Minute Book: April 1711, 2-14 | British History Online

Calendar of Treasury Books, Volume 25, 1711. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1952.

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'Minute Book: April 1711, 2-14', in Calendar of Treasury Books, Volume 25, 1711, ed. William A Shaw( London, 1952), British History Online https://prod.british-history.ac.uk/cal-treasury-books/vol25/pp37-50 [accessed 24 November 2024].

April 1711



April 2, forenoon.	Present: Earl Poulett, Mr. Pagett, Sir Thomas Mansell, Mr. Benson.
	[My Lords direct] 300l. to be issued to Mr. How to satisfy a contingent warrant to Sir John Gibson.
	[Write to] the Board of Ordnance to send by to-morrow morning an account of the demand made by the King of Portugal for powder, how much has been paid and what remains still due (pursuant to the Treaties) to the end of the last year.
	[My Lords direct the issue to the Navy Treasurer of] 4,000l. for [seamen's wages] tickets [payable] by Act of Parliament [4–5 Anne, c. 6, clause 12]: to be issued out of loans on the eleventh 4s. Aid anno 1708.
	Write to the Secretary at War to transmit weekly an account of all the Troops in Great Britain, where they severally [are] quartered and what their effective numbers are.
	Mr. Bridges is [ordered] forthwith to assign to Sir Henry Furnese 45,000l. of the tallies in his hands on Land Tax and on Malt reserved for him towards satisfaction for 100,000l. agreed to be furnished in Portugal on Novr. 20 last; and that Mr. Brydges in assigning the orders do take care to compute the interest incurred thereupon as so much principal money in further part of the said 100,000l. and do lay before my Lords an exact account of the said interest computed to this day to the end a proper warrant may be given to the Auditors to surcharge him [Brydges] therewith in his accounts.
	Mr. Auditor Harley [is] called in and delivers back the draft of the Instructions for John Chetwynd, Esq., her Majesty's Envoy to the Duke of Savoy, in relation to the extraordinary expenses of the war in Piedmont; and upon his acquainting my Lords that Mr. Chetwynd made some objections to the 4th and 6th articles of the said Instructions he [Chetwynd] was called in, and upon hearing of him thereupon my Lords directed some alterations to be made in the said two articles; and that the whole should be transmitted to the Secretary at War to be prepared for her Majesty's royal sign manual. Ibid., p. 196.
April 3, forenoon.	Present: Earl Poulett, Mr. Pagett, Sir Thomas Mansell.
	My Lords having considered of a paper which was lately laid before the [Privy] Council containing [an Establishment for the] charge of 2,000 Foot soldiers proposed to be raised to augment the several Regiments therein specified by 20 men in a Company, which [men] are intended to supply the drafts made from Great Britain for the service of Spain and Portugal, [the said Establishment] amounting to about 35,000l. for one year, including levy money and clothing, which 'tis intended should be defrayed out of the 1,500,000l. voted for [the British Forces in] Spain and Portugal [anno 1711], my Lords [resolve that they] have no objection to the proposal provided it be communicated to the House of Commons and their consent [be] had thereto so as to justify their [my Lords'] applying what shall be necessary for the raising, clothing, and maintaining the said 2,000 men out of the said 1,500,000l.
	Mr. Hawes [is] called in. [On reading his memorial for money for the Navy] my Lords direct him to borrow 30,000l. from the Bank on a deposit of tallies and orders in the Navy Treasurer's hands: which sum is to be repaid the Bank with 6 per cent. interest out of the first money coming in on the Lottery Act. The said 30,000l. is to be applied to such uses of the Navy as my Lords shall appoint.
	The Commissioners for Sick and Wounded [are] called in. They deliver a representation of what is wanted for the most pressing services of their Office amounting to 53,502l. 1s. 1¼d.; and also a paper containing a distribution proposed by them of the 20,000l. ordered in part thereof on the 27th ult.: [the said distribution being as follows]: to wit.
		£	s.	d.
	to answer bills of exchange accepted before Jan. 1 last	8,472	4	6
	for answering the several charges of the [Sick and Wounded] Office	4,763	14	9
	towards subsisting prisoners [French prisoners in England] where the occasions are most pressing	6,764	0	9
		£20,000	0	0
	Lord Poulett acquaints the [abovesaid] Commissioners that he hopes the Treasury will be able in a few days to provide for all those services which they have represented to be most in need: that in the meantime as to the application of the 20,000l. his Lordship thinks more might be allowed thereout towards the debt for subsisting prisoners and less for the charge of their Office than they have proposed, the first being in my Lords' opinion most pressing. Upon which the Commissioners offer that 2,000l. be taken out of the 4,763l. 14s. 9d. for the charges of their Office and added to the 6,764l. 0s. 9d. for subsistence of prisoners.
	To this my Lords agree and do direct letters to be written [to the Exchequer for the said issue] accordingly.
	Mr. Brydges and Mr. Granville [are] called in. Mr. Brydges presents a memorial with an account annexed of money paid and to be paid by John Chetwynd, Esq., for the extraordinary charge of the war in Piedmont in the 1710 campaign.
