Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
This free content was digitised by double rekeying. Public Domain.
'House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 22 May 1610', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629(London, 1802), British History Online https://prod.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol1/pp430-431 [accessed 19 April 2025].
'House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 22 May 1610', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629(London, 1802), British History Online, accessed April 19, 2025, https://prod.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol1/pp430-431.
"House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 22 May 1610". Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629. (London, 1802), British History Online. Web. 19 April 2025. https://prod.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol1/pp430-431.
In this section
Martis, 22o Maii, 1610
Butler.
L. 1. - BUTLER.
Prisons.
Keepers of Prisons: - Court of Wards, Tomorrow.
Arundell.
Mr. Hakewill reporteth the Bill of Mr. Arundell of Trerise. - Ingrossetur,
King's Speech - Impositions.
Sir Francis Hastings, - touching his Majesty's Speech.
His Majesty made a publick Claim of Matter of Impositions, to his Court of Parliament. -
His Majesty then hath a Power in all our Properties. -
For a Committee to consider of some Satisfaction between the King and the Subject: - To do it dutifully, carefully, and strongly.
Sir Edw. Grevill: - That as much as his Progenitors.
Sir Tho. Beamount: - A Fear, that our whole Liberty be swallowed up. - For a Committee, how far.
Sir Chro. Perkins: - To set Impositions by a Rule.
Mr. Tate: - You Privileges, I Prerogative. - If the first abused, I take away; - Your Wrong: - If I abuse, will you take away wholly ? -
Impositions: - Whether the Beginning by Prerogative, or by Grant of the Subject. - The Strangers Custom, greater, by Grant first.
Men may not transfer all their Moveables. - The Reason of all Prerogative. - Need no Committee.
Mr. Wentworth: - H. VI. Time - Fortescue: - Impositions not regal, but political. -
Preces et lacrymae, our only Means. -
To consider our Rights among ourselves. - For a Committee.
Mr. Chancellor: - Love to the House, Duty to the King. -
Passed, by way of an Answer, to an Objection. - No Defence for Impositions upon the Land. -
Quest. of Merchandize imported or exported. -
Not to dispute what is Law; rather to ask the Judges what is the Law. -
Move nothing against the Speech; but rather attend something that is like to come more acceptable. - No Committee.
Sir Jo. Sammes : - Fit, and dutiful.
Mr. Fuller: - It was disputed in the Exchequer; why not here ? - For a Committee.
Mr. May: - The King sensible of Sovereignty, the Commons of Liberty.
Mr. Whytlock: - The King made a Claim of his Right:
- Not de quanta, sed de quota parte - Ne inhaereat nepotibus nostris. -
Masters of their own: - Cannot be taken without
Consent. - Laws cannot, without Consent. -
Parliament a Store-house of Liberty. -
In Civil Law, placitum principis habet vim legis. -
Tonage, &c. in Satisfaction of arbitrary Impositions,
- For a Committee.
Mr. Speaker: - That a Motion for a Committee, to consider in what Manner of Satisfaction: - To examine and petition.
Sir Geo. Moore: - That Gentlemen that took Notes, might set down what his Majesty's Speech was.
Mr. Chub: - To forbear a while.
Mr. Recorder: - That Notes might be compared, and the Speech understood.
Mr. Lewknor: - To expect what will come from the King.
Mr. Speaker: - Three Things:
1. Satisfaction touching Impositions.
2. Expectation what will come from the King.
3. Collecting the King's Speech. -
Mr. Speaker: - To begin first with the last.
Sir Herbert Crofts: - for the first to be first put to Question.
Sir Nath. Bacon: - No gathering of the King's Speeches. - A Committee, to consider what Impositions.
Mr. Chancellor. -
Mr. Speaker, - for the Order on Saturday Sennight.
Sir Edwyn Sandys: - To consider of the former Order, and of the King's Motion in his Speech likewise.
Quest. Whether the Committee: - Resolved. -
What Course is fit to take in the Matter of Impositions; by Occasion of the King's Speech.
Committees, &c.
All Committees this Afternoon, to hold To-morrow.
Sir Henry Poole :- - That all the Members of the House might ....
Thursday, Mr. Myldmay.
Sir George Booth: - Thursday.