House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 08 June 1604 (2nd scribe)

Veneris, 8 Die Junii, 1604

Littleton's Restitution.

THE Bill of Restitution in Blood of Thomas Littleton, eldest Son of John Littleton, late of Frankley in the County of Wigorne, Esquire, deceased, John Littleton, Second Son of the said John Littleton deceased, and Edw. Littleton, third Son of the said John Littleton deceased ; Bridget Littleton, eldest Daughter of the said John Littleton deceased, Ann Littleton, second Daughter, &c. - First Reading.

Gordon's Nat.

The Bill for the Naturalizing of John Gordon, Dean of Sarum, his Wife and Children : - First Reading.

Brewers, &c.

The Bill for the Repressing of Abuses in Brewers, Ale-house-keepers against the Laws, reported from the Committee, by Mr. Pettus, with Amendments; and the Amendments read ; and, upon the Question, rejected.

Tebold's Estate.

Mr. Hadds, of Lincolnes Inn, bringeth in, from the Committee, the Bill to enable John Tebold, Gentleman, to make his Wife a Jointure, with Amendments. The Amendments read; and, upon the Question, ordered to be ingrossed.

Shooting.

Mr. Winch bringeth from the Committee, the Bill for the better Explanation of the Intent and Meaning of former Statutes, touching the Destroying of Phesants and Partridges, &c. with Amendments; and ordered to be ingrossed, upon much Dispute. -

Mr. James, Mr. Middleton, Mr. Bond. -

Amended, in Two or Three Places, in the Paper Book.

Upon the Question, ordered to be ingrossed,

Penning's Release.

The Bill for the Frustrating of a Release, unduly procured by Edmund Penning: - Second Reading, and committed to Sir Lewis Lewknor, Sir John Hobart, Sir John Shirley, Mr. Martin, Sir Rob. Mansfield, Sir John Bennett, Sir John Hollice, Sir Law. Tanfield, Sir Henry Compton, Mr. D. James, Sir John Scott, Sir Dan. Dun, Sir Edw. Grevill, Sir Edw. Denny, Mr. Hitcham, Sir Henry Hobart, Mr. Hare, Sir Jo. Savill, Mr. Ryvett, Mr. Oxborough, Sir Geo. Moore, Sir Edw. Lewknor, Sir Rob. Drury, Mr. Toby Matthewe, Sir Rob. Wroth, Mr. Serjeant Barker, Mr. Alford, Sir Fr. Bacon : - Monday, Chequer Chamber.

Ecclesiastical Affairs.

Sir Fr. Hastings, - touching the Sub-committee, for Religion, conferring at Whytehall, upon Monday last, with the Sub-committee, for Religion, from the Lords. -

Part undertaken by the Lords, Part by us. -

That, which we have, are in Bill; viz. - Learned Ministry and Pluralities. -

Some Points in Petition, and not by Bill. -

An Instrument read by a Bishop.

A Mislike, that the Common House should deal in any Matters of Religion. -

A Mislike of the Bishops Conference with us.

That it prejudged the Liberties of the Church.

That, if the Bishops would not desist, they would appeal to the King, who had given them Authority to deal only in these Matters. - Convocation-house. -

To proceed in a Petition by ourselves, seeing the Bishops refuse to join with us.

Mr. Nath. Bacon . - That, for all Matters, induced into the Church, savouring of Popery, we might proceed in a Petition by ourselves.

Mr. Winch : - A Purpose of proceeding against Ministers, by the Bishops.

Sir Edw. Hobby; - That 20, least affected to a Convocation, should consider, what Precedents for dealing in all ecclesiastical Causes.

Sir Vincent Skynner; - That since, by our Writ, we are called to consult of Matters for the Church, and Common-wealth, we to make an Act against the former Protestation of Bishops, and protest against them.

Mr. Wyseman: - That we should proceed with a Conscience of Religion.

Sir Tho. Holcroft: - That we should proceed to send for the Instrument, the better to digest our Petition.

Sir John Hollice, - the same; and Committees named.

Mr. Hedley -

Sir Waller Cope: - 2 H. IV. Precedents, touching Laws for Non-residents; and divers other Precedents.

Mr. Martin -

Sir Wm. Bulstrod: - Not to send for the Instrument, till we know, whether it be Fault of the Convocation-house.

Sir Edw. Hext : - That the Bishops Canons might be looked into, by which the Subject is sued, and much grieved.

Sir Edw. Lewknor: - That a select Committee, for a Petition.

Mr. Tate: - Some of this House be of the Convocation : They to be enjoined to bring in a Copy, and a Copy of the Letters of Authority to the Convocation.

Mr. Yelverton ; - An Act of Parliament bind the Matter of Ceremony, more than a Convocation Pamphlet. -

Papists get too much Encouragement out of the Convocation-house. -

To let the Lords know our Grief, and that they are wounded immediately. -

To draw a Petition, to beg Mercy for the Ministers, threatened by the Bishops, and inhibited to preach, for fruitless Ceremonies.

Mr. Fuller: - Petition, that we might make Laws to bind, as well as to beg Mercy.

Sir Geo. Moore -

Mr. Speaker, - touching such of the Convocation, of the House, as ought not to be here.

Qu. double: That the great Committee, for Matters of Religion, to chuse a Sub-committee, to consider of Precedents of Privilege in this Kind:

To advise of a Petition, to present to the King, to dispense with Ministers, for some Dispensation with indifferent Matters. -

Privilege - Reflections on the House.

Mr. Cole reporteth the Matter of Conference between a Doctor of the Convocation-house, touching Scandal and Scorn to this House.

Q, Whether the Doctor shall be named : - Agreed - Mr. D. Howson. -

The Time of Meeting, Chequer Chamber, on Monday in the Afternoon.

First to prepare themselves, by a Meeting amongst themselves.