	Also Mr. Granville delivers Instructions signed by the Queen for the said Mr. Chetwynd in relation to the money that may hereafter be appointed for like extraordinary charges of the war in those parts: which [paper of Instructions] my Lords order to be forthwith entered [in the Treasury Books, see infra, pp. 272–4, under date May 9] and sent to Mr. Chetwynd.
	Upon reading a memorial from Mr. Brydges for 158l. 12s. 0d. for two months' subsistence of ten Officers of Col. [R.] Frank's Regiment [who are] ordered to their posts in Portugal and who ('tis alleged) were omitted by mistake in the list delivered to my Lords by Major General Peirce, my Lords direct the said sum to be issued to Mr. Brydges out of any money in the Exchequer of the funds for this year, and to be reckoned as part of the 1,500,000l. voted for the service of [the British Troops in] Spain and Portugal: Mr. Brydges to give notice to his deputy at Lisbon to take due care to charge the said Officers with the money they receive here as aforesaid.
	[My Lords order a letter] to Mr. Granville [Secretary at War] to signify [to him from my Lords] the Queen's pleasure upon the several particulars contained in General Stanhope's letter to Mr. Brydges dated 7 Feb. last; which [pleasure] her Majesty was pleased to declare upon [my Lord Poulett's] laying before her Majesty Mr. Granville's report thereon: [to wit as follows].
	(1) that her Majesty agrees to appoint a Paymaster for the prisoners with such powers and instructions as his [General Stanhope] has desired: and also a Commissary or Muster Master for them.
	(2) that her Majesty will continue his [Stanhope's] pay as General and also the pay of the General Officers [viz.] Carpenter, Wills, Pepper and Gore (who were taken with him): according to their ranks.
	(3) as to the subsistence of the Foreigners [likewise prisoners] her Majesty is pleased to declare that she will allow it to such foreigners as were actually in her Majesty's pay at the time of their being made prisoners, but not to any other foreigners.
	[My Lords order] Mr. Granville to give the notifications hereof to the proper officers to the end all persons concerned may govern themselves accordingly. Treasury Minute Book XVIII, pp. 197–8.
April 4, forenoon.	Present: Earl Poulett, Mr. Pagett, Sir Thomas Mansell, Mr. Benson.
	[My Lords] ordered that Mr. Merryll [on behalf of Mr. Howe, Paymaster of Guards and Garrisons] do attend the Bank and desire them to advance a sum of 30,000l. upon a deposit of orders and tallies remaining in the hands of the Paymaster General of Guards and Garrisons and to be repaid with 6 per cent. per an. interest out of the first money coming in on the Lottery: which sum of 30,000l. (together with 24,840l. 11s. 8d. which is to be raised on Land Tax tallies remaining in Mr. How's hands) my Lords direct to be applied to the uses following: viz.
		£	s.	d.
	to repay so much borrowed by Mr. Howe on credit of money arising by the first payment to the Lottery	5,700	19	8
	to complete two months' subsistence for the several Troops in Great Britain from Dec. 23 last to Feb. 23 last	29,068	8	2
	on account of the poundage [deduction] and day's pay [deduction] and to be for 63 days' subsistence to the outpensioners [of Chelsea Hospital, to wit] to Feb. 23 last	5,440	2	4
	for two months' subsistence for several Regiments, part of the 5,000 men for sea service	11,656	11	6
	on account for Invalids, being for pay to the 12 Companies of Invalids from Dec. 23 last	2,700	0	0
	on account of extraordinaries of the war, being for 61 days' pay for 30 Ensigns ordered upon service abroad [to wit] from April 1 inst. to May 31 next	274	10	0
		£54,840	11	8
	and whereas the said Land Tax tallies bear date about the 16th of January last my Lords direct that the [said Howe] Paymaster [General of Guards and Garrisons] in assigning thereof do take care to compute the interest incurred thereupon as so much principal and do lay before my Lords an exact account of the said interest computed from the date of the orders to this day, to the end a proper direction may be given to the Auditors of Imprests to surcharge him therewith in his accompts.
	Mr. Edwards [is] called in. The petition of himself and other [regarding the overpayments in the subscription to the Lottery] is read. My Lords [reply that they] will advise with the Attorney and Solicitor General and [my Lords do] desire him [Edwards] to attend again on Monday. He thinks [that] in the meantime the petitioners will apply to the House.
	My Lords [reply that they] will not hinder them, but when my Lords have advised in the point of law [involved or raised] in the petition they can be better able to give the petitioners what assistance will be in their power. My Lords say they shall certainly have an answer on Monday.
	He [Edwards promises my Lords that he] will acquaint the rest of the petitioners, but his opinion is they will not stay [any longer for a decision. Treasury Minute Book XVIII, pp. 199–200.
April 5, forenoon.	Present: Earl Poulett, Mr. Pagett, Sir Thomas Mansell, Mr. Benson.
