House of Commons Journal Volume 12: 1 May 1699

Lunæ, 1 die Maii;

Undecimo Gulielmi 3tii.

Prayers.

Cloribus', &c. Nat.

THE Lord Hyde reported from the Committee, to whom the ingrossed Bill, from the Lords, intituled, An Act for naturalizing Augustine Cloribus, and others, was committed, That they had examined and considered the same; and had made some Amendments thereunto; which they had directed him to report to the House; which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were twice read; and, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House; and are as follow; viz.

Pr. 1. L. 27. after "France," insert "Peter Hollander, Son of Jacob Hollander, by Catharine his Wife, born at Hamburg; Servus Latomus, Son of Antony Latomus, by Catharine his Wife, born at Francfort on the Maine, in Germany; Peter Brun, Son of John Brun, by Gabriel his Wife, born at Cognac in France:"

L. 43. after "Thomas," insert "Peter Hollander, Servus Latomus, Peter Brun:"

Pr. 2. L. 8. the same Amendment:

L. 37. the same Amendment.

The Bill was read the Third time.

Resolved, That the Bill, with the Amendments, do pass.

Ordered, That the Lord Hyde do carry the Bill to the Lords, and acquaint them, That this House hath agreed to the same, with some Amendments: To which they desire the Concurrence of their Lordships.

Collier's, &c. Nat.

The Lord Cornbury reported from the Committee, to whom the ingrossed Bill, from the Lords, intituled, An Act for naturalizing Sir David Collier, Isaac la Mellioniere, Peter de Belcastel, and William Rejatore, was committed, That they had examined and considered the same; and had made some Amendments thereunto; which they had directed him to report to the House; which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were twice read; and, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House; and are as follow; viz.

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Ordered, That the Bill be read the Third time Tomorrow Morning.

Supply Bill; Duties on Sweets.

Ordered, That it be an Instruction to the Committee of the whole House, to whom the Bill for laying further Duties upon Sweets; and for lessening and settling the Duties as well upon Vinegar, as upon low Wines drawn from certain Materials, and the Duties upon Brandy imported; and for the more easy raising the Duties upon Leather; and for charging of Cinders; is committed; That they have Power to receive a Clause to explain the Clause of Appropriation in the Act for the Land-Tax, so as that the Garisons may be paid to the 29th Day of March 1699, out of the 600,000 l. thereby appropriated.

Ditto.

A Petition of Joseph How, Lewen Cholmley, * Fowler, and others, on behalf of themselves, and several others, who have advanced Money upon a Fund granted to his Majesty, by a Duty upon low Wines, drawn either from foreign or English Materials, was presented to the House, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners have advanced great Sums of Money upon the Act, made in the 7th Year of his Majesty's Reign, for laying a Duty on all low Wines of the first Extraction, both from English and foreign Materials: That they understand a Bill is brought in for taking off Part of the Duty upon low Wines from foreign Materials, which may be prejudicial to their Interest: And praying they may be heard, by Counsel, before the said Bill do pass.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Robert Legard and Mr. Meredith:

Mr. Speaker,

Penalties under Act of Navigation.

The Lords have agreed to the Bill, intituled, An Act to discharge the Ships King William, and Charles the Second, from the Penalties of the Act of Navigation, without any Amendments. Also,

Bernardeau's &c. Nat.

The Lords have agreed to the Amendments, made by this House, to the Bill, intituled, An Act to naturalize Samuel Bernardeau, Peter Chantreau des Gaudree, and others, private Gentlemen belonging to his Majesty's Three Troops of Guards and Grenadiers, with some Amendments: To which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

And then the Messengers withdrew.

Ditto.

The House took into Consideration the said Amendments:

And, being twice read, were, upon the Question put thereupon, agreed unto by the House; and are as followeth; viz.

Pr. 3. L. 53. with adding, after "France," "Paul Guerard, Son of David Guerard, by Susanna his Wife, born at Metz, in France:"

The Lords agree to the Commons Amendment, Pr. 4. L. 36. with adding, after "Kidwell," "Paul Guerard."

The Lords agree to the Commons Amendment, Pr. 5. L. 22. with adding, after "Kidwell," "Paul Guerard:"

The Lords agree to the Commons Amendment, Pr. 6. L. 20. with adding, after "Kidwell," "Paul Guerard:"

The Lord agree to the Clause A.

Ordered, That Mr. Lowther do carry the Bill to the Lords, and acquaint them, That this House hath agreed unto the said Amendments.

Newfoundland Trade.

A Motion being made, and the Question being put, That the Report from the Committee, to whom the Bill for encouraging the Trade to Newfoundland was committed, be now taken into Consideration;

The House divided.

