House of Commons Journal Volume 10: 9 October 1690

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 10, 1688-1693. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Jovis, 9 die Octobris; 2° Gulielmi et Mariæ.

Prayers.

Essex Election.

A PETITION of Sir Anthony Abdy, and Sir Eliab Hervey, was read; setting forth, That the Petitioners were duly elected Knights of the Shire for Essex, by the Majority of legal Freeholders, if they had been duly entered in the Poll; and divers others would have voted, if they might have so done, and had not been surprised by the sudden Closing of the Poll: Notwithstanding which, the Shriff, by Combination with Hen. Mildmay, Esquire, and Sir Fran. Masham, Baronet, . . . as duly elected for the said County: And praying the Consideration of the House in the Premises.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition be referred to the Committee of Privileges and Elections: Who are to examine the Matter thereof; and report the same, with their Opinions therein, to the House.

Wilton Election.

A Petition of Sir John Nicholas, Knight of the Bath, was read; setting forth, That the Petitioner, with Tho. Windham, Esquire, were duly elected for the Borough of Wilton: But that John Toogood, the Mayor, by indirect Practices, hath returned Sir Rich. Grubbam How, with Mr. Windham, in Injury to the Petitioner: And praying the Consideration of the House in the Premises.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition be referred to the Committee of Privileges and Elections: Who are to examine the Matter thereof; and report the same, with their Opinions therein, to the House.

Berks Election.

A Petition of several of the Freeholders of the County of Berks, was read; setting forth, That on the Twentyfourth of February last, Montague Lord Norris, and Sir Hum. Forster, were duly elected by the Majority of qualified Freeholders, to be Knights of the Shire for the County of Berks: But that the Sheriff, in wrong to the Petitioner, hath returned the said Sir Hum. Forster, and Sir Hen. Winchcombe, as duly elected: And praying the Consideration of the House in the Premises.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition be referred to the Committee of Privileges: Who are to examine the Matter thereof; and report the same, with their Opinions therein, to the House.

Prideaux's Claim on Lord Jeffryes.

A Petition of Edmund Prideaux, Esquire, was read; setting forth, That the Petitioner on the 19th Day of February 1685, was seized by a Warrant from the Lord Sunderland, and kept in custody; but could not know his Crime, or be examined; but on the Fourteenth September following, was sent close Prisoner the Tower, for High Treason; during which his Imprisonment, a general Inquiry was made by the Lord Jeffryes, and his Agents, amongst the condemned Prisoners in the West, for an Accusation against the Petitioner: But although none could be found, and notwithstanding the Petitioner's Innocence, the said Lord Jeffryes frequently gave out his Threats, That he would hang the Petitioner; the late King James, as he said, having given the Petitioner over to him: Whereupon, all other Ways being shut up, the Petitioner's Wife was forced to apply herself to the Lord Jeffryes, and was denied by him to see the Petitioner, till she had contracted with him to lay down Fifteen thousand Pounds for the Petitioner's Life; and the Petitioner, by his Hardships in the Imprisonment forced to confirm his Wife's Contract, signed Bonds, in the Tower, for Payment of the said Fifteen thousand Pounds; and accordingly paid the same in Three Days; for the which the Petitioner still pays Interest, to the great Damage of his Fortune: And praying the Consideration of the House in such the Petitioner's great Oppression; and that Leave may be given for the bringing in a Bill to make the said Lord Jeffrye's Estate liable to the Restitution of the Fifteen thousand Pounds so wrongfully extorted from the Petitioner.

Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill according to the Prayer of the said Petition.

Their Majesties appoint to be attended.

Mr. Vice Chamberlain acquainted the House, That he having waited upon his Majesty, to know, When he would please to be attended by this House; his Majesty had appointed this Afternoon at Four of the Clock, in the Banqueting House at Whitehall.

The Lord Marquis of Winchester acquainted the House, That he having attended her Majesty, to know, When she would be pleased to be attended by this House; her Majesty had appointed this Afternoon after Four of the Clock, in her Withdrawing Room at Whitehall.

Mr. Vice Chamberlain also acquainted the House, That he had, according to their Order, moved his Majesty, That a State of the War for the Year ensuing might be laid before the House: And that his Majesty had ordered the Lord Ranelagh, Paymaster of the Army, to give the House a List of the Land Forces; and also the Commissioners of the Admiralty an Estimate as to the Navy; and also the Officers of the Ordnance, as to what relates to their Office.

Army Estimate.

Accordingly the Lord Ranelagh acquainted the House, That he had, by his Majesty's Order, prepared a List, or State of the Land Forces for the next Year ready: And that his Majesty had declared, That no more thereof should be used within his own Dominions, than were absolutely necessary; and that, besides what the said State amounted unto, the Army was in Arrear Eight hundred thousand Pounds: And he delivered the said State or List in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same was read; and is as followeth; viz.

