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In this section
Sabbati, 28 die Januarii ;4° Willielmi et Mariæ.
Prayers.
Wroth's Estate.
A BILL to enable Sir Tho. Wroth, Baronet, to make a Jointure and Settlement upon his Marriage, and to make Provision for his Sister, notwithstanding his being under the Age of One-and-twenty Years, was read the First time.
Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time.
Atwood's Estate.
An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act to enable Abell Atwood to sell some Lands, to pay Debts, and make Provision for younger Children, was read the First time.
Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time.
Goodwyn's Estate.
Mr. Serjeant Blincoe, according to the Order of the Day, presented to the House a Bill to enable Thomas Goodwyn the younger to sell some Lands, for the Payment of Debts, and to make Provision for his Wife and Children. And the same was received.
Delivering Declarations to Prisoners.
Mr. Goldwell reported from the Committee to whom the Bill for delivering Declarations to Prisoners in the Country was committed, That they had made several Amendments to the Bill; which they had directed him to report to the House: And which he read in his Place, with the Coherence; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were once read; and afterwards a Second time, one by one; and, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.
Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be ingrossed.
Salwerp Navigation.
A Motion being made, and the Question being put, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill to make the River Salwerp in the County of Worcester, and the Brooks adjoining, navigable;
The House divided.
The Yeas go forth.
Tellers for the Yeas: | Mr. Goldwell, | 65. |
Mr. Hopkins: | ||
Tellers for the Noes: | Sir Edward Hussey, | 48. |
Mr. Foley: |
So it was resolved in the Affirmative.
Importing Saltpetre.
Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill for the Importation of Saltpetre, notwithstanding the Act of Navigation.
Privilege.
Mr. Serjeant Trenchard reported from the Committee of Privileges and Elections, the Matter touching the Complaint of a Breach of Privilege against Sir William Basset, a Member of this House, by Digory Cloke, Robert Dawbin senior, and Robert Dawbin junior, in entering upon, and taking Possession of Part of the said Sir William Basset's Estate: The which he delivered in, in Writing, at the Table: Where the same was read; and is as followeth; viz.
On the Behalf of Sir William Basset was called
William Eustace: Who said, He had been in Possession of Trewandra (which is Part of the Manor of Laurake, the Estate of Sir Wm. Basset), as Sir Wm. Basset's Tenant, for Three Years and a Quarter: That he was to hold it for Five Years, at Ten Pounds a Year: That Cloke entered upon his Possession; and, with some others, not named in the Order, and so not summoned by the Committee, came and cut some of the Corn he had sowed on the said Land; and hindered him from cutting of it. But the said Eustace saved the Corn: And that he had some Hay in a Stall there locked up; which Stall was broke open, and the Hay delivered to Digory Cloke's Cattle, by Thomas Wills, his Servant: That Cloke claimed Title to the Land; and had kept him out of Possession ever since.
Peter Noyle said, He was a Servant to Sir William Basset; and looked after certain Lands, called Philbromes (which is another Part of the Manor of Laurake): That he put a Nag into the Grounds; and, next Day, it was turned into the Lanes: And that Robert Dawbin junior, and Samuell Dawbin, came to him; and called him damned Dog; and threatened to arrest him; and presented a Gun to shoot him; and offered to beat him with a Quarterstaff: That, Three or Four Days before, Robert Dawbin junior had offered Forty Pounds to Sir William Basset's Steward for a Lease; and said, If he did not take that Money, he would have the Land nevertheless.
William Benny testified to the like Effect, as to the Force offered to Noyle, and the Forty Pounds offered . . . the Lease: And said, That old Robert Dawbin's reputed Cattle was put upon the Land; and that young Dawbin said, He took Possession for his Father.
John Hawkey testified, That young Dawbin said, He took Possession for his Father; and old Dawbin's Maid milked the Cows, and his Man looked after them.
There was no Witness produced for the Persons complained against: But they, by their Counsel, insisted,
That William Eustace, being a Tenant for Term of Years, had his Remedy at Law (if any Wrong done) against Digory Cloke, or any Person else:
That there was no positive Proof of any Act against Robin Dawbin senior.
And that, upon the whole Matter, the Committee came to these Resolutions:
1st, Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That Digory Cloke, in entering upon, and taking Possession of Part of the Estate of Sir Wm. Basset, a Member of the House of Commons, during the time of Privilege of Parliament, is guilty of a Breach of the Privilege of the House.