	Mr. Merryll [is] called in [in behalf of Mr. Howe, the Paymaster General of Guards and Garrisons]. He acquaints my Lords that the Bank have agreed to lend the 30,000l. which he attended them about yesterday; and that one article in his memorial of yesterday which was not then directed [by my Lords] seems very necessary, being about 900l. [apparently corrected to 560l.] due to Mr. Carbonel for discount of Exchequer Bills.
	My Lords order the same to be satisfied out of the Land Tax tallies of this year in Mr. Howe's hands.
	Mr. Hawes [is] called in [for the Navy Treasurer]. He says the Bank have agreed to advance 30,000l. on a deposit of tallies; and he lays before my Lords a memorial for the application of said sum: upon which my Lords give directions as follows: viz.
		£	s.	d.
	for [Navy] Wages to pay off the Milford five years' [sic ? quarters'] pay to the end of June 1708	6,400	0	0
	for bills of exchange due on the Navy	9,000	0	0
	for the Victualling [Office] bills of exchange already due	10,346	15	9
	for paying the coopers to Christmas 1710	4,253	4	3
		£30,000	0	0
	My Lords direct the petitions of Mr. Edwards and others to be referred to the Attorney General and Solicitor General and that they be desired to return their report by next Saturday morning.
	Mr. Sloper is called in [in behalf of Mr. Brydges, Paymaster General of the Forces Abroad]. He presents an account of 5,612l. 10s. 3d. due to the Bank for interest of loans on deposits and 9,283l. 14s. 10d. to Mr. Carbonel for discount of Exchequer Bills. My Lords direct that warrants be prepared for such part of the said sums for which warrants are not already signed; and that Mr. Brydges do forthwith borrow of the Bank upon a deposit of tallies so much as will clear the above debts, [the money thus to be borrowed being] to be repaid [to the Bank] with interest at 6 per cent. per an. out of the first money coming in on the Lottery.
	Mr. Crawford, Deputy Commissary, [is] called in. He shews a letter from Mr. Bucknall, Commissary of the Musters in Portugal, with abstracts of the Musters taken there on the 23rd Dec. 1710 for two months to 24 Feb. last inclusive, containing only the real effectives of Horse and Foot in her Majesty's pay in Portugal.
	My Lords direct Mr. Crawford to give copies of the said abstracts to Mr. Brydges and that from time to time hereafter upon his [Crawford] receiving any abstracts of the musters in Spain or Portugal he do immediately transmit exact copies of the said abstracts to the [said] Paymaster [of the Forces Abroad] to the end he [Brydges] may be guided thereby in making his memorials or demands for remittances for those services. And my Lords order notice of this direction to be sent to Mr. Brydges.
	Mr. Hodges [is] called in. My Lords acquaint him that they have had under consideration the payment of the bills due to Sir William Hodges and that the best way they can find is to pay one third part of what are already due out of the second [instalment] payment of the Lottery money, one third more out of the third [like] payment and the remainder thereof (together with what other bills may be due to him) out of the next Aids to be granted [by Parliament] for the service of this year.
	My Lords desire Sir William will continue to accept such bills as shall be drawn [on him] for subsisting the prisoners in Spain not exceeding 9,400l. a month. Ibid., pp. 201–2.
April 6, forenoon.	Present: Earl Poulett, Mr. Paget, Mr. Benson.
	[Write to] the Lord Chief Baron of Scotland and Mr. Baron Scrope to be here at six o'clock this afternoon about money for the [expenses of the Scotch Judges going on the forthcoming] Circuit Courts.
	Mr. Sloper [for Mr. Brydges, Paymaster of the Forces, is] called in. He presents a memorial for several particulars amounting to 7,025l. 9s. 0d. My Lords direct the same to be satisfied as follows. viz. 3,500l. in Malt tallies remaining in the hands of Mr. Brydges next after those he has already had directions to apply to other uses: and the remaining 3,525l. 9s. 0d. out of money which he is desired to borrow of the Bank on a deposit of tallies, [such borrowed money] to be repaid with 6 per cent. per an. interest out of the first money coming in on the Lottery.
	Mr. Merryll [on behalf of Mr. Howe. Paymaster of Guards and Garrisons is] called in. He says he has by my Lords' commands endeavoured to persuade the persons who have the moneys due [to them on or] by bills drawn on Mr. Howe for Col. Nicholson's Expedition to accept of the Land Tax tallies in his hands [as repayment], but they refuse doing thereof, alleging that they have only 10s. per c[ent. per 100l.] allowed for their trouble by their correspondents and that if the bills are not paid in money they must return them [protested].
	My Lords thereupon do direct Mr. Merryll to see what he can get the said tallies discounted for and give my Lords an account thereof so that he may receive their further orders [herein].
	Mr Hawes [in behalf of the Navy Treasurer is] called in. As to the enquiry which my Lords directed him to make yesterday at what discount tallies [ranking] after 316,000l. on this year's Malt Duty may be disposed of, he says at about 4 per cent.
	As to the Candle Duty tallies in the Navy Treasurer's hands for 27,000l. which [rank or] come in course of payment after [a prior] 81,000l. [thereon] he says they may be disposed of at 1½ or ⅓ [1⅓] per cent.