A LIST of what Forces his Majesty thinks necessary to maintain the next Year.
Horse. Troops and Companies. Number. Pay per Ann.
£. s. d.
First Troop of Guards 1 260 21,921 5 10
Second Troop of Guard 1 260 21,985 3 4
Third Troop of Guards 1 260 21,921 5 10
Troop of Scotts Guards 1 118 9,687 14 2
Royal Regiment of Horse 9 450 30,133 15 10
Sir John Lanier's 9 450 30,398 8 4
Colonel Villiers 6 300 20,634 13 4
Lord Colchester 6 300 20,634 13 4
Colonel Russell's 6 300 20,634 13 4
Colonel Godfrey's 6 300 20,634 13 4
Colonel Coyes 6 300 20,634 13 4
Colonel Langston's 6 300 20,634 13 4
Colonel Byerlye's 6 300 20,634 13 4
Count Schomberg's 6 300 20,634 13 4
French Regiment 9 450 30,398 8 4
Colonel Wolesly's 12 600 40,207 15 10
Mr. Harbord's Troop 1 50 3,254 - -
Danes: Baron Juell's 6 270 22,076 8 4
Colonel Donep's 6 270 22,076 8 4
Colonel Schested's 6 270 22,076 8 4
Dutch Troop of Guards 1 197 16,126 4 -
Regiment of Guards 6 480 30,051 8 -
Monpovillan's 3 213 13,078 18 -
Sgravenmoer's 3 213 13,078 18 -
Ginckell's 3 213 13,078 18 -
Van Oyen's 3 213 13,078 18 -
Zuylesteyn's 3 213 13,078 18 -
Schack's 3 213 13,078 18 -
Nievenhuise's 3 213 13,078 18 -
Boncom's 3 213 13,078 18 -
Reiddessell's 3 213 13,078 18 -
Total of Horse 144 8,702 605,102 14 2
Dragoons.
Royal Regiment 8 480 20,926 13 4
Colonel Leveson's 6 360 15,999 3 4
Lord Fitzharding's 6 360 15,999 3 4
Sir Tho. Levingston's 6 360 15,999 3 4
Sir Albert Cunningham's 8 480 20,707 13 4
Colonel Wynne's 8 480 20,707 13 4
Dutch: Colonel Eppinger's 10 920 32,469 8 -
Total of Dragoons 52 3,440 142,808 8 -
Foot
First Regiment of Guards 28 2,240 48,030 19 2
Second Regiment of Guards 14 1,120 24,372 17 6
Regiment of Scotts Guards 14 1,120 20,966 4 2
Royal Regiment 26 1,560 31,712 8 4
Major General Kirk's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Churchill's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Trelawnye's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Regiment of Fusileers 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Beaumont's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Stewart's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Sir John Hanmor's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Earl of Bath's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Brewer's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Hasting's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Beveridge's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Sir James Lesley's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Hales's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel O'Farrell's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Sir David Coljear's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Fitzpatrick's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Hodges's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Earl of Monmouth's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Lutterll's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Foulke's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Gust. Hamilton's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Sir George St. George's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Earl of Levin's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Duke of Bolton's Hampsh. 13 780 16,145 3 4
Duke of Bolton's North 12 720 14,968 3 -
Earl of Meath's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Lord Castleton's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Herbert's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Lieut. General Douglas's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Lord Lisbourn's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Dering's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Earl of Drogheda's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Erle's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel La Melonier's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Du Cambou's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Bellcastle's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Tiffin's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Hamilton's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel St. John's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Mitchellburne's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Earl of Angus's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Earl of Argyle's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Lord Strathnaver's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Colonel Cunningham's 13 780 16,145 3 4
Upnor Company 1 50 863 16 8
Company of Miners 1 50 1,733 15 -
Company of Fusiliers 1 60 1,195 7 6
New Yorke Companies 2 120 2,354 5 -
Company in the Leeward Islands 1 60 1,177 2 6
Danes Battalion of Guards 7 700 14,207 12 6
Queen's Battalion 6 600 12,288 6 8
Prince Frederick's Battalion 6 600 12,288 6 8
Prince Christian's Battalion 6 600 12,142 6 8
Prince George's Battalion 5 500 10,095 5 10
The Zealand Battalion 6 600 12,142 6 8
The Jutland Battalion 6 600 11,978 1 8
The Tunish Battalion 6 600 11,978 1 8
Dutch Regiment of Guards 27 2,634 56,851 13 6
Col. Babington's Regiment 12 840 15,097 - -
Colonel Lloyd's 12 840 15,097 - -
Colonel Cutz's 12 840 15,097 - -
Count Nassaw's 12 840 15,171 8 -
Prince of Brandenburgh's 12 840 15,171 8 -
Colonel Groven's 12 840 15,171 8 -
Major General Mackay's 12 1,200 19,933 - -
Colonel Lander's 12 1,200 19,933 - -
Colonel Ramsey's 12 1,200 19,933 - -
Total of Foot 855 57,494 1,162,648 14 2
Total of Horse, Dragoons, and Foot 1,051 69,636 1,910,560 7 -

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said State be referred to the Committee of the whole House, to whom it is referred to consider of a Motion for a Supply to be given to their Majesties.