2dly, Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That Robert Dawbin senior has not entered upon, and taken Possession of Part of the Estate of Sir William Basset, a Member of the House of Commons, during the time of the Privileges of Parliament.
3dly, Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That Robert Dawbin junior, in entering upon, and taking Possession of Part of the Estate of Sir William Basset a Member of the House of Commons, during the time of Privilege of Parliament, is guilty of a Breach of the Privileges of the House.
The First of the said Resolutions being read a Second time;
Resolved, That the House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution, That Digory Cloke, in entering upon, and taking Possession of Part of the Estate of Sir William Basset, a Member of this House, during the time of Privilege of Parliament, is guilty of a Breach of . . . Privileges of this House.
The Second Resolution being read a Second time;
Resolved, That the House doth agree with the said Committee in the said Resolution.
The Third Resolution being read a Second time;
Resolved, That Robert Dawbin junior, in entering upon, and taking Possession of Part of the Estate of Sir William Basset, a Member of this House, during the time of Privilege of Parliament, is guilty of a Breach of the Privileges of this House.
Ordered, That Digory Cloke be sent for in Custody of the Serjeant at Arms attending this House, for his Breach of the Privileges of this House, in entering upon, and taking Possession of Part of the Estate of Sir Wm. Basset, a Member of this House, in the time of Privilege of Parliament.
Ordered, That Robert Dawbin junior be sent for in Custody of the Serjeant at Arms attending this House, for his Breach of the Privileges of this House, in entering upon, and taking Possession of Part of the Estate of Sir William Basset, a Member of this House, in the time of Privilege of Parliament.
Leave of Absence.
Ordered, That the Lord Fairfax have Leave to go into the Country for a Fortnight, upon extraordinary Occasions.
Building Ships.
Mr. Boscawen, according to Order, presented to the House a Bill for encouraging the building good and defensible Ships. And the same was received.
Leave of Absence.
Ordered, That Sir John St. Aubin have Leave to go into the Country for Three Weeks, for Recovery of his Health.
Lotteries.
Ordered, That the Bill for prohibiting the Use of all Lotteries, be read the Second time upon Wednesday Morning next at Ten a Clock.
Members summoned.
Ordered, That the Serjeant at Arms do go to the several Courts in Westminster Hall, and Court of Requests; and summon the Members to attend the Service of the House.
And he went with the Mace accordingly.
And being returned;
Privilege- a Person discharged from Custody.
Edmund Bohun, Esquire, was according to Order, brought to the Bar: Where he, upon his Knees, received a Reprimand from Mr. Speaker.
Ordered, That the said Edm. Bohun be discharged out of the Custody of the Serjeant at Arms, paying his Fees.
Triennial Parliaments.
Then, according to the Order of the Day, the ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for the frequent Calling and Meeting of Parliaments, was read the First time.
And the Question being put, That the Bill be read the Second time;
The House divided.
The Yeas go forth.
Tellers for the Yeas, | Mr. Pelham, | 210. |
Mr. Harley: | ||
Tellers for the Noes, | Colonel Goldwell, | 132. |
Mr. Dyot: |
So it was resolved in the Affirmative.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a Second time upon Thursday Morning next, at Eleven a Clock.
City of London Revenues.
Then the State of the Revenues of the City of London, and of the Offices in the Disposal of the Lord Mayor and Sheriffs, and of the Charge of their Government, formerly presented to the House, was read; and is as followeth; viz.
A true State of all the Revenues of the City of London.
There are other ancient Branches of the City's Revenues, which, by reason of the late Troubles and Revolutions of Government, remain in such a State, that now no yearly Income is answered to the City from thence.
Anciently the City enjoyed all the Profits of Three Beams; viz. the King's Beam, Iron Beam, and the Steelyard Beam; and ancient Fees or Duties were answered to the City for every of them:
But the Ways and Means of recovering those Duties have been made so difficult and chargeable, by the contentious Practice of divers unfree Merchants, and by the Variation of some Opinions in Law, that the City hath made no Profit of the same for several Years: But they humbly hope, by the Aid of Parliament, their Right unto the said Duties may be recovered.