	My Lords direct him to discount them in the best manner he can and then apply to my Lords for [directions as to] the application thereof.
	Mr. Whitfeild [Paymaster of Marines is] called in. His memorial is read in relation to clearings for some Marine Officers who are going on the present Expedition. My Lords direct him to attend again this afternoon.
	My Lords direct the memorial of the Marquis de Montandre (for 2,776l. alleged to be owing for 609 men levied for his Regiment) to be transmitted to Mr. Granville to consider and report what was done in the case of Lord Ilay and [Col.] Breton and whether there is any difference therein from that of the Marquis: together with his opinion what is fit for their Lordships to direct in relation to the said demand.
	Upon reading a memorial from the Board of Ordnance representing that they cannot discount the Malt tallies ordered for their Office [and ranking] payable after 116,000l. [other prior tallies thereon] at less than 4½ or 4¾ per cent. my Lords observe that upon enquiries that have been made by my Lords' direction they may be discounted at 4 per cent. [and accordingly they] do authorise the Board [of Ordnance] to allow 4 per cent. but no more. Treasury Minute Book XVIII, pp. 203–4.
Eodem die afternoon	Present: Earl Poulett, Mr. Pagett, Sir Thomas Mansell, Mr. Benson.
	[Write] the Attorney General and Solicitor General to be here to-morrow morning at nine of the clock.
	A [royal] warrant to be prepared for a Paymaster to the Expedition under the conduct of Brigadier General Hill.
	A [royal] warrant [is ordered to be prepared for the Queen's signature] for Lord Ilay's salary as Lord Justice General [of Scotland, to commence] from the date of his commission.
	My Lords direct 8,000l. to be issued to Mr. Brydges out of the money remaining in the Exchequer of this year's funds: which [sum] is intended [by my Lords] to be paid over to the Deputy Paymaster going with the Troops in the Expedition under Mr. Hill.
	[Send to] the Agents [for Taxes] to attend to-morrow morning precisely at nine o'clock.
	[My Lords order a] letter to the Stamp Duty Commissioners to appoint Mr. Thomas Beresford to be distributor of stamped paper at Taunton in the room of the last distributor [there], deceased: upon his giving sufficient security.
	Ordered that the Treasurer of the Navy do assign to the Paymaster of the Marines out of Land Tax tallies anno 1711 the sum of 6,600l. for the uses following: viz.
				£
	for recruit money for the six Marine Regiments at 600l. each pursuant to Mr. Whitfeild's memorial of the 5th inst.			3,600
	upon account of clearings to Xmas 1709			3,000
				£6,600
	Ibid., p. 204.
April 7, forenoon.	Present: ut supra.
	The Agents for Taxes [are] called in. My Lords take notice that there is a great arrear of the Land Tax due from [Sir William Fazakerly] the Receiver thereof for London and Middlesex.
	Mr. Millart proposes that somebody may be directed to inspect the [said] Receiver's books to see whether the arrears are in his hands or remain still uncollected.
	My Lords direct him to take care that it be done and [that] an answer [be] returned to their Lordships some time next week.
	[My Lords order] a letter to be sent by this post to the Excise Commissioners in Scotland to [request them to] advance 1,500l. upon account of the next ensuing circuit [of the Judges in Scotland].
	The Attorney General and Solicitor General come in. My Lords ask them what report they have for their Lordships upon the petition of Mr. Edwards and others in relation to the overpayments to the Lottery. The Attorney General returns the petition [to the hands of my Lords] and says the petitioners must prove their allegation that they paid their money before the Lottery was full: but that my Lords have no power to administer an oath to the petitioners for that purpose.
	[My Lords order a] letter to the Receivers of the Lottery money to attend my Lords on Monday at ten a'clock.
	[Write] Sir Theodore Janssen to be here on Monday morning at nine a'clock in relation to a remittance of 25,000l. to Italy.
	The Board of Ordnance [are] called in. They represent the great difficulties their artificers lie under and that they are talking of applying to the House of Commons. My Lords say they will consider of their request in relation to the tallies intended for the artificers and hope to give them a satisfactory answer as to that particular by next Wednesday morning: at which time the Board of Ordnance is requested to attend again. In the mean time my Lords direct 10,000l. to be issued out of the Lottery money in the Exchequer if any [of the said money] there [be found] applicable to that use: if not then [the issue is to be made out of or] by a loan which the Treasurer of the Ordnance is [by my Lords' present direction] to obtain from the Bank on a deposit of tallies [which loan shall be or is] to be repaid out of the first money coming in on the Lottery, with interest at 6 per cent. per an.
	[Write] Sir William Hodges to attend next Monday morning at ten a'clock about the money due to him on bills of exchange.
	[Send word to] Mr. Brydges to attend next Tuesday morning with his memorials for [money for the British Troops in] Portugal and Catalonia.
	My Lords read his [Brydges'] memorial for 8,000l. for the Expedition and direct the same to be issued according to a minute taken yesterday: and on Monday morning will consider of his memorial relating to Col. Windsor's Regiment.
