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In this section
Mercurii, 1 Junii
Whalley's Debt.
L.1. AN Act to make void divers Statutes, &c. continued upon the Lands of Mr. Whalley, to defraud Sir Robert Wynde of his just Debt.
Campe's Estate.
L. 1. An Act for the Ratifying and Confirming of the Sale of certain Lands and Tenements, in Kessingland, within the County of Suffolke, formerly made, towards the Payment of the Debts of Benedict Campe, Gentleman, deceased ; and likewise for the Sale of other Lands, late the said Benedict Campe's, for Payment of his other Debts.
Hull, &c.
Hull and Muscovy, - upon Tuesday next.
King's Col. Cambridge.
L. 1. An Act for Confirmation of an Indenture of Covenant and Agreement, made in 21o Eliz. between the Provost and Scholars of King's College in Cambridge, Lords of the Manors of Rinslipp, within the County of Middlesex, and the Tenants there, concerning Fines and Herryots within the same Manor.
Usury.
L. 1. An Act against Usury, and Exactions of Scriveners , and Brokers, in procuring Money upon Interest.
New Buildings, Inmates, &c.
L. 2. An Act against new Buildings, dividing of Houses, receiving of Inmates, and severing of Fields, in and near about the Cities of London and Westmynster. -
Mr. Prowse: - That this Bill rejected the last Parliament : So would have it now; for that it will thrust all the Poor from London into the Country.
Mr. Alford: - To have the Bill committed; for else there will be such Increase of Poor, as will draw Infection. &c. - Moveth, it may be considered; and the Committee to consider of a Provision against erecting of Play-houses.
Sir George Moore, - for committing the Bill.
Sir Jo. Savyle: - That the Charge of some Parish, where he dwelleth, risen to
3 or 400 l. all this by reason of Inmates. - Moveth, a general Law against Inmates.
Mr. Ashley, - for the committing it.
Sir Wm. Strowde, - against the Bill. - To have it cast.
Mr. Fuller, - for the Bill.
Mr. Thorpe, - to commit it: So Sir Jo. Johnson.
Sir H. Poole, - against the Bill.
Sir Ro. Owen, - for committing it. - That Orders in Parliament, temp. H. VI. that no Butcher should kill any Meat, nearer London, Eastward, than Stratford-bow, nor Westward, than Kensington. That all the Suburbs in Parys pulled down.
Mr. Mallet, accordant.
Mr. . . . accordant. -
Committed to his Majesty's Privy Council, Sir Roger Owen, Mr. Thorpe, Sir Edw. Gyles, Mr. Prowde, Knights and Burgesses for London, Sir H. Neville, Sir H. Glemham, Sir Tho. Smyth, Sir Francis Popham, Sir Wm. Walter, Sir Ro. Brett, Mr. Chibborne, Sir George Moore, Sir Ro. Johnson, Sir Ro. Philiippes, Sir D. Digges, Sir Maw. Berkeley, all the Lawyers of the House, Sir Jo. Savyle, Mr. Rich. Berkeley, all the Knights of Shire, Mr. Askue, Sir Ro. Moore, Mr. Alford, Mr. Duncombe, Sir Tho. Grymes: This Day sevennight, in the Chequer Court.
Privilege - Reflections on the House.
The Answer from the Lords read again.
Reflections Sir Ro. Owen: - Detesteth all that love not Superiority among Ministers. -
That the Words are not denied, only his Intention excused. - Moved much by his Tears privately to Sir Edw. Hobby, publickly in the House Yesterday. - That yet this moveth him not, as a Member of this -
That, upon less Occasion, greater Lords than he, sent down to this Bar. -
The Lords Message via lactea, in the Beginning; via lutea, in the latter End. - Disliketh their directing us in our Proceedings. -
Moveth, a Sub-committee of a few, to consider of a fit Course to proceed further against the Bishop.
Sir W. Chute adviseth to go immediately to the King, to desire him not to dissolve the Parliament, till he know our Griefs, and we consider his Wants.
Sir Ro. Phillippes moveth for a Committee, to consider of the Slightness of the Satisfaction of the Lords Answer, and of the Unfitness of their Direction for our Proceedings; which we neither expect, nor respect.
Sir James Perrott: - That the Bishop's Tears not for Sorrow (for acknowledgeth no Error) but that -
That the Tears of Fear and Terror, not of Repentance. -
To go no more to the Lords. -
That, in favour of a Recusant, he hath certified, under his Hand and Seal, that he was conformable. That only upon Sight of one, directed by him to be there in the King's Chapel, he certified his Conformity; which implieth the taking of the Oath of Allegiance, and Supremacy; which he never did.
Moveth, Mr. Speaker may give a Warrant for seizing that Recusant, who was thus -
Moveth, to go to the King.
Mr. Glanvyle: - Impliedly confessed, that the Words spoken: The Intention denied; which by Law not examinable; because no Man, or Devil, can know or try the Heart of Man.
Sir Mawr. Berkeley: - 1. Message to the Lords, to let them know we have such Ground for these Words.
2. That no Proportion between the Fault, and his Punishment.
3. That our Proceedings for the King's Business -
4. That, by this slight Message, they teach us a Lesson, we unwilling to learn. -
Doubteth, whether best to go to the King, before we have done something here, which may make our Message to the King more acceptable.
