House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 04 May 1614

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Mercurii, 4o Maii

Sir J. Perrot.

SIR James Perrot -

Recusants.

Ordered, Upon the Question, That the Matter for Recusants, shall be handled on Monday in the Afternoon, in this House, all other Business set apart.

Committing of Bills.

Sir George Moore moveth, that more Care may be taken for committing of Bills, and for nominating fewer Committees.

Court of Wards.

Mr. Solicitor bringeth in a Bill concerning the Court of Wards : 1. Against Continuance of Liveries.

L. 1. An Act to restrain the Continuance of Liveries, and bringing in of Evidences into the Court of Wards; and for returning of the Counterparts of Offices and Inquisitions into the said Court,

Charter-house.

L. 1. An Act for Confirmation of the Foundation of the Hospital of King James, founded in Charter-house,within the County of Middlesex, at the humble Petition, and only Cost and Charges, of Tho. Sutton Esquire.

Transporting Ordnance,&c.

L. 1. An Act against the Transportation of Iron Ordnance, Gun Metal, and Iron Shot, or any other Iron.

Crown Debts

L. 2. The Bill concerning Assignment of Debts to the Crown. -

Mr. Crew: - That this Bill a Remedy in tanto, but not in toto: - Moveth, the latter Part of the Bill might answer the former Part.

Mr. Fuller: - That the Law is not that a Debt by Obligation being assigned to the King, should be in Nature of a Statute Staple. - To have the Preferment in Payment to the King, fit; but not the other.

Mr. Alford: - The Mischief that groweth by exacting of old Debts. - Reciteth many Particulars of his own Case.

Mr. Serjeant: - That this as fit for Relief by Parliament, as any other. - That maketh no doubt but shortly we shall understand his Majesty's Pleasure, to the full Satisfaction of all.

Mr. Middleton: - The chief Reason of these Assignments, the new Fees. - Moveth, no Tradesman -

Mr. Attorney: - Their Care that these Bills may not be as the City*, which might run out at the Gates. - That Sense reacheth further than Understanding. - That Argos Eyes better than any One Eye. - That this Assign-

ment abuseth the King's Prerogative. Non dabit honorem suum alteri. - The Sun excellent: Bring it too nigh, it burneth all. - That the King's proper Debt recoverable by Body, Lands, and Goods, at once. That, by the Law, a Debt assigned, recoverable as the King's own Debt; for may take a Chose in Action: Therefore a Matter of Grace and not of Due. - Fit, his Majesty should have Remedy for so much as truly owing him; yet, at the Committee, will be willing to hear Reason. -

Is persuaded, the King meaneth both the Morning Rain, - these Bills - Grace; the Old Debts by a Pardon; which thinketh this shall be the latter Rain. -

Sir Edw. Mountague: - That every Man may speak, that will.

Mr. Bawtry: - Remembereth an old Statute, that the King shall not take of the Debtor of the Debtor, as long as his own Debtor sufficient. -

Committed to the Committees in the Two former Bills of Grace, except Wales: - To-morrow in the Afternoon, in the Court of Wards.

Glass Patent.

Sir Edw. Sands reporteth the Business of the Patent of Glass. -

The Question only, whether this a Patentof Monopoly, or a Patent of Privilege. -

That resolved by the Committee, that the King's calling in the Patent of J. Bowes and Salter, just. -

That offered by the Merchants, that if all these Patents might be called in, which now are for making Glasses, that should be sold here (by Importation for 3 d. ob.) which now costeth 16 d.

Mr. Francis Moore: - Leather, Stockings, Brushes, Glasses. -

That all their Pretences publick Good; their End, private Gain. - That the King, at his first coming, heard the Patent of Tin, and then revoked it, so long as it stood upon a Monopoly ; but after came in, when he undersood the Dukes of Cornewayle had had always Preemption. - His Proclamation accordingly, which took divers of them away. - The Joy bred by this in the People : - Laquei dissoluti; nos liberati. - Sheweth the Proceedings. - Commissioners for Suits, Privy Council, Judges. - His Ends good.

Not to be new Inventors of the Means, but of the Thing. -

The Time for Privilege not infinite. - That to him, and his Heirs: So no Apprentices, or Servants, to take Fruit of it; but first Rogues, and then whipped. -

Arthur Leggott's Case, in my Lord Cooke's last Book.

- Monopolies joined with Concealments, troublesome, and fruitless: The Examination of them here not new. - Beache's Case, for sweet Wines, examined and cancelled, in Parliament, 5 Ed. III. -

Monopolies against the Law. - A Dyer took a Bond of his Apprentice, that he should not use that Trade in that Town; and judged void. -

Dr. Bonham's Case: Ruled, that he might practise Physick, against the Patent, and Act of Parliament, for the Physicians.

Ordered, upon the Question, That this a Patent of Monopoly.

2. That this Patent to be brought in upon Friday next, sedente Curia.

Message from King.

A Message from his Majesty, whom Yesterday, and not before sithence the Parliament, he attended.

Committees.

To-morrow in the Afternoon all those Committees to meet, which were to have met this Afternoon; and in the same Places.