	Mr. Merryll [on behalf of Mr. Howe, Paymaster General of Guards and Garrisons] presents a memorial for 912l. 1s. 8d. on account of the pay of the Garrisons of Edinburgh, Stirling and Dunbarton, being intended to be imprested to the Earl of Leven for laying in a magazine of provisions for the use of those garrisons and to be repaid by deductions out of the subsistence of the respective Regiments, Troops or Companies that shall receive the same [provisions] pursuant to her Majesty's warrant in that behalf. My Lords direct the said sum to be issued to Mr. Howe out of any money of this year's funds in the Exchequer. Treasury Minute Book XVIII, pp. 205–6.
April 9, forenoon.	Present: Earl Poulet, Mr. Paget, Mr. Benson.
	[My Lords order the] D[uke] of Newcastle to be paid to Xmas last as Lord Privy Seal.
	[Send word] to Mr. Lansdale to be here to-morrow morning.
	My Lords will to-morrow morning consider the letters from Mr. Chetwynd, Envoy at Genoa, which are transmitted to my Lords by Lord Dartmouth.
	Sir William Hodges [is] called in. My Lords upon hearing his allegations concerning what is due to him upon bills of exchange are pleased to direct the letters to be written for making the issues for him according to the Minutes of the 5th inst., supra, p. 41: which [issues] are to be reckoned as part of the 1,500,000l. for the service [of the British Troops in] Spain and Portugal. And Sir William praying in regard of his pressing occasions that my Lords would be a means to induce the Bank to accommodate him with an advance of the money now ordered in part of the bills that have been so long due, he [offering to undertake the] paying the interest for what they [the Bank] shall so advance, my Lords [tell him they] will send Mr. Sloper [as on behalf of Mr. Brydges, Paymaster General of the Forces] to them [the Bank] on Wednesday morning to make it their request for him: and [further that] Mr. Benson [one of my Lords] will speak to Mr. Gould [Deputy Governor of the Bank] about it in the House [of Commons].
	Mr. Edwards and other petitioners concerning the Lottery [over-subscription payments] are called in and also Mr. Madocks and Mr. de Gols, two of the Receivers of the Lottery money. The petition is read and certain interrogatories exhibited by the petitioners is read. The Receivers desire a copy of the said Interrogatories and that they may [be permitted to] answer in writing.
	My Lords think it reasonable to give them a copy and do direct them to bring their answer in writing on Thursday morning by eleven a'clock.
	My Lords having considered of a memorial of Col. Windsor transmitted to them by the Secretary at War, relating to 468 men and arms delivered from his [Windsor's] Regiment to divers other Regiments in Spain in Dec. 1709 for which [arms and levy money] he prays 1,872l. to enable him to recruit (as he is required) by the 1st of May next, my Lords do direct (because the service requires despatch) that the said sum shall be now advanced. But direction is to be given to Mr. Brydges at the same time that he take due care that the same be deducted forthwith out of the pay of the respective Regiments which received the said men and arms.
	My Lords also order that a sum of 2,436l. prayed for by the Marquis de Montandre for levy money of his Regiment be now paid; but that the same be placed to the account of that Regiment before the 5th of February 1707–8, "the day they were discontinued"; the said Regiment having in their own hands the savings by non-effectives before and after the battle of Almanza to the said 5th of February: and that both these [above] sums be satisfied out of the Malt tallies anno 1710 in Mr. B[rydges's] hands.
	Mr. Sloper [is] called in [in behalf of Mr. Brydges, Paymaster of the Forces Abroad]. He acquaints my Lord Poulett that as to the memorial of the Earl of Clarendon referred to Mr. Howe, he has found that in May 1702 the Earl of Ranelagh by direction of the Treasury did issue to Mr. Thrale, then Agent to the Lord Cornbury (now Earl of Clarendon), 2,000l. upon account of subsistence to the four Companies at New York, which sum or the greatest part of it was (as he is informed) to remain in the said Agent's hands to answer bills of exchange drawn from New York for the use of the said four Companies; but how much thereof has been applied to the satisfaction of the said bills or otherwise for the said Companies by the said Mr. Thrale or his executors doth not appear: but (as he is informed) there did remain in the said Mr. Thrale's hands at the time of his death upwards of 1,500l. of the money which he had received for the use of the said Companies and [he Sloper] believes Mr. Champante can give a better account of this matter.
	My Lords order a letter to be written to him [Champante to request him] to be here to-morrow morning. Ibid., pp. 207–8.
April 10, forenoon.	Present: Earl Poulett, Mr. Pagett, Sir Thomas Mansell, Mr. Benson.
	Mr. [John] Lamy [clerk, is ordered] to have 40l. a year on the [Civil] Establishment of Scotland till such time as there shall be room in the List of Charities [Scotland] payable out of the 2,000l. a year allowed for that [said List or] purpose on the said Establishment.
	My Lords resolve not to make any allowances herafter to any Governors of the Plantations for [the expenses of] their transportation to their respective Governments upon any applications or suggestions whatsoever.
