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Mercurii, 11o Julii, 1610
Several Orders.
INMATES: - This Day
Brokers : - To-morrow.
Sir Vincent Skynner, - touching Rich. Orrell: - To come and go free. - The Committees removed to Temule Hall.
Assignments of Debts, re-committed.
New Rivers : - This Afternoon.
Ash and Deane: - Friday.
Ambassadors Children: - The same Day.
Oath of Allegiance.
L. 3. B. - Oath of Allegiance: - Upon Question, passed.
Damerham.
L. 3. B. - Damerham - Passed.
Grievances.
Sir Edwyn Sandys, - touching the Priority of the Bills that are to accompany the Grievances.
Supply.
Mr. Chancellor: - That all Counsels in the Name of God ought to begin, - From his Heart true and good Counsel. -
The Plague increasing, - the Time threatened. - Little done in Six Months; nothing but Matter of Grievances. -
In Matter of Government he will give Answer before the End of the Session. -
Matter of Profit: -
Sea-coal:
Alehouses :
Licences for Wine :
Drapery:
New Impositions.
Mr. Dyett: - We have had Answer in Part: \Ve expect Answer more, - To give something to his Majesty, for Contentment, in Hope of a good Answer.
Sir Wm. Morrice: - pro Rege, lege, et grege. - For Three Subsidies. - The same Man he was at the Beginning.
Mr. Dammett: - For Two, or Three Subsidies.
Mr. Recorder: - We have heard Moses and a Prophet Yesterday. - Two Subsidies, and Four Fifteens.
Sir H. Poole: - One Subsidy, and Two Fifteens.
Sir Wm. Maynard: - Two Subsidies, and no Fifteens, because they pinch the Poor.
Sir Geo. More : - Two Subsidies, and Four Fifteens, in Two Years.
Mr. Irby: - Never Two Subsidies till 31. at One Time.
- One Subsidy now; another resolved to be granted, and to be granted the next Session.
Sir Nich. Saunders: - That neither Wales, nor Northern Cinque Ports, nor Northern Counties, to be exempted.
Sir Edwyn Sandys: - That the Northern Counties are bound by the former Statutes ; Cinque Ports, out of the Proviso. - Moved, that these might have Burgesses.
Sir John Sammes: - No Exemption, because they gain by the Certificate.
Sir John Boys: - That they have found Ships in time of Navigation.
Mr. Speaker readeth the Proviso to exempt.
Sir John Mallorie: - Rather Two Subsides, and no Fifteen, than One Subsidy, and Two Fifteens.
Mr. Chancellor: - Mr. Irby, that -
No Subsidy since 40o Eliz. not above 78,000l. every Fifteen, 29,000l. certain. - Subsidy riseth and falleth. -
In 8o Eliz. Subsidy was 120,000l. Then, in London, 8,000 l. now, 4,000l.
Sir John Luson .- - One Subsidy, and Two Fifteens.
Mr. Whytson: - No Fifteen, but Subsidy.
Mr. Mercer : - Two Subsidies, and no Fifteens.
Sir Edwyn Sandys: - It it were in regard of War, then a Fifteen; if in any other regard, of Magnificence, then no Fifteen.
Sir John Harpur: - If Gentlemen for their Demesnes pay rateably, then a Fifteen may be very well.
Mr. Fuller : - One Subsidy, One Fifteen.
Mr. Tey . - No Fifteen.
Sir Wm. Strowd, Mr. Staughton : - No Fifteen.
Mr. Alford; - One Subsidy, and pay presently.
1. Q. Whether any Fifteen.
The House divided:
Tellers.
with the Noe, Sir Herbert Crofts, Sir Wm. Wray : 129
with the Yea, Mr. Chancellor, Sir Walter Cope: 149
Fifteens to be granted.
Much Dispute, what should be the Question.
Sir Herbert Crofts: - Justice from the King, Obedience from the Subject; Grace from the King, Benevolence from the Subject. - No giving, until an Answer.
Quest. Whether Two Fifteens:
145 Noe : Sir Jo. Egerton, Sir Geo. St. Poll:
Yea, 130. Mr. Chancellor, Sir Walter Cope. -
One Fifteen only to be granted.
Question made, Whether to give the King a Subsidy, and One Fifteen : - Resolved, upon Question.
Much Dispute about the Time.
Resolved, The first Payment of the Subsidy, in November ; the Fifteen in February; the second in May.
The King's Counsel to draw the Bill in Form.