Mr. Monperson moveth, a Committee; and, whether not fit for an Order to be entered here, that, whensoever the like Occasion shall happen concerning the Lords. -
Sir Tho. Rowe: - That this no Answer, for no Relative in it to our Charge. - Not to go yet to the King. - A select Committee, to consider of the Course holden between the Lords, and us; and an Order -
2. An Order, to declare him, in the Opinion of the Commons, to be unfit for the King's Ear, House, the Place he holdeth, or the Society of reasonable Men.
Sir Wm. Walter moveth, a Committee to consider of a Course to [go] to the King by a Petition; therein to acquaint the King with the Passages of this Business, between the Lords, and us.
Mr. Bulstrode secondeth Sir James Perrott's Motion, for sending for the Recusant, &c.
Mr. Duncombe: - To have this Warrant presently made before the House rise.
Sir Symeon Steward moveth Consideration of a Message to the Lords, to clear our Discretion, impeached by their Answer.
2. To go to the Lords; and if no Redress there, then to resort to our own Power.
Mr. Griffynn: - That any Man that knoweth any thing -
Ordered, upon the Question, That a Warrant shall be made forthwith for such a Person, or Persons as Sir James Perrott, or Mr. Hackwill, or any other of this House, shall nominate to Mr. Speaker, concerning the Matter in Question.
Sir D. Digges, - to have the House sit this Afternoon, about this Matter.
Ordered, upon the Question, That a select Committee shall consider what is fit further to be done in this Matter concerning the Bishop of Lincolne.
All the Privy Council, Mr. Attorney-general, Sir Roger Owen, Sir H. Nevill, Sir Ro. Philiippes, Sir Edw. Sands, Sir Ed. Mountague, Sir Tho. Hobby, Sir D. Digges,
Sir Walter Chute, Mr. Hoskyns, Sir A. Cope, Sir Wm. Tate, Mr. Jo. Dunn, Sir Francis Goodwyn, Sir Rich. Verney, Sir Rich. Weston, Sir Sam. Sands, Sir Symeon Steward, Sir Jo. Savyle, Sir James Perrott: Any, that will come, to have Voices : - This Afternoon, in this House.
Sabaoth.
Committees for the Conference about the Sabaoth:
All the Committees in the Bill of the Sabaoth, whereof there are Thirty; all the Privy Council, the King's learned Counsel, Sir Jo. Crooke, Sir Tho. Mawnsell, Sir Tho. Wharton, Sir Rich. Buckeley, Sir Wm. Tate, Sir Tho. Lowe, Sir Tho. Smyth, Sir Francis Vane, Mr. Leonard, Sir W. Heale, Sir Walter Covert, Sir Edw.... my Lord Clifford, Sir Wm. Cavendish, Sir Tho. Jermyn.
French Patent, &c.
Sir Edw. Gyles moveth concerning the French Patent:
And Saturday Morning appointed for the Committee for that Patent, and for the Patent of Glasses.
Not to sit on Ascension day.
Sir Tho. Hobby, Sir Ro. Johnson, Mr. Fuller: - To sit upon Ascension day.
Sir Edw. Hobby, Sir H. Poole, contra.
Sir J. Horsey: - To sit.
Sir Symeon Steward, contra; Sir A. Cope, pro.
The House divided:
The Yea went out, though much questioned :
Tellers for the Noe: Sir Edward Hobby, Sir H. Poole.
for the Yea, Sir Jerome Horsey, Sir Tho. Hobby :
With the Yea, 141.
With the Noe, 248. -
Not to sit To-morrow.
Mercurii, 1o Junii. Post meridiem.
Complaint against Bp. of Lincoln.
Mr. Duncombe relateth their Proceedings, to seek after Francis Lovett, the Recusant; who could not be found. -
. . Thomson, Servant to Mr. Tryst, for Ten Years past, knoweth Mr. Francis Lovett: Hath known him Seven Years : Hath heard him confess (upon Occasion of coming to him about a Decree) - that he coming to him, to sue some Bonds, he found a Writing, under a great Seal; which was a Certificate from the Bishop of Lichfeild, that he had taken the Oath of Supremacy, or Allegiance, (knoweth not, whether) and had conformed himself. -
That, asking, whether he had taken the Oath; he answered, No ; but that the Bishop had appointed him to come, and stand in the midst of the King's Chapel, to hear divine Service, that he might see him. That the Bishop's Man placed him there. - Confessed, he paid for it 20 s. and odd Money; whereof the Bishop had 13s. 4d. his Man the Residue. -
That he never saw him at Church; but hath heard him say, he would come to Church, if he could be resolved of some Questions.
Sir Francis Goodwyn: - Fit to be examined, whether any other Consideration for this Certificate, besides the 20s. for that it was not in the Bishop's Diocese, being then Bishop of Lichfeild.
Sir Wm. Walter observ. . . .
Demanded, how long sithence he saw this Certificate; answered, it was a littlel before Easter, at Tryste's House, at Cudworth, in Northamptonshyre. That then he was (as appeared by a Bill, he gave him, for Money owing for Charges disbursed by him for Lovett) of ... a Place in Buckinghamshyre, under the Diocese of the Bishop of Lincolne.
Sir Tho. Lake: - That the King, hearing of this Business, sent for the Bishop; and, in the Presence of his Council, demanded of him, what he had done in it.
Mr. Spiller, upon Friday Morning, to certify the House, what he knoweth concerning any Certificate, made into the Exchequer, for Francis Lovett's, Conformity.