House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 31 October 1645

Die Veneris, 31 Octobris, 1645.

Prayers.

THE Grand Committee of the House, according to former Order, proceeded to take into Consideration the Business concerning Matters in Religion.

Mr. Whittacre in the Chair.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Upon Mr. Whittacre's Report from the Committee of Examinations, in the Case of Sir Thomas Walsingham, and Mr. Robert Ramsey;

It is this Day Ordered, by the Commons, assembled in Parliament, That the said Robert Ramsey do forthwith pay unto the said Sir Thomas Walsingham the Five hundred Fifty-two Pounds and Fourteen Shillings decreed unto him in the Exchequer-Chamber; and also, the Two-and-thirty Pounds taxed by that Court for Costs of Suit; and such further Costs as this House shall order: And that the said Sums shall be allowed and paid to Sir Thomas Walsingham, according to his Petition, out of the Profits of the Office of Clerk of the Liveries in the Court of Wards, which the said Ramsey enjoyeth, he being a Prisoner in the Fleet: And that the Deputy, or other Person, now or hereafter executing the said Office, in the Right of the said Ramsey, do, at the End of every Term, pay unto the said Sir Thomas Walsingham, or his Assigns, the Profits arising thereby, upon Account, until the said respective Sums shall be fully satisfied: Whose Acquittance shall be, from time to time, a good Discharge for the Payment thereof.

Resolved, &c. That the Committee of Goldsmiths-Hall shall have Power to tender the solemn League and Covenant to all Persons that come out of the King's Quarters to that Committee, to compound either upon Mr. Speaker's Pass, or otherwise; and to secure such as shall refuse to take the Covenant, until they shall conform thereunto.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Ordered, That the Committee for Accommodation in Matter of Church-Government, and all Powers given them by former Order, be revived: And that the Lords Concurrence be desired herein.

Mr. Tate is to desire the Lords Concurrence herein.

A Letter from Molton-Mowbray, of Octobris 30 1645, relating, That the Princes Rupert and Maurice, Sir Richard Willis, Lord Gerard, and divers other Gentlemen of good Quality, to the Number of Four hundred, the least of which is a Captain, have laid down their Commissions, and disengaged themselves from the King's Party, and have desired to go beyond the Seas, and to pass their Honour never to bear Arms again in this War, &c. was this Day read: And

It is Resolved, &c. That this Letter, and the whole Matter, and every Particular thereof, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of both Kingdoms: Who are to present their Opinions upon the whole Matter, and every Particular thereof, to the House, with what convenient Speed they can.

A Letter from the Committee of the Associated Counties, from Chelmesford, of Octobris 23 1645, was this Day read.

Resolved, &c. That the Three Regiments of the Horse of the Association shall continue in the Service they are now upon, for Three Months longer.

Resolved, &c. That the Monies that the Maintenance of the Associated Horse for Three Months longer shall amount unto, shall be charged upon the Receipts of the Excise, to be paid in its Course: And that the Committee of Association do meet; and prepare an Estimate of that Charge, and an Ordinance for the Charging of it, accordingly, upon the Excise.

Resolved, &c. That Five thousand Pounds be borrowed for Fourteen Days, for the Service of the Foot that are to be drawn out of the Garisons of the Associated Counties, against Newark, out of the Thirty thousand Pounds formerly desired to be lent by the City, for the Service of the Scotts Army, when they should come to besiege Newarke: And that the said Five thousand Pounds be reimbursed out of the first Monies that shall come in upon the Ordinance for the Establishments of the Garisons in the Eastern Association: And Mr. Lemmon, Mr. Corbett, Sir Anthony Irby, Mr. Toll, Mr. Beddingfield, Sir Martin Lumly, Sir Dudley North, and Sir Nathanael Barnardiston, are to take care hereof, and to employ their best Endeavours for the Borrowing of this Five thousand Pounds accordingly.

Resolved, &c. That the Lords be desired, That the Committee of Lords and Commons, to whom it is referred to prepare an Answer upon the Votes concerning the Papers from the Scotts Commissioners, do meet this Afternoon.

Resolved, &c. That Power be given to the Committee appointed to prepare an Answer upon the Scotts Papers, likewise to prepare Answer to such Parts of the Scotts Papers as those Votes do not extend unto, keeping themselves still to the Matter of those Votes, already passed both Houses in this Business; and to make Report thereof with all Speed.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

And Mr. Nathanael Fienis carried these Votes to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Ordered, That a Warrant shall issue forth, under Mr. Speaker's Hand, directed to the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, to issue forth a Writ, for the Election of a new Burgess for the Borough of Whitchurch in the County of Southampton, in the place of Richard Jervoise Esquire, deceased.

Ordered, That, on Monday Morning, the House do take into Consideration private and publick Ordinances: And that the Ordinance concerning the Garison of Southampton be then read, the first Business: And that, at the same time, Mr. Corbett do bring in an Ordinance for the Payment of the Forces of Brecknock, Monmouth, and Clamorgan.

A Letter from Captain Moulton, from Kings-Road, aboard the Lyon Regis, 28 Octobris 1645, was this Day read: And Ordered, That it be especially referred, with the whole Business therein, to the Committee of the Admiralty; to take speedy Care of the Particulars therein mentioned, and especially of the Flesh.

Ordered, That Sir John Northcot, and Sir Arthur Hasilrig, be, and are hereby, added to the Committee appointed, on Saturday last, to take into Consideration the Necessities of Sir Richard Phillips and Mr. Arthur Owen: And that they take into Consideration the Business of the Arrest of Sir Richard Phillips; and do consider of some speedy Course for Satisfaction of those Debts for which he is arrested.