Public Accompts.

Also Mr. Vice Chamberlain acquainted the House, That he had a Book of the publick Accompts, and a fair Transcript, in Part, thereof, to present to the House: And he delivered the same in also at the Clerk's Table.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Books be also referred to the Committee of the whole House, who are to consider of the Motion for a Supply to be given to their Majesties.

Ordered, That the Lords Commissioners of the Treasury be desired to bring in an Abstract of the said Accompts.

Ordered, That the Two Books of the Publick Accompts, this Day delivered into this House by Mr. Vice Chamberlain, be re-delivered to the Lords Commissioners of the Treasury, as they shall have Occasion, to prepare and make an Abstract thereof, for the Service of this House; they returning the said Books again to this House.

Commissioners of Accompts.

Ordered, That a Bill be brought in for the examining and taking the publick Accompts: And it is recommended to Sir Wm. Whitlock to prepare and bring in the same.

Navy Estimate.

Then Sir Thomas Lee, one of the Commissioners of the Admiralty, acquainted the House, That he had, by his Majesty's Order, an Estimate of the Navy for the Year ensuing, including the Ordnance, to present to the House: And he delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same was read; and is as followeth;

An ESTIMATE for the Charge of the Navy for the Year 1691, and building some Ships; in which the Ordnance is concluded.
Men. Months.
Summer Fleet 28,710 for 8
Winter Fleet 51,150 5
Convoys and Cruisers, being, for various Months, reduced to 7,071 13
£. s. d.
Which, being reduced to Thirteen Months, amounts to Twenty-nine thousand and Twenty-six Men for that Time; and, in Money, to 1,603,686. 10. -
Ordinary Charge of the Navy 100,000 - -
Building Three Third-rate Ships, Eight Fireships, Eight Ketches, and a Dock at Plymouth, 88,008 11 6
Total £. 1,791,695 1 6

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Estimate be referred to the Committee of the whole House; who are to consider of the Motion for a Supply to be given to their Majesties.

Ordnance Estimate.

Sir Thomas Littleton acquainted the House, That he had an Accompt from the Office of the Ordnance to present to the House: And he delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same was read; and is as followeth; viz.

The Lieutenant General, and the rest of the Principal Officers of their Majesties Ordnance, humbly lay before this honourable House, pursuant to Order, That they have delivered in a State of all Monies whatsoever received and issued by the Office of Ordnance, from January 1688, to Midsummer last, to the Right honourable the Lords Commissioners of their Majesties Treasury; and likewise an Account of the Value of Stores brought in and issued during the said Time.

They now demand for the ensuing Year (which, by reason of the State of the War is not yet adjusted, can be no otherwise estimated than in gross) One Eighth Part of the whole Charge of the Navy, and One Fifth Part of the Army to be allowed, for the Charge the Office of Ordnance must be at in relation to the said Service.

H. Goodricke, Tho. Littleton, C. Musgrave.

Supply.

Then the House, according to the Order of Yesterday, resolved into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the Motion for a Supply to be given to their Majesties.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair.

Mr. Solicitor General took the Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Mr. Solicitor General reported from the Committee of the whole House, That they, having taken the Matter to them referred into Consideration, had come to a Resolution: Which he read in his Place; and afterwards, delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same was read; and is as followeth; viz.

Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That a Supply be given to their Majesties for the intire Reducing of Ireland, and securing the Peace of this Kingdom, and carrying on a vigorous War against France.

The said Resolution being read a Second time;

Resolved, Nemine contradicente, That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution, That a Supply be given to their Majesties for the intire Reducing of Ireland, and securing the Peace of this Kingdom, and carrying on a vigorous War against France.

Mr. Solicitor General also acquainted the House, That he was directed by the Committee to move the House, That they might have Leave to sit again To-morrow Morning, to consider further of the Supply to be given to their Majesties.

Resolved, That this House will, To-morrow Morning, at Ten of the Clock, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Supply to their Majesties.

And then the House adjourned till Three of the Clock in the Afternoon.

Post Meridiem.

House attend their Majesties.

THE House met, in order to attend their Majesties:

And then the House adjourned till To-morrow Morning, Nine of the Clock.

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