	Mr. Sloper and Mr. Champante [are] called in. Copies are read of a report made by Mr. Blathwayte, Mr. St. John and the Comptrollers of the Army Accounts (Sir Joseph Tredenham and Arthur Moore, Esq.), dated 11 Feb. 1706–7, wherein they propose[d] that 1,712l. 11s. 5d. which had been paid to Mr. Thrale, Agent for the four Companies at New York, should be repaid to the Paymaster of the Guards and Garrisons; also of a warrant dated 1707–8 March 10 signed by Lord Godolphin for paying it back to the said Paymaster. Mr. Champante acquaints my Lords that there are several bills due to merchants for money supplied for the subsistence of the said four Companies to 1702 May 8, the time of my Lord Cornbury's arrival at New York, and upon his application the aforesaid warrant was obtained to [order] the executors of Mr. Thrale to pay back the abovesaid 1,712l. 11s. 5d. but the said executors never complied therewith and the merchants' bills still remain unsatisfied. My Lord Clarendon, by his memorial of 26 March 1711 represents that in December 1708 the Lord Lovelace, his successor in that Government, arrived at New York and soon after his Lordship (Lord Clarendon) was arrested for part of the money detained by Thrale's executors: that the said executors are willing to pay what is in their hands to his Lordship if they may be discharged from the late Lord Treasurer's order: and therefore [Champante] prays an order to them accordingly to enable him to pay what is justly due to the said four Companies and for which judgement is obtained against his Lordship (Clarendon) at New York.
	My Lords are of opinion that if the money, for which Lord Cornbury was arrested, became due for the pay of the said Companies by reason of the stoppage in the hands of Thrale's executors that directions should be given for applying the same to discharge the debts for which Lord Cornbury was arrested in New York.
	Sir Theodore Janssen is called in and presents a proposal dated this day for remitting 134,000 Crowns to Turin; which my Lords consider and agree to: being as follows viz.: to give his bills for [on] Turin for 134,000 Crowns of 82 sols each, money of Piedmont, payable at 60 days' date, at the [exchange] rate of 57 pence sterling per Crown; and in [re]payment thereof to take half on the third [instalment] payment of the Lottery and half in present [ready] money.
	Mr. Brydges [is] called in. My Lords direct him to make a memorial for the said 32,000l. to be remitted to John Chetwynd, Envoy at Turin, to enable him to discharge the engagement he lies under for the extraordinaries of the war in Piedmont; and to be issued upon the general order for the sum of 1,000,000l. in his [? Brydges] name and to be expressed to be in part of the extraordinaries of the war in Piedmont.
	My Lords desire Mr. Brydges to borrow 16,000l. from the Bank on a deposit of tallies, being to satisfy a moiety of the abovesaid 32,000l. "according to their Lordships' agreement", to be repaid with 6 per cent. per an. interest out of the first money coming in on the Lottery.
	My Lords order Mr. Brydges to write by this night's post to Mr. Sweet to take care that out of the last remittances he should forthwith pay over the 30,000 Crowns which her Majesty has agreed to allow for putting the Elector Palatine Troops in a condition of service (being what my Lord Marlborough has desired by his letter to Secretary St. John dated 10 April 1711, new style), and my Lords will provide for it in the next remittances to be made for the Troops in the Low Countries.
	[My Lords] ordered that Mr. Brydges do write by this night's post to Mr. Morrice that out of the 150,000l. remaining in his hands he do forthwith apply 73,000l. to satisfy the Troops in Portugal and the subsidies to the King of Portugal to the end of April instant and that he sends up the remainder by the first opportunity to Barcelona for the Troops in Catalonia: " and Mr. Brydges is to signify to Mr. Mead the uses to which the said 77,000l. is to be applied as soon as possibly he can."
	[Send to] Mr. Merryll to attend to-night at nine a'clock and the Auditors to attend at the same time with their report in relation to the Newfoundland bills. Treasury Minute Book XVIII, pp. 209–11.
Eodem die, afternoon.	Present: Earl Poulett, Mr. Pagett, Mr. Benson.
	The Auditors of Imprests are called in. Their report is read concerning the bills drawn on account of the late Expedition under Col. Nicholson and my Lords agree to what is proposed by them in relation to the said bills and direct a warrant to be prepared accordingly.
	Mr. Merryll is called in [on behalf of Mr. Howe, Paymaster of Guards and Garrisons], and is acquainted therewith. My Lords ask him whether he has been able to persuade the merchants to whom the said bills are payable to take [in payment thereof] tallies on last year's Land Tax [which tallies remain] in Mr. Howe's hands which he says are payable after 1,760,000l. [registered on the said 1710 Land Tax]. He answers that they demand 4 per cent. discount for [their acceptance of] them. My Lords think it too much, but if they will take 'em with an allowance of six months' interest due thereon my Lords will consent thereto. If he [Merryll] cannot bring them to that he is to acquaint them [the merchants] that they shall be paid on Friday morning in money without fail: and he is to let my Lords know their resolution as soon as possible so that measures may be taken accordingly. Ibid., p. 211.