There was, in like manner, an ancient Revenue arising unto the City from the Water Bailage, both foreign and inland; the same having been granted to them by the Crown, under a Fee-farm Rent of Three hundred Pounds, payable, and duly paid to this Day, by the Sheriffs of London, into their Majesties Exchequer; but, by a Judgment, unduly obtained, as they are advised, upon a Quo Warranto brought against the City, for the said Bailage, about the same time that the illegal Quo Warranto was brought against the Being of the City, they have ever since been deprived of the said Duties of Bailage.
Yet they humbly hope to be relieved therein by the Justice of Parliament.
There were also Profits arising unto the City, very anciently, by an Office, commonly called the Outroper's Office:
But the Duties demanded for the Execution of the said Office have been, and are still, disputed by so many Merchants and others, who assume to themselves the like Powers for publick Outcry, and Sales of Goods, that no Benefit hath for many Years arisen to the City by the said Office of Outroper.
Nevertheless, as the City made their Application to this honourable House, in the last Parliament, to have their Right unto the said Office confirmed; so they humbly depend upon the Clemency and Goodness of this honourable House, to establish-the Duties of the said Offices, for the Relief of the distressed Orphans.
Reprisals out of the aforesaid Revenues.
The City pays annually, for Rents and Quit Rents, as followeth;
The City pays annually, Monies appointed by Act of Parliament, in lieu of Tythes, as followeth;
The City pays annually, on Account of Poors Rates,
And the City pays, for Legacies given by their Benefactors, as followeth;
The Lord Mayor, for the Time being, is Clerk of the Markets; and anciently, together with his Under Officers, received all the Profits thereof; and, the same being now improved to an annual Rent to the City, of Three thousand One hundred Pounds, as aforesaid, there is, in lieu thereof, allowed unto the Lord Mayor, and his Under Officers, for their Care about the said Markets, per Act of Common Council, out of the said Rent, the annual Sums following; viz.
The Offices in the Disposal of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Sheriffs of the City of London.
These Officers are nominated by the Lord Mayor and Sheriffs for the Time being, to be admitted by the Approbation of the Court of Aldermen, and hold their Places as Freeholdersquam diu se bene gesserint. By reason whereof the Disposal of such Places rarely happen to the Lord Mayor or Sheriffs; the said Officers claiming it as their Due, by Custom and antient Usage, to transfer their Places by the Permission of the Lord Mayor and Sheriffs respectively, with the Consent of the Court of Aldermen.
The Charges of the Government.
The Rent of Ten Coalmeters Places, of Eighty Pounds per Annum for each of them, have, Time out of Mind, belonged to the Lord Mayor for the Time being, for the Maintenance of several Tables for above Thirty Officers, bound to constant Attendance at the Lord Mayor's House, about the Affairs of this City: And the said Rents were never paid to the Chamber, nor esteemed Part of the publick Revenue of the Body Corporate.
There are several other incident and contingent Charges, that cannot be enumerated, nor foreseen, nor estimated, under any particular Head of Expence; which nevertheless may be of mischievous Consequence, if the City should have no way to save or raise Money to defray the same.
There is continual Danger of Fire to the publick Buildings and Offices, and also of private Houses, wherein most of the City's Revenues doth consist; and Commissions may often be granted concerning the Cleansing and Conservation of the Rivers Lee and Medway, which may happen to be chargeable; and Plague may also happen, wherein some Charity out of the Chamber of London to the Poor may be extremely necessary; and the contingent Profits from Bindings, and Inrolments of Freemen and Apprentices, and other contingent Revenues; may, in a great measure, cease; besides the great Rents of the Markets, which, by express Covenants, is to cease during such Calamities.
But we, having, to the best of our Judgments given to this honourable House a just Estimate of the Charges of the Government in prosperous Times, humbly submit all the accidental Charges that may be incident, to be considered by the great Wisdom of this honourable House. Dated the 6 December 1692.
Goodfellow.
Ordered, That the Consideration of the said State be referred to the Committee of the whole House, to whom the Consideration of the Petition of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Commonalty of the said City, touching the Orphans, is referred.
Ordered, That the Consideration of the several Petitions of William Goodwyn, and others, and of the distressed Orphans of the said City (which were formerly presented to the House), be referred to the said Committee.
London Orphans.
Resolved, That this House will, upon Saturday Morning next, at Ten a Clock, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the said Petition of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Commonalty of the City of London, touching the Orphans of the said City.
And then the House adjourned till Wednesday Morning next, Eight a Clock.