Ordered, That Mr. Herbert shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Ordered, That the Messenger that brought the Letter and Information from Melton-Mowbray, concerning the Coming in of Prince Rupert and Prince Maurice, shall have Ten Pounds bestowed upon him for his Pains: And, that the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies, at Haberdashers-Hall, do forthwith pay the same.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

A Message from the Lords, by Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath;

The Lords have commanded us to recommend unto the House of Commons this Ordinance, concerning the Seal of the Duchy of Lancaster, for the Putting of it in due Execution: The Petition of the Earl of Nottingham: The Petition of Dr. Oldesworth: The Vote for Colonel Morgan to be Commander in Chief of the Forces of Gloucestershire; to which they do agree, with one Amendment: A Report from the Committee of both Kingdoms, concerning Sir John Henderson.

Ordered, That the Ordinance concerning the Duchy Seal be read on Monday next.

The Petition of the Earl of Nottingham was read: And

It is Ordered, That the Report concerning the Earl of Nottingham be made on Saturday next come Sevennight.

The humble Petition of Richard Oldesworth, Doctor in Divinity, now Prisoner in the Tower, was this Day read, desiring his Liberty upon Bail. And

It is Ordered, upon the Question, That he be forthwith bailed: And that it be referred to the Committee of Prisoners, to take his Bail, and to assign the Limits to which he shall be appointed; and that he may give Security not to do any thing, by Word, Advice, or otherwise, to the Prejudice of the Parliament.

The Amendments to the Vote concerning Colonel Morgan was read; and was in hæc verba; viz. "Reserving to Sir Thomas Fairfax all Powers formerly granted to him by both Houses of Parliament."

The Report concerning Sir John Henderson was read; and was in hæc verba; viz.

"Die Lunæ, 27 Octobris, 1645,"

"At the Committee of both Kingdoms at Darby-House."

"Ordered, That it be reported to both Houses, That whereas the Houses have ordered, That Sir John Henderson, who brought Letters from the King of Denmark, should return back from hence within Fourteen Days; That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That he should carry back with him those Letters he hath brought for the King of England; and that the Houses will please to send an Agent into Denmark, who may be there as soon as Sir John Henderson; who may carry both Copies of the former Letters from the Houses to that King, and other Letters of their Occasion; who may also endeavour to keep a good Correspondency between the Two Crowns:"

And, upon the Question, assented unto.

Ordered, That the Committee of both Kingdoms do, according to the Resolution of both Houses, in agreeing to the said Report, consider of a fit Person to be sent Agent into Denmark; and of Instructions, and of such other Particulars, as they shall think fit to send with him; and to dispatch him away accordingly.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message: And, as to the Vote reported from the Committee of both Kingdoms, concerning Sir John Henderson, they do agree; and likewise, to the Vote concerning Colonel Morgan commanding in Chief the Forces of Gloucestershire, subordinate to Sir Thomas Fairfax: As to the rest, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

A Message from the Lords, by Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath;

The Lords have commanded us to deliver unto you a Report from the Committee of both Kingdoms; and an Order made upon it in their House: In which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

The Order was read; and was, in hæc verba; "It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament assembled, That Colonel Fielder, Governor of Farnham, is hereby discharged of any further Government there, the Fortification being to be slighted: And that the said Colonel Fielder may have a Commission from the Members of both Houses, that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, to command the Five Companies of Foot, and the Troop of Horse, sent forth by the County of Surrey, for the present Service of Dunnington;" and, upon the Question, assented unto.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and do agree to the Order.

Ordered, That the Thousand Pounds, formerly charged upon the Sequestrations for the Service of the County of Nottingham, shall continue still charged upon the Sequestrations, notwithstanding a former Order, that charges One thousand Pounds upon the Receipts of the Excise, in lieu of the said One thousand Pounds. And

It is further Ordered, That One thousand Pounds be charged upon the Receipts of the Excise, for the Pay of the Nottingham Horse.

Mr. Tate carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, The Vote for reviving the Committee, and the Order formerly made, for Accommodation in Matters of Religion The Ordinance for passing the Grant of the Place of Master of the Rolls to Mr. Speaker, under the Great Seal: And the Vote for the Lord Grey to have the Benefit of the Fifth, and Twentieth-Part of Two Malignants.

Mr. Tate brings Answer from the Lords; That the Lords do agree to the Ordinance for passing the Grant of the Place of Master of the Rolls to Mr. Speaker, under the Great Seal; and to the Vote for the Lord Grey: And, as to the other Vote, for reviving of the Committee, and Order, for Accommodation in Matters of Religion; they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Ordered, That the Members of both Houses, that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, do grant a Commission to Robert Voice to be Captain of the Foot to be drawn out of the Garison of Windsore, and employed against Dunnington.

An Ordinance for Compositions for Wardships in the Court of Wards and Liveries; and for Signing of Bills, and passing them under the Great Seal; was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Mr. Corbet reports the Amendment to the Ordinance for Assessing and Levying of certain Sums of Money upon the several Counties of the Eastern Association, for reimbursing the Money disbursed by several Gentlemen of those Counties, upon the Occasion of Alarms; which was the inserting of the County of Suffolke, and the Proportion to be assessed upon the said County; and was, upon the Question, assented unto: And the Ordinance, thus amended, passed; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Ordered, That Mr. Samuel Browne and Mr. Sollicitor do prepare and bring in a Declaration, for the Continuance of the Proceedings of the Court of Wards and Liveries, until the same shall be taken away.