April 11, forenoon.	Present: ut supra.
	[My Lords order a] letter [of direction] for [the issue of] what is due to Mr. Portman on their Lordships' [money] warrant for watering the [Ring in Hyde] Park.
	[My Lords likewise direct] 500l. to the Cofferer of the Household to pay bills of exchange drawn from Holland for wines bought for the service of her Majesty's Household.
	Mr. Lansdale [is] called in. My Lords direct that the Board of Ordnance do assign to their artificers so much as is due to them for six months' course to the 31 Dec. 1708 [to be issued] out of tallies and orders in the hands of the Treasurer of the Ordnance in manner following that is to say 41,500l. [of tallies and orders] on the General Mortgage anno 1709; 15,332l. 14s. 7½d. in Candle Duty tallies anno 1710 and the rest out of Malt Duty tallies anno 1710: and that the interest upon the orders from Sept. 29 last be assigned [along with the assignment of the principal moneys represented by the said tallies and orders]; it being agreed [with the said artificers] that if they were not paid the said six months' [course] in money or Exchequer Bills within four months from Sept. 15 last they should be allowed interest from Michaelmas 1710. Ibid., p. 212. [Between pp. 212 and 213 a leaf has been torn out of the Minute Book. But as there is no break in the pagination or in the Minutes it must have disappeared before the volume was written in.]
April 12, forenoon.	Present: Earl Poulett, Mr. Paget, Sir Thomas Mansell, Mr. Benson.
	Upon reading the letter from Mr. St. John [Secretary of State] about four German Battalions [my Lords] ordered that Mr. Brydges do make a demand for them. The papers are delivered to Mr. Sloper who is present [as deputy for Mr. Brydges].
	My Lords order the 27,000l. [tallies and orders] mentioned in their minute of the 6th inst. in the Navy Treasurer's hands on the Candle Act (as they are and shall be discounted) to be applied by 3,000l. a week towards satisfying what is due for wages to ships lost and taken by the enemy and towards paying wages to other ships to 24 June 1708.
	Mr. Wise [is] called in. [My Lords order that] he is to deliver the spotted deer to the Morocco Ambassador if he [the Ambassador] is willing to receive them.
	Mr. Milner [is] called in. He [informs my Lords after their discoursing with him that he] will bring a proposal to-morrow morning for remitting 100,000l. to Portugal.
	Mr. Brydges presents a memorial that provision may be made for four German Regiments. He takes it [away] again [in order] to make a demand [and estimate] for them.
	He presents another memorial concerning Gibraltar. My Lords resolve that the money for soft bread and for coals and hospital be brought to account [as part] of the 1,500,000l. [voted for the British Forces in Spain and Portugal]. Mr. Brydges is to write to Mr. Morrice that he is to take my Lord Portmore's directions for supplying them, but to send over monthly demands [for money] for the future.
	He [Brydges] presents a memorial for 237l. 10s. 0d. for the Officers of [the Regiments of] Ker and Richards. [My Lords direct that] it is to be paid out of money in the Exchequer.
	[He presents] another [memorial] for 300l. for enabling the Officers of Sir Robert Rich's Regiment to carry 100 recruits to his Regiment at Gibraltar. My Lords order the said 300l. to be advanced on account of subsistence from Xmas last and that it be placed to account of the [said] 1,500,000l.: and to be paid out of money in the Exchequer.
	Mr. Brydges will attend Mr. Att[orney General] for his opinion about the manner of his [Brydges'] accepting foreign bills of exchange.
	Mr. Madocks et al., Receivers of the 1,500,000l. Lottery, and Mr. Edwards with other of the petitioners are called in. The answer of the [said] Receivers to the [said petitioners'] Interrogatories is read. The petitioners think the answer is not direct. They desire a copy; which is ordered [by my Lords to be furnished to them]. The Receivers and the petitioners are to attend again on Saturday at ten a'clock. Treasury Minute Book XVIII, p. 213.
April 13, forenoon.	Present: Earl Poulett, Mr. Paget, Sir Thomas Mansell, Mr. Benson.
	My Lords approve Mr. Merryll's estimate of 722l. 19s. 2d. for provisions for the garrisons in Scotland.
	A memorial of Mr. Howe, [Paymaster of Guards and Garrisons, is read praying] to be allowed 72l. for the charges in several offices on passing his account of the Guards and Garrisons anno 1708 and [his account] for the Royal Hospital at Chelsea for the same year. My Lords direct the same to be allowed in his account for 1709 by a warrant in the usual form.
	Mr. Brydges [is] called in. His papers are read and minutes [of my Lords' decisions thereon are endorsed] on them.
	Mr. Milner is called in and offers a proposal to remit 200,000 pieces of Eight to Barcelona. He will come again on Tuesday morning.
	[Write] to Jezrael Jones to be here to-morrow morning at ten a'clock.