The Yeas go forth.

So it was resolved in the Affirmative.

And, the Report being read;

The Amendments, made by the Committee, to the said Bill, were once read throughout; and then a Second time, one by one; and, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.

Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be ingrossed.

Legg's, &c. Nat.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Robert Legard and and Mr. Meredeth:

Mr. Speaker,

The Lords do desire a present Conference with this House, in the Painted Chamber, upon the Subject-matter of the last Conference.

And then the Messengers withdrew.

Resolved, That the House do agree to a present Conference, as the Lords do desire.

And then the Messengers were called in again; and Mr. Speaker acquainted them therewith.

Ordered, That the Members who managed the last Conference, do manage this Conference.

And the Managers went to the Conference.

And being returned;

Mr. Lowther reported from the Conference, That the same was managed by * * * * who acquainted them, That the Lords do insist upon their Amendments to the Bill, intituled, An Act to naturalize Richard Legg, and others; and gave their Reasons for the same; as follow; viz.

That the Lords do acknowlege, that the Commons had good Reason to be apprehensive of the Addition of so many Names, by way of Amendment to this Bill, because that, at the time it was returned to the Commons, there was no Opportunity, by the usual Method of Proceedings between the Two Houses, to inform them of the Reasons for it: But their Lordships hope, that when, by the Means of this Conference, the Condition, Circumstances, and Merits, of the Persons proposed by the Lords to be added to the Bill, shall appear, that the Commons will be prevailed with to admit of them, for the same Reasons that prevailed with their Lordships; and to that End the Lords have directed, That the Commons should be acquainted with the several Circumstances of every Person added, by their Amendments.

Their Lordships have as much Consideration as the Commons can desire, of the English Officers and Soldiers now out of Employment, since the late reducing and disbanding the Army, whom they would always have preferred before any Foreigners; but they cannot but hope, that since, this Bill was intended by the Commons for the Benefit of those Foreigners that were at first put into the Bill, because, as their Lordships conceive, they had served long and faithfully in the English Troops, that the Commons will, upon the same Grounds, agree to those added by the Lords Amendments, they being found to be in the same Circumstances:

For these Reasons, and on this Account, their Lordships do insist on their Amendments, except only as to Gerrard Van Hesta, and George William Krond, whom they do agree to leave out of this Bill, because the one being a Kettle-Drum, and the other a Trumpeter, they are provided for, in a Clause sent up by the Commons, to be added to the Bill for naturalizing Samuel Bernardeau, and others; which is agreed to by the Lords:

Peter Persode, one about the Duke of Gloucester, to teach him French:

Paul Boyer, Secretary to the Earl of Galloway, and employed in his Business here:

Peter Morin shewed a Commission for Ensign in 1693, in Colonel Gibson's Regiment:

John Olivier, Commission for Adjutant in 1696, in the Earl of Essex's Regiment:

Peter Cairon hath been a Trooper, in the Earl Oxford's Regiment, ever since 1689:

Samuel Guernau hath served since 1694, under Colonel Lumley:

Thomas Collom had a Commission for Lieutenant, in 1689, under the Duke of Bolton:

John Antony Berniere had a Commission for Ensign, in 1692, in Colonel Brudnell's Regiment:

Theophilus Vauchin de la Conde had a Commission for Ensign, in 1695, in Colonel Saunderson's Regiment:

Peter de St. Just had a Commission for Ensign, in 1689, in the Lord Castleton's Regiment:

Jeremias Lanjoll, a Trooper in the Guards, under the Earl Rivers:

Mark Antony Terson, Commission for Ensign, in 1694, under Colonel Bridges:

Penry Poitblane, Commission for Ensign, in 1695, under Colonel Granville:

Jeremiah Frere had a Commission for Ensign, in 1695, under Colonel Granville:

John Ducros, Commission for a Surgeon, in 1692, under Earl Essex:

Rodolph Corneille, Second Engineer, in 1691:

John Villebone, Commission for Captain, 169¾, under Colonel How:

Francis Pyll, Commission for Ensign, in 1697, under Lord Fairfax:

Ferdinando Paris, Commission for Captain, in 1697, under Colonel Brewer:

Jacob Drobus, Commission . . . Ensign, in 1692, in the Princess's Regiment:

Jasper Debie, Commission for Ensign, in 1698, under Duke of Bolton:

Julius Cæsar Vandust, a Trooper Three Years, in Lord Arran's Regiment:

Stephen Cadroy, Commission for Ensign, in 1696:

William Vialas served as Trooper Twelve Years under Colonel Lumley:

John Galiard, a Trooper Ten Years, under Colonel Lumley:

Stephen Siguala, Trooper Five Years, under Colonel Lumley:

John Papot, Trooper Seven Years, under the Duke Schomberg:

Gideon Bonnevert, Commission for Lieutenant, in 1693:

Daniel de Bonnimer, Commission for Lieutenant, in 1693:

Peter Laverney, Trooper Fifteen Years, under the Earl Oxon:

Alexander Dutens, Commission . . . Ensign, in 1693:

Lewis de Listany, Commission for Lieutenant, in 1693:

Christian Murray, Commission for Lieutenant, in 1689:

Paul Faur, Chirurgeon's Mate Five Years, under Colonel Granville:

James de Bordes, Commission for Lieutenant, in 1694:

Lewis du Plessy, Commission for Quarter-master, in 1689:

Peter Bonlay, Commission for Chirurgeon, in 1688:

Adrian Fulgem, Commission for Brigadier, in 1689, in the Second Troop of Guards:

Moses Girandeau, Commission for Chirurgeon, in 1688. in Lord Fitzharding's Regiment:

Charles Castlenar, Commission for Ensign, in 1694:

Peter Bonnafar, Commission for Ensign, in 1693:

Peter Carnot, Chirurgeon's Mate Three Years and Half, under the Earl of Essex:

Nathanael Manacher, Commission for Quarter-master, in 1697:

Lewis Du Bois, Commission for Ensign, in 1693, under Colonel Colt:

Gideon Ribier, Commission for Lieutenant, in 1692:

John Demillon, Commission for Captain, in 1696:

James Rene Des Romanes, Commission for Ensign, in 1693:

Solomon Rapin, Commission for Captain, in 1695:

Hosea Fiquel, Commission for Chirurgeon, in 1696:

Henry Poyet, a Trooper Twelve Years, under the Lord Raby:

Daniel Perrote, Commission for Ensign, in 1690:

Peter Ducla, Commission for Ensign, in 1693:

John Menviele, Commission for Quarter-master, in 1697, under the Lord Raby:

Solomon Blosset de Loches, Brigadier, served in Piedmont:

Peter Brun, a Trooper, since 1692, under Lord Colchester:

Samuel Villers, a Trooper Ten Years, under Earl Oxford:

Peter La Feviltrie served Eleven Years in Lord Manclesfeild' Regiment:

John Lewis Delabene, Commission for Captain, in 1694:

Isaac Harrivill, Chirurgeon Fourteen Years, under Colonel Stuart:

Joseph Dussaux, Commission . . . Ensign, in 1696, under Colonel Collumbine:

Charles Rickard, Commission for Ensign, in 1696, under Colonel Ingoldsby:

Francis Vine, Trooper, Thirteen Years in Colonel Wood's Regiment:

Alexander Lamertinere, commanded the Engineers at Namure:

Peter Croy, Commission for Lieutenant, in 1694, under Colonel Granville:

Peter Goniquet, an Infant of Five Years, born in his Majesty's Service:

Cæsar Dupuy, a Trooper, Thirteen Years in Colonel Wood's Regiment:

Mark Cazalet, Commission for Captain, in 1692, under Colonel Granville:

Philip Jacob Sixt, Commission for Captain, in 1689, under Colonel Busham:

Claudius St. Martin, Quarter-master, Fourteen Years under the Earl of Essex:

John de Raffau, Chirurgeon, in the Mary Gally.

Ordered, That the said Report be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

Frauds by Agents of Packetboat.

Ordered, That the Report from the Committee, to whom the Petition of John Rusell, and others, relating to Daniel Gwyn, Agent for the Spanish Pacquet-boat, was referred, be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

Blackwell Hall Woollen Market.

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the Lords, to put them in mind of the Bill, intituled, An Act for the making more effectual an Act, intituled, An Act to restore the Market at Blackwell-hall to the Clothiers; and for regulating the Factors there.

Ordered, That Mr. Ireton do carry the said Message.

Supply Bill; Duties on Sweets.

The House, according to Order, resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the Bill for laying further Duties upon Sweets; and for lessening and settling the Duties as well upon Vinegar, as upon low Wines drawn from certain Materials, and the Duties upon Brandy imported; and for the more easy raising the Duties upon Leather; and for Charging of Cinders.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair.

Mr. Cowper took the Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Mr. Cowper reported from the said Committee, That they had gone through the Bill, and made several Amendments to the Bill; which they had directed him to report, when the House will please to receive the same.

Ordered, That the Report be made To-morrow Morning.

Committees.

Ordered, That all Committees be adjourned.

And then the House adjourned till To-morrow Morning, Eight a Clock.