the said Colonel Jones was in Ireland, in the Service of the Commonwealth, during the Time of the Sale of the Lands appointed for Satisfaction of Soldiers Arrears; so that he lost the Opportunity of having Lands for the said Reprises, or other Satisfaction, according to the Tenor of the Acts of Parliament in such Cases provided.

And the said Committee are humbly of Opinion, That the said Colonel Jones should have Satisfaction for the said Sum of Three thousand and Two Pounds Eight Shillings, by Lands in Ireland, in the Dispose of the Commonwealth, and not yet set out or appointed for Satisfaction of the Adventurers for their Debts, or of the Soldiers in Ireland for their Arrears: And that it be recommended to his Highness, to issue out Power unto the Lord Deputy and Council in Ireland, for the Setting out and Settling of the said Lands upon the said Colonel John Jones, and his Heirs accordingly.

Which was read.

Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee, That Colonel John Jones shall have Satisfaction for the Sum of Three thousand and Two Pounds and Eight Shillings, in Satisfaction of his Arrears, and the Arrears of other Officers and Soldiers, by him purchased, by Lands in Ireland, in the Dispose of the Commonwealth, and not yet set out or appointed for Satisfaction of the Adventurers for their Debts, or of the Soldiers in Ireland for their Arrears: And that it be recommended to his Highness the Lord Protector, to give Power to the Lord Deputy and Council of Ireland, for the Setting out and Settling of the said Lands upon the said Colonel John Jones, and his Heirs.

Ordered, That it be referred back again to this Committee, to bring in a Bill for Colonel John Jones his Satisfaction out of Lands in Ireland, according to the said Report; or to propound some other Course, that may be effectual for his Satisfaction.

Arthur's Claims.

A Bill for Satisfaction of Captain John Arthur for divers Sums of Money, disbursed by him for the Service of the Commonwealth, out of forfeited Lands, Houses, or Leases, in Ireland, was this Day read the Third time; and, upon the Question, passed.

Ordered, That his Highness the Lord Protector's Consent be desired to this Bill.

Morris' Petition.

The humble Petition of Thomas Morris, of Westminster, in the County of Middlesex, Gentleman, was this Day read.

Ordered, That this Petition be referred to the Committee for New Buildings: And they are to report their Opinion to the House, what is fit to be done therein.

Westminster Petition.

The humble Petition of the Inhabitants of the Parish of Margarett's, Westminster, within the City of Westminster, was this Day read.

Ordered, That this Petition be referred to the Committee for New Buildings: And they are to bring in Proviso therein, if they think fit.

Rscusants.

Mr. Burton reports further Amendments to the Bill for Recusants: Which were twice read.

And the Question being put, That this House doth agree with the Committee in this Clause in the Oath; viz. "And that there is not any Transubstantiation in the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper, or in the Elements of Bread and Wine, after Consecration thereof by any Person whatsoever," be omitted;

It passed with the Negative.

The Question being put, That this House doth agree with the Committee, that this Clause in the Oath be omitted; viz. "And I also believe, That Salvation can not be merited by Works;" be omitted;

It passed with the Negative.

Resolved, That this Clause be Part of the Oath; "And I do sincerely testify and declare, That the Pope, neither of himself, nor by any Authority of the Church or See of Rome, or by any other Means, with any other, hath any Power or Authority to depose the Chief Magistrate of these Nations; or to dispose of any the Countries or Territories thereunto belonging; or to authorize any foreign Prince or State to invade or annoy him or them; or to discharge any of the People of these Nations from their Obedience to the Chief Magistrate; or to give Licence or Leave to any of the said People to bear Arms, raise Tumults, or to offer any Violence or Hurt to the Person of the said Chief Magistrate, or to the State or Government of these Nations, or to any of the People thereof. And I do further swear, That I do, from my Heart, abhor, detest, and abjure this damnable Doctrine and Position, That Princes, Rulers, or Governors, which be excommunicated or deprived by the Pope, may, by virtue of such Excommunication, or Deprivation, be killed, murdered, or deposed from their Rule or Government, or any Outrage or Violence done unto them by the People that are under them, or by any other whatsoever, upon such Pretence. And I further swear, That I do believe that the Pope or Bishop of Rome hath no Authority, Power, or Jurisdiction whatsoever, within England, Scotland, and Ireland, or any or either of them, or the Dominions or Territories belonging to them, or any or either of them."

Resolved, That these Words in the Oath do stand thus, "I do believe the Church of Rome is not the true Church."

Resolved, That this Oath, thus amended, be Part of this Bill.

Resolved, That the several Blanks, in the Amendments for Years, be filled up with the Word "Sixteen."

Resolved, That the Blank, in the Three-and-twentieth Line of the Third Folio in the Amendments, be filled up with the Sum of "One hundred Pounds."

Resolved, That the Blank for the Time for giving Notice, in the Fifth Clause of the Third Paper of the Amendments, be filled up with these Words, "Three Months."

Ordered, That the other Blank, in that Amendment, be filled up with this Word "Third."

Resolved, That the Blank for the Penalty upon the Justice of Peace be filled up with "Twenty Pounds."

Resolved, That the Blank for the Penalty upon the Churchwardens and Constables be filled up with "Ten Pounds."

Resolved, That the Blank for the Penalty of the Clerk of Assize, or Clerk of the Peace, be filled up with "Twenty Pounds."

Resolved, That the Penalty in the last Clause of Amendments, in the Third Paper of Amendments, be "One hundred Pounds."

Resolved, That the Time of Imprisonment be by the Space of Six Months.

Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee in these Amendments.

Resolved, That this Clause, viz. "The one Moiety of the said Forfeiture to be to the Use of his Highness the Lord Protector, and his Successors; and the other Moiety to the Informer; to be recovered by Action, Bill, Plaint, Suit, or Information, in any Court of Record; in which no Essoign, Protection, or Wager of Law, shall be allowed," be Part of the Bill.

Ordered, That this Bill, thus amended, shall be ingrossed.

Buildings.

Ordered, That the Report of the Amendments to the Bill touching the New Buildings, be made upon Friday Morning next.

Excise.

Ordered, That the Grand Committee of the whole House, for the Excise, do sit on Thursday next, in the Afternoon.

Tonage and Poundage.

Ordered, That the Grand Committee, upon the Bill of Tonage and Poundage, do sit this Afternoon, notwithstanding the Adjournment of the House until Thursday.

Treasury.

Ordered, That the Lord Deputy of Ireland be added to the Committee for Inspection of the Treasury.

Resolved, That this House doth adjourn itself until Thursday Morning next.