	Sir Henry Furnese [is] called in. Lord Poulett tells him my Lords have now received advice that the 100,000l. he agreed for on the 20th Novr. last to furnish at Lisbon is paid; and [my Lords do] therefore direct that so much more of the Malt tallies and Land Tax tallies remaining in Mr. Brydges' hands for his [Furnese's] satisfaction shall be forthwith assigned to him [Furnese] as will complete the said 100,000l. But Mr. Brydges in assigning the said orders is to take care that the interest incurred thereupon from the date thereof to this day be reckoned to the said Sir Henry as so much principal towards the said 100,000l. and that he [Brydges] do lay before my Lords as soon as possible an exact account of all the orders that he shall have assigned to the said Sir Henry by virtue of this direction and the former [direction] of the 2nd inst., and of the interest incurred thereupon respectively, to the end that directions may be given to the Auditors of Imprests to surcharge Mr. Brydges therewith in his accounts.
	[Write the] Agents for Taxes and Sir William Fazakerly to attend to-morrow at ten a'clock.
	[Write] Sir John Lambert to be here at ten a'clock. Ibid., p. 214.
April 14, forenoon.	Present: Earl Poulett, Mr. Paget, Mr. Benson.
	[My Lords order] Robert Farr to be Surveyor of [Customs at] Topsham.
	[My Lords direct the issue to the Treasurer of the Navy of] 1,000l. on the head of Wages [of seamen] on account of contingencies for the Squadron under Sir Hovenden Walker: [to be issued] out of the 27,000l. which is raising [being raised] on the Candle Duty tallies.
	Mr. Brydges [is] called in and 2,792l. [is] ordered on a memorial [of his now read for supply] for Brigadier Hill et al. His [Brydges'] demand for 284,515l. 12s. 7½d. and other sums for Spain is to be considered on Monday: as also the Instructions for [his Deputies to guide them in] making the payments in Spain. The Secretary at War, the Auditors of Imprests, the [said Brydges], Paymaster [of the Forces Abroad], and the Commissary of Provisions are to be here then.
	[My Lords order that] 100l. is to be paid to Lieut. Col. St. Johns on account of his personal pay.
	[The Principal] Officers of the Ordnance are called in. Their letter or memorial of yesterday's date is read with a copy of one to them from the artificers of the Ordnance. My Lords observe that the said artificers (amongst other things) insist that by a minute of 15 Sept. last my Lords agreed to redeem tallies then ordered to be deposited for security of the payment of six months' course to them within four months from that day and that the tallies now offered them by the Board of Ordnance are 15 per cent. worse than money and that [such] their offer doth (as they allege) no ways come up to my Lords' said agreement.
	The minute of the 15th Sept. is read with some letters from the Ordnance Board and also a petition of the said artificers [which was] presented to my Lords the beginning of this month. And upon a full consideration of the whole my Lords think it is very plain that the said minute can import no more than what it was intended for by my Lords, to wit, a security for six months' course to be paid to the artificers and that if the same was not paid in money or Exchequer Bills within four months from that day that then the interest should be assigned to them on the tallies for the said six months' course, to commence from Michaelmas last: and that not only my Lords and the Board of Ordnance have all along taken this to be the meaning of the agreement but even the said artificers too, as plainly appears by their petition above mentioned.
	My Lords have therefore directed that so many of the tallies and orders remaining in the hands of the Ordnance Treasurer as will satisfy six months' course to the said artificers shall be forthwith assigned to them with interest to commence from Sept. 29 last.
	My Lords also direct the Officers of the Ordnance to lay before them [my Lords] an account of how much will pay the [Ordnance] course six months further.
	Mr. Jezreel Jones is called in. He says the Morocco Ambassador will take the deer from Mr. Wise, and he [Jones] will acquaint Mr. Wise of it.
	My Lords order that the several Paymasters of the Forces and Marines do from time to time upon the representations of the Agents for Taxes repay into the Exchequer (out of the moneys they have received or shall receive from [sic for for] the Forces) the sums which have been or shall be advanced by any Receivers of the Land Taxes for recruits according to the several Acts of Parliament in that behalf and do charge the same to the accounts of the respective Regiments as those Acts do direct: and the Agents [for Taxes] are forthwith to apply to the said Paymasters for the several sums mentioned in the said Agents' memorial of this day amounting to 10,904l. 9s. 6d. [the want of] which [money] hinders the passing of several Receivers' accounts and occasions the detaining more moneys in their hands.
	The Receivers of the Lottery money and the petitioners in relation to the money they [the said petitioners, being contributors to the said Lottery] paid to the said Lottery are called in. The petitioners exhibit exceptions to the Receivers' answer to their former Interrogatories, [and hand in the same together] with some further Interrogatories which are read. The Receivers desire copies thereof, which are ordered to be given to them. They [undertake to my Lords that they] will attend with their answer in writing next Tuesday morning.
	The Auditors of Imprests and the Secretary at War [are to be desired] to attend next Monday morning at ten of the clock in relation to the draft of the Instructions for the [Deputy] Paymaster and the Commissary [General] of the Forces in Spain.
	A memorial is read in behalf of the Band of Pensioners. My Lords [reply that they] will pay them with [or at the same time as] the Household. Treasury Minute Book XVIII, pp. 215–6.